OT: Austrian GP SPOILER!!!!

Did anyone see Zonta give the crane operation the finger??? Ha!!! The crane operator did not rearend schumacher and the crane operator also did not blow up his piece of shit F1 car. Zonta certainly has no right giving anyone the finger after his "masterful" drive today. IMHO of course :-) And what can you say about the prost team? The one car should not have attempted the pass, and the other car should not have chopped his teammate like that. What else do you expect from Alesi??? Both of the prost drivers suck again... IMHO :-) -- [email hidden]

It's one thing to boot Schumacher off the track, it's another to get let down by you engine. Then if someone, to add insult to injury, nearly runs you over with a converted JCB (them marshalls had a history too, in second free practise they lifted a car while the driver was still getting out!!) it's easy to lose once temper. But why flip him off? -I don't get it. Jan. =--- Greg Cisko wrote... > Did anyone see Zonta give the crane operation the finger??? > <snip>

So much for spellchecking one's posts!! <sigh> Jan. =--- Jan Verschueren wrote... > It's one thing to boot Schumacher off the track, it's > another to get let down by you engine. ^^^^________!!!! > Then if someone, to add insult to injury, nearly runs > you over with a converted JCB (them marshalls had a > history too, in second free practise they lifted a car > while the driver was still getting out!!) it's easy to > lose once temper. But why flip him off? -I don't get it. ^^^^^______!!!!! <snip>

So much for spellchecking one's posts!! <sigh> Jan. =--- ^^^^________!!!! ^^^^^______!!!!! <snip>

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> It's one thing to boot Schumacher off the track, it's another to get let > down by you engine. > > Then if someone, to add insult to injury, nearly runs you over with a > converted JCB (them marshalls had a history too, in second free practise > they lifted a car while the driver was still getting out!!) it's easy to > lose once temper. But why flip him off? -I don't get it.

I guess simply being a F1 driver, (even a back marker) gives someone that right to flip anyone off for anything :-) -- [email hidden]

"Joeri Cox" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:WxKc5.97$[email hidden]... > Alesi's passing of Wurz was terrific, even if he didn't pass because he > braked too late, but the way Jean throws his car around and controls it,is > still a terrific joy to watch. > I have to agree with you that he's been very unlucky, he deserves better. Sadly he had better (ferrarri and Benetton). Now he is in the twilight of his career. -- [email hidden] > --- > Joeri J. Cox > J_Cox on N3 - ICQ# 60159253 > Co-founder of 502 Racing > > European Racing League - http://drive.to/erl > > "Erwan" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht > news:sgKc5.17043$[email hidden]... > > yep, i'm french and really disapointed by this team. > > But i don't agree with you on Alesi point. He doesn't sucks..... > > He is one of the top 5 best drivers in the F1 but he is so unlucky > > and he has a quite bad car. > > Peugeot is very good in Rally (BTW, just win today in NZ) but is not > > good in F1. > > I'm really waiting for the return of Renault in 2002. They will be in the > top 3 > > in their first season. > > > > Greg Cisko <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message : > > xboc5.30259$[email hidden]... > > > Did anyone see Zonta give the crane operation the finger??? > > > Ha!!! The crane operator did not rearend schumacher and > > > the crane operator also did not blow up his piece of shit F1 > > > car. Zonta certainly has no right giving anyone the finger after > > > his "masterful" drive today. IMHO of course :-) > > > > > > And what can you say about the prost team? The one car > > > should not have attempted the pass, and the other car > > > should not have chopped his teammate like that. What else > > > do you expect from Alesi??? Both of the prost drivers suck > > > again... IMHO :-) > > > > > > -- > > > > > > [email hidden] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

"Erwan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:sgKc5.17043$[email hidden]... > yep, i'm french and really disapointed by this team. > But i don't agree with you on Alesi point. He doesn't sucks..... I user to like Alesi when he first came on the scene. Everyone talked big about him. But he was a total bust as far as I am concerned. Kind of like Ricardo Patrasse (sp?) Eventually I realized that he wasn't that hot and other teams apparently feel the same. Now he is a back marker on a back marker team. The main reason I don't like him is that he is overly agressive (kind of like Paul Tracy) and would rather crash into you than give up a corner. Drivers like that are total ahole's IMHO. Just let the corner go and over take the car in the next lap if you can :-) -- [email hidden] > He is one of the top 5 best drivers in the F1 but he is so unlucky > and he has a quite bad car. > Peugeot is very good in Rally (BTW, just win today in NZ) but is not > good in F1. > I'm really waiting for the return of Renault in 2002. They will be in the top 3 > in their first season. > > Greg Cisko <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message : > xboc5.30259$[email hidden]... > > Did anyone see Zonta give the crane operation the finger??? > > Ha!!! The crane operator did not rearend schumacher and > > the crane operator also did not blow up his piece of shit F1 > > car. Zonta certainly has no right giving anyone the finger after > > his "masterful" drive today. IMHO of course :-) > > > > And what can you say about the prost team? The one car > > should not have attempted the pass, and the other car > > should not have chopped his teammate like that. What else > > do you expect from Alesi??? Both of the prost drivers suck > > again... IMHO :-) > > > > -- > > > > [email hidden] > > > > > > > > > >

yep, i'm french and really disapointed by this team. But i don't agree with you on Alesi point. He doesn't sucks..... He is one of the top 5 best drivers in the F1 but he is so unlucky and he has a quite bad car. Peugeot is very good in Rally (BTW, just win today in NZ) but is not good in F1. I'm really waiting for the return of Renault in 2002. They will be in the top 3 in their first season. Greg Cisko <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message : xboc5.30259$[email hidden]...

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> Did anyone see Zonta give the crane operation the finger??? > Ha!!! The crane operator did not rearend schumacher and > the crane operator also did not blow up his piece of shit F1 > car. Zonta certainly has no right giving anyone the finger after > his "masterful" drive today. IMHO of course :-) > > And what can you say about the prost team? The one car > should not have attempted the pass, and the other car > should not have chopped his teammate like that. What else > do you expect from Alesi??? Both of the prost drivers suck > again... IMHO :-) > > -- > > [email hidden] > > > >

Alesi's passing of Wurz was terrific, even if he didn't pass because he braked too late, but the way Jean throws his car around and controls it, is still a terrific joy to watch. I have to agree with you that he's been very unlucky, he deserves better. --- Joeri J. Cox J_Cox on N3 - ICQ# 60159253 Co-founder of 502 Racing European Racing League - http://drive.to/erl "Erwan" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht news:sgKc5.17043$[email hidden]...

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> yep, i'm french and really disapointed by this team. > But i don't agree with you on Alesi point. He doesn't sucks..... > He is one of the top 5 best drivers in the F1 but he is so unlucky > and he has a quite bad car. > Peugeot is very good in Rally (BTW, just win today in NZ) but is not > good in F1. > I'm really waiting for the return of Renault in 2002. They will be in the

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> in their first season. > > Greg Cisko <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message : > xboc5.30259$[email hidden]... > > Did anyone see Zonta give the crane operation the finger??? > > Ha!!! The crane operator did not rearend schumacher and > > the crane operator also did not blow up his piece of shit F1 > > car. Zonta certainly has no right giving anyone the finger after > > his "masterful" drive today. IMHO of course :-) > > > > And what can you say about the prost team? The one car > > should not have attempted the pass, and the other car > > should not have chopped his teammate like that. What else > > do you expect from Alesi??? Both of the prost drivers suck > > again... IMHO :-) > > > > -- > > > > [email hidden] > > > > > > > > > >

Bendito wrote: > Greg Cisko wrote in message ... > > >Sadly he had better (ferrarri and Benetton). Now he is in the twilight > >of his career. > > How old is Alesi now? How old is too old in F1 these days? Alesi is 36, as is Johnny Herbert. Being "too old for F1" definitely depends on the driver, their fitness, and most importantly their motivation. Times have certainly changed, but Fangio won his last world championship at 46. During the 1960s, Ken Miles was one of the kings of the sports car world while in his mid-40s. Damon Hill, who got a relatively late start in the sport retired at the end of last year at the age of 39, but he clearly looked like he was more than done. In recent years, the oldest champions have been Nigel Mansell in 1992 at 39 and Alain Prost in 1993 at 38. Dave Ewing -- ***************************************************** David A. Ewing Xilinx Boulder [email hidden] *****************************************************

It seemd to me that the crane operator knocked his thingie against Zontas helmet. Something flew away from Alesis car, so IMO he couldn't brake more efficiently. He is too experienced to make such a mistake. After the last race incident Alain should be a bit frustrated. Only my point of view Jens On Sun, 16 Jul 2000 14:40:29 -0500, "Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Did anyone see Zonta give the crane operation the finger??? >Ha!!! The crane operator did not rearend schumacher and<snip>> >And what can you say about the prost team? The one car >should not have attempted the pass, and the other car<snip> --------------------------------------------- [email hidden] Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address JensSchumi homepage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ Racing simulation, esp. GPL Logitech Wingman FF optimization Classic cars, esp. Morris Minor Radio controlled airplanes

Greg Cisko wrote in message ... >Sadly he had better (ferrarri and Benetton). Now he is in the twilight >of his career. How old is Alesi now? How old is too old in F1 these days? Bendito;

EldredP wrote: > > What lap did Zonta go out on? I watched the replay Monday from about lap 21, > and I didn't see the incident. I heard Sam and Dave(id) <g> talking about it > Sunday when I had the race on, but didn't actually SEE Zonta's reaction... :) Zonta retired on lap 59. Did you watch the Speedvision or Fox Sports telecast? My tape of the Speedvision telecast was just static because of a power outage. The Fox telecast, at least the one aired on Sunday, did show the incident. Sometimes they edit it down for replays during the week, I believe. Dave Ewing -- ***************************************************** David A. Ewing Xilinx Boulder [email hidden] *****************************************************

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>It seemd to me that the crane operator knocked his thingie against Zontas >helmet. >Something flew away from Alesis car, so IMO he couldn't brake more >efficiently. >He is too experienced to make such a mistake. After the last race incident >Alain >should be a bit frustrated. > >Only my point of view > >Jens

What lap did Zonta go out on? I watched the replay Monday from about lap 21, and I didn't see the incident. I heard Sam and Dave(id) <g> talking about it Sunday when I had the race on, but didn't actually SEE Zonta's reaction... :) Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +70.45 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

That's it!!! I start a F1-career. I just turned 38, best age obviously ;-) Jens On Tue, 18 Jul 2000 10:43:33 -0600, David Ewing <[email hidden]> wrote: > >Alesi is 36, as is Johnny Herbert. Being "too old for F1" definitely<snip> >years, the oldest champions have been Nigel Mansell in 1992 at 39 and >Alain Prost in 1993 at 38. > >Dave Ewing --------------------------------------------- [email hidden] Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address JensSchumi homepage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ Racing simulation, esp. GPL Logitech Wingman FF optimization Classic cars, esp. Morris Minor Radio controlled airplanes

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>EldredP wrote: > >> >> What lap did Zonta go out on? I watched the replay Monday from about lap >21, >> and I didn't see the incident. I heard Sam and Dave(id) <g> talking about >it >> Sunday when I had the race on, but didn't actually SEE Zonta's reaction... >:) > >Zonta retired on lap 59. Did you watch the Speedvision or Fox Sports >telecast? >My tape of the Speedvision telecast was just static because of a power >outage. >The Fox telecast, at least the one aired on Sunday, did show the incident. >Sometimes they edit it down for replays during the week, I believe. > >Dave Ewing

Speedvision, both days. It must have been on the cutting room floor Monday...<g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +70.45 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.