Re: Mosport is hard.

On Mon 17 Jul 2000 07:31:47am, Student, T.U.E. wrote: >Brake and shift back to 4th gear before the top of the hill and you >won't loose control. Same thing works for other similar crests - eg the Flugplatz. -- David. (GPLRank handicap: +12.42) "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

Brake and shift back to 4th gear before the top of the hill and you won't loose control. Buzz Tony Jester <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I never liked Mosport in GPL, I find it very difficult plus the graphics > aren't too great, so I almost never practice there. But I realize I can > save a couple seconds from my handicap, so I've been training there for > the last couple hours. I've finally managed to get the hang of the two > major left hand turns, but I'm still having major problems with the jump > at the end. What usually happens is after landing, braking, and turning, > the car just slides off the left side of the track. Are there any > tricks to making it easier? Any setup tips for the Ferrari? Thanks. > > -Tony-

I never liked Mosport in GPL, I find it very difficult plus the graphics aren't too great, so I almost never practice there. But I realize I can save a couple seconds from my handicap, so I've been training there for the last couple hours. I've finally managed to get the hang of the two major left hand turns, but I'm still having major problems with the jump at the end. What usually happens is after landing, braking, and turning, the car just slides off the left side of the track. Are there any tricks to making it easier? Any setup tips for the Ferrari? Thanks. -Tony-

I agree -- a quick jab on the brakes before the top forces the car to jump far less--also try and point the front wheels at the apex when you land--slow into the corner and accelerate when youve got it under control Dan Leach Student, T.U.E. <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8ku950$gr7$[email hidden]...

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> Brake and shift back to 4th gear before the top of the hill and you won't > loose control. > > Buzz > > > Tony Jester <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I never liked Mosport in GPL, I find it very difficult plus the graphics > > aren't too great, so I almost never practice there. But I realize I can > > save a couple seconds from my handicap, so I've been training there for > > the last couple hours. I've finally managed to get the hang of the two > > major left hand turns, but I'm still having major problems with the jump > > at the end. What usually happens is after landing, braking, and turning, > > the car just slides off the left side of the track. Are there any > > tricks to making it easier? Any setup tips for the Ferrari? Thanks. > > > > -Tony- > >

I take a stab at the brakes and downshift to 4th before the crest of the hill, this sets me up just right for the next turn. Tony Jester <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I never liked Mosport in GPL, I find it very difficult plus the graphics > aren't too great, so I almost never practice there. But I realize I can > save a couple seconds from my handicap, so I've been training there for > the last couple hours. I've finally managed to get the hang of the two > major left hand turns, but I'm still having major problems with the jump > at the end. What usually happens is after landing, braking, and turning, > the car just slides off the left side of the track. Are there any > tricks to making it easier? Any setup tips for the Ferrari? Thanks. > > -Tony-

On 17 Jul 2000 11:34:20 GMT, [email hidden] (David Buttery) wrote: >>Brake and shift back to 4th gear before the top of the hill and you >>won't loose control. >Same thing works for other similar crests - eg the Flugplatz. Well, I find that the Andretti jump can be taken without gas where as Flugplatz can only be driven smooth and fast by slowing down in advance, then accelerating hard as you go over the top.

I just lift before the crest, and DO NOT hit the brakes or turn the wheel, until the car has settled after landing. You'll grow to love Mosport, it's one of the more satisfying tracks in GPL Martyn_D Tony Jester wrote:

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> I never liked Mosport in GPL, I find it very difficult plus the graphics > aren't too great, so I almost never practice there. But I realize I can > save a couple seconds from my handicap, so I've been training there for > the last couple hours. I've finally managed to get the hang of the two > major left hand turns, but I'm still having major problems with the jump > at the end. What usually happens is after landing, braking, and turning, > the car just slides off the left side of the track. Are there any > tricks to making it easier? Any setup tips for the Ferrari? Thanks. > > -Tony-

I loathe it with a passion! I can (almost) drive a clean 170+ corner lap at the 'ring (8.47) but can't do 9 corner mosport to save my life! I've only learnt it for the sake of GPLrank. God that site has a lot to answer for :) Kev +34.56 SKurj wrote:

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> > I just lift before the crest, and DO NOT hit the brakes or turn the wheel, > until the car has settled after landing. You'll grow to love Mosport, it's > one of the more satisfying tracks in GPL > > Martyn_D > > Tony Jester wrote: > > > I never liked Mosport in GPL, I find it very difficult plus the graphics > > aren't too great, so I almost never practice there. But I realize I can > > save a couple seconds from my handicap, so I've been training there for > > the last couple hours. I've finally managed to get the hang of the two > > major left hand turns, but I'm still having major problems with the jump > > at the end. What usually happens is after landing, braking, and turning, > > the car just slides off the left side of the track. Are there any > > tricks to making it easier? Any setup tips for the Ferrari? Thanks. > > > > -Tony-

1 secret to Mosport is ride height!! set it minimum 3.5 inches Kev wrote:

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> I loathe it with a passion! > I can (almost) drive a clean 170+ corner lap at the 'ring (8.47) but > can't do 9 corner mosport to save my life! I've only learnt it for the > sake of GPLrank. > God that site has a lot to answer for :) > > Kev +34.56 > > SKurj wrote: > > > > I just lift before the crest, and DO NOT hit the brakes or turn the wheel, > > until the car has settled after landing. You'll grow to love Mosport, it's > > one of the more satisfying tracks in GPL > > > > Martyn_D > > > > Tony Jester wrote: > > > > > I never liked Mosport in GPL, I find it very difficult plus the graphics > > > aren't too great, so I almost never practice there. But I realize I can > > > save a couple seconds from my handicap, so I've been training there for > > > the last couple hours. I've finally managed to get the hang of the two > > > major left hand turns, but I'm still having major problems with the jump > > > at the end. What usually happens is after landing, braking, and turning, > > > the car just slides off the left side of the track. Are there any > > > tricks to making it easier? Any setup tips for the Ferrari? Thanks. > > > > > > -Tony-

In article <[email hidden]>, Tony Jester <[email hidden]> writes

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>I never liked Mosport in GPL, I find it very difficult plus the graphics >aren't too great, so I almost never practice there. But I realize I can >save a couple seconds from my handicap, so I've been training there for >the last couple hours. I've finally managed to get the hang of the two >major left hand turns, but I'm still having major problems with the jump >at the end. What usually happens is after landing, braking, and turning, >the car just slides off the left side of the track. Are there any >tricks to making it easier? Any setup tips for the Ferrari? Thanks. > >-Tony-

Ok, just before the rise ease off ever so slightly and get the car pointed in a straight line then power on up the rise (whilst still in 5th). Then when you land brake like billy-shit and drop 2 gears to 3rd and then turn in, EARLY (aim inside the driving line). Somehow this allows the car to slide out less whilst carrying more speed into the corner. Well... erm... that's how I do it. :) -- Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) No person's opinions can be said to be more correct than another's, because each is the sole judge of his or her own experience.

That's my technique too. A little scary at times though :-) Lars G. On Mon, 17 Jul 2000 14:34:05 GMT, SKurj <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I just lift before the crest, and DO NOT hit the brakes or turn the wheel, >until the car has settled after landing. You'll grow to love Mosport, it's >one of the more satisfying tracks in GPL > >Martyn_D > >Tony Jester wrote: > >> I never liked Mosport in GPL, I find it very difficult plus the graphics >> aren't too great, so I almost never practice there. But I realize I can >> save a couple seconds from my handicap, so I've been training there for >> the last couple hours. I've finally managed to get the hang of the two >> major left hand turns, but I'm still having major problems with the jump >> at the end. What usually happens is after landing, braking, and turning, >> the car just slides off the left side of the track. Are there any >> tricks to making it easier? Any setup tips for the Ferrari? Thanks. >> >> -Tony-

Thanks guys, I've managed to take almost 4 full seconds off my time there so far. Thanks for your advice. -Tony-

In article <[email hidden]>, SKurj <[email hidden]> writes: >I just lift before the crest, and DO NOT hit the brakes or turn the wheel, >until the car has settled after landing. You'll grow to love Mosport, it's >one of the more satisfying tracks in GPL > >Martyn_D Yeah, but you're...different.<g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +70.45 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

eerrr whatchu talkin about Eldred?? +) Martyn_D EldredP wrote:

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> In article <[email hidden]>, SKurj <[email hidden]> writes: > > >I just lift before the crest, and DO NOT hit the brakes or turn the wheel, > >until the car has settled after landing. You'll grow to love Mosport, it's > >one of the more satisfying tracks in GPL > > > >Martyn_D > > Yeah, but you're...different.<g> > > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +70.45 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <8l9a3t$su4$[email hidden]>, Richard G Clegg <[email hidden]> writes:

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>EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote: >: In article <[email hidden]>, SKurj <[email hidden]> writes: > >:>I just lift before the crest, and DO NOT hit the brakes or turn the wheel, >:>until the car has settled after landing. You'll grow to love Mosport, it's >:>one of the more satisfying tracks in GPL > >: Yeah, but you're...different.<g> > > No he's right Eldred - once it "clicks" Mosport is great. There's one >corner where you pop over a crest into a downhill off camber left-hander >and you just know that ALL the weight of the car is on the front right >wheel - it feels like balancing a chair on one leg. I really got to >like that track after some extensive practice. > > (Currently working on learning to love Mexico).

The only 'click' I can imagine is racking a 12-gauge before blowing Mosport to bits... BTW, that Left-hand turn you mentioned(and its evil twin) catch me out at least once out of every 2 or 3 laps... :( Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +70.45 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote: : In article <[email hidden]>, SKurj <[email hidden]> writes: :>I just lift before the crest, and DO NOT hit the brakes or turn the wheel, :>until the car has settled after landing. You'll grow to love Mosport, it's :>one of the more satisfying tracks in GPL : Yeah, but you're...different.<g> No he's right Eldred - once it "clicks" Mosport is great. There's one corner where you pop over a crest into a downhill off camber left-hander and you just know that ALL the weight of the car is on the front right wheel - it feels like balancing a chair on one leg. I really got to like that track after some extensive practice. (Currently working on learning to love Mexico). -- Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York UPDATED WWW: http://manor.york.ac.uk/

Actually, I AM starting to enjoy Mosport. And if it weren't for GPL Rank, I never would have bothered to stay at it for a couple hundred laps. There really is something satisfying about it, once you finally get the hang of it. But now I'm working on Monaco, where I am also about 3-4 seconds off where I should be. I'm actually starting to dislike GPL now...Monaco, except for the great graphics, is no fun whatsoever. -Tony- EldredP wrote:

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> > In article <8l9a3t$su4$[email hidden]>, Richard G Clegg <[email hidden]> > writes: > > >EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote: > >: In article <[email hidden]>, SKurj <[email hidden]> writes: > > > >:>I just lift before the crest, and DO NOT hit the brakes or turn the wheel, > >:>until the car has settled after landing. You'll grow to love Mosport, it's > >:>one of the more satisfying tracks in GPL > > > >: Yeah, but you're...different.<g> > > > > No he's right Eldred - once it "clicks" Mosport is great. There's one > >corner where you pop over a crest into a downhill off camber left-hander > >and you just know that ALL the weight of the car is on the front right > >wheel - it feels like balancing a chair on one leg. I really got to > >like that track after some extensive practice. > > > > (Currently working on learning to love Mexico). > > The only 'click' I can imagine is racking a 12-gauge before blowing Mosport to > bits... > BTW, that Left-hand turn you mentioned(and its evil twin) catch me out at least > once out of every 2 or 3 laps... :( > > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +70.45 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, Tony Jester <[email hidden]> writes: >Actually, I AM starting to enjoy Mosport. And if it weren't for GPL >Rank, I never would have bothered to stay at it for a couple hundred >laps. There really is something satisfying about it, once you finally >get the hang of it. >Well then, that's it. I can't get the hang of it... >But now I'm working on Monaco, where I am also about 3-4 seconds off >where I should be. I'm actually starting to dislike GPL now...Monaco, >except for the great graphics, is no fun whatsoever. > 3-4 seconds off? Where *should* you be? I'm at @1:31.xx... How far ahead are you? Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +70.45 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.