Re: Oh arse, now I've done it.....

On Tue 18 Jul 2000 02:58:02pm, Gareth Evans wrote: >Hi, >after reading all about it on this forum, I've just ordered GPL and >await its delivery by the end of the week. It seems like I could be on >for a serious addiction here. This with GP3 round the corner.....D'oh! >So in short, what do I need to know? Patches, addons, good sites, etc. http://www.papy.com (for the v1.2 patch, which is essential) http://www.theuspits.com (back up now) http://www.gplea.org http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de http://www.vroc.net That should get you going :-) -- David. (GPLRank handicap: +8.85) "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

Hi, after reading all about it on this forum, I've just ordered GPL and await its delivery by the end of the week. It seems like I could be on for a serious addiction here. This with GP3 round the corner.....D'oh! So in short, what do I need to know? Patches, addons, good sites, etc. Thanks for any help, Gareth Evans

http://www.papy.com (for the v1.2 patch, which is essential) http://www.theuspits.com (back up now) http://www.gplea.org [link lost in import] http://www.vroc.net That should get you going :-) -- David. (GPLRank handicap: +8.85) "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

Gareth Evans wrote in message <[email hidden]>... >after reading all about it on this forum, I've just ordered GPL and >await its delivery by the end of the week. It seems like I could be on >for a serious addiction here. This with GP3 round the corner.....D'oh! >So in short, what do I need to know? Patches, addons, good sites, etc. I'm a newbie like you. The main thing to do when you get the game is to practice, practice, practice. Forget the add-ons, just practice. But you will need the patch (adds force feedback support): http://www.papy.com/gpl/gpl.download.index.html While you wait, here's a few good sites with advice and other helpful info: http://simracing.com/alison/gpl/ http://website.lineone.net/~richardn/ http://bovineracing.com/ZGNews.htm Also, for good advice setting up force feedback: http://simracing.com/alison/gpl/force.htm http://simracingmag.com/eric6.html http://simracingmag.com/eric7.html Finally, to get into the spirit, here's detailed race reports from the real 1967 season: http://www.isanski.freeserve.co.uk/default.htm Bendito;

"Gareth Evans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi, > after reading all about it on this forum, I've just ordered GPL and > await its delivery by the end of the week. It seems like I could be on > for a serious addiction here. This with GP3 round the corner.....D'oh! > So in short, what do I need to know? Patches, addons, good sites, etc. not that it's relevant to this, but I have two unopened copies of GPL for sale for 10.49 plus shipping. That's what I paid for them, I'm not trying to make any profit. ~daxe

Thanks everyone, it's here tomorrow I hope. Daxe - looking at the price you got yours at Special Reserve, no? That's exactly what I paid for it. Later, Gareth Evans daxe wrote:

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> "Gareth Evans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hi, > > after reading all about it on this forum, I've just ordered GPL and > > await its delivery by the end of the week. It seems like I could be on > > for a serious addiction here. This with GP3 round the corner.....D'oh! > > So in short, what do I need to know? Patches, addons, good sites, etc. > > not that it's relevant to this, but I have two unopened copies of GPL for > sale for 10.49 plus shipping. That's what I paid for them, I'm not trying > to make any profit. > > ~daxe

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> On Fri 21 Jul 2000 03:16:58pm, Colin Harris wrote: > > >Well, for a start, their "sales tax" is a lot less than ours, > >David....ours in the UK is 17.5%, can you believe that? From my time > >in Ohio, I think it was about 6 3/4% there... > > Doesn't it vary from state to state?

Yes, it varies state to state, county to county, and even town to town. Here in Boulder, Boulder County, Colorado, USA, the total sales tax is approximately 7.75%. Dave Ewing -- ***************************************************** David A. Ewing Xilinx Boulder [email hidden] *****************************************************

On Fri 21 Jul 2000 03:35:04am, daxe wrote: <snip> >I told him 9.99 plus .50 sales tax (what I paid)<snip> I'm so glad I don't live in the US. Every time I try to understand the American system of sales taxes, my head starts spinning. Why on earth don't US shops do what British ones do - include the tax (VAT in our case) in the price on the sticker, then apply discounts for those who are eligible? -- David. (GPLRank handicap: +2.68) "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

On Fri 21 Jul 2000 03:16:58pm, Colin Harris wrote: >Well, for a start, their "sales tax" is a lot less than ours, >David....ours in the UK is 17.5%, can you believe that? From my time >in Ohio, I think it was about 6 3/4% there... Doesn't it vary from state to state? > But Americans are used to adding tax to their goods, it's as much > second nature to them as the intricacies of the lbw law are to us!! That's a silly argument - the same one used by some PC advertisers when they were told to start quoting VAT-inclusive prices (which most now do). And the lbw law is a *completely* different kettle of fish - that, of course, is not subject to the vagaries of logic ;-) -- David. (GPLRank handicap: +2.68) "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

I already owned GPL from way back. I got it for Xmas from my Mother-in-Law the year it was released. I have seen in here on several occasions that people either couldn't find the sim or found it but it was 60$USD or something ridiculous, so when I saw several copies of GPL for $9.99 at "Media Play" (Hadley, Massachusetts, USA) in its original packaging, I mentioned it in here thinking I might be able to help someone out. The same day I mentioned their availability in here a few weeks ago, some fellow emailed me and said he was interested. I told him 9.99 plus .50 sales tax (what I paid) plus 4.51 to cover shipping. I stopped the next day and bought 3 copies. He sent me a postal money order for 20$! I sent GPL to him the next day. So, I have two unopened copies for which I paid 10.49 USD. If anyone wants them for whatever reason (cheap gift to get someone into serious sim racing comes to mind...) I will send them for 10.49 plus shipping (3.20 for first class 2.80 for 3rd class in the USA) No extra charges, just trying to pile on some good karma. ~daxe "Gareth Evans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Thanks everyone, it's here tomorrow I hope. > Daxe - looking at the price you got yours at Special Reserve, no? That's > exactly what I paid for it. > Later, > Gareth Evans > > daxe wrote: > > > "Gareth Evans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Hi, > > > after reading all about it on this forum, I've just ordered GPL and > > > await its delivery by the end of the week. It seems like I could be on > > > for a serious addiction here. This with GP3 round the corner.....D'oh! > > > So in short, what do I need to know? Patches, addons, good sites, etc. > > > > not that it's relevant to this, but I have two unopened copies of GPL

for > > sale for 10.49 plus shipping. That's what I paid for them, I'm nottrying > > to make any profit. > > > > ~daxe >

Well, for a start, their "sales tax" is a lot less than ours, David....ours in the UK is 17.5%, can you believe that? From my time in Ohio, I think it was about 6 3/4% there... But Americans are used to adding tax to their goods, it's as much second nature to them as the intricacies of the lbw law are to us!! -- Colin Harris Colin Harris in N3/VROC ICQ 25485061 Remove "your knickers" to reply David Buttery <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Fri 21 Jul 2000 03:35:04am, daxe wrote: > > <snip> > >I told him 9.99 plus .50 sales tax (what I paid) > <snip> > > I'm so glad I don't live in the US. Every time I try to understand the > American system of sales taxes, my head starts spinning. Why on earth > don't US shops do what British ones do - include the tax (VAT in our > case) in the price on the sticker, then apply discounts for those who > are eligible? > > -- > David. (GPLRank handicap: +2.68) > "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, > really." > (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

In Ontario canada eh taxes on a product = 15%!!! 8% sales tax, 7% GST and it ain't included in the price Martyn_D David Buttery wrote:

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> On Fri 21 Jul 2000 03:16:58pm, Colin Harris wrote: > > >Well, for a start, their "sales tax" is a lot less than ours, > >David....ours in the UK is 17.5%, can you believe that? From my time > >in Ohio, I think it was about 6 3/4% there... > > Doesn't it vary from state to state? > > > But Americans are used to adding tax to their goods, it's as much > > second nature to them as the intricacies of the lbw law are to us!! > > That's a silly argument - the same one used by some PC advertisers when > they were told to start quoting VAT-inclusive prices (which most now > do). And the lbw law is a *completely* different kettle of fish - that, > of course, is not subject to the vagaries of logic ;-) > > -- > David. (GPLRank handicap: +2.68) > "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, > really." > (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

Sales taxes vary from state to state, as do income taxes. We pay a federal income tax and each state has their own policy on the matter of taxation. Some do not add any. Furthermore, some things are taxed and some are not. "Necessities" are not supposed to be taxed; clothing is not taxed, nor is food at a grocery store (in massachusetts, anyway) but food served in a restaurant and prescription drugs are taxed. We also get yearly 'excise' taxes on expensive stuff like cars and boats in massachusetts as a function of the estimated value Some municipalities also add their own taxes, such as new york city. Many cities have special taxes dedicated to staying in hotels and things, too. I am one of those nut cases who thinks income taxes should be abolished. After all, the country survived without them until early in the 20th century and they were promised to be 1/2 of 1% and no more when introduced (can now reach 50% or so very easily) VAT type taxes are brought up whenever tax reform is discussed and they are always shot down. A national sales tax of approx. 17.5% (of which there is none) is also suggested as an alternative to income taxes. I just know I am sick of having my paycheck raped by the government, considering much of the useless and self-serving nonsense it pays for. ~daxe

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>On Fri 21 Jul 2000 03:16:58pm, Colin Harris wrote: > >>Well, for a start, their "sales tax" is a lot less than ours, >>David....ours in the UK is 17.5%, can you believe that? From my time >>in Ohio, I think it was about 6 3/4% there... > >Doesn't it vary from state to state?

Yes (including some states with no sales tax at all), but I don't recall any state with a sales tax above 10%. Bendito;

Gareth, Life as you know it has expired. I recommend the following page: http://www.GPLersAnonymous.com Jens On Tue, 18 Jul 2000 14:58:02 +0100, Gareth Evans <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Hi, >after reading all about it on this forum, I've just ordered GPL and >await its delivery by the end of the week. It seems like I could be on >for a serious addiction here. This with GP3 round the corner.....D'oh! >So in short, what do I need to know? Patches, addons, good sites, etc. >Thanks for any help, >Gareth Evans

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In article <[email hidden]>, David Ewing <[email hidden]> writes: >Yes, it varies state to state, county to county, and even town to town. >Here in Boulder, Boulder County, Colorado, USA, the total sales tax is >approximately 7.75%. > >Dave Ewing I never knew that. I thought it was per state, not per county... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +70.45 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <R23e5.41281$[email hidden]>, "daxe" <[email hidden]> writes: >Furthermore, some things are taxed and some are not. >"Necessities" are not supposed to be taxed; clothing is not taxed Sure it is. At least everytime *I've* bought clothes... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +70.45 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

On Fri, 21 Jul 2000 14:16:58 GMT, "Colin Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Well, for a start, their "sales tax" is a lot less than ours, David....ours >in the UK is 17.5%, can you believe that? From my time in Ohio, I think it >was about 6 3/4% there... > But Americans are used to adding tax to their goods, it's as much second >nature to them as the intricacies of the lbw law are to us!! 17.5% ? Don't get me started. VAT in Sweden is 25%. /petern