Re: Grand Prix 3 - 170,000+ Pre-Booked Orders in UK.

Jeezes, without anyone having actually played or reviewed it? -Unbelievable. I have failed. ;-( Jan. =--- idav wrote...

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> In Edge Magazine. > > Says...at time of writing 170,000 bookings had been taken in UK. > > Could well be nigher 200,000 as of now. > > Impression of sim was most positive....FF was excellent as was rain

effect. > > So...GP3 already a box-office success.? > > Ian. > >

In Edge Magazine. Says...at time of writing 170,000 bookings had been taken in UK. Could well be nigher 200,000 as of now. Impression of sim was most positive....FF was excellent as was rain effect. So...GP3 already a box-office success.? Ian.

"idav" <[email hidden]> wrote > So...GP3 already a box-office success.? Good or bad, GP3 will be a seller that's for sure. I doubt any of us would contradict your statement. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

On Wed, 19 Jul 2000 20:03:33 +0100, "idav" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Says...at time of writing 170,000 bookings had been taken in UK. > >Could well be nigher 200,000 as of now. > >Impression of sim was most positive....FF was excellent as was rain effect. > >So...GP3 already a box-office success.?

GP3 - The Phantom Menace of car sims? This hype and high expectations must be bound for a let-down. /Magnus

Jan Verschueren <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Jeezes, without anyone having actually played or reviewedit? -Unbelievable. > > I have failed. ;-( > 200,000 pre-bookings on F1 2000 would have been madness. On GP3, I think its justified given the quality Crammond has produced in the past. Like it or not GPL is slipping back a little.

"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Jeezes, without anyone having actually played or reviewedit? -Unbelievable. > > I have failed. ;-( > > Jan. Naw, I don't think so. Look at it this way. We know the new Nascar4 is gonna be leaps and bounds above anything previous to it in the Papy Nascar Stable. Why? Two reasons...we KNOW all about the GPL engine it will be based upon. and we KNOW all about Dave K's talents. Even if it stank like a pig, there still would be tons of folks lined up to buy it. The same with GP3. we KNOW Crammond's reputation. heck we've been driving his tracks for months(Brands Hatch, Oring) I think you are letting your "features expectation" get in the way of what gp3 can be. Just looking at the rain racing is reason enough to consider buying the sim. Based on his past efforts, we can be sure the work in gp3 will be good. Will it have all the bells and whistles? Nope! I'm sure Hasbro had a small part in that....after all whose gonna buy GP4 next year if EVERYTHIJNG is already in GP3? dave henrie

If Noonan = Crammond then I can't believe I funded the development of GP3!! -I wuz robbed!! ;-) Jan. =--- Goy Larsen wrote... > <snip> > No he's not, he has just realized who David Noonan really is....... > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy

On Wed, 19 Jul 2000 22:20:43 +0200, Magnus Svensson <[email hidden]> wrote: >GP3 - The Phantom Menace of car sims? >This hype and high expectations must be bound for a let-down. Just like Phantom Menace - you may have a point there! John

Jon Van Ginneken wrote...

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> > "Dave Henrie" wrote... > > <snip> > > heck we've been driving his tracks for months > > (Brands Hatch, Oring) > > we have? what sim is this for?

He's confusing Crammond with Noonan... lol! ;-) Bzzzzt... next please. Jan. =---

> > GP3 - The Phantom Menace of car sims? > > This hype and high expectations must be bound for a let-down. > > SHUT UP! DON'T say that!!!!! I can't hear you anyway... LALALALALALALA No seriously, I've had the same thoughts as well. Still, even if it's just GP2 with 3D support, it'll rock.

"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hNqd5.25664$[email hidden]...

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> > "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Jeezes, without anyone having actually played or reviewed > it? -Unbelievable. > > > > I have failed. ;-( > > > > Jan. > Naw, I don't think so. Look at it this way. > We know the new Nascar4 is gonna be leaps and bounds above anything > previous to it in the Papy Nascar Stable. Why? Two reasons...we KNOW all > about the GPL engine it will be based upon. and we KNOW all about Dave

K's > talents. Even if it stank like a pig, there still would be tons of folks > lined up to buy it. > The same with GP3. we KNOW Crammond's reputation. Reputation in past 4 years: A lazy guy who's using the GP2 engine because he thought it was good enough. Wow, I am impressed. ICR2 and GP2 came about around the same time and in realism both were about the same...inaccurate, but both good for their time. Crammond considered what he had to be accurate enough and modifies it slightly...and that means it'll probably be the best F1 sim around, but come what he's done in the past few years hasn't been very impressive. On the other hand Kaemmer goes out there rips the thing apart and writes a very different and much more complex physics engine...that's why we know N4 will be the most realistic NASCAR sim....not to mention Papyrus tends to release demos to let you try the stuff before you buy it. > heck we've been > driving his tracks for months(Brands Hatch, Oring) we have? what sim is this for? > I think you are letting > your "features expectation" get in the way of what gp3 can be. Well considering he only 4 years to work on it there certainly should be much more features in there...not to mention only in the past year have they implemented 3d hardware support. > Just looking > at the rain racing is reason enough to consider buying the sim. It's a picture...that's all, you have no idea what the code is like behind it...heck PSX F1 sims had rain 4 years ago, that's not to say they were worth buying! Jon

Meesa qualsifies onsa polz?? Wat dat meansa ? Yousa drivsa a car dat looks mighty close to mine-ownsa car? Why ees dat? (the above message was completely generated by computer and no stuntmen were harmed in the process.) dave henrie "Berno" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Hsrd5.15185$[email hidden]... > Oh god the pain, please dont let Ja Ja Binks be in gp3!!!!!!! > > "

On Wed, 19 Jul 2000 21:41:36 +0200, "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote: >without anyone having actually played or reviewed it? -Unbelievable. People trust Crammond to produce a quality product. I've already pre-ordered.

"Magnus Svensson" <[email hidden]> wrote > GP3 - The Phantom Menace of car sims? YES!!! It will be an incredible racing simulator if so!!!!! Like The Phantom Menace, GP3 will be a title that at first look seems childish and commercial, but when looking more deeply will reveal an incredible powerful meaning and double-story, including a bad-guy wins ending. <who will debate in favor of TPM to death> ;-D -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Jan Verschueren wrote:

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> > Jon Van Ginneken wrote... > > > > "Dave Henrie" wrote... > > > <snip> > > > heck we've been driving his tracks for months > > > (Brands Hatch, Oring) > > > > we have? what sim is this for? > > He's confusing Crammond with Noonan... lol! ;-)

No he's not, he has just realized who David Noonan really is....... Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

Oh god the pain, please dont let Ja Ja Binks be in gp3!!!!!!! "Magnus Svensson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Wed, 19 Jul 2000 20:03:33 +0100, "idav" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >Says...at time of writing 170,000 bookings had been taken in UK. > > > >Could well be nigher 200,000 as of now. > > > >Impression of sim was most positive....FF was excellent as was rain

effect.

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> > > >So...GP3 already a box-office success.? > > GP3 - The Phantom Menace of car sims? > > This hype and high expectations must be bound for a let-down. > > > /Magnus

"ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:cXwd5.139624$[email hidden]...

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> "Magnus Svensson" <[email hidden]> wrote > > GP3 - The Phantom Menace of car sims? > > YES!!! It will be an incredible racing simulator if so!!!!! > > Like The Phantom Menace, GP3 will be a title that at first look seems > childish and commercial, but when looking more deeply will reveal an > incredible powerful meaning and double-story, including a bad-guy wins > ending. > > <who will debate in favor of TPM to death> ;-D

And just like TPM there will be people who will try and tell us it was actually good to try and justify there waste of time/money.... ;-) Jon

"ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:cXwd5.139624$[email hidden]...

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> "Magnus Svensson" <[email hidden]> wrote > > GP3 - The Phantom Menace of car sims? > > YES!!! It will be an incredible racing simulator if so!!!!! > > Like The Phantom Menace, GP3 will be a title that at first look seems > childish and commercial, but when looking more deeply will reveal an > incredible powerful meaning and double-story, including a bad-guy wins > ending. > > <who will debate in favor of TPM to death> ;-D >

And then when you look at it again you realize you were right the first time. :) If you're going to debate it to the death, My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my story, prepare to die!

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> > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.WeRace.net > -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't

realise > how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > > >

"> If you're going to debate it to the death, My name is Inigo Montoya, you > killed my story, prepare to die! > One of my alllllltime favorites...!!!! "I hate waiting!" dave henrie (here's a little bit of offtopic trivia. Back when The Princess Bride was released on video, there also was a Wing Commander game called Armada. Now one of the multiplayer aspects of Armada was pre-recorded taunts. You could use the stock canned taunts or record wav files yourself and transfer them before the game started and both sides could here what the other had to say. I took that Indigo Montoya speech and cut it up into 3 parts(that was because each wave file could only be about 4 seconds) tapped it , recorded it into a wave file on my computer and then transfered them to my opponent. My Modem buddy almost crapped his pants when I sent the taunts...no Kilrathi cats, or Federation speeches...just... Ello! My name is Indigo Montoya, You Killed my Father. Prepare to Die! )

In article <[email hidden]>, Shellfer <[email hidden]> writes: >#>So...GP3 already a box-office success.? ># >#GP3 - The Phantom Menace of car sims? >#This hype and high expectations must be bound for a let-down. > >I loved Phantom Menace, watched it 6 times in the cinema. Why...? I've never understood people watching movies multiple times. Are you afraid the hero won't get out of the jam the next time...? :) Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +69.95 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

#>So...GP3 already a box-office success.? # #GP3 - The Phantom Menace of car sims? #This hype and high expectations must be bound for a let-down. I loved Phantom Menace, watched it 6 times in the cinema. --- Shellfer.

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>In article <[email hidden]>, Shellfer ><[email hidden]> writes: > >>#>So...GP3 already a box-office success.? >># >>#GP3 - The Phantom Menace of car sims? >>#This hype and high expectations must be bound for a let-down. >> >>I loved Phantom Menace, watched it 6 times in the cinema. > >Why...? I've never understood people watching movies multiple times. Are >you >afraid the hero won't get out of the jam the next time...? :) >

What was he doing in the jam? Hey, that must be one weird film. :) -- Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) Remove ALL_STRESS before replying No person's opinions can be said to be more correct than another's, because each is the sole judge of his or her own experience.

In article <397fe126$[email hidden]>, "Stephen Ferguson" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>> >I loved Phantom Menace, watched it 6 times in the cinema. >> >> Why...? I've never understood people watching movies multiple times. Are >you >> afraid the hero won't get out of the jam the next time...? :) >> > >Depends on the film. There aren't a lot that I go back to see again, but >often the dialogue is so good, you can go back and pick up passages you >didn't hear the first time. In some really well written comedies, you can >be laughing so hard from the first joke you miss the next. Sometimes in a >particularly "beautiful" film it is good to go back a second time, free of >the need to concentrate on the story, and just take in the incredible >cinematography (something that doesn't translate well to video). And then >there are the "niche" films that we watch over and over again either as a >cult think ("Pulp Fiction", "Dr. Strangelove" whatever) or due to an >interest in a related topic ("Grand Prix" anyone?). >

But, I wouldn't *pay* to see a movie multiple times. If I'm channel surfing, and come across them, there are about 4-5 movies that I'll watch until the end. But, the TV's FREE... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +69.95 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> In article <[email hidden]>, Shellfer > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >#>So...GP3 already a box-office success.? > ># > >#GP3 - The Phantom Menace of car sims? > >#This hype and high expectations must be bound for a let-down. > > > >I loved Phantom Menace, watched it 6 times in the cinema. > > Why...? I've never understood people watching movies multiple times. Are

you > afraid the hero won't get out of the jam the next time...? :) > Depends on the film. There aren't a lot that I go back to see again, but often the dialogue is so good, you can go back and pick up passages you didn't hear the first time. In some really well written comedies, you can be laughing so hard from the first joke you miss the next. Sometimes in a particularly "beautiful" film it is good to go back a second time, free of the need to concentrate on the story, and just take in the incredible cinematography (something that doesn't translate well to video). And then there are the "niche" films that we watch over and over again either as a cult think ("Pulp Fiction", "Dr. Strangelove" whatever) or due to an interest in a related topic ("Grand Prix" anyone?). Stephen

#>#>So...GP3 already a box-office success.? #>#GP3 - The Phantom Menace of car sims? #>#This hype and high expectations must be bound for a let-down. #>I loved Phantom Menace, watched it 6 times in the cinema. #Why...? I've never understood people watching movies multiple times. Are you #afraid the hero won't get out of the jam the next time...? :) Heh. I don't know. I loved the lightsabre duelling part. Never seem to get bored of it. Another reason for watching the show a few times was i got some 'easter eggs' from the net, like they said ET was in there, so was Wookie. And how Obi Wan stuffed up his braids. :) --- Shellfer.