Re: To all GP3 complainers...

What good is excellent weather if you don't have visual/tactile feedback, nor the confidence to take the car to the limit? All in all, I agree though.. it's not _that_ bad. The changing weather is a valliant attempt at innovation, let's hope someone can build on it to make a better game. It's just too much like a GP2 add-on for my taste, I'm sorry. Jan. =--- Alexander Marx wrote... > <snip>

On Sat, 22 Jul 2000 16:37:34 +0200, "Alexander Marx" <[email hidden]> wrote: >don't write it off just because some people apparently expected the >second coming. Wouldn't that be the 3rd coming? :-)

> What do you think of the behaviour of the car on the curbs? much more forgiving than in GP2, it somehow seems like the curb is wider, program-wise, than is displayed in the graphics. But at least the curbs are in the right place most of the time ;-). Also, not every curb is the ame - there are ones that upset the car so much that you lose it almost certainly. But it's a minor flaw indeed.

> At one time I couldn't understand why you had a hardon for > F1 2000. But now you are looking like a fool and a total > Geoff Crammond suck boy... I am just stating my opinion, and I'm pretty confident others feel the same about it. GP2 was the best modern F1-sim even after the release of F1-2000 (which I still own btw). > As I seemed to recall, you somehow thought you were a real raceq > car driver or something? That is totally laughable. I am not, and I never said that. But I have driven a Formula 3 car on two occasions and have experience in 13hp+ Karts. If I ever did dare to bring in that personal experience in any kind of posting about Racing Simulations, I sincerely apologize. Why can I read your posts anyway ? Thought I had plonked you long ago.

The game delivers exactly what MPS has promised all the way - and boy does it deliver! Give this excellent sim a chance - you won't be able to race on VROC but you've got GPL for that. Everybody who can appreciate a good offline racing experience against the most advanced AI in a racing game yet - don't write it off just because some people apparently expected the second coming. You would miss out on the best racing sim to be released since GPL saw the light of day. Everyone who accuses GP3 of lack of new features : what would you call the revolutionary new weather system ? Has papy done anything that sophisticated before ? Ubi Soft ? Anybody ? Sorry, but the weather in GP3 truly is groundbreaking, innovative stuff that will take its place in the history of racing simulations. I can't see anything bad about the graphics either .. they are absolutely stunning on my Cel500, Voodoo3 3000. cheers, --- Alexander Marx mailo:[email hidden]

On Sat, 22 Jul 2000 16:37:34 +0200, "Alexander Marx" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Everyone who accuses GP3 of lack of new features : what would you call the >revolutionary new weather system ? Has papy done anything that sophisticated >before? Would you rather have a fabulous drive with no weather, or fabulous weather with no drive? Sure, both would be great, but all weather and no drive? No thanks. John

"Alexander Marx" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8lcbra$46rvr$[email hidden]... > The game delivers exactly what MPS has promised all the way - and boy does > it deliver! Give this excellent sim a chance - you won't be able to raceon Now why doesn't this surprise me???

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> VROC but you've got GPL for that. Everybody who can appreciate a good > offline racing experience against the most advanced AI in a racing game > yet - don't write it off just because some people apparently expected the > second coming. You would miss out on the best racing sim to be released > since GPL saw the light of day. > > Everyone who accuses GP3 of lack of new features : what would you call the > revolutionary new weather system ? Has papy done anything that

sophisticated I call it something that should have been included in GP2. At one time I couldn't understand why you had a hardon for F1 2000. But now you are looking like a fool and a total Geoff Crammond suck boy... > before ? Ubi Soft ? Anybody ? Sorry, but the weather in GP3 truly is > groundbreaking, innovative stuff that will take its place in the historyof > racing simulations. > > I can't see anything bad about the graphics either .. they are absolutely > stunning on my Cel500, Voodoo3 3000. > > cheers, As I seemed to recall, you somehow thought you were a real race car driver or something? That is totally laughable. Wow. -- [email hidden] > --- > Alexander Marx > mailo:[email hidden] > >

"Harjan Brand" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1xie5.1381$[email hidden]... > What do you think of the behaviour of the car on the curbs? Why I am sure he loves it... How can you ask him such a question?? -- [email hidden] > "Alexander Marx" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8lcbra$46rvr$[email hidden]... > > The game delivers exactly what MPS has promised all the way - and boy does > > it deliver! Give this excellent sim a chance - you won't be able to race > on > > VROC but you've got GPL for that. Everybody who can appreciate a good > > offline racing experience against the most advanced AI in a racing game > > yet - don't write it off just because some people apparently expected the > > second coming. You would miss out on the best racing sim to be released > > since GPL saw the light of day. > > > > Everyone who accuses GP3 of lack of new features : what would you call the > > revolutionary new weather system ? Has papy done anything that > sophisticated > > before ? Ubi Soft ? Anybody ? Sorry, but the weather in GP3 truly is > > groundbreaking, innovative stuff that will take its place in the history > of > > racing simulations. > > > > I can't see anything bad about the graphics either .. they are absolutely > > stunning on my Cel500, Voodoo3 3000. > > > > cheers, > > --- > > Alexander Marx > > mailo:[email hidden] > > > > > >

What do you think of the behaviour of the car on the curbs? "Alexander Marx" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8lcbra$46rvr$[email hidden]... > The game delivers exactly what MPS has promised all the way - and boy does > it deliver! Give this excellent sim a chance - you won't be able to raceon

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> VROC but you've got GPL for that. Everybody who can appreciate a good > offline racing experience against the most advanced AI in a racing game > yet - don't write it off just because some people apparently expected the > second coming. You would miss out on the best racing sim to be released > since GPL saw the light of day. > > Everyone who accuses GP3 of lack of new features : what would you call the > revolutionary new weather system ? Has papy done anything that

sophisticated > before ? Ubi Soft ? Anybody ? Sorry, but the weather in GP3 truly is > groundbreaking, innovative stuff that will take its place in the historyof

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> racing simulations. > > I can't see anything bad about the graphics either .. they are absolutely > stunning on my Cel500, Voodoo3 3000. > > cheers, > --- > Alexander Marx > mailo:[email hidden] > >

On Sat, 22 Jul 2000 14:50:37 GMT, "Harjan Brand" <[email hidden]> wrote: >What do you think of the behaviour of the car on the curbs? And those wonderfull screaming engines when you're being passed? Personally I find that one of the biggest letdowns... But ofcourse the retail version will have this. Andre

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> >"Alexander Marx" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:8lcbra$46rvr$[email hidden]... >> The game delivers exactly what MPS has promised all the way - and boy does >> it deliver! Give this excellent sim a chance - you won't be able to race >on >> VROC but you've got GPL for that. Everybody who can appreciate a good >> offline racing experience against the most advanced AI in a racing game >> yet - don't write it off just because some people apparently expected the >> second coming. You would miss out on the best racing sim to be released >> since GPL saw the light of day. >> >> Everyone who accuses GP3 of lack of new features : what would you call the >> revolutionary new weather system ? Has papy done anything that >sophisticated >> before ? Ubi Soft ? Anybody ? Sorry, but the weather in GP3 truly is >> groundbreaking, innovative stuff that will take its place in the history >of >> racing simulations. >> >> I can't see anything bad about the graphics either .. they are absolutely >> stunning on my Cel500, Voodoo3 3000. >> >> cheers, >> --- >> Alexander Marx >> mailo:[email hidden] >> >> >

We're paying what? $30, $40, $50... for a GP2 weather add-on? Crammond spent four years to create a weather patch? HA! Buyer beware! -- ----------------------------------- Morgan Vincent Wooten GPLRank: +31.07 mailto:[email hidden] http://members.tripod.com/~morganv/ ----------------------------------- Alexander Marx <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8lcbra$46rvr$[email hidden]... > The game delivers exactly what MPS has promised all the way - and boy does > it deliver! Give this excellent sim a chance - you won't be able to race on > VROC but you've got GPL for that. Everybody who can appreciate a good > offline racing experience against the most advanced AI in a racing game > yet - don't write it off just because some people apparently expected the > second coming. You would miss out on the best racing sim to be released > since GPL saw the light of day. > > Everyone who accuses GP3 of lack of new features : what would you call the > revolutionary new weather system ? Has papy done anything that sophisticated > before ? Ubi Soft ? Anybody ? Sorry, but the weather in GP3 truly is > groundbreaking, innovative stuff that will take its place in the history of > racing simulations. > > I can't see anything bad about the graphics either .. they are absolutely > stunning on my Cel500, Voodoo3 3000. > > cheers, > --- > Alexander Marx > mailo:[email hidden] > > >

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>The game delivers exactly what MPS has promised all the way - and boy >does >it deliver! Give this excellent sim a chance - you won't be able to race on >VROC but you've got GPL for that. Everybody who can appreciate a good >offline racing experience against the most advanced AI in a racing game >yet - don't write it off just because some people apparently expected the >second coming. You would miss out on the best racing sim to be released >since GPL saw the light of day. > >Everyone who accuses GP3 of lack of new features : what would you call the >revolutionary new weather system ? Has papy done anything that >sophisticated >before ? Ubi Soft ? Anybody ? Sorry, but the weather in GP3 truly is >groundbreaking, innovative stuff that will take its place in the history of >racing simulations. >

So am I expected to want this game because 1 race is 5 (yeah I'm estimating here) is going to have changeable weather? It's going to require a lot more than that to keep me coming back. As is though, I'll wait until the full version appears and then see what people are saying about it before I decide whether it's worth getting. >I can't see anything bad about the graphics either .. they are absolutely >stunning on my Cel500, Voodoo3 3000. > -- Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) No person's opinions can be said to be more correct than another's, because each is the sole judge of his or her own experience.

"Alexander Marx" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8lchs9$47ojh$[email hidden]... > > At one time I couldn't understand why you had a hardon for > > F1 2000. But now you are looking like a fool and a total > > Geoff Crammond suck boy... > > I am just stating my opinion, and I'm pretty confident others feel thesame > about it. GP2 was the best modern F1-sim even after the release of F1-2000 > (which I still own btw). Cool. > > As I seemed to recall, you somehow thought you were a real raceq > > car driver or something? That is totally laughable. > > I am not, and I never said that. But I have driven a Formula 3 car on two Yes that is what I remember. Thanks for reminding me. However as I recall at the time, you used that experience as all the proof anyone in their right mind needed as proof that F1 2000 sucked. IMHO you were wrong. And that is what pissed me off so much. The *ONLY* bad thing about F1 2000 that I agree with all of you guys about is the poor performance at the start of GP races. However since I upgraded my CPU to a P3-600 that has not been an issue. > occasions and have experience in 13hp+ Karts. If I ever did dare to bringin > that personal experience in any kind of posting about Racing Simulations,I > sincerely apologize. Noted... I guess you are an ok guy after all. > Why can I read your posts anyway ? Thought I had plonked you long ago. Because that is how plonking works. When I get a new ISP or change my email address in my news reader you will see my stuff. -- [email hidden]

I agree. I am really enjoying it. The weather is cool. It seems a little easy, but I'm not that great of a driver, so it works for me!! "Alexander Marx" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8lcbra$46rvr$[email hidden]... > The game delivers exactly what MPS has promised all the way - and boy does > it deliver! Give this excellent sim a chance - you won't be able to raceon

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> VROC but you've got GPL for that. Everybody who can appreciate a good > offline racing experience against the most advanced AI in a racing game > yet - don't write it off just because some people apparently expected the > second coming. You would miss out on the best racing sim to be released > since GPL saw the light of day. > > Everyone who accuses GP3 of lack of new features : what would you call the > revolutionary new weather system ? Has papy done anything that

sophisticated > before ? Ubi Soft ? Anybody ? Sorry, but the weather in GP3 truly is > groundbreaking, innovative stuff that will take its place in the historyof

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> racing simulations. > > I can't see anything bad about the graphics either .. they are absolutely > stunning on my Cel500, Voodoo3 3000. > > cheers, > --- > Alexander Marx > mailo:[email hidden] > >

Where are you guys getting this 4 year stuff? Wasn't it as little as a year or so ago Crammond denied being involved in a GP3 sim? I think perhaps it may have been put together fairly quickly based on GP2. -- Don Burnette Dburn in N3 and Legends ICQ# 74084566 "Morgan V. Wooten�" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Rsle5.11278$[email hidden]... > We're paying what? $30, $40, $50... for a GP2 weather add-on? Crammond spent > four years to create a weather patch? HA! Buyer beware! > > -- > ----------------------------------- > Morgan Vincent Wooten > GPLRank: +31.07 > mailto:[email hidden] > http://members.tripod.com/~morganv/ > ----------------------------------- > > Alexander Marx <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8lcbra$46rvr$[email hidden]... > > The game delivers exactly what MPS has promised all the way - and boy does > > it deliver! Give this excellent sim a chance - you won't be able to race on > > VROC but you've got GPL for that. Everybody who can appreciate a good > > offline racing experience against the most advanced AI in a racing game > > yet - don't write it off just because some people apparently expected the > > second coming. You would miss out on the best racing sim to be released > > since GPL saw the light of day. > > > > Everyone who accuses GP3 of lack of new features : what would you call the > > revolutionary new weather system ? Has papy done anything that sophisticated > > before ? Ubi Soft ? Anybody ? Sorry, but the weather in GP3 truly is > > groundbreaking, innovative stuff that will take its place in the history of > > racing simulations. > > > > I can't see anything bad about the graphics either .. they are absolutely > > stunning on my Cel500, Voodoo3 3000. > > > > cheers, > > --- > > Alexander Marx > > mailo:[email hidden] > > > > > > > >

On Sat, 22 Jul 2000 22:53:14 GMT Don Burnette <[email hidden]> wrote: % Where are you guys getting this 4 year stuff? Wasn't it as little as a year % or so ago Crammond denied being involved in a GP3 sim? % I think perhaps it may have been put together fairly quickly based on GP2. Over 2 years ago I was talking to folks at Thrustmaster that were working with Geoff on controller issues for GP3.... -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. [email hidden] http://www.teleport.com/~mcarver =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 13:56:32 GMT, "Michael E. Carver" [email hidden] <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>On Sat, 22 Jul 2000 22:53:14 GMT Don Burnette <[email hidden]> wrote: >% Where are you guys getting this 4 year stuff? Wasn't it as little as a year >% or so ago Crammond denied being involved in a GP3 sim? >% I think perhaps it may have been put together fairly quickly based on GP2. > >Over 2 years ago I was talking to folks at Thrustmaster that were >working with Geoff on controller issues for GP3.... >

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On Sat, 22 Jul 2000 18:00:56 +0200, Alexander Marx <[email hidden]> wrote: >> What do you think of the behaviour of the car on the curbs? > >much more forgiving than in GP2, it somehow seems like the curb is wider, >ame - there are ones that upset the car so much that you lose it almost >certainly. But it's a minor flaw indeed. JLGP2. Remember those infamous curbs that would launch into a summersault going over them at 10mph? Uwe -- Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) Ever wondered what's wrong with the world? http://bnetwork.com/ PGP Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61