Re: Best Wheel and Pedals At Any Cost?

Top of the range tsw like the one worth suede covering -- Kieran www.pcracing.co.uk for GP3 and WSC Mike Grandy <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:26Ce5.9224$[email hidden]... There is an ECCI CDS2 for sale via E-Bay. I had one and it was a great unit. I use the CDS4000 now and am very happy with it. Don't be afraid to buy a used one as they hold up extremely well. Michael K. Grandy Sr Proud Member of Precision Racing Professional Internet Race Team Powered by ECCI "ECCI - A proud sponsor of the 1998 NROS finals" The CDS4000 was designed for stock car racing... and it delivers NOTICE TO BULK E-MAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, p.227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to [email hidden] is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of Five-Hundred Dollars U.S. E-Mailing denotes acceptance of these terms. Member of Nass 2000 Pro Online Series Member of OSCAR Freedom Cup Series Member of the National Invitational Series The NIS is sponsored by Thomas Enterprises "Woodrow Stool" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Blte5.469$[email hidden]... That's my question - what are your suggestions for BEST wheel and pedals at any cost? I know that ECCI are no longer selling to home users, so that is not an option. I am NOT interested in force feedback, and I don't like the CH pedals (not enough resistance). I've tried the Logitech FF wheel, but the pedals are hopeless. Suggestions? I am located in the USA and am ready to spend what it takes for the right equipment. Thanks for any and all helpful replies.

There is a ecci at ebay, item 386100042. I luv my tsw. In article <Blte5.469$[email hidden]>, "Woodrow Stool" <[email hidden]> wrote: > That's my question - what are your suggestions for BEST wheel andpedals at > any cost? I know that ECCI are no longer selling to home users, sothat is > not an option. I am NOT interested in force feedback, and I don'tlike the > CH pedals (not enough resistance). I've tried the Logitech FF wheel,but > the pedals are hopeless. > > Suggestions? I am located in the USA and am ready to spend what ittakes > for the right equipment. Thanks for any and all helpful replies. > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

That's my question - what are your suggestions for BEST wheel and pedals at any cost? I know that ECCI are no longer selling to home users, so that is not an option. I am NOT interested in force feedback, and I don't like the CH pedals (not enough resistance). I've tried the Logitech FF wheel, but the pedals are hopeless. Suggestions? I am located in the USA and am ready to spend what it takes for the right equipment. Thanks for any and all helpful replies.

Woodrow, Definatly have to go with a TSW peice of equipment. These a great, durable wheels you will love (and check out the momo equipment they offer with them!) http://www.thomas-enterprises.com ds Woodrow Stool wrote in message ...

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>That's my question - what are your suggestions for BEST wheel and pedals at >any cost? I know that ECCI are no longer selling to home users, so that is >not an option. I am NOT interested in force feedback, and I don't like the >CH pedals (not enough resistance). I've tried the Logitech FF wheel, but >the pedals are hopeless. > >Suggestions? I am located in the USA and am ready to spend what it takes >for the right equipment. Thanks for any and all helpful replies. > >

The products of Redline in New Zealand look pretty fabulous to me, esp. the billet aluminum appearing pedal system. Colin something-or-other makes each system by himself, as I understand it, and his work appears to me to be that of a real artist. The best is the price; I think it is about $400 delivered to the US! The only problem is that I think he has to put you on a waiting list, as he can only crank them one at a time. From what I've seen, they are worth the wait. If I can get the URL, I'll repost it. Good luck! Glen Priest * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

Check out Ball Racing's Lotus 49 simulator... MM Woodrow Stool wrote:

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> That's my question - what are your suggestions for BEST wheel and pedals at > any cost? I know that ECCI are no longer selling to home users, so that is > not an option. I am NOT interested in force feedback, and I don't like the > CH pedals (not enough resistance). I've tried the Logitech FF wheel, but > the pedals are hopeless. > > Suggestions? I am located in the USA and am ready to spend what it takes > for the right equipment. Thanks for any and all helpful replies.

Dang! I wrote a long message (for me; I'm a slow typist!) earlier today, and somehow it didn't fly! In any case you may want to take a look at the Redline heel and pedals from Nigel Nichols in New Zealand. The stuff is gorgeous, and Nigel sounds like a real winner to me. He appears to be a real artist, and is way behind on his orders, but from his writing on his site and the pics of his stuff, I'd say it was worth the wait. He has an update on his progress posted about Thursday, and tells each order he is working on and how it is coming along. He is running it single-handedly, I think, and is cranking them out as fast as he can! I may have to get my name on his list in the end, even though he doesn't have FF implemented yet; my Logi can't last forever! Also, I think his price is about $400 US, delivered to your door! Amazing! Glen Priest Try it here: http.www.wave.co,nz/pages/lakewood/Redline.htm * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

That's the wrong web address. Try http://www.thomas-superwheel.com instead! --- Joeri J. Cox J_Cox on N3 - ICQ# 60159253 Co-founder of 502 Racing European Racing League - http://drive.to/erl "Daniel Shirley" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht news:LQte5.3063$[email hidden]...

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> Woodrow, > Definatly have to go with a TSW peice of equipment. > These a great, durable wheels you will love (and check out the momo > equipment they offer with them!) > > http://www.thomas-enterprises.com > > > ds > > Woodrow Stool wrote in message ... > >That's my question - what are your suggestions for BEST wheel and pedals

at > >any cost? I know that ECCI are no longer selling to home users, so thatis > >not an option. I am NOT interested in force feedback, and I don't likethe

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> >CH pedals (not enough resistance). I've tried the Logitech FF wheel, but > >the pedals are hopeless. > > > >Suggestions? I am located in the USA and am ready to spend what it takes > >for the right equipment. Thanks for any and all helpful replies. > > > > > >

There is an ECCI CDS2 for sale via E-Bay. I had one and it was a great unit. I use the CDS4000 now and am very happy with it. Don't be afraid to buy a used one as they hold up extremely well. Michael K. Grandy Sr Proud Member of Precision Racing Professional Internet Race Team Powered by ECCI "ECCI - A proud sponsor of the 1998 NROS finals" The CDS4000 was designed for stock car racing... and it delivers NOTICE TO BULK E-MAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, p.227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to [email hidden] is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of Five-Hundred Dollars U.S. E-Mailing denotes acceptance of these terms. Member of Nass 2000 Pro Online Series Member of OSCAR Freedom Cup Series Member of the National Invitational Series The NIS is sponsored by Thomas Enterprises "Woodrow Stool" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Blte5.469$[email hidden]... That's my question - what are your suggestions for BEST wheel and pedals at any cost? I know that ECCI are no longer selling to home users, so that is not an option. I am NOT interested in force feedback, and I don't like the CH pedals (not enough resistance). I've tried the Logitech FF wheel, but the pedals are hopeless. Suggestions? I am located in the USA and am ready to spend what it takes for the right equipment. Thanks for any and all helpful replies.

On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 03:09:21 GMT, "Woodrow Stool" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>That's my question - what are your suggestions for BEST wheel and pedals at >any cost? I know that ECCI are no longer selling to home users, so that is >not an option. I am NOT interested in force feedback, and I don't like the >CH pedals (not enough resistance). I've tried the Logitech FF wheel, but >the pedals are hopeless. > >Suggestions? I am located in the USA and am ready to spend what it takes >for the right equipment. Thanks for any and all helpful replies. >

Hyperstimulator. All the other equipment people have recommended are undoubtedly good quality gear but when you use them you are still sitting at your computer desk, in an office chair. For sheer immersion value, you can't beat sitting in the right position, with the right ergonomics. Plus the Hyper wheel has more lock than other I'm aware of, about 370 degrees from lock to lock and the pedals have suberb feel. Peter Holt

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> > Dang! I wrote a long message (for me; I'm a slow typist!) earlier > today, and somehow it didn't fly! In any case you may want to take a > look at the Redline heel and pedals from Nigel Nichols in New Zealand. > The stuff is gorgeous, and Nigel sounds like a real winner to me. He > appears to be a real artist, and is way behind on his orders, but from > his writing on his site and the pics of his stuff, I'd say it was worth > the wait. He has an update on his progress posted about Thursday, and > tells each order he is working on and how it is coming along. He is > running it single-handedly, I think, and is cranking them out as fast > as he can! I may have to get my name on his list in the end, even > though he doesn't have FF implemented yet; my Logi can't last forever! > Also, I think his price is about $400 US, delivered to your door! > Amazing! Glen Priest > Try it here: http://www.wave.co,nz/pages/lakewood/Redline.htm

I can only second that, I have the pedals and they are just amazing, if his wheels is anything like his pedals, you won't be disappointed I've never tried Hyperstimulator or anything like that, but if money is not a concern, then I guess Hyperstimulator would be something to look at as well Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

I have thought for a long time that if an out-of-date racing kart chassis were bought and the gamer's wheel and pedal wiring were incorporated into the kart and the monitor lcated correctly, one actually WOULD be seated in a racing device. I can't see how a plywood mock-up would be convincing for me. Someone clever could surely come up with something that would look and feel right and still not cost several thousands of dollars the way some of the more elaborate simulators do. I used to have a bookmark from "Tova" a young man from Italy, I believe, who had made a pretty realistic mock-up and mounted his controls and monitor to it. I wonder why we couldn't use PVC tubing to simulate the interior of a so-called "space-frame" chassis. Remember the "Birdcge" Maserati, anyone? Glen Priest * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

Glen Priest <[email hidden]> wrote: : I wonder why we couldn't use PVC tubing to simulate the interior : of a so-called "space-frame" chassis. Remember the "Birdcge" Maserati, : anyone? Glen Priest Remember it? I was watching one race last Sunday. -- Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York UPDATED WWW: http://manor.york.ac.uk/

Good idea, but please don't use PVC :-( Nothing can beat a welded steel contruction :-) Ask for furniture tube, bloody cheap. Jens BTW: What does "I cannot weld" mean? ;-) On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 08:37:03 -0700, Glen Priest <[email hidden]> wrote: <snip>

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> I wonder why we couldn't use PVC tubing to simulate the interior >of a so-called "space-frame" chassis. Remember the "Birdcge" Maserati, >anyone? Glen Priest > > >* Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * >The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

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Bravo!! And you are surely a lucky man! The first one I ever saw was at Stout Field in Indianapolis during the summer of 1960 or'61 I think; I didn't see another one until just a few years ago at Mid-Ohio at the Vintage Auto Races. And what incredibly fast monsters we thought they were in the early 60's! * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

Good idea, but please don't use PVC :-( Nothing can beat a welded steel contruction :-) Ask for furniture tube, ***y cheap. Jens BTW: What does "I cannot weld" mean? ;-) On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 08:37:03 -0700, Glen Priest <snip> --------------------------------------------- Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address JensSchumi homepage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ Racing simulation, esp. GPL Logitech Wingman FF optimization Classic cars, esp. Morris Minor Radio controlled airplanes

Monitor? For $3595 you can get a Compaq MP1600 projector and display it on the wall for as big as you want in 1024*768. The color and brightness are clear enough to leave the lights on. Now take this and a kart chasis, ff-wheel, and surround sound (in a helmet) and you would be set. The cool thing about this Compaq MP1600 is that you can also play TV/VCR/DVD thru it and not have to buy a big screen TV and it is under 6 pounds (US) and tiny, so it is portable. So I am thinking for about $10,000 dollars (this price includes the new computer) you could get an really nice simulator. What this does not get you is a version of GPL that works with an ACT Labs shifter!!! Still waiting on that. I really do not think it would help my times, but I think it would assist in the 'getting-into-the-sim' feeling that is sometimes missing. SLG Glen Priest <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I have thought for a long time that if an out-of-date racing kart >chassis were bought and the gamer's wheel and pedal wiring were >incorporated into the kart and the monitor lcated correctly, one >actually WOULD be seated in a racing device. I can't see how a plywood >mock-up would be convincing for me. Someone clever could surely come >up with something that would look and feel right and still not cost >several thousands of dollars the way some of the more elaborate >simulators do. > I used to have a bookmark from "Tova" a young man from Italy, I >believe, who had made a pretty realistic mock-up and mounted his >controls and monitor to it. > I wonder why we couldn't use PVC tubing to simulate the interior >of a so-called "space-frame" chassis. Remember the "Birdcge" Maserati, >anyone? Glen Priest > > >* Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * >The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! >

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Fantastic, Steve! I had no idea such a thing existed! And our danged 53 inch TV has been down for over a month; something amiss in the "regulator" circuit, whatever the heck THAT is! I don't know ANYONE who is rich and influential and also a sim enthusiast who I might encourage/beg to set up such a system, and *I* surely don't have thousands of bucks lying around that I could put to such use! I suppose if I were 20 years younger I could look forward to the time when such a set-up will be available for a fraction of today's cost, and I'll bet that time will come. Thanks again for your post! Glen Priest * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

Now lets look at this in a better way to convience the others in the house hold. A real race car would cost much more than $10,000, would require a crew of people to assist in tuning/fixing/ETC. The expense of the tow vehicle and trailer. Is there a place to race close by? The simulator is more eco friendly. No chances for personal ingery, well nothing major. One of the biggest problems is that, well how do I say this, I am not the greatest racer . . . so I would just be like a speed bump in the track, kinda like Lynn St James at the Indy 500 this year. :-O SLG Glen Priest <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Fantastic, Steve! I had no idea such a thing existed! And our danged >53 inch TV has been down for over a month; something amiss in the >"regulator" circuit, whatever the heck THAT is! I don't know ANYONE >who is rich and influential and also a sim enthusiast who I might >encourage/beg to set up such a system, and *I* surely don't have >thousands of bucks lying around that I could put to such use! I >suppose if I were 20 years younger I could look forward to the time >when such a set-up will be available for a fraction of today's cost, >and I'll bet that time will come. Thanks again for your post! Glen >Priest > > >* Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * >The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! >

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Ya' got me thinkin', Steve! :-))) Obviously I already have the computer, the Logi wheel and pedals, and if you could project on a large bedsheet, the costs might seem fairly reachable!! Glen Priest * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

Sure almost any wall surface works great, so I dare you to do it!!!! SLG Glen Priest <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Ya' got me thinkin', Steve! :-))) Obviously I already have the >computer, the Logi wheel and pedals, and if you could project on a >large bedsheet, the costs might seem fairly reachable!! Glen Priest > > >* Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * >The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! >

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Woodrow, Yoiu might want to take a look at TSW's pedals. They are very well made and the spring tension is quite adequate. You might find this article helpful. http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/hardware/features/wheels/index2.shtml Regards, Victor DiCosola Contributing Editor www.simhq.com

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>That's my question - what are your suggestions for BEST wheel and pedals at >any cost? I know that ECCI are no longer selling to home users, so that is >not an option. I am NOT interested in force feedback, and I don't like the >CH pedals (not enough resistance). I've tried the Logitech FF wheel, but >the pedals are hopeless. > >Suggestions? I am located in the USA and am ready to spend what it takes >for the right equipment. Thanks for any and all helpful replies. >