Re: GP3 Sucks! What a Piece of Shit

On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 13:48:48 -0500, "Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>"mracer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> It's kind of hard to believe but EA actually has a "best of class" sim. > >I agree. The #1 main reason I was hesitant to get F1 2000 is >because of the crappy NASCAR Revolution. I bought the game >and returned it within the hour. I thought all EA racing sims >would be the same. But I was wrong. F1 2000 is the way >better than I originally imagined. > >

I love EA Sports. I love the games they make, and i have quite a number of them. I was deadset on getting f1 2000. Then i read every review on here. It really does sound like a shithouse game. Cars crashing on the warm up laps etc. all the bugs. The only reason its got better is third party patches etc. GP3 wont have the amount of basic flaws that f12000 had. ___________________ Macca "I'd kill myself for you...Id kill you for myself" Pantera - This Love

I respect your opinion I have both I helped with some vrl files to make F1 2000 better (on release 90% of the AI could not get around Brazil Spa and France) and have played the game alot, I believe it's a solid base to imrove upon. But GP3 is better the dynamic weather is amazing the feel of the car is superb. The telemetary is ace, the AI is good. It ain't perfect but it's the best modern F1 sim there is F1 2001 if they add some features could be better though Regards Mike On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:38:37 GMT, mracer <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>GP3 is unbelievably disappointing. > >It isn't worth the plastic, paper, and ink used to make it. > >The worst offense is the physics, which are pure 1996. > >I won't go into all the things I hate about GP3, the list would be pages >long. > >In summary, it will be deleted from my hard drive. Despite significant >shortcomings, F1 2000 is an exponentially better modern F1 sim. > >It's kind of hard to believe but EA actually has a "best of class" sim.

On Sun 23 Jul 2000 07:38:37pm, mracer wrote: <snip> >It's kind of hard to believe but EA actually has a "best of class" >sim. MGPRS2? -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -1.01) "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

Agree... slight edge over F1 2k. IMO, of course. Jan. =--- David Buttery wrote...

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> On Sun 23 Jul 2000 07:38:37pm, mracer wrote: > > <snip> > >It's kind of hard to believe but EA actually has > >a "best of class" sim. > > MGPRS2? > > -- > David. (GPLRank handicap: -1.01) > "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, > really." > (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:38:37 GMT, mracer <[email hidden]> wrote: >In summary, it will be deleted from my hard drive. Right after you played it just a little more ...? If you're serious about your rants, shouldn't that be "it has been deleted from my hard drive"? LOL. How pathetic!

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> GP3 is unbelievably disappointing. > > It isn't worth the plastic, paper, and ink used to make it. > > The worst offense is the physics, which are pure 1996. > > I won't go into all the things I hate about GP3, the list would be

pages > long. > > In summary, it will be deleted from my hard drive. Despite significant > shortcomings, F1 2000 is an exponentially better modern F1 sim. > > It's kind of hard to believe but EA actually has a "best of class"sim. How about sharing at least *some* of your concerns about this title with us... because last time I checked software wasn't made of paper, ink and plastic and F1 2000 was utterly & unplayable crap... --Tel Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

<snip> MGPRS2? -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -1.01) "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

It shouldn't be there in the first place <g>

GP3 is unbelievably disappointing. It isn't worth the plastic, paper, and ink used to make it. The worst offense is the physics, which are pure 1996. I won't go into all the things I hate about GP3, the list would be pages long. In summary, it will be deleted from my hard drive. Despite significant shortcomings, F1 2000 is an exponentially better modern F1 sim. It's kind of hard to believe but EA actually has a "best of class" sim.

"mracer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > It's kind of hard to believe but EA actually has a "best of class" sim. I agree. The #1 main reason I was hesitant to get F1 2000 is because of the crappy NASCAR Revolution. I bought the game and returned it within the hour. I thought all EA racing sims would be the same. But I was wrong. F1 2000 is the way better than I originally imagined. -- [email hidden]

Hmmmm. "Its a disgrace." God I'm heartbroken for you Karl......I'm sure it totally ruined your day. Gee...fancy wasting all that time downloading a pirate copy of this piece of trash when you could of spent your time doing something far more interesting and rewarding instead....like picking the fluff out of your belly button. "I pity all of you who ordered it." You do.? Well thank you very much for your heartfelt concern bonny lad. I'm sure I'll be thinking of you when I plonk my hard earned cash down on the counter on Friday. I hope you enjoyed your free lunch even if it did turn out to upset your stomach. Ian. "Karl Zosel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uSHe5.144121$[email hidden]... > I just tested it: I totally agree. > Its a disgrace. > > Halsbro just made a deal with Mr Crammond to use his name to sell aslightly

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> improved version of GP2. > They used the same UNefficient graphics engine. > > I pity all of you who ordered it. > > mracer <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws > [email hidden]... > > GP3 is unbelievably disappointing. > > > > It isn't worth the plastic, paper, and ink used to make it. > > > > The worst offense is the physics, which are pure 1996. > > > > I won't go into all the things I hate about GP3, the list would be pages > > long. > > > > In summary, it will be deleted from my hard drive. Despite significant > > shortcomings, F1 2000 is an exponentially better modern F1 sim. > > > > It's kind of hard to believe but EA actually has a "best of class" sim. > > > >

mracer <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In summary, it will be deleted from my hard drive.It shouldn't be there in the first place <g>

Jan, pathetic is the way you are going to feel after you thow your money away buying GP3, even though you have been warned about how bad it is. Stupidity cannot be cured. Jan Loebzien wrote:

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> On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:38:37 GMT, mracer <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >In summary, it will be deleted from my hard drive. > > Right after you played it just a little more ...? > If you're serious about your rants, shouldn't that > be "it has been deleted from my hard drive"? > LOL. How pathetic!

I just tested it: I totally agree. Its a disgrace. Halsbro just made a deal with Mr Crammond to use his name to sell a slightly improved version of GP2. They used the same UNefficient graphics engine. I pity all of you who ordered it. mracer <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws [email hidden]...

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> GP3 is unbelievably disappointing. > > It isn't worth the plastic, paper, and ink used to make it. > > The worst offense is the physics, which are pure 1996. > > I won't go into all the things I hate about GP3, the list would be pages > long. > > In summary, it will be deleted from my hard drive. Despite significant > shortcomings, F1 2000 is an exponentially better modern F1 sim. > > It's kind of hard to believe but EA actually has a "best of class" sim. >

Everyone is entitled to make up their own mind, and the opinions here have been very varying.

Cheers, I'll give that a spin. Jan. =--- rrevved wrote...

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> <snip> > > Undocumented controller options in F1 2k... now > > there's something I hadn't heard about before. > > -Please elaborate. > > If you have the 1.09 patch: > > Click the alien's face at the right side of the bottom of the screen. > There are some options there.. >

Undocumented controller options in F1 2k... now there's something I hadn't heard about before. -Please elaborate. Like to know how you're able to mash the throttle in MGPRS2 too, I'm still driving that one competively. ;-)) Jan. =--- <[email hidden]> wrote...

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> <snip> > My experience is the opposite. In MGPRS2 I can smash and mash the gas > and brakes, but not so in F12K. Have you played around with the > undocumented controller settings etc. in F12K. F12K has a much better > feel to me. No I have not driven an F1 car before, but I do drive a > car and the feeling of the physics of driving is much closer in F12K. > Hands down winner in this area, and I bet GP3 doesn't match it in this > area either. > -- > Nos

Telemetry (though only usefull with external viewer) and various other subtle differences you may not even notice, depending on your driving style/talent. Let's just say F1 2K goes a little easy on the hamfisted for my taste. Graphically I got to admit F1 2K has it hands down and with the latest patch the AI is not all that bad, it's a very fine line. Jan. =--- <[email hidden]> wrote...

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> <snip> > In what way? Yes, I have both installed on my computer right now and > IMO F1 2000 is quite a bit better than MGPRS2. AI problems and all. > Once you get throught the first lap in F1 2000 things are not too bad > in the AI area. Most people who complain about it are people without > the machine it needs to run well. Looking forward to F1 2001 and wil > be passing on GP3 myself. > -- > Nos

On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 20:57:37 GMT, mracer <[email hidden]> wrote: >Jan, pathetic is the way you are going to feel after you thow your money >away buying GP3, even though you have been warned about how bad it is. No, pathetic would be to buy the game even though you have been "warned" and _then_ come back here and still complain. E.g "I couldn't believe it would be so bad so I went and bought it, but boy you were right, it's even worse ...". _That_ is stupidity that can't be cured. But since it can't be cured, rest assured some _will_ come back and complain. :-) That said, I think GP3 is a good game, just like GP2 was. I was just hoping for some more improvements. Blaze

You may want to know that on the day F1 2000 was released there were countless "F1 2000 sucks!" posts on newsgroups and forums everywhere. If those people were so wrong why can't you be? Give GP3 a few hours play and it really improves.

On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 21:43:56 +0200, "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >Agree... slight edge over F1 2k. IMO, of course.In what way? Yes, I have both installed on my computer right now and IMO F1 2000 is quite a bit better than MGPRS2. AI problems and all. Once you get throught the first lap in F1 2000 things are not too bad in the AI area. Most people who complain about it are people without the machine it needs to run well. Looking forward to F1 2001 and wil be passing on GP3 myself. -- Nos

On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 21:43:56 +0200, "Jan Verschueren" In what way? Yes, I have both installed on my computer right now and IMO F1 2000 is quite a bit better than MGPRS2. AI problems and all. Once you get throught the first lap in F1 2000 things are not too bad in the AI area. Most people who complain about it are people without the machine it needs to run well. Looking forward to F1 2001 and wil be passing on GP3 myself. -- Nos

On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:49:18 +0200, "Jan Verschueren" My experience is the opposite. In MGPRS2 I can smash and mash the gas and brakes, but not so in F12K. Have you played around with the undocumented controller settings etc. in F12K. F12K has a much better feel to me. No I have not driven an F1 car before, but I do drive a car and the feeling of the physics of driving is much closer in F12K. Hands down winner in this area, and I bet GP3 doesn't match it in this area either. -- Nos

Cheers, I'll give that a spin. Jan. =---

Yup... Just like GP2 was. Is that a Freudian slip??? --

On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:49:18 +0200, "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >Let's just say F1 2K goes a little easy on the hamfisted for >my taste. My experience is the opposite. In MGPRS2 I can smash and mash the gas and brakes, but not so in F12K. Have you played around with the undocumented controller settings etc. in F12K. F12K has a much better feel to me. No I have not driven an F1 car before, but I do drive a car and the feeling of the physics of driving is much closer in F12K. Hands down winner in this area, and I bet GP3 doesn't match it in this area either. -- Nos

On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:59:21 GMT, Tel <[email hidden]> wrote: >with us... because last time I checked software wasn't made of paper, >ink and plastic and F1 2000 was utterly & unplayable crap... I can hear the trees crying (amongst other natural resources) which died for the production of this thingy. Software isn't everything you know.... Regards, Uwe -- Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) Ever wondered what's wrong with the world? http://bnetwork.com/ PGP Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

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> In article <[email hidden]>, > mracer <[email hidden]> wrote: > > GP3 is unbelievably disappointing. > > > > It isn't worth the plastic, paper, and ink used to make it. > > > > The worst offense is the physics, which are pure 1996. > > > > I won't go into all the things I hate about GP3, the list would be > pages > > long. > > > > In summary, it will be deleted from my hard drive. Despite significant > > shortcomings, F1 2000 is an exponentially better modern F1 sim. > > > > It's kind of hard to believe but EA actually has a "best of class" > sim. > > How about sharing at least *some* of your concerns about this title > with us... because last time I checked software wasn't made of paper, > ink and plastic and F1 2000 was utterly & unplayable crap... > > --Tel

I have just run to my software shelf and I have found it to be full of paper, plastic, ink, and a few odd bits of aluminum. Hey, where did all my software go?!

"Jan Loebzien" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > That said, I think GP3 is a good game, just like GP2 was. > I was just hoping for some more improvements. Yup... Just like GP2 was. Is that a Freudian slip??? -- [email hidden]

"Macca" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I love EA Sports. I love the games they make, and i have quite a > number of them. I was deadset on getting f1 2000. Then i read every > review on here. It really does sound like a shithouse game. Cars > crashing on the warm up laps etc. all the bugs. The only reason its > got better is third party patches etc. GP3 wont have the amount of > basic flaws that f12000 had. Apparently you are correct. It will have whatever GP2 had. -- [email hidden]

"rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 19:07:58 +0200, "Jan Verschueren"<[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Undocumented controller options in F1 2k... now there's something Ihadn't > >heard about before. -Please elaborate. > > > > If you have the 1.09 patch: Or the 1.06 patch. Supposedly they removed the crash FF effects in the 1.09 patch. This makes the patch un suitable for me :-) -- [email hidden] > Click the alien's face at the right side of the bottom of the screen. > There are some options there.. > > >Like to know how you're able to mash the throttle in MGPRS2 too, I'm still > >driving that one competively. ;-)) > > > >Jan. > >=--- > ><[email hidden]> wrote... > >> <snip> > >> My experience is the opposite. In MGPRS2 I can smash and mash the gas > >> and brakes, but not so in F12K. Have you played around with the > >> undocumented controller settings etc. in F12K. F12K has a much better > >> feel to me. No I have not driven an F1 car before, but I do drive a > >> car and the feeling of the physics of driving is much closer in F12K. > >> Hands down winner in this area, and I bet GP3 doesn't match it in this > >> area either. > >> -- > >> Nos > > >

On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:44:03 -0500, "Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Yup... Just like GP2 was. Is that a Freudian slip??? No slip, it is like GP2, nothing wrong with that. GP2 was a good game. GP3 has everything that GP2 had, plus some improvements. I was hoping some for some _more_ improvements though. Blaze

On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 19:07:58 +0200, "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >Undocumented controller options in F1 2k... now there's something I hadn't >heard about before. -Please elaborate. Did you not get the 1.09 patch? If you did then click on the alien icon on the far right. Now click the top arrow to the right. >Like to know how you're able to mash the throttle in MGPRS2 too, I'm still >driving that one competively. ;-)) Compared to F12K it's a piece of cake. It's a good sim, but the physics are crap compared to F12K. -- Nos