Re: GP3 - has anyone tried it on a system like mine?

I think what it said was that you'd have to enable SLI mode in some .ini file but correct me if I'm wrong... FrenZy John Courtney <[email hidden]> skrev i en nyhedsmeddelelse:1nHe5.1075$[email hidden]...

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> Hi, > I did notice in the readme that GP3 has problems with V2 SLI, does it > have problems with standard V2 cards? My card seems to work with other > apps that use D3D on DirectX. > > Later, > John > > >I noticed you have a Voodoo2... > > > >Culling through the reviews / problems posts about the warez version, it > >sounds like GP3 doesn't like the Voodoo2 card, so you are stuck running > >in Software Rendering mode. > > > >Keep in mind that this is a problem on the warez version, so it might > >not be a concern with the retail version, but if the final version has > >this same problem, it won't be coming home with me. > > > >The last game that I was stuck playing in software rendering mode was > >GP2, but time has gone by and that's simply not acceptable anymore... > > > >--John >

In article <k5te5.1201$[email hidden]>, John Courtney <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Hi, > I realize that the version of the warez version floating around is >questionable, but I was just wondering if anyone has tried GP3 on a system >like mine: >(AMD K6-2 333, 128MB RAM, Voodoo 2 12MB) How is the performance? Are >there many graphics adjustments that can be made to improve framerate? The >weather system and improved AI sound good. Graphics are not awefully >important to me (I am almost blind! :) ) I don't mind turning things off >to get a little better framerate. (when you remove the stupid bitmap crowd, >you can replace them with whoever you want in your imagination) > >Later, >John

I noticed you have a Voodoo2... Culling through the reviews / problems posts about the warez version, it sounds like GP3 doesn't like the Voodoo2 card, so you are stuck running in Software Rendering mode. Keep in mind that this is a problem on the warez version, so it might not be a concern with the retail version, but if the final version has this same problem, it won't be coming home with me. The last game that I was stuck playing in software rendering mode was GP2, but time has gone by and that's simply not acceptable anymore... --John --

On Sun 23 Jul 2000 06:46:06am, Alexander Marx wrote: <snip> >There is only one way you can get the game to run >- in software mode, 640x480 most details off in about 20 fps. >The Hardware mode will most probably be too slow on your system.<snip> <scratches head in bewilderment> -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -1.01) "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

Me too, but I got nearly the same occupancy rates in software as in hardware. It's like the game doesn't use the 3D cards to accellerate the graphics, just to display them. Jan. =--- David Buttery wrote...

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> On Sun 23 Jul 2000 06:46:06am, Alexander Marx wrote: > <snip> > > <scratches head in bewilderment> > > -- > David. (GPLRank handicap: -1.01) > "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, > really." > (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

> >I installed it yesterday on my 2nd computer - that is a k6-2 300, 128 mb,V2 > >12mb. There is only one way you can get the game to run - > >in software mode, 640x480 most details off in about 20 fps. > >The Hardware mode will most probably be too slow on your system. > > *Hardware* mode is slower than software mode?!!?!? on slow systems the software mode is faster than the hardware mode, obviously because the game core is software rendering, and the hardware rendering is just an overhead to make it look better and add higher resolutions. When you have a fast system or a fast vid card this overhead will give you benefit, if you don't then software rendering is the way to go.

On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 07:46:06 +0200, "Alexander Marx" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I installed it yesterday on my 2nd computer - that is a k6-2 300, 128 mb, V2 >12mb. There is only one way you can get the game to run - >in software mode, 640x480 most details off in about 20 fps. >The Hardware mode will most probably be too slow on your system. *Hardware* mode is slower than software mode?!!?!? I'm not questioning your info, but the original purpose of hardware graphics acclerators seems to have been missed a little by the creators, John

I installed it yesterday on my 2nd computer - that is a k6-2 300, 128 mb, V2 12mb. There is only one way you can get the game to run - in software mode, 640x480 most details off in about 20 fps. The Hardware mode will most probably be too slow on your system. You will most likely be disappointed, so i'd not recommend GP3 for your current system.

Hi, I realize that the version of the warez version floating around is questionable, but I was just wondering if anyone has tried GP3 on a system like mine: (AMD K6-2 333, 128MB RAM, Voodoo 2 12MB) How is the performance? Are there many graphics adjustments that can be made to improve framerate? The weather system and improved AI sound good. Graphics are not awefully important to me (I am almost blind! :) ) I don't mind turning things off to get a little better framerate. (when you remove the stupid bitmap crowd, you can replace them with whoever you want in your imagination) Later, John

Hi, I realize that the version of the warez version floating around is questionable, but I was just wondering if anyone has tried GP3 on a system like mine: (AMD K6-2 333, 128MB RAM, Voodoo 2 12MB) How is the performance? Are there many graphics adjustments that can be made to improve framerate? The weather system and improved AI sound good. Graphics are not awefully important to me (I am almost blind! :) ) I don't mind turning things off to get a little better framerate. (when you remove the stupid bitmap crowd, you can replace them with whoever you want in your imagination) Later, John

That's bizarre. Marc.

>(AMD K6-2 333, 128MB RAM, Voodoo 2 12MB) How is the performance? OK, I am running it on a AMD K62-350, 128 sdram, 8 Mb AtI Rage IIc card. Runs great in d3d, I have adjusted the res from the default to 800X600 which I find gives better graphics... **ElfKing** T'was in a kingdom long ago and far away......

On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:21:08 GMT, ElfKing <[email hidden]> wrote: >OK, I am running it on a AMD K62-350, 128 sdram, 8 Mb AtI Rage IIc >card. Runs great in d3d, I have adjusted the res from the default to >800X600 which I find gives better graphics... How good is great? If this is true, I might yet bother with it...

That's bizarre. Marc. "Alexander Marx" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8let3j$445e0$[email hidden]... > > > >I installed it yesterday on my 2nd computer - that is a k6-2 300, 128mb,

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> V2 > > >12mb. There is only one way you can get the game to run - > > >in software mode, 640x480 most details off in about 20 fps. > > >The Hardware mode will most probably be too slow on your system. > > > > *Hardware* mode is slower than software mode?!!?!? > > on slow systems the software mode is faster than the hardware mode, > obviously because the game core is software rendering, and the hardware > rendering is just an overhead to make it look better and add higher > resolutions. When you have a fast system or a fast vid card this overhead > will give you benefit, if you don't then software rendering is the way to > go. > >

"Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote: >That's bizarre. I can't believe it's true ... surely Microprose wouldn't allow such a silly system to ship with their name on it. Joe McGinn _____________________ Radical Entertainment

Hi, I did notice in the readme that GP3 has problems with V2 SLI, does it have problems with standard V2 cards? My card seems to work with other apps that use D3D on DirectX. Later, John

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>I noticed you have a Voodoo2... > >Culling through the reviews / problems posts about the warez version, it >sounds like GP3 doesn't like the Voodoo2 card, so you are stuck running >in Software Rendering mode. > >Keep in mind that this is a problem on the warez version, so it might >not be a concern with the retail version, but if the final version has >this same problem, it won't be coming home with me. > >The last game that I was stuck playing in software rendering mode was >GP2, but time has gone by and that's simply not acceptable anymore... > >--John

Well, I cant run F1 2K at all..graphics wise, GPL runs but is such a slow frame rate that its not even worth playing at all. Run GP2 well. GP3 runs with d3d and is enjoyable in every way for me, thus the "great".:-) I should have qualified that statement more. I feel it is entirely possible that I simply "lucked out" with the game being compatible with my piece of junk video card. But as I read more and more posts here I am getting the feeling that those of you with very good video cards (therefore used to that kind of graphics) may be dissapointed here. Although I cant drive it, I can see the graphics on GPL. I can say without any qualms that GP3 graphics arent even close to GPL's. BUT good enough to be enjoyable and better than GP2's where. >How good is great? If this is true, I might yet bother with it... **ElfKing** T'was in a kingdom long ago and far away......

On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 13:29:49 GMT, [email hidden] (Toni Lassila) wrote: >How good is great? If this is true, I might yet bother with it... Toni, I appologize. As I stated I am not that experienced with sims.......I have been running in software mode not the d3d that I told you I was.:-( Let me start again. It runs great with everything turned on, (23 fps) , at 1024X768. My ATI Rage IIc 8Mb card is still a crappy card. There is no way i can get it to run d3d with ANY settings changed. Am I an idiot........possibly.:-) But I have played GP2 faithfully and my mistake was because the graphics were so much better than GP2. Still love the game, and yes it runs great for me.:-) Given the choice of upgrading my card or buying this game I will buy the game without reservation. The rain effects alone amaze me. You can actually watch the racing line dry out after the rain has stopped. The scenery as well is far more than I ever expected. And if you go outside the line while it is drying, the FF lets you know.:-) Still a good experience for me. BUT keep in mind that I dont play GPL or F1 2K. (cause of the card). Cheers **ElfKing** T'was in a kingdom long ago and far away......

On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:41:50 GMT, "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote: >That's bizarre. Ouch, it's even more of a signal that the source hasn't changed much, except for possibly areas like weather.c :) I will buy it ofcourse for the hardware acceleration support still. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the GP2 utils will work on GP3 unaltered. :( So sad Geoff hasn't called anybody in to get a fresh look of the things that needed to be done to make things a LOT better. Perhaps I'll give F1-2000 another spin.

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>Marc. > >"Alexander Marx" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:8let3j$445e0$[email hidden]... >> >> > >I installed it yesterday on my 2nd computer - that is a k6-2 300, 128 >mb, >> V2 >> > >12mb. There is only one way you can get the game to run - >> > >in software mode, 640x480 most details off in about 20 fps. >> > >The Hardware mode will most probably be too slow on your system. >> > >> > *Hardware* mode is slower than software mode?!!?!? >> >> on slow systems the software mode is faster than the hardware mode, >> obviously because the game core is software rendering, and the hardware >> rendering is just an overhead to make it look better and add higher >> resolutions. When you have a fast system or a fast vid card this overhead >> will give you benefit, if you don't then software rendering is the way to >> go. >> >> >

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