So How Is NSR?

Strange - out for a whole day and no comments so far ;) Anyone care to share their impressions so far. The few forum posts I've found suggest the worst-case scenario in that the demo was a fairly exact representation of the final product (car shape, mirror, sound, spotter, diff .... etc). However, I'd really like an excuse to buy this as I'd like to run the new rules and could do with a change. Regards

"Neil Charlton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:cuvqh3$pih$[email hidden]... > Strange - out for a whole day and no comments so far ;) > > Anyone care to share their impressions so far. The few forum posts I've > found suggest the worst-case scenario in that the demo was a fairly exact > representation of the final product (car shape, mirror, sound, spotter,diff > .... etc). However, I'd really like an excuse to buy this as I'd like torun > the new rules and could do with a change. > > Regards I feel the same way but I don't need an excuse. I'm a game addict. ;o) I'm not so perplexed. I'm going to get it (hopefully today). I'll get my money's worth just by running off line against the AI. (Practice . . . practice . . .practice.) But I do hope enough Rascar drivers are willing to take the chance and that we can try at least a few races online. Elrikk

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> Strange - out for a whole day and no comments so far ;) > > Anyone care to share their impressions so far. The few forum posts I've > found suggest the worst-case scenario in that the demo was a fairly exact > representation of the final product (car shape, mirror, sound, spotter, > diff .... etc). However, I'd really like an excuse to buy this as I'd like > to run the new rules and could do with a change. > > Regards >

I have heard it does not support the TSW.

There is a post on onlineracin.com where the TSW guys fund a way around the issue I believe. "JD" <JohnAnderson221z(nospam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OwLQd.11664$[email hidden]...

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> > "Neil Charlton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:cuvqh3$pih$[email hidden]... >> Strange - out for a whole day and no comments so far ;) >> >> Anyone care to share their impressions so far. The few forum posts I've >> found suggest the worst-case scenario in that the demo was a fairly exact >> representation of the final product (car shape, mirror, sound, spotter, >> diff .... etc). However, I'd really like an excuse to buy this as I'd >> like to run the new rules and could do with a change. >> >> Regards >> > > I have heard it does not support the TSW. >

Check this thread at RSC: http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=192597 Dave Jr. himself has addressed this issue and it works fine. FWIW, I ran the demo with my TSW2 w/ no problems. Best controller config from EA ever, IMHO. (Not that that says a whole lot).

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> > "Neil Charlton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:cuvqh3$pih$[email hidden]... > > Strange - out for a whole day and no comments so far ;) > > > > Anyone care to share their impressions so far. The few forum posts I've > > found suggest the worst-case scenario in that the demo was a fairly

exact > > representation of the final product (car shape, mirror, sound, spotter, > > diff .... etc). However, I'd really like an excuse to buy this as I'dlike > > to run the new rules and could do with a change. > > > > Regards > > > > I have heard it does not support the TSW. Demo supported mine fine. Haven't had a chance to get release yet. > >

Neil Charlton wrote: > Strange - out for a whole day and no comments so far ;) > > Anyone care to share their impressions so far. The few forum postsI've > found suggest the worst-case scenario in that the demo was a fairlyexact > representation of the final product (car shape, mirror, sound,spotter, diff > .... etc). However, I'd really like an excuse to buy this as I'd liketo run > the new rules and could do with a change. > > Regards Not looking too good right from the start! I setup a 25% distance race with the tire wear and fuel consumption set to X4. Every race I've tried like this has had a problem at the beginning of the lap that everyone will be pitting on. I'm at the back of the pack and entering turn 1 the whole pack slows waaaaay down. It took me about ten minutes to find this huge bug. I guess beta testing wasn't a big priority! Day one and already waiting for a patch!

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> Neil Charlton wrote: > > Strange - out for a whole day and no comments so far ;) > > > > Anyone care to share their impressions so far. The few forum posts > I've > > found suggest the worst-case scenario in that the demo was a fairly > exact > > representation of the final product (car shape, mirror, sound, > spotter, diff > > .... etc). However, I'd really like an excuse to buy this as I'd

like > to run > > the new rules and could do with a change. > > > > Regards > > Not looking too good right from the start! I setup a 25% distancerace > with the tire wear and fuel consumption set to X4. Every race I've > tried like this has had a problem at the beginning of the lap that > everyone will be pitting on. I'm at the back of the pack and entering > turn 1 the whole pack slows waaaaay down. It took me about tenminutes > to find this huge bug. I guess beta testing wasn't a big priority!Day > one and already waiting for a patch! I forgot, It was at Daytona

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> Neil Charlton wrote: > >>Strange - out for a whole day and no comments so far ;) >> >>Anyone care to share their impressions so far. The few forum posts > > I've > >>found suggest the worst-case scenario in that the demo was a fairly > > exact > >>representation of the final product (car shape, mirror, sound, > > spotter, diff > >>.... etc). However, I'd really like an excuse to buy this as I'd like > > to run > >>the new rules and could do with a change. >> >>Regards > > > Not looking too good right from the start! I setup a 25% distance race > with the tire wear and fuel consumption set to X4. Every race I've > tried like this has had a problem at the beginning of the lap that > everyone will be pitting on. I'm at the back of the pack and entering > turn 1 the whole pack slows waaaaay down. It took me about ten minutes > to find this huge bug. I guess beta testing wasn't a big priority! Day > one and already waiting for a patch! >

Well the demo sucked, so I'm not really surprised. I'll probably buy it anyway because I'm an idiot.

But wait, there's more!!! 1. VOIP doesn't work. 2. Spotters don't work. 3. Don't get me started on the Frame Rate issue. NO FSAA or your Frame Rates tank, and the graphics look AWFUL without it. 4. If you are using a Momo, do not set the FF to Full. That actually turns it off LOL. Set it to HIGH instead. 5. Ejected from car on crash? Sheesh! I'm not giving up yet, but so far it looks like Thunder 2005 and that's a crying shame. After all the Hype we get this? Oh, btw... Took me 10 min to find a screen name that wasn't taken. As bad as AOL LOL On the good side online looked pretty stable. -Larry "sleepy21" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > Neil Charlton wrote: >> Strange - out for a whole day and no comments so far ;) >> >> Anyone care to share their impressions so far. The few forum posts > I've >> found suggest the worst-case scenario in that the demo was a fairly > exact >> representation of the final product (car shape, mirror, sound, > spotter, diff >> .... etc). However, I'd really like an excuse to buy this as I'd like > to run >> the new rules and could do with a change. >> >> Regards > > Not looking too good right from the start! I setup a 25% distance race > with the tire wear and fuel consumption set to X4. Every race I've > tried like this has had a problem at the beginning of the lap that > everyone will be pitting on. I'm at the back of the pack and entering > turn 1 the whole pack slows waaaaay down. It took me about ten minutes > to find this huge bug. I guess beta testing wasn't a big priority! Day > one and already waiting for a patch! >

Ok, how the heck do you select Daytona Night? All I can find is day. -Larry "sleepy21" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > Neil Charlton wrote: >> Strange - out for a whole day and no comments so far ;) >> >> Anyone care to share their impressions so far. The few forum posts > I've >> found suggest the worst-case scenario in that the demo was a fairly > exact >> representation of the final product (car shape, mirror, sound, > spotter, diff >> .... etc). However, I'd really like an excuse to buy this as I'd like > to run >> the new rules and could do with a change. >> >> Regards > > Not looking too good right from the start! I setup a 25% distance race > with the tire wear and fuel consumption set to X4. Every race I've > tried like this has had a problem at the beginning of the lap that > everyone will be pitting on. I'm at the back of the pack and entering > turn 1 the whole pack slows waaaaay down. It took me about ten minutes > to find this huge bug. I guess beta testing wasn't a big priority! Day > one and already waiting for a patch! >

How many people did you have on the server Larry? I seen one other post in a forum that said that online was shaky so was just curious. "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZsTQd.42230$EG1.34395@lakeread04...

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> But wait, there's more!!! > > 1. VOIP doesn't work. > 2. Spotters don't work. > 3. Don't get me started on the Frame Rate issue. NO FSAA or your Frame > Rates tank, and the graphics look AWFUL without it. > 4. If you are using a Momo, do not set the FF to Full. That actually > turns it off LOL. Set it to HIGH instead. > 5. Ejected from car on crash? Sheesh! > > I'm not giving up yet, but so far it looks like Thunder 2005 and that's a > crying shame. After all the Hype we get this? > > Oh, btw... Took me 10 min to find a screen name that wasn't taken. As bad > as AOL LOL > > On the good side online looked pretty stable. > > -Larry > > "sleepy21" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> >> Neil Charlton wrote: >>> Strange - out for a whole day and no comments so far ;) >>> >>> Anyone care to share their impressions so far. The few forum posts >> I've >>> found suggest the worst-case scenario in that the demo was a fairly >> exact >>> representation of the final product (car shape, mirror, sound, >> spotter, diff >>> .... etc). However, I'd really like an excuse to buy this as I'd like >> to run >>> the new rules and could do with a change. >>> >>> Regards >> >> Not looking too good right from the start! I setup a 25% distance race >> with the tire wear and fuel consumption set to X4. Every race I've >> tried like this has had a problem at the beginning of the lap that >> everyone will be pitting on. I'm at the back of the pack and entering >> turn 1 the whole pack slows waaaaay down. It took me about ten minutes >> to find this huge bug. I guess beta testing wasn't a big priority! Day >> one and already waiting for a patch! >> > >

Drive the trucks...all you'll get is night. Marc "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:_tTQd.42231$EG1.22012@lakeread04...

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> Ok, how the heck do you select Daytona Night? All I can find is day. > > -Larry > > "sleepy21" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> >> Neil Charlton wrote: >>> Strange - out for a whole day and no comments so far ;) >>> >>> Anyone care to share their impressions so far. The few forum posts >> I've >>> found suggest the worst-case scenario in that the demo was a fairly >> exact >>> representation of the final product (car shape, mirror, sound, >> spotter, diff >>> .... etc). However, I'd really like an excuse to buy this as I'd like >> to run >>> the new rules and could do with a change. >>> >>> Regards >> >> Not looking too good right from the start! I setup a 25% distance race >> with the tire wear and fuel consumption set to X4. Every race I've >> tried like this has had a problem at the beginning of the lap that >> everyone will be pitting on. I'm at the back of the pack and entering >> turn 1 the whole pack slows waaaaay down. It took me about ten minutes >> to find this huge bug. I guess beta testing wasn't a big priority! Day >> one and already waiting for a patch! >> > >

Well, there were 30 plus scoring... -Larry "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:HXTQd.49399$K54.38035@edtnps84...

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> How many people did you have on the server Larry? I seen one other post > in a forum that said that online was shaky so was just curious. > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ZsTQd.42230$EG1.34395@lakeread04... >> But wait, there's more!!! >> >> 1. VOIP doesn't work. >> 2. Spotters don't work. >> 3. Don't get me started on the Frame Rate issue. NO FSAA or your Frame >> Rates tank, and the graphics look AWFUL without it. >> 4. If you are using a Momo, do not set the FF to Full. That actually >> turns it off LOL. Set it to HIGH instead. >> 5. Ejected from car on crash? Sheesh! >> >> I'm not giving up yet, but so far it looks like Thunder 2005 and that's a >> crying shame. After all the Hype we get this? >> >> Oh, btw... Took me 10 min to find a screen name that wasn't taken. As >> bad as AOL LOL >> >> On the good side online looked pretty stable. >> >> -Larry >> >> "sleepy21" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >>> >>> Neil Charlton wrote: >>>> Strange - out for a whole day and no comments so far ;) >>>> >>>> Anyone care to share their impressions so far. The few forum posts >>> I've >>>> found suggest the worst-case scenario in that the demo was a fairly >>> exact >>>> representation of the final product (car shape, mirror, sound, >>> spotter, diff >>>> .... etc). However, I'd really like an excuse to buy this as I'd like >>> to run >>>> the new rules and could do with a change. >>>> >>>> Regards >>> >>> Not looking too good right from the start! I setup a 25% distance race >>> with the tire wear and fuel consumption set to X4. Every race I've >>> tried like this has had a problem at the beginning of the lap that >>> everyone will be pitting on. I'm at the back of the pack and entering >>> turn 1 the whole pack slows waaaaay down. It took me about ten minutes >>> to find this huge bug. I guess beta testing wasn't a big priority! Day >>> one and already waiting for a patch! >>> >> >> > >

Wa Wa Wa What! -Larry "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8aUQd.7740$[email hidden]...

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> Drive the trucks...all you'll get is night. > > Marc > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:_tTQd.42231$EG1.22012@lakeread04... >> Ok, how the heck do you select Daytona Night? All I can find is day. >> >> -Larry >> >> "sleepy21" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >>> >>> Neil Charlton wrote: >>>> Strange - out for a whole day and no comments so far ;) >>>> >>>> Anyone care to share their impressions so far. The few forum posts >>> I've >>>> found suggest the worst-case scenario in that the demo was a fairly >>> exact >>>> representation of the final product (car shape, mirror, sound, >>> spotter, diff >>>> .... etc). However, I'd really like an excuse to buy this as I'd like >>> to run >>>> the new rules and could do with a change. >>>> >>>> Regards >>> >>> Not looking too good right from the start! I setup a 25% distance race >>> with the tire wear and fuel consumption set to X4. Every race I've >>> tried like this has had a problem at the beginning of the lap that >>> everyone will be pitting on. I'm at the back of the pack and entering >>> turn 1 the whole pack slows waaaaay down. It took me about ten minutes >>> to find this huge bug. I guess beta testing wasn't a big priority! Day >>> one and already waiting for a patch! >>> >> >> > >

JTS wrote: > Well the demo sucked, so I'm not really surprised. I'll probably buyit > anyway because I'm an idiot. The demo does not suck at all, it is genre defining and a HUGE step up from Papyrus's feeble Nascar sim efforts.

"Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8aUQd.7740$[email hidden]... > Drive the trucks...all you'll get is night. Oh there's ANOTHER strike against it! They can't even get the day/night car/truck track associations right...

You can drive Daytona both day and night. When you choose the Daytona track, you click on the rules tab right next to the track tab, and choose whether to run the Daytona 500 or the Pepsi 400. -- David G Fisher "The Captain" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FDeRd.33730$[email hidden]... > > "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8aUQd.7740$[email hidden]... > > Drive the trucks...all you'll get is night. > > Oh there's ANOTHER strike against it! > > They can't even get the day/night car/truck track associations right... > >

Does anyone have a 'return to center' spring effect while playing the sim? I have the FFB to full, reverse effects and a MOMO Force racing wheel. I must have something setup wrong, because this driving model seems very strange--the centering spring for one is quite annoying, and the FFB are practically non existent--even smashing head on into a wall at high rate of speed gives little more than a small vibration, if even that. I fired up NR2003 to make sure the wheel wasn't broken, and it isn't. I have also tried FFB at High, and there is little difference. With the FFB set to medium, the driving reminds me of Chase for the Cup--there is simply no feel, at all, coming through the wheel. I will keep fiddling with settings, but I see there are no longer any more control options in the *. plr file. I can't believe any serious sim would force a centering spring effect. I hope it's my setup....

Let's not get carried away here :) There's a lot of potential in NSR but it needs a bit of work to qualify as a Huge step up from NR2003. At least there is hope this time. -Larry <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> JTS wrote: > >> Well the demo sucked, so I'm not really surprised. I'll probably buy > it >> anyway because I'm an idiot. > > The demo does not suck at all, it is genre defining and a HUGE step up > from Papyrus's feeble Nascar sim efforts. >

See my other post for the fix. -Larry "Smokin_Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Does anyone have a 'return to center' spring effect while playing the > sim? I have the FFB to full, reverse effects and a MOMO Force racing > wheel. I must have something setup wrong, because this driving model > seems very strange--the centering spring for one is quite annoying, and > the FFB are practically non existent--even smashing head on into a wall > at high rate of speed gives little more than a small vibration, if even > that. I fired up NR2003 to make sure the wheel wasn't broken, and it > isn't. I have also tried FFB at High, and there is little difference. > > > With the FFB set to medium, the driving reminds me of Chase for the > Cup--there is simply no feel, at all, coming through the wheel. I will > keep fiddling with settings, but I see there are no longer any more > control options in the *. plr file. I can't believe any serious sim > would force a centering spring effect. I hope it's my setup.... >

Aha! Thanks :) -Larry "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> You can drive Daytona both day and night. When you choose the Daytona > track, > you click on the rules tab right next to the track tab, and choose whether > to run the Daytona 500 or the Pepsi 400. > > > -- > David G Fisher > > "The Captain" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:FDeRd.33730$[email hidden]... >> >> "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:8aUQd.7740$[email hidden]... >> > Drive the trucks...all you'll get is night. >> >> Oh there's ANOTHER strike against it! >> >> They can't even get the day/night car/truck track associations right... >> >> > >

Larry wrote: > Let's not get carried away here :) > > There's a lot of potential in NSR but it needs a bit of work toqualify as a > Huge step up from NR2003. > > At least there is hope this time. > > -Larry Perhaps I'm getting a little carried away with how impressed I am playing the demo but I still view it as a step up from nr2003 and I see that as a great achievement for the team at EA. :)

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> Larry wrote: > > > Let's not get carried away here :) > > > > There's a lot of potential in NSR but it needs a bit of work to > qualify as a > > Huge step up from NR2003. > > > > At least there is hope this time. > > > > -Larry > > Perhaps I'm getting a little carried away with how impressed I am > playing the demo but I still view it as a step up from nr2003 and I see > that as a great achievement for the team at EA. :)

The full release is much better than the demo so you have more to get excited about. :-) The car handles *a lot* better. -- David G Fisher

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> JTS wrote: > > >>Well the demo sucked, so I'm not really surprised. I'll probably buy > > it > >>anyway because I'm an idiot. > > > The demo does not suck at all, it is genre defining and a HUGE step up > from Papyrus's feeble Nascar sim efforts. >

Nope. It's a proven fact. It sucks.

I'm not sold on that quite yet :) I'm all over the friggen track! The steering is SO sensitive to me but I'm working on that. -Larry "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> The full release is much better than the demo so you have more to get > excited about. :-) The car handles *a lot* better. > -- > David G Fisher > > > >

"The steering is SO sensitive to me but I'm working on that." This seems to be the biggest problem that I have. Getting the wheel setup so that a slight twitch doesn't send you into a wall, but not so "dead" that you are turning the wheel 180 deg. to make a turn at Tally. Of course, it's nothing new for EA games, it tokk me weeks to get the steering the way I like it for F1C. Certainly there is the "newness" factor and getting used to the way the game reacts to controller movement, but it just seems to me that the same things that have plagued past EA racing titles still exist. Addtionally, anyone who praises the graphic excellence of this sim, but omits any negativity regarding the car models should immediatley be discounted. The car models are awful. I understand that EA is going ito issue some kind of "patch" for the 2005 paint schemes, but I doubt that they will rework the entire model. The 4x4 look to them is a problem and unless you use the .hdv change and forfeit the option to run online (due to mismatched files) this is another problem that needs to be handled. And just how long does the "sticker" on a new tire last? I ran behind an AI car for 20 laps and the sticker never went away. Why bother with a "feature" like that when IRL it only shows up for a handful of laps? The aggression level leaves me wondering. I turned it down from the default 95% to low 80% and still get slammed all over the track. It feels like JJ vs. Harvick in T2 yesterday, but everywhere. I can't seem to find a happy medium for AA/AF settings. 4AA and 4AF are just high enough to make the image look good, but at Daytona, I am getting 30 fps at the back of a full field. (P4 3.0ghz, 1024 RAM, Radeon 9800 Pro). Any higher looks awesome during testing, but it's a stutterfest during a race. Finally, the setups that are included are awful. Understeer would be an understatement. Without changing them, I'd guess AI would have to set at 80% or lower just to keep up. If you "setup handicapped" like I am, then you no have to wait for the sim community to start spitting out decent setups. I've tried to tweak the default ones and have gotten a little better, but they need a lot of work, if not dumping the whole lot of them.

Actually, I think the AI is pretty decent. At least they _try_ not to make you a Piniball. The AI in NR2003 is it's weakest points. Those boys are nuts! You are absolutely right about the setups and understeer. The setups need serious work. Try Richmond. With any of the setups you spend half the turn with your suspension hanging on the ground showering sparks. I'm not kidding! Richmond is a damned treat though beyond that. Give it a try. It is quickly becomming my favorite short track. -Larry "Darus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "The steering is SO sensitive to me but I'm working on that." > > > This seems to be the biggest problem that I have. Getting the wheel > setup so that a slight twitch doesn't send you into a wall, but not so > "dead" that you are turning the wheel 180 deg. to make a turn at Tally. > Of course, it's nothing new for EA games, it tokk me weeks to get the > steering the way I like it for F1C. Certainly there is the "newness" > factor and getting used to the way the game reacts to controller > movement, but it just seems to me that the same things that have > plagued past EA racing titles still exist. > > Addtionally, anyone who praises the graphic excellence of this sim, but > omits any negativity regarding the car models should immediatley be > discounted. The car models are awful. I understand that EA is going ito > issue some kind of "patch" for the 2005 paint schemes, but I doubt that > they will rework the entire model. The 4x4 look to them is a problem > and unless you use the .hdv change and forfeit the option to run online > (due to mismatched files) this is another problem that needs to be > handled. And just how long does the "sticker" on a new tire last? I ran > behind an AI car for 20 laps and the sticker never went away. Why > bother with a "feature" like that when IRL it only shows up for a > handful of laps? > > The aggression level leaves me wondering. I turned it down from the > default 95% to low 80% and still get slammed all over the track. It > feels like JJ vs. Harvick in T2 yesterday, but everywhere. > > I can't seem to find a happy medium for AA/AF settings. 4AA and 4AF are > just high enough to make the image look good, but at Daytona, I am > getting 30 fps at the back of a full field. (P4 3.0ghz, 1024 RAM, > Radeon 9800 Pro). Any higher looks awesome during testing, but it's a > stutterfest during a race. > > Finally, the setups that are included are awful. Understeer would be an > understatement. Without changing them, I'd guess AI would have to set > at 80% or lower just to keep up. If you "setup handicapped" like I am, > then you no have to wait for the sim community to start spitting out > decent setups. I've tried to tweak the default ones and have gotten a > little better, but they need a lot of work, if not dumping the whole > lot of them. >

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> "Neil Charlton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:cuvqh3$pih$[email hidden]... > >>Strange - out for a whole day and no comments so far ;) >> >>Anyone care to share their impressions so far. The few forum posts I've >>found suggest the worst-case scenario in that the demo was a fairly exact >>representation of the final product (car shape, mirror, sound, spotter, >>diff .... etc). However, I'd really like an excuse to buy this as I'd like >>to run the new rules and could do with a change. >> >>Regards >> > > > I have heard it does not support the TSW. > >

Yet another game that doesn't work off the bat with the TSW. What's so difficult about it??? There's no drivers to make it work, simply plug it in and calibrate it in the Windows game controller manager. Why wouldn't games accept that? Papyrus/Sierra was the only game company, in memory, that hasn't given me problems with my TSW. Plus, have any of you read the disclaimer at the back of NSR box? 1) You have to register to play online. 2) EA reserves the right to remove the online servers a) 30 days after the servers come online for the first time or b) 10 days after the beginning of the 2005 season (again if I remember correctly). What, no direct IP racing? P.

The problem with the handling is because your ff isn't working right. Once you get that sorted, the car will settle in nicely. I had the ame problem when my ff wans't working. -- David G Fisher "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1zpRd.46785$EG1.23009@lakeread04... > I'm not sold on that quite yet :) > > I'm all over the friggen track! > > The steering is SO sensitive to me but I'm working on that. > > -Larry > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > The full release is much better than the demo so you have more to get > > excited about. :-) The car handles *a lot* better. > > -- > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > >

Yeah, it's starting to come together :) -Larry "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> The problem with the handling is because your ff isn't working right. Once > you get that sorted, the car will settle in nicely. I had the ame problem > when my ff wans't working. > > > -- > David G Fisher > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:1zpRd.46785$EG1.23009@lakeread04... >> I'm not sold on that quite yet :) >> >> I'm all over the friggen track! >> >> The steering is SO sensitive to me but I'm working on that. >> >> -Larry >> >> "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >> >> > The full release is much better than the demo so you have more to get >> > excited about. :-) The car handles *a lot* better. >> > -- >> > David G Fisher >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >

Yeah, it's starting to come together :) -Larry

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> The problem with the handling is because your ff isn't working right. Once > you get that sorted, the car will settle in nicely. I had the ame problem > when my ff wans't working. > -- > David G Fisher >> I'm not sold on that quite yet :) >> I'm all over the friggen track! >> The steering is SO sensitive to me but I'm working on that. >> -Larry >> > The full release is much better than the demo so you have more to get >> > e***d about. :-) The car handles *a lot* better. >> > -- >> > David G Fisher

You know, you're right. There is NO direct IP online. Damn... -Larry "Cowboy Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QusRd.29222$[email hidden]...

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> JD wrote: >> "Neil Charlton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:cuvqh3$pih$[email hidden]... >> >>>Strange - out for a whole day and no comments so far ;) >>> >>>Anyone care to share their impressions so far. The few forum posts I've >>>found suggest the worst-case scenario in that the demo was a fairly exact >>>representation of the final product (car shape, mirror, sound, spotter, >>>diff .... etc). However, I'd really like an excuse to buy this as I'd >>>like to run the new rules and could do with a change. >>> >>>Regards >>> >> >> >> I have heard it does not support the TSW. > > Yet another game that doesn't work off the bat with the TSW. What's so > difficult about it??? There's no drivers to make it work, simply plug it > in and calibrate it in the Windows game controller manager. Why wouldn't > games accept that? Papyrus/Sierra was the only game company, in memory, > that hasn't given me problems with my TSW. > > Plus, have any of you read the disclaimer at the back of NSR box? 1) You > have to register to play online. 2) EA reserves the right to remove the > online servers a) 30 days after the servers come online for the first time > or b) 10 days after the beginning of the 2005 season (again if I remember > correctly). What, no direct IP racing? > > P.

Actually there is Direct IP but not until you log into their server. Damn... -Larry "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:GIsRd.48590$EG1.45594@lakeread04... > You know, you're right. There is NO direct IP online. > > Damn... > > -Larry

Your telling me that to even use direct IP you first need to connect to the EA servers?? Sigh. "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:OAtRd.48948$EG1.38727@lakeread04...

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> Actually there is Direct IP but not until you log into their server. > Damn... > > -Larry > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:GIsRd.48590$EG1.45594@lakeread04... >> You know, you're right. There is NO direct IP online. >> >> Damn... >> >> -Larry > >

>> Actually there is Direct IP but not until you log into their server. >> Damn... So you can't play on a LAN unless it has internet access???? That sux

>> The problem with the handling is because your ff isn't working right. >> Once >> you get that sorted, the car will settle in nicely. I had the ame problem >> when my ff wans't working. This is sounding remarkably similar to when I first tried EA's F12001. I hated it at first but the more I perservered with the controller/car setup etc the more I liked it.

Sure looks like it. You don't see the Direct IP option until you are on the GameSpy server. -Larry "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:i6uRd.82$NN.35@edtnps89...

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> Your telling me that to even use direct IP you first need to connect to > the EA servers?? > Sigh. > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:OAtRd.48948$EG1.38727@lakeread04... >> Actually there is Direct IP but not until you log into their server. >> Damn... >> >> -Larry >> >> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:GIsRd.48590$EG1.45594@lakeread04... >>> You know, you're right. There is NO direct IP online. >>> >>> Damn... >>> >>> -Larry >> >> > >

No, LAN is a separate connection button from Online. -Larry "Steve Simpson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... >>> Actually there is Direct IP but not until you log into their server. >>> Damn... > > So you can't play on a LAN unless it has internet access???? That sux >

Well, there MAY be hope but it will have to be tested. In the LAN connection, you can select LAN, Cable or DSL. I can only assume you can put in an IP as the race server address. We'll have to try this to see if it works. If they have limited it to single-segment IP then it won't work. -Larry "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:RCARd.51882$EG1.4909@lakeread04...

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> Sure looks like it. > > You don't see the Direct IP option until you are on the GameSpy server. > > -Larry > > "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:i6uRd.82$NN.35@edtnps89... >> Your telling me that to even use direct IP you first need to connect to >> the EA servers?? >> Sigh. >> >> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:OAtRd.48948$EG1.38727@lakeread04... >>> Actually there is Direct IP but not until you log into their server. >>> Damn... >>> >>> -Larry >>> >>> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>> news:GIsRd.48590$EG1.45594@lakeread04... >>>> You know, you're right. There is NO direct IP online. >>>> >>>> Damn... >>>> >>>> -Larry >>> >>> >> >> > >

Odd, my TSW2 works flawlessly, aside from the sensitivity issue. This was the first EA titles that worked right off the bat for me. TSW2 Stock, added clutch, added 2 buttons. Rockfire USB adapter.

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> [email hidden] wrote: > >> JTS wrote: >> >> >>> Well the demo sucked, so I'm not really surprised. I'll probably buy >> >> >> it >> >>> anyway because I'm an idiot. >> >> >> >> The demo does not suck at all, it is genre defining and a HUGE step up >> from Papyrus's feeble Nascar sim efforts. >> > > Nope. It's a proven fact. It sucks.

I do like the full version of the game though.