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GPL IS STILL KING!

14 posts by 7 people · 24 Jul 2000 11:15 UTC - 25 Jul 2000 18:36 UTC

Vintook 24 Jul 2000 11:15 UTC#251862
Like I said a couple months back, GP3 is just GP2 with a facelift. It might be the best modern F1 sim out there but it still doesn't even come close to reigning king of racing simulation, GPL. I've played the warez version and find it just as good as all the others out there, but if I really want to race on my computer I boot up GPL still. GP3, nothing but hype! I guess we'll just have to wait till World Sports Car comes out since Crammond just took a big shit and out came GP3. Vintook
Olav K. Malmin 24 Jul 2000 11:58 UTC#251750
Rod Prince <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (17 lines)> In article <bzVe5.4539$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > says... > > > Like I said a couple months back, GP3 is just GP2 with a facelift. It might > > be the best modern F1 sim out there but it still doesn't even come close to > > reigning king of racing simulation, GPL. > > At the end of the day, its success will be measured based on sales, and > will be crowned on that criteria alone. > > GPL is the reigning king crowned by the minority, unfortunately. > > It's a superb simulation, but out of reach to your average racer. This is > where GP3 will excel. The market is driven by sales, and as such, you're > more likely to see a GP4 than you will a GPL2. ;( > > So which one really is king? Time will tell.
So good music is only music that sells well ? :P -- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying
Olav K. Malmin 24 Jul 2000 12:15 UTC#251766
Rod Prince <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (36 lines)> In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > Rod Prince <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > > In article <bzVe5.4539$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > > > says... > > > > > > > Like I said a couple months back, GP3 is just GP2 with a facelift. It might > > > > be the best modern F1 sim out there but it still doesn't even come close to > > > > reigning king of racing simulation, GPL. > > > > > > At the end of the day, its success will be measured based on sales, and > > > will be crowned on that criteria alone. > > > > > > GPL is the reigning king crowned by the minority, unfortunately. > > > > > > It's a superb simulation, but out of reach to your average racer. This is > > > where GP3 will excel. The market is driven by sales, and as such, you're > > > more likely to see a GP4 than you will a GPL2. ;( > > > > > > So which one really is king? Time will tell. > > > > So good music is only music that sells well ? :P > > There's no direct correlation between a good and product and a successful > product. Nowhere did I say or imply that GP3 was good. (especially > considering I've yet to play it) - yet, I called GPL superb. > > When you see the monthly PC charts, what's it based on? Sales. > > When you see Top 40 music charts, what's it based on? Sales. > > What simulation is more likely to generate a sequel? The ones that sell > well. > > Don't put words in my mouth.
That was not the intention, and i'm sorry if i did. Actually, looking at my comment again, I see it didn't quite fit in as I hoped to. :) -- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying
Jon Van Ginneken 24 Jul 2000 16:50 UTC#251658
"Rod Prince" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:MPG.13e6d7c84c26c6c9989709@news-server... > So which one really is king? Time will tell. Exactly...we have played GPL for almost 2 years now and interest has not depleted much....you think a sub-par product will last that long? Jon
Kevin Gavitt 24 Jul 2000 20:14 UTC#251461
"Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bzVe5.4539$[email hidden]... > Like I said a couple months back, GP3 is just GP2 with a facelift. Itmight > be the best modern F1 sim out there but it still doesn't even come closeto > reigning king of racing simulation, GPL. I've played the warez version and > find it just as good as all the others out there, but if I really want to > race on my computer I boot up GPL still. GP3, nothing but hype! I guess > we'll just have to wait till World Sports Car comes out since Crammondjust > took a big shit and out came GP3. > > Vintook > > > Ah sir. Your critical eloquence surpasses that of the masters. Twain, Mencken, Swift, Orwell, Shaw, et all, are all rolling in their graves tonight as you add yourself to the list of purveyors of their fine art.
Vintook 24 Jul 2000 21:21 UTC#251397
Attacking a poster's use of words seems to reveal the lack of a real point pertaining to the subject. Stick to the topic or don't type anything. That would at least unclutter this newsgroup a little. Yes I realize responding to you just cluttered it further. Vintook "Kevin Gavitt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hs1f5.14195$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:bzVe5.4539$[email hidden]... > > Like I said a couple months back, GP3 is just GP2 with a facelift. It > might > > be the best modern F1 sim out there but it still doesn't even come close > to > > reigning king of racing simulation, GPL. I've played the warez version
and > > find it just as good as all the others out there, but if I really wantto
Quoted text (15 lines)> > race on my computer I boot up GPL still. GP3, nothing but hype! I guess > > we'll just have to wait till World Sports Car comes out since Crammond > just > > took a big shit and out came GP3. > > > > Vintook > > > > > > > > Ah sir. Your critical eloquence surpasses that of the masters. Twain, > Mencken, Swift, Orwell, Shaw, et all, are all rolling in their graves > tonight as you add yourself to the list of purveyors of their fine art. > >
Han Monsees 24 Jul 2000 21:56 UTC#251412
We should stop comparing GPL, GP3, WSC etc. They are all kings in a different kingdom (actually, I prefer president in a different republic). It is impossible to compare a no-aerodynamics, threaded narrow tire 400 BHP low-tech carsim to a winged, wide-tire 800+ BHP high-tech car sim to a winged closed-wheel 1000 kg 1000 BHP sportscar sim and say which is best. It's almost as ridiculous as comparing FIFA 2000 to Roland Garros tennis grtngs, HGRM "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bzVe5.4539$[email hidden]... > Like I said a couple months back, GP3 is just GP2 with a facelift. Itmight > be the best modern F1 sim out there but it still doesn't even come closeto > reigning king of racing simulation, GPL. I've played the warez version and > find it just as good as all the others out there, but if I really want to > race on my computer I boot up GPL still. GP3, nothing but hype! I guess > we'll just have to wait till World Sports Car comes out since Crammondjust > took a big shit and out came GP3. > > Vintook > > >
Rod Prince 25 Jul 2000 02:51 UTC#251742
In article <bzVe5.4539$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > Like I said a couple months back, GP3 is just GP2 with a facelift. It might > be the best modern F1 sim out there but it still doesn't even come close to > reigning king of racing simulation, GPL. At the end of the day, its success will be measured based on sales, and will be crowned on that criteria alone. GPL is the reigning king crowned by the minority, unfortunately. It's a superb simulation, but out of reach to your average racer. This is where GP3 will excel. The market is driven by sales, and as such, you're more likely to see a GP4 than you will a GPL2. ;( So which one really is king? Time will tell. Cheers, Rod.
Kevin Gavitt 25 Jul 2000 03:07 UTC#251198
"Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8r2f5.4656$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (15 lines)> Attacking a poster's use of words seems to reveal the lack of a real point > pertaining to the subject. Stick to the topic or don't type anything. That > would at least unclutter this newsgroup a little. Yes I realize responding > to you just cluttered it further. > > Vintook > > "Kevin Gavitt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:hs1f5.14195$[email hidden]... > > > > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:bzVe5.4539$[email hidden]... > > > Like I said a couple months back, GP3 is just GP2 with a facelift. It > > might > > > be the best modern F1 sim out there but it still doesn't even come
close > > to > > > reigning king of racing simulation, GPL. I've played the warez version > and > > > find it just as good as all the others out there, but if I really want > to > > > race on my computer I boot up GPL still. GP3, nothing but hype! Iguess
Quoted text (16 lines)> > > we'll just have to wait till World Sports Car comes out since Crammond > > just > > > took a big shit and out came GP3. > > > > > > Vintook > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah sir. Your critical eloquence surpasses that of the masters. Twain, > > Mencken, Swift, Orwell, Shaw, et all, are all rolling in their graves > > tonight as you add yourself to the list of purveyors of their fine art. > > > > > >
I'm sorry, but reading my post again I see nothing but praise in it. Perhaps you misunderstood me. So, let me try to rephrase it in more poitive terms. Ok? How about; Vintook took a big shit and out came GPL IS STILL KING! ? Better? I'm not sure I do your fine words justice, but I shall endeavor to learn.
Rod Prince 25 Jul 2000 03:15 UTC#251762
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...
Quoted text (21 lines)> Rod Prince <[email hidden]> writes: > > > In article <bzVe5.4539$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > > says... > > > > > Like I said a couple months back, GP3 is just GP2 with a facelift. It might > > > be the best modern F1 sim out there but it still doesn't even come close to > > > reigning king of racing simulation, GPL. > > > > At the end of the day, its success will be measured based on sales, and > > will be crowned on that criteria alone. > > > > GPL is the reigning king crowned by the minority, unfortunately. > > > > It's a superb simulation, but out of reach to your average racer. This is > > where GP3 will excel. The market is driven by sales, and as such, you're > > more likely to see a GP4 than you will a GPL2. ;( > > > > So which one really is king? Time will tell. > > So good music is only music that sells well ? :P
There's no direct correlation between a good and product and a successful product. Nowhere did I say or imply that GP3 was good. (especially considering I've yet to play it) - yet, I called GPL superb. When you see the monthly PC charts, what's it based on? Sales. When you see Top 40 music charts, what's it based on? Sales. What simulation is more likely to generate a sequel? The ones that sell well. Don't put words in my mouth. Cheers, Rod.
Simon Brown 25 Jul 2000 04:34 UTC#251207
> I'm sorry, but reading my post again I see nothing but praise in it.Perhaps
Quoted text (11 lines)> you misunderstood me. > > So, let me try to rephrase it in more poitive terms. Ok? > > How about; Vintook took a big shit and out came GPL IS STILL KING! ? > > Better? > > I'm not sure I do your fine words justice, but I shall endeavor to learn. > >
ROFLMAO !!! Oh god that was funny...
Olav K. Malmin 25 Jul 2000 06:19 UTC#251143
"Han Monsees" <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (7 lines)> We should stop comparing GPL, GP3, WSC etc. They are all kings in a > different kingdom (actually, I prefer president in a different republic). It > is impossible to compare a no-aerodynamics, threaded narrow tire 400 BHP > low-tech carsim to a winged, wide-tire 800+ BHP high-tech car sim to a > winged closed-wheel 1000 kg 1000 BHP sportscar sim and say which is best. > > It's almost as ridiculous as comparing FIFA 2000 to Roland Garros tennis
Both games needs a good ballistic model for the ball based on the laws of Newton :P -- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying
Kevin Gavitt 25 Jul 2000 18:36 UTC#250835
"Olav K. Malmin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "Han Monsees" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > We should stop comparing GPL, GP3, WSC etc. They are all kings in a > > different kingdom (actually, I prefer president in a differentrepublic). It > > is impossible to compare a no-aerodynamics, threaded narrow tire 400 BHP > > low-tech carsim to a winged, wide-tire 800+ BHP high-tech car sim to a > > winged closed-wheel 1000 kg 1000 BHP sportscar sim and say which isbest. > > > > It's almost as ridiculous as comparing FIFA 2000 to Roland Garros tennis A fine aviator.
Quoted text (7 lines)> > Both games needs a good ballistic model for the ball based on the laws > of Newton :P > > -- > Olav K. Malmin > remove spam when replying

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