R: 3Dfx of nVIDIA?

HAHAHAHAHA Glide and GeForce HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA. If u wanna play GPL the only card that will do the job is the Voodoo5, GeForce supports glide just as well as it supports FSAA. Wishkah Andy Middleton <[email hidden]> wrote in message 8liave$ne4$[email hidden]...

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> Simon Brown <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:sd%e5.17371$[email hidden]... > > Voodoo 5 5500 AGP = �216 > > Creative GeForce 2 GTS = �216 > > > > I'm trying to decide which one of these two to buy (before Friday) to > replace my aging VoodooII. > > Will GPL run ok with the GeForce2 + the new patch ? > > What's the general opinion, GeForce2 or Voodoo5 ? > > ta, > > Andy.

On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 08:14:32 GMT, "Wishkah" <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >HAHAHAHAHA Glide and GeForce HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA. If u wanna play GPL >the only card that will do the job is the Voodoo5, GeForce supports glide >just as well as it supports FSAA. There is a D3D patch for GPL now and it runs fine on a Geforce2. But, you are right about the FSAA. I had a Geforce2, but took it back for a V5. Glad I did because the Nvidia drivers are buggy crap. -- Nos

On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 08:14:32 GMT, "Wishkah" <[email hidden]> wrote: >HAHAHAHAHA Glide and GeForce HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA. If u wanna play GPL >the only card that will do the job is the Voodoo5, GeForce supports glide >just as well as it supports FSAA. WHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAA!!!!!! Andre (allways in the mood for a good laugh)

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> >Wishkah > >Andy Middleton <[email hidden]> wrote in message >8liave$ne4$[email hidden]... >> Simon Brown <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:sd%e5.17371$[email hidden]... >> > Voodoo 5 5500 AGP = �216 >> > Creative GeForce 2 GTS = �216 >> > >> >> I'm trying to decide which one of these two to buy (before Friday) to >> replace my aging VoodooII. >> >> Will GPL run ok with the GeForce2 + the new patch ? >> >> What's the general opinion, GeForce2 or Voodoo5 ? >> >> ta, >> >> Andy. > >

Just a small point, before I upgraded to a V5, my V3 was giving me better frame rates than I now get with the V5.

NOT TRUE!!! Running GPL with the new D3D patch and a GeForce-2 Kills the Voodoo-3500(glide), I tried both. I don't have a Voodoo-5 but we all know the GeForce-2 is faster anyway. Sal V. "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 08:14:32 GMT, "Wishkah" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >HAHAHAHAHA Glide and GeForce HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA. If u wanna playGPL

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> >the only card that will do the job is the Voodoo5, GeForce supports glide > >just as well as it supports FSAA. > > WHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAA!!!!!! > > Andre (allways in the mood for a good laugh) > > > > >Wishkah > > > >Andy Middleton <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >8liave$ne4$[email hidden]... > >> Simon Brown <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> news:sd%e5.17371$[email hidden]... > >> > Voodoo 5 5500 AGP = �216 > >> > Creative GeForce 2 GTS = �216 > >> > > >> > >> I'm trying to decide which one of these two to buy (before Friday) to > >> replace my aging VoodooII. > >> > >> Will GPL run ok with the GeForce2 + the new patch ? > >> > >> What's the general opinion, GeForce2 or Voodoo5 ? > >> > >> ta, > >> > >> Andy. > > > > >

I have both the V5 and Geforce 2 and I dont know that the GTS is faster...its faster in some games and slower in others. Sort of the way its been thru most of this competition between the cards. PAPA DOC

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> I don't have a Voodoo-5 but we all know >the GeForce-2 is faster anyway. > >Sal V. > >"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 08:14:32 GMT, "Wishkah" <[email hidden]> >> wrote: >> >> >HAHAHAHAHA Glide and GeForce HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA. If u wanna play >GPL >> >the only card that will do the job is the Voodoo5, GeForce supports glide >> >just as well as it supports FSAA. >> >> WHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAA!!!!!! >> >> Andre (allways in the mood for a good laugh) >> >> > >> >Wishkah >> > >> >Andy Middleton <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> >8liave$ne4$[email hidden]... >> >> Simon Brown <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> >> news:sd%e5.17371$[email hidden]... >> >> > Voodoo 5 5500 AGP = �216 >> >> > Creative GeForce 2 GTS = �216 >> >> > >> >> >> >> I'm trying to decide which one of these two to buy (before Friday) to >> >> replace my aging VoodooII. >> >> >> >> Will GPL run ok with the GeForce2 + the new patch ? >> >> >> >> What's the general opinion, GeForce2 or Voodoo5 ? >> >> >> >> ta, >> >> >> >> Andy. >> > >> > >> > >

On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:13:35 GMT, [email hidden] (Ruud van Gaal) wrote:

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>On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:04:05 +0100, "Humpty" <[email hidden]> >wrote: > >>Hmmm >> >>My GF2 plays GPL just perfectly with the D3D patch. 1024*768*36fps constant. >>Can't ask for better. > >Yup, no need for the V5 anymore, hehe. >I like NVidia better (although I have had a V1, V2 and now a Banshee),

[snip] I've finally decided. I've put in an order for the Hercules 3D Prophet II (nVIDIA GeForce2 GTS). It was a toss up between this, the Asus and the Creative GeForce2 GTS cards. In the end, I thought that I'd make use of the S-Video output from the Hercules. -- Kulvinder Singh Matharu E-mail : ksmatharu # ieee . org [without the spaces and where #=@] Website: http://www.matharu.demon.co.uk/ t.i.n.s.t.a.a.f.l.

Hmmm My GF2 plays GPL just perfectly with the D3D patch. 1024*768*36fps constant. Can't ask for better. "Wishkah" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:I%bf5.43846$[email hidden]...

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> HAHAHAHAHA Glide and GeForce HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA. If u wanna play GPL > the only card that will do the job is the Voodoo5, GeForce supports glide > just as well as it supports FSAA. > > Wishkah > > Andy Middleton <[email hidden]> wrote in message > 8liave$ne4$[email hidden]... > > Simon Brown <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:sd%e5.17371$[email hidden]... > > > Voodoo 5 5500 AGP = �216 > > > Creative GeForce 2 GTS = �216 > > > > > > > I'm trying to decide which one of these two to buy (before Friday) to > > replace my aging VoodooII. > > > > Will GPL run ok with the GeForce2 + the new patch ? > > > > What's the general opinion, GeForce2 or Voodoo5 ? > > > > ta, > > > > Andy. > >

On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:04:05 +0100, "Humpty" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Hmmm > >My GF2 plays GPL just perfectly with the D3D patch. 1024*768*36fps constant. >Can't ask for better. Yup, no need for the V5 anymore, hehe. I like NVidia better (although I have had a V1, V2 and now a Banshee), because it's OpenGL-targeted, and oh oh oh that's so much better than D3D and Glide. Hmm, let's explain that a little; D3D is obese and complex and quite sucks at targeting hardware implementations (doing your own rotation math, hah!). And Glide is ok, but still is bad because it is 3Dfx only, unless you use wrappers. Which is BAD DESIGN, I tell ya, VERY BAD DESIGN. Can't believe companies still are designing this kind of niche-targeted stuff. No future. Ruud van Gaal

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>"Wishkah" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:I%bf5.43846$[email hidden]... >> HAHAHAHAHA Glide and GeForce HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA. If u wanna play GPL >> the only card that will do the job is the Voodoo5, GeForce supports glide >> just as well as it supports FSAA. >> >> Wishkah >> >> Andy Middleton <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> 8liave$ne4$[email hidden]... >> > Simon Brown <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> > news:sd%e5.17371$[email hidden]... >> > > Voodoo 5 5500 AGP = �216 >> > > Creative GeForce 2 GTS = �216 >> > > >> > >> > I'm trying to decide which one of these two to buy (before Friday) to >> > replace my aging VoodooII. >> > >> > Will GPL run ok with the GeForce2 + the new patch ? >> > >> > What's the general opinion, GeForce2 or Voodoo5 ? >> > >> > ta, >> > >> > Andy. >> >> >

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On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:13:35 GMT, [email hidden] (Ruud van Gaal) thus spoke:

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>Yup, no need for the V5 anymore, hehe. >I like NVidia better (although I have had a V1, V2 and now a Banshee), >because it's OpenGL-targeted, and oh oh oh that's so much better than >D3D and Glide. Hmm, let's explain that a little; D3D is obese and >complex and quite sucks at targeting hardware implementations (doing >your own rotation math, hah!). And Glide is ok, but still is bad >because it is 3Dfx only, unless you use wrappers. Which is BAD DESIGN, >I tell ya, VERY BAD DESIGN. Can't believe companies still are >designing this kind of niche-targeted stuff. No future. > >Ruud van Gaal

So how many racing sims do you own that use OpenGL? I own four racing sims and many flight-sims that use glide. If you were me which video card would you buy? Don't answer that, it's a trick question. BTW, Voodoo can do OpenGL too if the need arises. But, as I look through my game collection I can't find one game that use OpenGL so it is a moot point at this moment in time. -- Nos

On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:37:44 GMT, [email hidden] wrote:

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>On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:13:35 GMT, [email hidden] (Ruud van Gaal) >thus spoke: > > >>Yup, no need for the V5 anymore, hehe. >>I like NVidia better (although I have had a V1, V2 and now a Banshee), >>because it's OpenGL-targeted, and oh oh oh that's so much better than >>D3D and Glide. Hmm, let's explain that a little; D3D is obese and >>complex and quite sucks at targeting hardware implementations (doing >>your own rotation math, hah!). And Glide is ok, but still is bad >>because it is 3Dfx only, unless you use wrappers. Which is BAD DESIGN, >>I tell ya, VERY BAD DESIGN. Can't believe companies still are >>designing this kind of niche-targeted stuff. No future. >> >>Ruud van Gaal > >So how many racing sims do you own that use OpenGL?

Ehm, 0?! What a shame. :) > I own four racing >sims and many flight-sims that use glide. If you were me which video >card would you buy? Don't answer that, it's a trick question. BTW, I would eh.. oh, I plead the 5th. ;-) >Voodoo can do OpenGL too if the need arises. But, as I look through my >game collection I can't find one game that use OpenGL so it is a moot >point at this moment in time. Quake3. ONLY OpenGL. And it's a killer app, fortunately for my case. ;-) But really, let time tell; in the longer run, just D3D and OpenGL will survive. They tried to mix it btw into Fahrenheit, until SGI stepped out. 2 different companies with very diverging philosophies. Glide is just too proprietary, and their cards are not as upfront as they used to be. Fortunately. Ruud van Gaal, GPL Rank +53.53 MarketGraph / MachTech: http://www.marketgraph.nl Art: http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery