gp3 ff

I am evaluating(cough splutter) a warez version of gp3 and have a Saitek R4 FF wheel , but I dont seem to be getting any tension or FF even though FF is enabled on the contoller setup screen ....any ideas! oz.

Your FF device needs to be controller ID 1, i.e. The first/top device listed in Control Panel/Game Controllers window. Hope this helps, Alan oz wrote: > > I am evaluating(cough splutter) a warez version of gp3 and have a Saitek R4 > FF wheel , but I dont seem to be getting any tension or FF even though FF is > enabled on the contoller setup screen ....any ideas! > oz.

"oz" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I am evaluating(cough splutter) a warez version of gp3 and have a Saitek R4 >FF wheel , but I dont seem to be getting any tension or FF even though FF is >enabled on the contoller setup screen ....any ideas! >oz. >I had this also. You need Map Y axis forces to X axis set in the control panel|game controlers|properties. At least this works with the full, legal, version Bob Mallett Remember: While the Arc was built by amateurs, it was professionals who built the Titanic - Richard Needham M.P. http://homepages.tesco.net/~bob.mallett

You can use the RBjoys program from http://www.rbsoft.de to map your shifter buttons It works great on my R4 Regards Mike On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 12:50:19 GMT, "Warren Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I concur. My legal copy of Grand Prix 3 that I bought yesterday has poor >support for the Saitek R4 Force Feedback steering wheel as follows: > >- 95% of all tension in the wheel disappears as soon as the game is loaded >(irrespective of what settings I try in the wheel's control panel). Tension >returns to the wheel once I exit the game; >- Force Feedback is so weak as to be almost non-existent; >- Cannot map x axis and y axis separately - they must be on the same axis; >- Cannot map button 5 or 6 (which are the two paddles behind the wheel) - >hence cannot use the paddles to change gears > >Very unfortunate for such a highly hyped / anticipated game. > >I can run all graphical options on at 1280*1024 around Melbourne at an >average of 70%-90% processor occupancy from within the driver's cockpit. >Serious slowdowns occur at every first corner, where processor occupancy can >go from anything from 120% - 250%. Once the first corner is cleared, >performance is good. > >My spec is a Pentium III 700 (not overclocked), Asus CUBX motherboard, 196Mb >RAM, 32Mb DDR GeForce 2 GTS > > > > >Warren Lee > > >"Bob Mallett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> "oz" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >I am evaluating(cough splutter) a warez version of gp3 and have a Saitek >R4 >> >FF wheel , but I dont seem to be getting any tension or FF even though FF >is >> >enabled on the contoller setup screen ....any ideas! >> >oz. >> > >> I had this also. You need Map Y axis forces to X axis set in the >> control panel|game controlers|properties. At least this works with >> the full, legal, version >> >> Bob Mallett >> >> Remember: While the Arc was built by amateurs, it was professionals >> who built the Titanic - Richard Needham M.P. >> http://homepages.tesco.net/~bob.mallett >

I'm sure all this does is add effects designed for the pedals, hence all the complaints of pulling one way or another. How do you simply get the wheel to return to centre. As you start GP3 it turns off the Win 98 force and never seems to replace it. Dean Bob Mallett <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "oz" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >I am evaluating(cough splutter) a warez version of gp3 and have a SaitekR4 > >FF wheel , but I dont seem to be getting any tension or FF even though FFis

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> >enabled on the contoller setup screen ....any ideas! > >oz. > > > I had this also. You need Map Y axis forces to X axis set in the > control panel|game controlers|properties. At least this works with > the full, legal, version > > Bob Mallett > > Remember: While the Arc was built by amateurs, it was professionals > who built the Titanic - Richard Needham M.P. > http://homepages.tesco.net/~bob.mallett

How do you see processor occupancy in the game???? "Warren Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:fqAg5.15427$[email hidden]... > I concur. My legal copy of Grand Prix 3 that I bought yesterday has poor > support for the Saitek R4 Force Feedback steering wheel as follows: > > - 95% of all tension in the wheel disappears as soon as the game is loaded > (irrespective of what settings I try in the wheel's control panel).Tension

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> returns to the wheel once I exit the game; > - Force Feedback is so weak as to be almost non-existent; > - Cannot map x axis and y axis separately - they must be on the same axis; > - Cannot map button 5 or 6 (which are the two paddles behind the wheel) - > hence cannot use the paddles to change gears > > Very unfortunate for such a highly hyped / anticipated game. > > I can run all graphical options on at 1280*1024 around Melbourne at an > average of 70%-90% processor occupancy from within the driver's cockpit. > Serious slowdowns occur at every first corner, where processor occupancy

can > go from anything from 120% - 250%. Once the first corner is cleared, > performance is good. > > My spec is a Pentium III 700 (not overclocked), Asus CUBX motherboard,196Mb

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> RAM, 32Mb DDR GeForce 2 GTS > > > > > Warren Lee > > > "Bob Mallett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > "oz" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >I am evaluating(cough splutter) a warez version of gp3 and have a

Saitek > R4 > > >FF wheel , but I dont seem to be getting any tension or FF even thoughFF

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> is > > >enabled on the contoller setup screen ....any ideas! > > >oz. > > > > > I had this also. You need Map Y axis forces to X axis set in the > > control panel|game controlers|properties. At least this works with > > the full, legal, version > > > > Bob Mallett > > > > Remember: While the Arc was built by amateurs, it was professionals > > who built the Titanic - Richard Needham M.P. > > http://homepages.tesco.net/~bob.mallett > >

To enable the return to center force, pause the game, unplug the power of the wheel, plug it in again and unpause the game. The drawback here is you get the default center force that is set in the wheel itself, not the one set in control panel. I see no way around this, as you need to suspend GP3 to go to control panel to get those settings, and GP3 will disable the center force again when go back to it :-( Fortunately you can make setup changes and such without having to unplug the wheel again. Bart Westra "Dean" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8lu5js$j1o$[email hidden]... > I'm sure all this does is add effects designed for the pedals, hence allthe > complaints of pulling one way or another. How do you simply get the wheelto

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> return to centre. As you start GP3 it turns off the Win 98 force and never > seems to replace it. > > Dean > > > > I had this also. You need Map Y axis forces to X axis set in the > > control panel|game controlers|properties. At least this works with > > the full, legal, version > > > > Bob Mallett

I concur. My legal copy of Grand Prix 3 that I bought yesterday has poor support for the Saitek R4 Force Feedback steering wheel as follows: - 95% of all tension in the wheel disappears as soon as the game is loaded (irrespective of what settings I try in the wheel's control panel). Tension returns to the wheel once I exit the game; - Force Feedback is so weak as to be almost non-existent; - Cannot map x axis and y axis separately - they must be on the same axis; - Cannot map button 5 or 6 (which are the two paddles behind the wheel) - hence cannot use the paddles to change gears Very unfortunate for such a highly hyped / anticipated game. I can run all graphical options on at 1280*1024 around Melbourne at an average of 70%-90% processor occupancy from within the driver's cockpit. Serious slowdowns occur at every first corner, where processor occupancy can go from anything from 120% - 250%. Once the first corner is cleared, performance is good. My spec is a Pentium III 700 (not overclocked), Asus CUBX motherboard, 196Mb RAM, 32Mb DDR GeForce 2 GTS Warren Lee "Bob Mallett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "oz" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >I am evaluating(cough splutter) a warez version of gp3 and have a SaitekR4 > >FF wheel , but I dont seem to be getting any tension or FF even though FFis

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> >enabled on the contoller setup screen ....any ideas! > >oz. > > > I had this also. You need Map Y axis forces to X axis set in the > control panel|game controlers|properties. At least this works with > the full, legal, version > > Bob Mallett > > Remember: While the Arc was built by amateurs, it was professionals > who built the Titanic - Richard Needham M.P. > http://homepages.tesco.net/~bob.mallett

On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 18:55:06 +0200, "Bart Westra" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>To enable the return to center force, pause the game, unplug the power of >the wheel, plug it in again and unpause the game. The drawback here is you >get the default center force that is set in the wheel itself, not the one >set in control panel. I see no way around this, as you need to suspend GP3 >to go to control panel to get those settings, and GP3 will disable the >center force again when go back to it :-( Fortunately you can make setup >changes and such without having to unplug the wheel again.

That's a great feature from Geoff there! ;-) I too, btw, have no working FF (except the Y->X pulling to one side) I wonder if Geoff ever played his own game. I really don't think he likes it anymore. >Bart WestraRuud van Gaal, GPL Rank +53.53 MarketGraph / MachTech: http://www.marketgraph.nl Art: http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery

Funny how FF works absolutely with my Ferrari FF wheel and GP3, (excepting the slight lag that I get with all games, including GPL) Alan Ruud van Gaal wrote:

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> > On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 18:55:06 +0200, "Bart Westra" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >To enable the return to center force, pause the game, unplug the power of > >the wheel, plug it in again and unpause the game. The drawback here is you > >get the default center force that is set in the wheel itself, not the one > >set in control panel. I see no way around this, as you need to suspend GP3 > >to go to control panel to get those settings, and GP3 will disable the > >center force again when go back to it :-( Fortunately you can make setup > >changes and such without having to unplug the wheel again. > > That's a great feature from Geoff there! ;-) > I too, btw, have no working FF (except the Y->X pulling to one side) > I wonder if Geoff ever played his own game. I really don't think he > likes it anymore. > > >Bart Westra > Ruud van Gaal, GPL Rank +53.53 > MarketGraph / MachTech: http://www.marketgraph.nl > Art: http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery