GPL: Banked Monza?

Is anyone here currently working on a version of the banked Monza track for GPL. I know there's been a lot of interest in it lately and was wondering if anyone has taken on the challenge? Cheers, ...Colin

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Cool the banked monza discussion again... With me too lazy to type it again, I'd like to refer to www.deja.com and search for "banked monza" posts. �artijn > >> >Is anyone here currently working on a version of the banked Monzatrack

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> >for > >> >GPL. > >> > >> Now there's an idea... David, Phil, Martijn, how about it? :) > > > > > >Yeah... wonder why no one thought of that before... guess there just > >isn't much interest ;-) > > > > What an incredible waste of time THAT would be... I mean, who wants to

drive > on a 10 mile(or whatever) track?

In article <[email hidden]>, Arne Martin <[email hidden]> writes:

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>Andre Warringa wrote: >> >> On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:06:00 -0400, "Colin" >> <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >Is anyone here currently working on a version of the banked Monza track >for >> >GPL. >> >> Now there's an idea... David, Phil, Martijn, how about it? :) > > >Yeah... wonder why no one thought of that before... guess there just >isn't much interest ;-) >

What an incredible waste of time THAT would be... I mean, who wants to drive on a 10 mile(or whatever) track? Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +69.95 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> > On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:06:00 -0400, "Colin" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Is anyone here currently working on a version of the banked Monza track for > >GPL. > > Now there's an idea... David, Phil, Martijn, how about it? :)

Yeah... wonder why no one thought of that before... guess there just isn't much interest ;-) -- Arne Martin

On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:06:00 -0400, "Colin" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Is anyone here currently working on a version of the banked Monza track for >GPL. >I know there's been a lot of interest in it lately and was wondering if >anyone has taken on the challenge? Now there's an idea... David, Phil, Martijn, how about it? :) Andre > >Cheers, >...Colin >

Hey, what a great idea ! </sarcasm> Phil Andre Warringa wrote:

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> > On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:06:00 -0400, "Colin" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Is anyone here currently working on a version of the banked Monza track for > >GPL. > >I know there's been a lot of interest in it lately and was wondering if > >anyone has taken on the challenge? > > Now there's an idea... David, Phil, Martijn, how about it? :) > > Andre > > > > >Cheers, > >...Colin > >

On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:06:00 -0400, "Colin" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Is anyone here currently working on a version of the banked Monza track for >GPL. >I know there's been a lot of interest in it lately and was wondering if >anyone has taken on the challenge? Nobody has, in fact nobody has ever even thought about it. It's really easy though, should happen in 15 minutes once somebody bothers to type the six lines of text to make it happen. I'm still waiting for somebody to realize this.

In article <[email hidden]>, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> writes

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>On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:06:00 -0400, "Colin" ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Is anyone here currently working on a version of the banked Monza track >for >>GPL. >>I know there's been a lot of interest in it lately and was wondering if >>anyone has taken on the challenge? > >Now there's an idea... David, Phil, Martijn, how about it? :) >

Has Monza got banking? -- Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) Remove ALL_STRESS before replying No person's opinions can be said to be more correct than another's, because each is the sole judge of his or her own experience.

Check this site out http://www.thebackstretch.net/ "Colin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8lng7l$pg6$[email hidden]... > Is anyone here currently working on a version of the banked Monza trackfor

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> GPL. > I know there's been a lot of interest in it lately and was wondering if > anyone has taken on the challenge? > > Cheers, > ...Colin > >

Jon Van Ginneken wrote:

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> huh? When you enter Curva Grande you are heading basically at 180d and > Parabolica's entrance is heading 0d. I'm guessing you mean CG/T1 of oval? > Or am I off on this (inside joke I don't know about? :-). > If that's what you meant it seems pretty simple....a nice wall blocking any > side switching; which would be wrong to even attempt to allow since in real > life they never switched sides they did a road course lap (staying to the > left at s/f) and then stayed to the right as they went to the oval. > > Again, I don't quite understand what you meant, but it's not that hard > IMO...especially if it's done by hand.

You know what would be even cooler? If you could just cross the straight and drive straight from Parabolica to Curva Grande, skipping the oval entirely! Wonder why no one thought of that track-configuration... :-) -- Arne Martin

There's a difference.... this one doesn't have _that_ many turns. ;-) Jan. =--- EldredP wrote... > <snip> > What an incredible waste of time THAT would be... I mean, who wants todrive > on a 10 mile(or whatever) track? > > Eldred

On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:18:30 GMT, [email hidden] (Toni Lassila) wrote:

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>On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:06:00 -0400, "Colin" <[email hidden]> wrote: >>Is anyone here currently working on a version of the banked Monza track for >>GPL. >>I know there's been a lot of interest in it lately and was wondering if >>anyone has taken on the challenge? > >Nobody has, in fact nobody has ever even thought about it. It's really easy >though, should happen in 15 minutes once somebody bothers to type the six lines >of text to make it happen.

At the GPL LAN party I had an interesting chat with Martijn (from Solitude) about this, and with someone else who is currently working on a banked Monza. It turns out to be not that simple. Is seems GPL has a problem at the point where you have to switch side, ie going straight on to the CG or entering the Parabolica. Andre >I'm still waiting for somebody to realize this.

"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:18:30 GMT, [email hidden] (Toni > Lassila) wrote: > > >On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:06:00 -0400, "Colin" <[email hidden]>wrote: > >>Is anyone here currently working on a version of the banked Monza trackfor > >>GPL. > >>I know there's been a lot of interest in it lately and was wondering if > >>anyone has taken on the challenge? > > > >Nobody has, in fact nobody has ever even thought about it. It's reallyeasy > >though, should happen in 15 minutes once somebody bothers to type the sixlines

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> >of text to make it happen. > > At the GPL LAN party I had an interesting chat with Martijn (from > Solitude) about this, and with someone else who is currently working > on a banked Monza. It turns out to be not that simple. > Is seems GPL has a problem at the point where you have to switch side, > ie going straight on to the CG or entering the Parabolica.

huh? When you enter Curva Grande you are heading basically at 180d and Parabolica's entrance is heading 0d. I'm guessing you mean CG/T1 of oval? Or am I off on this (inside joke I don't know about? :-). If that's what you meant it seems pretty simple....a nice wall blocking any side switching; which would be wrong to even attempt to allow since in real life they never switched sides they did a road course lap (staying to the left at s/f) and then stayed to the right as they went to the oval. Again, I don't quite understand what you meant, but it's not that hard IMO...especially if it's done by hand. Jon

On 27 Jul 2000 22:31:01 GMT, "�artijn" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Cool the banked monza discussion again... >With me too lazy to type it again, I'd like to refer to www.deja.com and >search for "banked monza" posts. Martijn... -smile- :) Andre

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> >�artijn > >> >> >Is anyone here currently working on a version of the banked Monza >track >> >for >> >> >GPL. >> >> >> >> Now there's an idea... David, Phil, Martijn, how about it? :) >> > >> > >> >Yeah... wonder why no one thought of that before... guess there just >> >isn't much interest ;-) >> > >> >> What an incredible waste of time THAT would be... I mean, who wants to >drive >> on a 10 mile(or whatever) track? > >

On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:07:40 +0100, Peter Ives <[email hidden]> wrote: >Has Monza got banking? Lol, anyway, it does -not- look like this: http://www.fortunecity.com/athena/empowerment/134/Track_Projects/Monza.jpg Scott still has some work too do :) Andre >Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) >Remove ALL_STRESS before replying > >No person's opinions can be said to be >more correct than another's, because each is >the sole judge of his or her own experience.

Martijn... -smile- :) Andre

Let's just say for crazyness that some has made a Monza Banked track like the one at this web site: http://www.ddavid.com/formula1/images/trk_monza.jpg Not the dark lines, but the track as it was. How in the ^&*% is GPL going to know what lap anyone is on? I mean how would it know I did not cheat and just run all ovals the whole time? I guess the same way it can tell if you cut a corner, but can this depend on where you exited last? In looking at the page above, the track that is in black there looks like fun. SLG Arne Martin <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Jon Van Ginneken wrote: >> huh? When you enter Curva Grande you are heading basically at 180d and >> Parabolica's entrance is heading 0d. I'm guessing you mean CG/T1 of oval? >> Or am I off on this (inside joke I don't know about? :-). >> If that's what you meant it seems pretty simple....a nice wall blocking any >> side switching; which would be wrong to even attempt to allow since in real >> life they never switched sides they did a road course lap (staying to the >> left at s/f) and then stayed to the right as they went to the oval. >> >> Again, I don't quite understand what you meant, but it's not that hard >> IMO...especially if it's done by hand. > > >You know what would be even cooler? If you could just cross the straight >and drive straight from Parabolica to Curva Grande, skipping the oval >entirely! Wonder why no one thought of that track-configuration... :-) > >-- >Arne Martin

(All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are due to too many English classes/teachers)

On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 16:00:24 GMT, [email hidden] (Steve Garrotto) wrote: >How in the ^&*% is GPL >going to know what lap anyone is on? I mean how would it know I did >not cheat and just run all ovals the whole time? I guess the same way >it can tell if you cut a corner, but can this depend on where you >exited last? If you treat that wide straight as two separate widths of track section with, perhaps, a high curb or low wall separating them, it would be impossible to cheat that way, so the game would not have to be concerned about it. That is, the left half is a separate section of track leading from the banking exit to the Curva Grande and the right half is another separate section of track leading from Parabolica to the entrance to the banked section. Between the two could be a wall, or armco, or a line of Snetterton's killer rabbits. (I know *those* would keep me honest! <g>) I don't believe this would be a problem with pit access because it doesn't really seem to me that the exit from the banking is far enough back to afford safe pit entry anyway. They'd have to have stopped almost dead and then crossed the exit to Parabolica at nearly a 90-degree angle to make pit in. I don't think the track officials would have approved of that sort of thing... Regards, Brett C. Cammack That's Racing! Motorsports Pompano Beach, FL