Re: My first impressions on GPL !!

Erwan, If you have skid marks turned on your frame rate will drop drastically every lap. I run on a P 233 ( no online racing ) and can keep the framerate up only by turning down detail and as many graphic options as possible. If you stick with it and tweak for consistent performance, you may become addicted like the rest of us! Jeff H Erwan <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:wJHf5.146$[email hidden]... > eh, eh, i finally buy this sim at budget price (around $13 ) because > of all of you who say every day that it's the best sim ever. > 3): A very boring stuff happened and i can't resolv it. > I have a PIII 450, 128 RAM and a ATI 16 Mo but when i race, in the startand > during the first lap, i have a frame rate number around 38-40 > fps but after 1 or 2 lap, it continuously decrease until to 10 fps andeven 5 > fprs !!!!!! Then, the game becomes unplayable. > If some1 had the same problem, please tell me how to fix this annoyingproblem. > >

eh, eh, i finally buy this sim at budget price (around $13 ) because of all of you who say every day that it's the best sim ever. I receive the game box from the mailman just after i finish my work and go home. I open the box, found a very big user manual with driving advices, very cool !! Then, i install the game, start it and..........the game was ugly. So i went in the "options menu", and unfortunately saw that my video card (ATI wasn't supported. But i remember that i saw in a web site some patches for GPL. I downloaded 2 patches: the 1.2 version of the game and the D3D exe. Ahhhhhh, the game now looks better because i can increase the resolution to 1280 X 1124. but i did 1024 X 768. Then, i choose a car, the Scuderia Ferrari (because of the beautiful steering wheel :-) and start a quick race, South Africa. After 5 laps for learn the game physics, i start the GP. Dammm, this car has no brakes or what ?!? It takes a very long distance to stop my car but i love this feeling. I think i wasn't not so bad because i was 5th on 6 after my first 3 laps but unfortunately the 6th and last car overtaked me in the corner 4 and, after i tried to re-overtake it in the next corner, i brake too late and do a 780 degree spin and crach my car into a wall !! This game is difficult but you have to be very concentrated to do a GP. A real sim...... But i have some critics: 1): only two camera views when we race. Why not the great "over helmet" view that i saw in the little replay screen in the menu ? 2): because the exterior view is so arcade and undrivable, i only race in ***pit view but we don't have any "numbers", like in exterior view, like speed, ........We can't know our actual speed, gear or lap time. For a sim, it's pretty weird, uh ? 3): A very boring stuff happened and i can't resolv it. I have a PIII 450, 128 RAM and a ATI 16 Mo but when i race, in the start and during the first lap, i have a frame rate number around 38-40 fps but after 1 or 2 lap, it continuously decrease until to 10 fps and even 5 fprs !!!!!! Then, the game becomes unplayable. If some1 had the same problem, please tell me how to fix this annoying problem.

eh, eh, i finally buy this sim at budget price (around $13 ) because of all of you who say every day that it's the best sim ever. I receive the game box from the mailman just after i finish my work and go home. I open the box, found a very big user manual with driving advices, very cool !! Then, i install the game, start it and..........the game was ugly. So i went in the "options menu", and unfortunately saw that my video card (ATI rage 128 @ 16Mo) wasn't supported. But i remember that i saw in a web site some patches for GPL. I downloaded 2 patches: the 1.2 version of the game and the D3D exe. Ahhhhhh, the game now looks better because i can increase the resolution to 1280 X 1124. but i did 1024 X 768. Then, i choose a car, the Scuderia Ferrari (because of the beautiful steering wheel :-) and start a quick race, South Africa. After 5 laps for learn the game physics, i start the GP. Dammm, this car has no brakes or what ?!? It takes a very long distance to stop my car but i love this feeling. I think i wasn't not so bad because i was 5th on 6 after my first 3 laps but unfortunately the 6th and last car overtaked me in the corner 4 and, after i tried to re-overtake it in the next corner, i brake too late and do a 780� degree spin and crach my car into a wall !! This game is difficult but you have to be very concentrated to do a GP. A real sim...... But i have some critics: 1): only two camera views when we race. Why not the great "over helmet" view that i saw in the little replay screen in the menu ? 2): because the exterior view is so arcade and undrivable, i only race in cockpit view but we don't have any "numbers", like in exterior view, like speed, ........We can't know our actual speed, gear or lap time. For a sim, it's pretty weird, uh ? 3): A very boring stuff happened and i can't resolv it. I have a PIII 450, 128 RAM and a ATI 16 Mo but when i race, in the start and during the first lap, i have a frame rate number around 38-40 fps but after 1 or 2 lap, it continuously decrease until to 10 fps and even 5 fprs !!!!!! Then, the game becomes unplayable. If some1 had the same problem, please tell me how to fix this annoying problem.

1. Open up your /players/Erwan/player.ini, find the [Personal Information] section, then change the "drivingView" setting to whatever you like. Go to http://www.kolumbus.fi/ghuttu/ and download Huttu's camera sets for more camera angles. 2. Go to http://members.home.net/jeffreyjh/gpl/gplgauges.html for info on the guages and also go to http://129.100.29.86/gpl/ and http://www.gplea.org/ for more readable guages. Also, in racing you don't need to know your speed to go fast, your gear is indicated by the gear shift lever to your right (or left if driving the BRM), and your lap times are indicated by the pit board you see at the end of each practice lap. Remember that each time will be a lap old by the time you see it (except at the N�rburgring) and that during races you should be more concerned with the gaps between yourself and your competitors rather than your times. Although, if you really must see your latest times just hit "F2" for an instant replay. 3. Don't know... -- ----------------------------------- Morgan Vincent Wooten GPLRank: +31.07 mailto:[email hidden] http://members.tripod.com/~morganv/ ----------------------------------- Erwan <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:wJHf5.146$[email hidden]... > eh, eh, i finally buy this sim at budget price (around $13 ) because > of all of you who say every day that it's the best sim ever. > I receive the game box from the mailman just after i finish my work and go home. > I open the box, found a very big user manual with driving advices, very cool !! > Then, i install the game, start it and..........the game was ugly. > So i went in the "options menu", and unfortunately saw that my video card (ATI > rage 128 @ 16Mo) > wasn't supported. > But i remember that i saw in a web site some patches for GPL. > I downloaded 2 patches: the 1.2 version of the game and the D3D exe. > Ahhhhhh, the game now looks better because i can increase the resolution to 1280 > X 1124. > but i did 1024 X 768. > Then, i choose a car, the Scuderia Ferrari (because of the beautiful steering > wheel :-) and start a quick race, > South Africa. After 5 laps for learn the game physics, i start the GP. > Dammm, this car has no brakes or what ?!? It takes a very long distance to stop > my car but i love this feeling. > I think i wasn't not so bad because i was 5th on 6 after my first 3 laps but > unfortunately the 6th and last car overtaked > me in the corner 4 and, after i tried to re-overtake it in the next corner, i > brake too late and do a 780� degree spin and > crach my car into a wall !! This game is difficult but you have to be very > concentrated to do a GP. A real sim...... > > But i have some critics: > 1): only two camera views when we race. Why not the great "over helmet" view > that i saw in the little replay screen in the menu ? > 2): because the exterior view is so arcade and undrivable, i only race in > cockpit view but we don't have any "numbers", like in exterior > view, like speed, ........We can't know our actual speed, gear or lap time. For > a sim, it's pretty weird, uh ? > 3): A very boring stuff happened and i can't resolv it. > I have a PIII 450, 128 RAM and a ATI 16 Mo but when i race, in the start and > during the first lap, i have a frame rate number around 38-40 > fps but after 1 or 2 lap, it continuously decrease until to 10 fps and even 5 > fprs !!!!!! Then, the game becomes unplayable. > If some1 had the same problem, please tell me how to fix this annoying problem. > >

Erwan wrote in message ... >2): because the exterior view is so arcade and undrivable, i only race in >cockpit view but we don't have any "numbers", like in exterior >view, like speed, ........We can't know our actual speed, gear or lap time.For >a sim, it's pretty weird, uh ? I believe most, if not all, 1967 cars lacked a speedometer. Drivers prefer the engine speed. You know the actual gear you're in by looking at the gearbox to your right (or left in a BRM, I think). Lap time is shown on the pit boards on the next lap (in training/practice mode). All these things aim for realism, and therefore it's not "pretty weird" for a sim. Pretty rare, maybe :) Bendito;

On Wed 26 Jul 2000 08:26:03pm, Erwan wrote: <snip> >I open the box, found a very big user manual with >driving advices, very cool !! <snip> It's very useful. A lot of references incomprehensible to non- Americans, though (has *anyone* in the UK heard of Alois Ruf???) >i love this feeling. Aha. Looks like we have another victim ;-) >I think i wasn't not so bad because i was 5th on 6 after my first 3 >laps but unfortunately the 6th and last car overtaked >me in the corner 4 and, after i tried to re-overtake it in the next >corner, i brake too late and do a 780� degree spin and >crach my car into a wall !!<snip> This "6th and last car". It wasn't white, was it? If so, it was one John Surtees, and the only sensible advice is "avoid! avoid!", especially at the Parabolica (last corner at Monza). >But i have some critics: >1): only two camera views when we race. Why not the great "over >helmet" view that i saw in the little replay screen in the menu ? There are ways to change this, and there are other views available (see elsewhere in this thread). But I think these are a little unfair, especially in online races. Stick with the cockpit view - you even get road noise! >2): because the exterior view is so arcade and undrivable, i only >race in cockpit view but we don't have any "numbers", like in >exterior view, like speed, ........We can't know our actual speed, >gear or lap time. For a sim, it's pretty weird, uh ? Nope. It's a sim. Whihc is to say, a simulation. So it does (more or less) what the real car did. And 1967 F1 cars don't have speedometers. In any case, you don't need it to drive - the rev counter is the main thing, and once you get good you'll make most of your decisions on the engine noise alone. <snip> >during the first lap, i have a frame rate number around 38-40 >fps but after 1 or 2 lap, it continuously decrease until to 10 fps<snip> I had this once, but only once, and I can't remember what was causing it. If all else fails, reinstall GPL. -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -2.05) "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

Erwan <[email hidden]> schrieb <snip> > But i have some critics: > 1): only two camera views when we race. Why not the great "over helmet"view > that i saw in the little replay screen in the menu ? There is some way to activate the rollbar view for driving, I'm sure somebody can tell you how, but if you want to go "real sim", stay in the cockpit. > 2): because the exterior view is so arcade and undrivable, i only race in > cockpit view but we don't have any "numbers", like in exterior > view, like speed, ........We can't know our actual speed, gear or laptime. For > a sim, it's pretty weird, uh ? Not weird, but realistic. '67 F1 cars didn't have speedometers, I don't even know if they have them now. But you don't need a speedometer, after some practice you will be able to tell your speed from the sound depending what gear your in, and if you want to analyze a lap, you have the speed in the replay. You can tell the gear you're in by looking on the H-shifter to the right, but with some practice you won't need this also, because you'll simply know what gear you're in. Note, that the lap time you're getting after completing a lap is the one from the previous lap (well, the guys need a lap to write it on the board :-)) > 3): A very boring stuff happened and i can't resolv it. > I have a PIII 450, 128 RAM and a ATI 16 Mo but when i race, in the startand > during the first lap, i have a frame rate number around 38-40 > fps but after 1 or 2 lap, it continuously decrease until to 10 fps andeven 5 > fprs !!!!!! Then, the game becomes unplayable. > If some1 had the same problem, please tell me how to fix this annoyingproblem. ??? Haven't heard of this one. The framerate is capped at 36, so the max readout should be 36-37. With your system you should be able to get a constant 36 except at the start, where it should drop to somewhere in the mid twenties, depending on resolution and detail setting. Do you have any background tasks running, like MS Office's FindFast? If so, kill them when playing GPL, I have no idea, what else could be the culprit for your dropping fps. Peter

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> eh, eh, i finally buy this sim at budget price (around $13 ) because > of all of you who say every day that it's the best sim ever. > I receive the game box from the mailman just after i finish my work and go home. > I open the box, found a very big user manual with driving advices, very cool !! > Then, i install the game, start it and..........the game was ugly. > So i went in the "options menu", and unfortunately saw that my video card (ATI > rage 128 @ 16Mo) > wasn't supported. > But i remember that i saw in a web site some patches for GPL. > I downloaded 2 patches: the 1.2 version of the game and the D3D exe. > Ahhhhhh, the game now looks better because i can increase the resolution to 1280 > X 1124. > but i did 1024 X 768. > Then, i choose a car, the Scuderia Ferrari (because of the beautiful steering > wheel :-) and start a quick race, > South Africa. After 5 laps for learn the game physics, i start the GP. > Dammm, this car has no brakes or what ?!? It takes a very long distance to stop > my car but i love this feeling. > I think i wasn't not so bad because i was 5th on 6 after my first 3 laps but > unfortunately the 6th and last car overtaked > me in the corner 4 and, after i tried to re-overtake it in the next corner, i > brake too late and do a 780� degree spin and > crach my car into a wall !! This game is difficult but you have to be very > concentrated to do a GP. A real sim...... > > But i have some critics: > 1): only two camera views when we race. Why not the great "over helmet" view > that i saw in the little replay screen in the menu ? > 2): because the exterior view is so arcade and undrivable, i only race in > cockpit view but we don't have any "numbers", like in exterior > view, like speed, ........We can't know our actual speed, gear or lap time. For > a sim, it's pretty weird, uh ? > 3): A very boring stuff happened and i can't resolv it. > I have a PIII 450, 128 RAM and a ATI 16 Mo but when i race, in the start and > during the first lap, i have a frame rate number around 38-40 > fps but after 1 or 2 lap, it continuously decrease until to 10 fps and even 5 > fprs !!!!!! Then, the game becomes unplayable. > If some1 had the same problem, please tell me how to fix this annoying problem. > > >

With your computer Gpl is going to run smooth in 800x600 IMHO. -- Greetings Johan N [email hidden]

Johan N <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message : [email hidden]... > In article <wJHf5.146$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > eh, eh, i finally buy this sim at budget price (around $13 ) because > > of all of you who say every day that it's the best sim ever. > > I receive the game box from the mailman just after i finish my work and gohome. > > I open the box, found a very big user manual with driving advices, very cool!! > > Then, i install the game, start it and..........the game was ugly. > > So i went in the "options menu", and unfortunately saw that my video card(ATI > > rage 128 @ 16Mo) > > wasn't supported. > > But i remember that i saw in a web site some patches for GPL. > > I downloaded 2 patches: the 1.2 version of the game and the D3D exe. > > Ahhhhhh, the game now looks better because i can increase the resolution to1280 > > X 1124. > > but i did 1024 X 768. > > Then, i choose a car, the Scuderia Ferrari (because of the beautifulsteering > > wheel :-) and start a quick race, > > South Africa. After 5 laps for learn the game physics, i start the GP. > > Dammm, this car has no brakes or what ?!? It takes a very long distance tostop > > my car but i love this feeling. > > I think i wasn't not so bad because i was 5th on 6 after my first 3 laps but > > unfortunately the 6th and last car overtaked > > me in the corner 4 and, after i tried to re-overtake it in the next corner,i

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> > brake too late and do a 780� degree spin and > > crach my car into a wall !! This game is difficult but you have to be very > > concentrated to do a GP. A real sim...... > > > > But i have some critics: > > 1): only two camera views when we race. Why not the great "over helmet" view > > that i saw in the little replay screen in the menu ? > > 2): because the exterior view is so arcade and undrivable, i only race in > > cockpit view but we don't have any "numbers", like in exterior > > view, like speed, ........We can't know our actual speed, gear or lap time.

For > > a sim, it's pretty weird, uh ? > > 3): A very boring stuff happened and i can't resolv it. > > I have a PIII 450, 128 RAM and a ATI 16 Mo but when i race, in the start and > > during the first lap, i have a frame rate number around 38-40 > > fps but after 1 or 2 lap, it continuously decrease until to 10 fps and even5 > > fprs !!!!!! Then, the game becomes unplayable. > > If some1 had the same problem, please tell me how to fix this annoyingproblem. > > > > > > > > With your computer Gpl is going to run smooth in 800x600 IMHO. But I try all resolutions (640X480, 800X600, 1024X768) and the problem is still the same. Every time, i have 38 fps at start and around 10 fps after 1 lap. Weird !! > -- > Greetings > > Johan N > > [email hidden]