Re: FFB or NOT???

I could neber go back to a non force feedback wheel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YUK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Skeeter <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I moved and was away from GPL for the whole of 1999.First thing I did > when I got a new PC was buy a LWFF since my other wheel was in another > state:( > > First thing I have noticed is that I felt more control of the car with > FFB (and still do)and have been driving with it for about 5 months > now.What suprises me is that I was faster with a non-forcefeedback > wheel.My best at Zandvoort was a 1:24:87 and I cant break a 1:26..now > > I was actually fastest with my old beat up Thrustmaster which I had a > super tight bungee on.My next wheel had a loose feel to it and I didnt > feel comfortable with it and was slower by a sec or two.I prefer a > real tight center notch in my wheel so I can physically feel when my > wheels are perfectly straight.This I believe helps me to feel when the > car starts to oversteer since I have to forcefully countersteer past > this center notch(signalling to me that the rears are coming around). > > Now I have been reading about all these top sim makers saying they > dont like FFB and rather use a nonFFB wheel???They say that the > hardware still isnt ready.should I go back to a nonFFB wheel????I > tried it with my LWFF but since it has no "feelable"center notch I was > lost.Whats everyone opinion on this FFB or not dilema I am having? > > Thanks for the replies.

I moved and was away from GPL for the whole of 1999.First thing I did when I got a new PC was buy a LWFF since my other wheel was in another state:( First thing I have noticed is that I felt more control of the car with FFB (and still do)and have been driving with it for about 5 months now.What suprises me is that I was faster with a non-forcefeedback wheel.My best at Zandvoort was a 1:24:87 and I cant break a 1:26..now I was actually fastest with my old beat up Thrustmaster which I had a super tight bungee on.My next wheel had a loose feel to it and I didnt feel comfortable with it and was slower by a sec or two.I prefer a real tight center notch in my wheel so I can physically feel when my wheels are perfectly straight.This I believe helps me to feel when the car starts to oversteer since I have to forcefully countersteer past this center notch(signalling to me that the rears are coming around). Now I have been reading about all these top sim makers saying they dont like FFB and rather use a nonFFB wheel???They say that the hardware still isnt ready.should I go back to a nonFFB wheel????I tried it with my LWFF but since it has no "feelable"center notch I was lost.Whats everyone opinion on this FFB or not dilema I am having? Thanks for the replies.

On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 06:17:35 -0500, "Ronnie Bigwhip" <[email hidden]> thus spoke:

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>> Now I have been reading about all these top sim makers saying they >> dont like FFB and rather use a nonFFB wheel???They say that the >> hardware still isnt ready.should I go back to a nonFFB wheel????I >> tried it with my LWFF but since it has no "feelable"center notch I was >> lost.Whats everyone opinion on this FFB or not dilema I am having? >> >> Thanks for the replies. > >

I've never used FFB and was looking into getting one, but after reading that article I'm now not so sure I want one. I have a MSPR USB wheel and it has the centre notch and quite good pedals so maybe I'm better off with what I have for now. Try the Microsoft Precision Racing Wheel from somewhere you can return it if you don't like it. That's probably the best way to deicide for yourself. -- Nos

Send my your LWFF and I will let you know! :-) SLG [email hidden] (Skeeter) wrote:

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>I moved and was away from GPL for the whole of 1999.First thing I did >when I got a new PC was buy a LWFF since my other wheel was in another >state:( > >First thing I have noticed is that I felt more control of the car with >FFB (and still do)and have been driving with it for about 5 months >now.What suprises me is that I was faster with a non-forcefeedback >wheel.My best at Zandvoort was a 1:24:87 and I cant break a 1:26..now > >I was actually fastest with my old beat up Thrustmaster which I had a >super tight bungee on.My next wheel had a loose feel to it and I didnt >feel comfortable with it and was slower by a sec or two.I prefer a >real tight center notch in my wheel so I can physically feel when my >wheels are perfectly straight.This I believe helps me to feel when the >car starts to oversteer since I have to forcefully countersteer past >this center notch(signalling to me that the rears are coming around). > >Now I have been reading about all these top sim makers saying they >dont like FFB and rather use a nonFFB wheel???They say that the >hardware still isnt ready.should I go back to a nonFFB wheel????I >tried it with my LWFF but since it has no "feelable"center notch I was >lost.Whats everyone opinion on this FFB or not dilema I am having? > >Thanks for the replies.

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Hi Dale, Gosh it seems the FF is SO subjective. This is my first time on this NewsGroup and I like the content thus far. If you like you can take a look at an article I wrote on my feelings on FF. http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/hardware/features/wheels/index2.shtml Regards, Victor DiCosola Contributing Editor www.simhq.com

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>First thing I have noticed is that I felt more control of the car with >FFB (and still do)and have been driving with it for about 5 months >now.What suprises me is that I was faster with a non-forcefeedback >wheel.My best at Zandvoort was a 1:24:87 and I cant break a 1:26..now > >I was actually fastest with my old beat up Thrustmaster which I had a >super tight bungee on.My next wheel had a loose feel to it and I didnt >feel comfortable with it and was slower by a sec or two.I prefer a >real tight center notch in my wheel so I can physically feel when my >wheels are perfectly straight.This I believe helps me to feel when the >car starts to oversteer since I have to forcefully countersteer past >this center notch(signalling to me that the rears are coming around). > >Now I have been reading about all these top sim makers saying they >dont like FFB and rather use a nonFFB wheel???They say that the >hardware still isnt ready.should I go back to a nonFFB wheel????I >tried it with my LWFF but since it has no "feelable"center notch I was >lost.Whats everyone opinion on this FFB or not dilema I am having? > >Thanks for the replies.

Thanks Guys for the advice.Victor I have read your article and found it very informative.It was one of the articles that made me write this post.The new R4 looks like a wheel I may have to try out.You said that it tightened up to a realistic tension and I was wondering if it could be tightened more then ten turns.I like a super stiff wheel that other people will say tires out their arms.Also does it have a strong center notch feel to it?Thanks for the info. On 29 Jul 2000 00:49:13 GMT, [email hidden] (CLUTCH24) wrote:

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>Hi Dale, > >Gosh it seems the FF is SO subjective. This is my first time on this NewsGroup >and I like the content thus far. If you like you can take a look at an article >I wrote on my feelings on FF. >http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/hardware/features/wheels/index2.shtml >Regards, > >Victor DiCosola >Contributing Editor >www.simhq.com > >>First thing I have noticed is that I felt more control of the car with >>FFB (and still do)and have been driving with it for about 5 months >>now.What suprises me is that I was faster with a non-forcefeedback >>wheel.My best at Zandvoort was a 1:24:87 and I cant break a 1:26..now >> >>I was actually fastest with my old beat up Thrustmaster which I had a >>super tight bungee on.My next wheel had a loose feel to it and I didnt >>feel comfortable with it and was slower by a sec or two.I prefer a >>real tight center notch in my wheel so I can physically feel when my >>wheels are perfectly straight.This I believe helps me to feel when the >>car starts to oversteer since I have to forcefully countersteer past >>this center notch(signalling to me that the rears are coming around). >> >>Now I have been reading about all these top sim makers saying they >>dont like FFB and rather use a nonFFB wheel???They say that the >>hardware still isnt ready.should I go back to a nonFFB wheel????I >>tried it with my LWFF but since it has no "feelable"center notch I was >>lost.Whats everyone opinion on this FFB or not dilema I am having? >> >>Thanks for the replies. > >