Mr Sim <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:Cmlg5.494759$k22.2191428@flipper...
> Comparison GP3 / F1 2000 / GPL, i like it if you copy this and addyour
> own opinion....
>
> Well I never played GPL, so maybe someone else can add his comments inhere
> concerning 'gpl'. Ofcourse it should be nice to copy this and give yourown
+
i know it might seem interesting now but this'll end in a big row if we
start....please don't
Comparison GP3 / F1 2000 / GPL, i like it if you copy this and add your
own opinion....
Well I never played GPL, so maybe someone else can add his comments in here
concerning 'gpl'. Ofcourse it should be nice to copy this and give your own
comments on a scale from + till +++++
I think you should use the word "realism" as a criterium !!
+ = bad +++++ = great
F1 2000 GP3
GPL
Physics + + + + + + + +
Graphics background + + + + + +
Graphics foreground + + + + + + +
Colors + + + + + + +
Gameplay + + + + + + + +
Car behaviour (sim) + + + + + + +
Framerate + + + + + + +
Cockpitview + + + + + +
Carsound + + + + +
Sound other cars + + + Nothing
Carshape + + + + + + +
AI behaviour + + + + + +
Force feedback + + + + + +
Track reality + + + + + + +
Review performance Nothing + + + + +
Internet play + + + Nothing
Lan / ipx / .. Dunno Dunno
Pitlane crew/objects + + + + + +
Weather(rain) Nothing + + + + +
Radio traffic + + + + Nothing
Laptime reality + + + + + Dunno yet
Playability on
'recommended PC' + + + + + +
Performance on:
P3 500, 128mb,
TNT2 M64 + + + + + + + +
> i know it might seem interesting now but this'll end in a big row if we
> start....please don't
Isnt that what a newsgroup is about? Inform each other...
Think, this is a good way to let others see what the different opinions are.
So the overall results, makes it a bit more objective !! Always nice isnt
it?
On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 16:22:17 +0100, "Douglas Ellison"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
Somebody else noticed
I find it unbelievable that GP3 is getting all this criticism and
being compared to a game that when released THE AI COULD NOT GET
AROUND 3 OF THE BLOODY TRACKS AAAAARRRGGGGHHHHHH
Regards Mike>
>>
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>> -GP3 has better AI out of the box, but both games feature way too many >> crashes > >GP3 hasn't been to bad, I've found. If there are crashes, they tend to be my >fault. F12000 AI is utterly moronic. How it could be released with AI cars >being unable to driver round a damn track without falling off is a greater >sin than anything GP3 has failed to do.
Simon Brown <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:TSpg5.1606$[email hidden]...
> I agree with some of those scores, but in my opinion-
>
> -f1 2000 has less accurate circuits
VERY true
> -you've scored both games too high for physics, but the ratio is aboutright
A matter of taste more than anything.
> -the colours in GP3 more closely match the real sport
True
> -the pitcrew in both games look terrible
TOO true
> -the engine note is way too high in both games
The egine note in both games is about right. 12 - 16,000 rpm doesn't tend
to sound like GPL! Take a listen to in-car footage at this weekends German
GP (Pedro de la Rossa's car has one that's fed into the normal (non-digital)
feed)
> -laptime reality isn't there in either game
True
> -f1 2000 needs either patching, or half the details turned off to get
> acceptable frame rates
VERY VERY VERY True.
..
> -GP3 has better AI out of the box, but both games feature way too many
> crashes
GP3 hasn't been to bad, I've found. If there are crashes, they tend to be my
fault. F12000 AI is utterly moronic. How it could be released with AI cars
being unable to driver round a damn track without falling off is a greater
sin than anything GP3 has failed to do.
>
> I don't think it's worth putting my GPL scores here, but needless to sayit
> would be ahead of both games in quite a few areas. It's all just opinions
> though... :)
Of course, just opinions.
Doug
+
> +
> > Gameplay + + + + + + ++
> > Car behaviour (sim) + + + + + + +
> > Framerate + + + + + ++
Nothing
> > Lan / ipx / .. Dunno Dunno
> > Pitlane crew/objects + + + + + +
> > Weather(rain) Nothing + + + + +
> > Radio traffic + + + +Nothing
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> "Mr Sim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Cmlg5.494759$k22.2191428@flipper... > > Comparison GP3 / F1 2000 / GPL, i like it if you copy this and add > your > > own opinion.... > > > > Well I never played GPL, so maybe someone else can add his comments in > here > > concerning 'gpl'. Ofcourse it should be nice to copy this and give your > own > > comments on a scale from + till +++++ > > > > I think you should use the word "realism" as a criterium !! > > > > + = bad +++++ = great > > > > > > F1 2000 GP3 > > GPL > > Physics + + + + + + + + > > Graphics background + + + + + + > > Graphics foreground + + + + + + + > > Colors + + + + +Quoted text (9 lines)
> > Cockpitview + + + + + + > > Carsound + + + + + > > Sound other cars + + + Nothing > > Carshape + + + + + + + > > AI behaviour + + + + + + > > Force feedback + + + + + + > > Track reality + + + + + + + > > Review performance Nothing + + + + + > > Internet play + + +Quoted text (15 lines)
> > Laptime reality + + + + + Dunno yet > > > > Playability on > > 'recommended PC' + + + + + + > > > > Performance on: > > P3 500, 128mb, > > TNT2 M64 + + + + + + + + > > > > > > > > > > > >I agree with some of those scores, but in my opinion-
-f1 2000 has less accurate circuits
-you've scored both games too high for physics, but the ratio is about right
-the colours in GP3 more closely match the real sport
-the pitcrew in both games look terrible
-the engine note is way too high in both games
-laptime reality isn't there in either game
-f1 2000 needs either patching, or half the details turned off to get
acceptable frame rates
-GP3 has better AI out of the box, but both games feature way too many
crashes
I don't think it's worth putting my GPL scores here, but needless to say it
would be ahead of both games in quite a few areas. It's all just opinions
though... :)
"Mr Sim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:Cmlg5.494759$k22.2191428@flipper...
> Comparison GP3 / F1 2000 / GPL, i like it if you copy this and addyour
> own opinion....
>
> Well I never played GPL, so maybe someone else can add his comments inhere
> concerning 'gpl'. Ofcourse it should be nice to copy this and give yourown
+
Quoted text (13 lines)
> comments on a scale from + till +++++ > > I think you should use the word "realism" as a criterium !! > > + = bad +++++ = great > > > F1 2000 GP3 > GPL > Physics + + + + + + + + > Graphics background + + + + + + > Graphics foreground + + + + + + + > Colors + + + + + +Quoted text (29 lines)
> Gameplay + + + + + + + + > Car behaviour (sim) + + + + + + + > Framerate + + + + + + + > Cockpitview + + + + + + > Carsound + + + + + > Sound other cars + + + Nothing > Carshape + + + + + + + > AI behaviour + + + + + + > Force feedback + + + + + + > Track reality + + + + + + + > Review performance Nothing + + + + + > Internet play + + + Nothing > Lan / ipx / .. Dunno Dunno > Pitlane crew/objects + + + + + + > Weather(rain) Nothing + + + + + > Radio traffic + + + + Nothing > Laptime reality + + + + + Dunno yet > > Playability on > 'recommended PC' + + + + + + > > Performance on: > P3 500, 128mb, > TNT2 M64 + + + + + + + + > > > > >Glad to hear you agree generally. Just on the engine note, ex-F1 driver
Martin Brundle now works on UK tv channel ITV commentating on F1, and he
once commented that he was surprised at how high-pitched the car engines
sounded from the on-board cameras. He said that from inside the cockpit
with the helmet on the engine sound was actually quite deep. I suppose the
padding in the helmet could be working as a filter.
Anyway, that's what I was basing that comment on. :)
"Douglas Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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(non-digital)
my
> fault. F12000 AI is utterly moronic. How it could be released with AIcars
opinions
add
> > your
> > > own opinion....
> > >
> > > Well I never played GPL, so maybe someone else can add his comments in
> > here
> > > concerning 'gpl'. Ofcourse it should be nice to copy this and giveyour
GP3
> > > GPL
> > > Physics + + + + + + ++
> > > Graphics background + + + + + +
> > > Graphics foreground + + + + + + +
> > > Colors + + + ++
> +
> > +
> > > Gameplay + + + + + ++
> +
> > > Car behaviour (sim) + + + + + + +
> > > Framerate + + + + ++
+
> > > Track reality + + + + + ++
> > > Review performance Nothing + + + + +
> > > Internet play + + +
> Nothing
> > > Lan / ipx / .. DunnoDunno
> > > Pitlane crew/objects + + + + + +
> > > Weather(rain) Nothing + + + ++
> > > Radio traffic + + + +
> Nothing
> > > Laptime reality + + + + + Dunnoyet
