Re: Geoff, a perfectionnist ? (part 2)

So you didn't like the game then? ::)) In article <ZYGg5.542$[email hidden]>, "Erwan" <[email hidden]> wrote: > I just bought the game today. I was so excited by this game. > The wait was too long. > So, I install the game and.............the problems start. > First, the menus are uggly with this awful orange. > The calibration of my MS gamepad took me 30 minutes, yes 30 minutes. > It's the only game which has a such weird way of calibrate thecontrollers. > I had no problems with all my others games (MGPRS2, CMR, RC 2000,F1WGP, > F1 2000, etc.......). If someone has a MS Gamepad, please send meyour file. > > Then, the first time i play a race, it was awful. > The wheel in the car was all black !! A big annoying bug. > Geoff was a real piece of shit. The cameras views are awful. Only oneis quite > good, > the cockpit view. The exterior view is awful and we can't ajust thezoom like F1 > 2000. > And why Geoff insert some unplayables cameras views (with "page up")instead of > insert a "over helmet T view" or more exterior and cockpits views ? > > The graphics suck. I tried all resolutions, even at 1280X1024, theysuck. They > are out of date. > If the game was released in 1997 or 1998, ok fine. But we are in2000 !!!!!! > > About the data numbers while racing: > A lot of numbers are mising in F1 2000 while racing (speed, lap time,etc......) > It is, IMHO, It was > sad for me. But i didn't believe my eyes when i saw that Geoff, THE > perfectionnist for a lot of guys, > didn't includes any numbers in the screen. > All the F1 game have now the official licence, so why don't use it ? > Even MGPRS2, without licence, include the "official timing" featureswith the > real times sponsored > by Siemens or Tag Heuer. It was a key feature for realism. > But F1 2000 and GP3 don't include that. Shame on them. They want tobe sim ? > They look like arcade games.... > > I AM VERY ANGRY with Geoff Cramond. He took 4 YEARS to do this ?!?!?! > The game is a really piece of crap. > I bought F1 2000 in order to wait for GP3 in march, but finally thisgame is 10X > better than this stupid GP3. > GP3 is just GP2 with (a very little) better graphics and rain. That'sall. > Some of you think F1WGP is shit..Are you kidding me ? This game is100X time > better than GP3. > The graphics are very good, they are a tons of very good cockpit andexterior > views. It's finally with this game that > i will play until the release of CMR2 and WSC. > > Ohhhhhh, it's like a nightmare. I wait for GP3 since a lot of months > and........I will don't play at it for the moment. > Maybe after a few weeks when some cool guys will make some great 3rdparty > stuffs. > > I regret to don't have try the warez. You know what ? Because i wouldsave $50. > With my 56kbits modem, it would take me a month to download the warez(120 Mo). > If i had a DSL, i wouldn't buy this crap. > > GO TO HELL, GEOFF CRAMOND. WHY DON'T YOU RELEASE A DEMO, UH ? BECAUSEYOUR GAME > SUCKS............ > I hope you read this NG and see how a lot of us think how crap isyour stupid > game. the West Brothers read this NG in order > to have suggestions for their futur cool WSC. I guess you don't. > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

I just bought the game today. I was so e***d by this game. The wait was too long. So, I install the game and.............the problems start. First, the menus are uggly with this awful orange. The calibration of my MS gamepad took me 30 minutes, yes 30 minutes. It's the only game which has a such weird way of calibrate the controllers. I had no problems with all my others games (MGPRS2, CMR, RC 2000, F1WGP, F1 2000, etc.......). If someone has a MS Gamepad, please send me your file. Then, the first time i play a race, it was awful. The wheel in the car was all black !! A big annoying bug. Geoff was a real piece of shit. The cameras views are awful. Only one is quite good, the***pit view. The exterior view is awful and we can't ajust the zoom like F1 2000. And why Geoff insert some unplayables cameras views (with "page up") instead of insert a "over helmet T view" or more exterior and***pits views ? The graphics suck. I tried all resolutions, even at 1280X1024, they suck. They are out of date. If the game was released in 1997 or 1998, ok fine. But we are in 2000 !!!!!! About the data numbers while racing: A lot of numbers are mising in F1 2000 while racing (speed, lap time, etc......) It is, IMHO, It was sad for me. But i didn't believe my eyes when i saw that Geoff, THE perfectionnist for a lot of guys, didn't includes any numbers in the screen. All the F1 game have now the official licence, so why don't use it ? Even MGPRS2, without licence, include the "official timing" features with the real times sponsored by Siemens or Tag Heuer. It was a key feature for realism. But F1 2000 and GP3 don't include that. Shame on them. They want to be sim ? They look like arcade games.... I AM VERY ANGRY with Geoff Cramond. He took 4 YEARS to do this ?!?!?! The game is a really piece of crap. I bought F1 2000 in order to wait for GP3 in march, but finally this game is 10X better than this stupid GP3. GP3 is just GP2 with (a very little) better graphics and rain. That's all. Some of you think F1WGP is shit..Are you kidding me ? This game is 100X time better than GP3. The graphics are very good, they are a tons of very good***pit and exterior views. It's finally with this game that i will play until the release of CMR2 and WSC. Ohhhhhh, it's like a nightmare. I wait for GP3 since a lot of months and........I will don't play at it for the moment. Maybe after a few weeks when some cool guys will make some great 3rd party stuffs. I regret to don't have try the warez. You know what ? Because i would save $50. With my 56kbits modem, it would take me a month to download the warez (120 Mo). If i had a DSL, i wouldn't buy this crap. GO TO HELL, GEOFF CRAMOND. WHY DON'T YOU RELEASE A DEMO, UH ? BECAUSE YOUR GAME SUCKS............ I hope you read this NG and see how a lot of us think how ***is your stupid game. the West Brothers read this NG in order to have suggestions for their futur cool WSC. I guess you don't.

So you didn't like the game then? ::)) Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Lighten up on the caffeine :>)) Snake.

Erwan wrote: > > I just bought the game today. I was so excited by this game. > The wait was too long. Yes it was. > So, I install the game and.............the problems start. > First, the menus are uggly with this awful orange. > The calibration of my MS gamepad took me 30 minutes, yes 30 minutes. > It's the only game which has a such weird way of calibrate the controllers. > I had no problems with all my others games (MGPRS2, CMR, RC 2000, F1WGP, > F1 2000, etc.......). If someone has a MS Gamepad, please send me your file. Funny. Looks like the calibration routine is not... how they say it? "Idiot proof" after all.

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> Then, the first time i play a race, it was awful. > The wheel in the car was all black !! A big annoying bug. > Geoff was a real piece of shit. The cameras views are awful. Only one is quite > good, > the cockpit view. The exterior view is awful and we can't ajust the zoom like F1 > 2000. > And why Geoff insert some unplayables cameras views (with "page up") instead of > insert a "over helmet T view" or more exterior and cockpits views ?

a) It's a sim. You don't get anything but a cockpit view in real life. b) You can adjust the zoom. > The graphics suck. I tried all resolutions, even at 1280X1024, they suck. They > are out of date. > If the game was released in 1997 or 1998, ok fine. But we are in 2000 !!!!!! Technically, they could be a lot better. Aestethically, they're the best in F1 sims.

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> About the data numbers while racing: > A lot of numbers are mising in F1 2000 while racing (speed, lap time, etc......) > It is, IMHO, It was > sad for me. But i didn't believe my eyes when i saw that Geoff, THE > perfectionnist for a lot of guys, > didn't includes any numbers in the screen. > All the F1 game have now the official licence, so why don't use it ? > Even MGPRS2, without licence, include the "official timing" features with the > real times sponsored > by Siemens or Tag Heuer. It was a key feature for realism. > But F1 2000 and GP3 don't include that. Shame on them. They want to be sim ? > They look like arcade games....

You don't get "onscreen" displays of times etc in a real F1 car. All you get is the pit board info each lap. So what's the crap about "arcade"? You know, the drivers in real life do not see the thing we see on telly. > I AM VERY ANGRY with Geoff Cramond. He took 4 YEARS to do this ?!?!?! > The game is a really piece of crap. > I bought F1 2000 in order to wait for GP3 in march, but finally this game is 10X > better than this stupid GP3. > GP3 is just GP2 with (a very little) better graphics and rain. That's all. If you really are any kind of F1 enthusiast, you'll learn to accept the dynamic weather as a superb tactical challenge. > Some of you think F1WGP is shit..Are you kidding me ? This game is 100X time > better than GP3. > The graphics are very good, they are a tons of very good cockpit and exterior > views. It's finally with this game that > i will play until the release of CMR2 and WSC. What's this shit about exterior views? I thought you wanted a sim, not an arcade game. And the in-helmet view, while an amusing idea, is worthless. > GO TO HELL, GEOFF CRAMOND. WHY DON'T YOU RELEASE A DEMO, UH ? BECAUSE YOUR GAME > SUCKS............ Geoff has very little to do with Hasbro marketing. > I hope you read this NG and see how a lot of us think how crap is your stupid > game. the West Brothers read this NG in order > to have suggestions for their futur cool WSC. I guess you don't. Agreed. Either Geoff should have listened a bit more carefully to the simmers and/or F1 fans. Or if he did, Hasbro should have listened to Geoff. Little things (actual stop and go penals, safety cars) ARE important and would have been easy to work into the game. But: no. Despite 4 years of various wishlists for GP3. -lark-

Lighten up on the caffeine :>)) Snake. > > >GO TO HELL, GEOFF CRAMOND. WHY DON'T YOU RELEASE A DEMO, UH ? BECAUSE YOURGAME >SUCKS............ >I hope you read this NG and see how a lot of us think how crap is yourstupid >game. the West Brothers read this NG in order >to have suggestions for their futur cool WSC. I guess you don't. > >

I just bought the game today. I was so excited by this game. The wait was too long. So, I install the game and.............the problems start. First, the menus are uggly with this awful orange. The calibration of my MS gamepad took me 30 minutes, yes 30 minutes. It's the only game which has a such weird way of calibrate the controllers. I had no problems with all my others games (MGPRS2, CMR, RC 2000, F1WGP, F1 2000, etc.......). If someone has a MS Gamepad, please send me your file. Then, the first time i play a race, it was awful. The wheel in the car was all black !! A big annoying bug. Geoff was a real piece of shit. The cameras views are awful. Only one is quite good, the cockpit view. The exterior view is awful and we can't ajust the zoom like F1 2000. And why Geoff insert some unplayables cameras views (with "page up") instead of insert a "over helmet T view" or more exterior and cockpits views ? The graphics suck. I tried all resolutions, even at 1280X1024, they suck. They are out of date. If the game was released in 1997 or 1998, ok fine. But we are in 2000 !!!!!! About the data numbers while racing: A lot of numbers are mising in F1 2000 while racing (speed, lap time, etc......) It is, IMHO, It was sad for me. But i didn't believe my eyes when i saw that Geoff, THE perfectionnist for a lot of guys, didn't includes any numbers in the screen. All the F1 game have now the official licence, so why don't use it ? Even MGPRS2, without licence, include the "official timing" features with the real times sponsored by Siemens or Tag Heuer. It was a key feature for realism. But F1 2000 and GP3 don't include that. Shame on them. They want to be sim ? They look like arcade games.... I AM VERY ANGRY with Geoff Cramond. He took 4 YEARS to do this ?!?!?! The game is a really piece of crap. I bought F1 2000 in order to wait for GP3 in march, but finally this game is 10X better than this stupid GP3. GP3 is just GP2 with (a very little) better graphics and rain. That's all. Some of you think F1WGP is shit..Are you kidding me ? This game is 100X time better than GP3. The graphics are very good, they are a tons of very good cockpit and exterior views. It's finally with this game that i will play until the release of CMR2 and WSC. Ohhhhhh, it's like a nightmare. I wait for GP3 since a lot of months and........I will don't play at it for the moment. Maybe after a few weeks when some cool guys will make some great 3rd party stuffs. I regret to don't have try the warez. You know what ? Because i would save $50. With my 56kbits modem, it would take me a month to download the warez (120 Mo). If i had a DSL, i wouldn't buy this crap. GO TO HELL, GEOFF CRAMOND. WHY DON'T YOU RELEASE A DEMO, UH ? BECAUSE YOUR GAME SUCKS............ I hope you read this NG and see how a lot of us think how crap is your stupid game. the West Brothers read this NG in order to have suggestions for their futur cool WSC. I guess you don't.

Hahahaha!!! Gamepad!!! Oh dear oh dear... rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:56:27 +0200, "Erwan" <[email hidden]>wrote:

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> > >I just bought the game today. I was so excited by this game. > >The wait was too long. > > O.K. > > >So, I install the game and.............the problems start. > > Like... ? > > >First, the menus are uggly with this awful orange. > > Give us a break please? > > >The calibration of my MS gamepad took me 30 minutes, yes 30 minutes. > > Your g-g-gamepad? > > >It's the only game which has a such weird way of calibrate the

controllers. > >I had no problems with all my others games (MGPRS2, CMR, RC 2000, F1WGP, > >F1 2000, etc.......). If someone has a MS Gamepad, please send me yourfile.

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> > > > LOL. > > >Then, the first time i play a race, it was awful. > >The wheel in the car was all black !! A big annoying bug. > > My wheel is fine (beautiful). What type of video card do you have? > Drivers? DX version? CPU speed? RAM? > > >Geoff was a real piece of shit. The cameras views are awful. Only one is

quite > >good, > >the cockpit view. The exterior view is awful and we can't ajust the zoomlike F1 > >2000. > > So you drive it like an arcade racer? > Oops, I forgot about the gamepad. > > >And why Geoff insert some unplayables cameras views (with "page up")instead of > >insert a "over helmet T view" or more exterior and cockpits views ? > > > > I guess you've lost me. Do you want to drive from the suspension view, or? > > >The graphics suck. I tried all resolutions, even at 1280X1024, they suck.They > >are out of date. > > I disagree, but then again, your wheel is black and ugly, so.. > > >If the game was released in 1997 or 1998, ok fine. But we are in 2000!!!!!! > > > > Congrats! > > >About the data numbers while racing: > >A lot of numbers are mising in F1 2000 while racing (speed, lap time,etc......)

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> > I guess he spent more time making the cockpit the best. > Maybe he didn't have time for all the arcade options. > > >It is, IMHO, It was > >sad for me. But i didn't believe my eyes when i saw that Geoff, THE > >perfectionnist for a lot of guys, > >didn't includes any numbers in the screen. > > Numbers? > > >All the F1 game have now the official licence, so why don't use it ? > > He did. > > >Even MGPRS2, without licence, include the "official timing" features with

the > >real times sponsored > >by Siemens or Tag Heuer. It was a key feature for realism. > > So you want the word 'Siemens' on the screen, or.. ? > > >But F1 2000 and GP3 don't include that. Shame on them. They want to besim ?

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> >They look like arcade games.... > > > > Those 2 sims are hard to drive with that gamepad, huh.. ? > > >I AM VERY ANGRY with Geoff Cramond. He took 4 YEARS to do this ?!?!?! > >The game is a really piece of crap. > > Return it. Be happy. > > >I bought F1 2000 in order to wait for GP3 in march, but finally this game

is 10X > >better than this stupid GP3. > > Then, go drive F1-2000. I will drive both. > > >GP3 is just GP2 with (a very little) better graphics and rain. That'sall. > >Some of you think F1WGP is shit..Are you kidding me ? This game is 100Xtime > >better than GP3. > > LOL. Does F1WGP have better gamepad support, or.. ? > > >The graphics are very good, they are a tons of very good cockpit andexterior

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> >views. It's finally with this game that > >i will play until the release of CMR2 and WSC. > > > > O.K. Let us know when you drive WSC with that g-gamepad. > > >Ohhhhhh, it's like a nightmare. I wait for GP3 since a lot of months > >and........I will don't play at it for the moment. > >Maybe after a few weeks when some cool guys will make some great 3rd

party > >stuffs. > > > > Just return it, if you don't like it. > > >GO TO HELL, GEOFF CRAMOND. WHY DON'T YOU RELEASE A DEMO, UH ? BECAUSEYOUR GAME > >SUCKS............ > > LOL. > > >I hope you read this NG and see how a lot of us think how crap is yourstupid

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> >game. the West Brothers read this NG in order > >to have suggestions for their futur cool WSC. I guess you don't. > > > > Let us know how it goes with WSC and your g-gamepad. > > I'm laughing man, I really am. >

Nice one Rrevved, had me sniggering . Snake. rrevved wrote in message ... >On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:56:27 +0200, "Erwan" <[email hidden]>wrote:

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> >>I just bought the game today. I was so excited by this game. >>The wait was too long. > >O.K. > >>So, I install the game and.............the problems start. > >Like... ? > >>First, the menus are uggly with this awful orange. > >Give us a break please? > >>The calibration of my MS gamepad took me 30 minutes, yes 30 minutes. > >Your g-g-gamepad? > >>It's the only game which has a such weird way of calibrate the

controllers. >>I had no problems with all my others games (MGPRS2, CMR, RC 2000, F1WGP, >>F1 2000, etc.......). If someone has a MS Gamepad, please send me yourfile.

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>> > >LOL. > >>Then, the first time i play a race, it was awful. >>The wheel in the car was all black !! A big annoying bug. > >My wheel is fine (beautiful). What type of video card do you have? >Drivers? DX version? CPU speed? RAM? > >>Geoff was a real piece of shit. The cameras views are awful. Only one is

quite >>good, >>the cockpit view. The exterior view is awful and we can't ajust the zoomlike F1 >>2000. > >So you drive it like an arcade racer? >Oops, I forgot about the gamepad. > >>And why Geoff insert some unplayables cameras views (with "page up")instead of >>insert a "over helmet T view" or more exterior and cockpits views ? >> > >I guess you've lost me. Do you want to drive from the suspension view, or? > >>The graphics suck. I tried all resolutions, even at 1280X1024, they suck.They >>are out of date. > >I disagree, but then again, your wheel is black and ugly, so.. > >>If the game was released in 1997 or 1998, ok fine. But we are in 2000!!!!!! >> > >Congrats! > >>About the data numbers while racing: >>A lot of numbers are mising in F1 2000 while racing (speed, lap time,etc......)

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> >I guess he spent more time making the cockpit the best. >Maybe he didn't have time for all the arcade options. > >>It is, IMHO, It was >>sad for me. But i didn't believe my eyes when i saw that Geoff, THE >>perfectionnist for a lot of guys, >>didn't includes any numbers in the screen. > >Numbers? > >>All the F1 game have now the official licence, so why don't use it ? > >He did. > >>Even MGPRS2, without licence, include the "official timing" features with

the >>real times sponsored >>by Siemens or Tag Heuer. It was a key feature for realism. > >So you want the word 'Siemens' on the screen, or.. ? > >>But F1 2000 and GP3 don't include that. Shame on them. They want to be sim?

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>>They look like arcade games.... >> > >Those 2 sims are hard to drive with that gamepad, huh.. ? > >>I AM VERY ANGRY with Geoff Cramond. He took 4 YEARS to do this ?!?!?! >>The game is a really piece of crap. > >Return it. Be happy. > >>I bought F1 2000 in order to wait for GP3 in march, but finally this game

is 10X >>better than this stupid GP3. > >Then, go drive F1-2000. I will drive both. > >>GP3 is just GP2 with (a very little) better graphics and rain. That's all. >>Some of you think F1WGP is shit..Are you kidding me ? This game is 100Xtime >>better than GP3. > >LOL. Does F1WGP have better gamepad support, or.. ? > >>The graphics are very good, they are a tons of very good cockpit andexterior

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>>views. It's finally with this game that >>i will play until the release of CMR2 and WSC. >> > >O.K. Let us know when you drive WSC with that g-gamepad. > >>Ohhhhhh, it's like a nightmare. I wait for GP3 since a lot of months >>and........I will don't play at it for the moment. >>Maybe after a few weeks when some cool guys will make some great 3rd party >>stuffs. >> > >Just return it, if you don't like it. > >>GO TO HELL, GEOFF CRAMOND. WHY DON'T YOU RELEASE A DEMO, UH ? BECAUSE YOUR

GAME >>SUCKS............ > >LOL. > >>I hope you read this NG and see how a lot of us think how crap is yourstupid

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>>game. the West Brothers read this NG in order >>to have suggestions for their futur cool WSC. I guess you don't. >> > >Let us know how it goes with WSC and your g-gamepad. > >I'm laughing man, I really am. >

On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 16:02:08 -0500, rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote: >>First, the menus are uggly with this awful orange. >Give us a break please? An ugly menu is an ugly menu - if you can't get that right...? >>The calibration of my MS gamepad took me 30 minutes, yes 30 minutes. >Your g-g-gamepad? GP3 is designed to be played with everything down to the keyboard, coincidentally enough very like F1GP and GP2... >So you drive it like an arcade racer? >Oops, I forgot about the gamepad. Everyone drives it like an arcade racer, there's no choice. I've got a noisy pot so the car flicks to the left every now and again, throwing me onto the grass and into a violent spin. No probs in GP3, if I instantly mash the brakes the car just straightens itself back up instantly and I carry on my merry way with nary a second lost. >>The graphics suck. I tried all resolutions, even at 1280X1024, they suck. They >>are out of date. >I disagree, but then again, your wheel is black and ugly, so.. They don't "suck", but they're far from what they could, and should, be. >>GP3 is just GP2 with (a very little) better graphics and rain. That's all. >>Some of you think F1WGP is shit..Are you kidding me ? This game is 100X time >>better than GP3. > >LOL. Does F1WGP have better gamepad support, or.. ? So you think GP3 _isn't_ GP2 with better graphics and rain? Looks _very_ like it.... >I'm laughing man, I really am. You shouldn't be. The weather is incredible, the game we've seen four years ago, and for much of it all the way back to F1GP. Overall the weather brings it up to "okay", but no more than that. Cheers! John

In article <ZYGg5.542$[email hidden]>, "Erwan" <[email hidden]> wrote: > GP3 is just GP2 with (a very little) better graphics and rain. That'sall. So essentially you mean GP2 was crap - but then, how could you know, it didn't work with your MS gamepad either...;) --Tel Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

> > the cockpit view. The exterior view is awful and we can't ajust the zoomlike F1 > > 2000. > > And why Geoff insert some unplayables cameras views (with "page up")instead of > > insert a "over helmet T view" or more exterior and cockpits views ? > > a) It's a sim. You don't get anything but a cockpit view in real life. > > b) You can adjust the zoom. > Doesn't work on my system either, at least not with arrow up/down like the manual sais :-(( Zolli

I agree. I think this game would be much better if there were more tunnels, jumps, checkpoints and maybe some police cars chasing you. Also, i can't seem to get the car horn to work with my g-g-gamepad. And they haven't even spelt Damian Hill's name write....

Yes, but tell us how you really feel about Gp3. Erwan wrote:

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> I just bought the game today. I was so excited by this game. > The wait was too long. > So, I install the game and.............the problems start. > First, the menus are uggly with this awful orange. > The calibration of my MS gamepad took me 30 minutes, yes 30 minutes. > It's the only game which has a such weird way of calibrate the controllers. > I had no problems with all my others games (MGPRS2, CMR, RC 2000, F1WGP, > F1 2000, etc.......). If someone has a MS Gamepad, please send me your file. > > Then, the first time i play a race, it was awful. > The wheel in the car was all black !! A big annoying bug. > Geoff was a real piece of shit. The cameras views are awful. Only one is quite > good, > the cockpit view. The exterior view is awful and we can't ajust the zoom like F1 > 2000. > And why Geoff insert some unplayables cameras views (with "page up") instead of > insert a "over helmet T view" or more exterior and cockpits views ? > > The graphics suck. I tried all resolutions, even at 1280X1024, they suck. They > are out of date. > If the game was released in 1997 or 1998, ok fine. But we are in 2000 !!!!!! > > About the data numbers while racing: > A lot of numbers are mising in F1 2000 while racing (speed, lap time, etc......) > It is, IMHO, It was > sad for me. But i didn't believe my eyes when i saw that Geoff, THE > perfectionnist for a lot of guys, > didn't includes any numbers in the screen. > All the F1 game have now the official licence, so why don't use it ? > Even MGPRS2, without licence, include the "official timing" features with the > real times sponsored > by Siemens or Tag Heuer. It was a key feature for realism. > But F1 2000 and GP3 don't include that. Shame on them. They want to be sim ? > They look like arcade games.... > > I AM VERY ANGRY with Geoff Cramond. He took 4 YEARS to do this ?!?!?! > The game is a really piece of crap. > I bought F1 2000 in order to wait for GP3 in march, but finally this game is 10X > better than this stupid GP3. > GP3 is just GP2 with (a very little) better graphics and rain. That's all. > Some of you think F1WGP is shit..Are you kidding me ? This game is 100X time > better than GP3. > The graphics are very good, they are a tons of very good cockpit and exterior > views. It's finally with this game that > i will play until the release of CMR2 and WSC. > > Ohhhhhh, it's like a nightmare. I wait for GP3 since a lot of months > and........I will don't play at it for the moment. > Maybe after a few weeks when some cool guys will make some great 3rd party > stuffs. > > I regret to don't have try the warez. You know what ? Because i would save $50. > With my 56kbits modem, it would take me a month to download the warez (120 Mo). > If i had a DSL, i wouldn't buy this crap. > > GO TO HELL, GEOFF CRAMOND. WHY DON'T YOU RELEASE A DEMO, UH ? BECAUSE YOUR GAME > SUCKS............ > I hope you read this NG and see how a lot of us think how crap is your stupid > game. the West Brothers read this NG in order > to have suggestions for their futur cool WSC. I guess you don't.

Zolli wrote: > > b) You can adjust the zoom. > > > > Doesn't work on my system either, at least not with arrow up/down like the > manual sais :-(( Oh... sorry. My review copy didn't have a manual :-) I just fooled around with the graphic options menu. So, I don't know of any way to adjust zoom while driving. And didn't know you were supposed to either. -lark-

On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 16:02:08 -0500, rrevved >>First, the menus are uggly with this awful orange. >Give us a break please? An ugly menu is an ugly menu - if you can't get that right...? GP3 is designed to be played with everything down to the keyboard, coincidentally enough very like F1GP and GP2... Everyone drives it like an arcade racer, there's no choice. I've got a noisy pot so the car flicks to the left every now and again, throwing me onto the grass and into a *** spin. No probs in GP3, if I instantly mash the brakes the car just straightens itself back up instantly and I carry on my merry way with nary a second lost. They don't "suck", but they're far from what they could, and should, be. So you think GP3 _isn't_ GP2 with better graphics and rain? Looks _very_ like it.... You shouldn't be. The weather is incredible, the game we've seen four years ago, and for much of it all the way back to F1GP. Overall the weather brings it up to "okay", but no more than that. Cheers! John

all. So essentially you mean GP2 was ***- but then, how could you know, it didn't work with your MS gamepad either...;) --Tel Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

rrevved wrote: > > On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:56:27 +0200, "Erwan" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >The calibration of my MS gamepad took me 30 minutes, yes 30 minutes. <SNIP> > >Geoff was a real piece of shit. The cameras views are awful. Only one is quite > >good, > >the cockpit view. The exterior view is awful and we can't ajust the zoom like F1 > >2000. <SNIP> > >But F1 2000 and GP3 don't include that. Shame on them. They want to be sim ? > >They look like arcade games.... <SNIP> > Let us know how it goes with WSC and your g-gamepad. > > I'm laughing man, I really am. ROTFLMAO!!!!! Has the nerve to bitch about something being Arcade, yet wants a HUD on an exterior view controlled with a g-g-gamepad. This one *kills* me! -- Chuck Kandler Windows is just a virus with a GUI

Please stop with my gamepad. I ordered a MS FFSW that i will receive next tuesday. Do you just see how are display the messages durin the race, like "Schumacher is out" or "you did the best lap" ? It's like my old Amiga of 1990. Geoff, a perfectionnist ? Are you kidding me ? I will do better than him for the stuffs like that. rrevved <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message : [email hidden]... > On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:56:27 +0200, "Erwan" <[email hidden]>wrote:

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quite > >good, > >the cockpit view. The exterior view is awful and we can't ajust the zoom likeF1 > >2000. > > So you drive it like an arcade racer? > Oops, I forgot about the gamepad. > > >And why Geoff insert some unplayables cameras views (with "page up") insteadof > >insert a "over helmet T view" or more exterior and cockpits views ? > > > > I guess you've lost me. Do you want to drive from the suspension view, or? > > >The graphics suck. I tried all resolutions, even at 1280X1024, they suck.They

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> > I guess he spent more time making the cockpit the best. > Maybe he didn't have time for all the arcade options. > > >It is, IMHO, It was > >sad for me. But i didn't believe my eyes when i saw that Geoff, THE > >perfectionnist for a lot of guys, > >didn't includes any numbers in the screen. > > Numbers? > > >All the F1 game have now the official licence, so why don't use it ? > > He did. > > >Even MGPRS2, without licence, include the "official timing" features with the > >real times sponsored > >by Siemens or Tag Heuer. It was a key feature for realism. > > So you want the word 'Siemens' on the screen, or.. ? > > >But F1 2000 and GP3 don't include that. Shame on them. They want to be sim ? > >They look like arcade games.... > > > > Those 2 sims are hard to drive with that gamepad, huh.. ? > > >I AM VERY ANGRY with Geoff Cramond. He took 4 YEARS to do this ?!?!?! > >The game is a really piece of crap. > > Return it. Be happy. > > >I bought F1 2000 in order to wait for GP3 in march, but finally this game is

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> >better than this stupid GP3. > > Then, go drive F1-2000. I will drive both. > > >GP3 is just GP2 with (a very little) better graphics and rain. That's all. > >Some of you think F1WGP is shit..Are you kidding me ? This game is 100X time > >better than GP3. > > LOL. Does F1WGP have better gamepad support, or.. ? > > >The graphics are very good, they are a tons of very good cockpit and exterior > >views. It's finally with this game that > >i will play until the release of CMR2 and WSC. > > > > O.K. Let us know when you drive WSC with that g-gamepad. > > >Ohhhhhh, it's like a nightmare. I wait for GP3 since a lot of months > >and........I will don't play at it for the moment. > >Maybe after a few weeks when some cool guys will make some great 3rd party > >stuffs. > > > > Just return it, if you don't like it. > > >GO TO HELL, GEOFF CRAMOND. WHY DON'T YOU RELEASE A DEMO, UH ? BECAUSE YOUR

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> >SUCKS............ > > LOL. > > >I hope you read this NG and see how a lot of us think how crap is your stupid > >game. the West Brothers read this NG in order > >to have suggestions for their futur cool WSC. I guess you don't. > > > > Let us know how it goes with WSC and your g-gamepad. > > I'm laughing man, I really am. >

<[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message : 8lvgj1$sc6$[email hidden]... > So you didn't like the game then? ::)) You're a genius :-)

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> > In article <ZYGg5.542$[email hidden]>, > "Erwan" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > I just bought the game today. I was so excited by this game. > > The wait was too long. > > So, I install the game and.............the problems start. > > First, the menus are uggly with this awful orange. > > The calibration of my MS gamepad took me 30 minutes, yes 30 minutes. > > It's the only game which has a such weird way of calibrate the > controllers. > > I had no problems with all my others games (MGPRS2, CMR, RC 2000, > F1WGP, > > F1 2000, etc.......). If someone has a MS Gamepad, please send me > your file. > > > > Then, the first time i play a race, it was awful. > > The wheel in the car was all black !! A big annoying bug. > > Geoff was a real piece of shit. The cameras views are awful. Only one > is quite > > good, > > the cockpit view. The exterior view is awful and we can't ajust the > zoom like F1 > > 2000. > > And why Geoff insert some unplayables cameras views (with "page up") > instead of > > insert a "over helmet T view" or more exterior and cockpits views ? > > > > The graphics suck. I tried all resolutions, even at 1280X1024, they > suck. They > > are out of date. > > If the game was released in 1997 or 1998, ok fine. But we are in > 2000 !!!!!! > > > > About the data numbers while racing: > > A lot of numbers are mising in F1 2000 while racing (speed, lap time, > etc......) > > It is, IMHO, It was > > sad for me. But i didn't believe my eyes when i saw that Geoff, THE > > perfectionnist for a lot of guys, > > didn't includes any numbers in the screen. > > All the F1 game have now the official licence, so why don't use it ? > > Even MGPRS2, without licence, include the "official timing" features > with the > > real times sponsored > > by Siemens or Tag Heuer. It was a key feature for realism. > > But F1 2000 and GP3 don't include that. Shame on them. They want to > be sim ? > > They look like arcade games.... > > > > I AM VERY ANGRY with Geoff Cramond. He took 4 YEARS to do this ?!?!?! > > The game is a really piece of crap. > > I bought F1 2000 in order to wait for GP3 in march, but finally this > game is 10X > > better than this stupid GP3. > > GP3 is just GP2 with (a very little) better graphics and rain. That's > all. > > Some of you think F1WGP is shit..Are you kidding me ? This game is > 100X time > > better than GP3. > > The graphics are very good, they are a tons of very good cockpit and > exterior > > views. It's finally with this game that > > i will play until the release of CMR2 and WSC. > > > > Ohhhhhh, it's like a nightmare. I wait for GP3 since a lot of months > > and........I will don't play at it for the moment. > > Maybe after a few weeks when some cool guys will make some great 3rd > party > > stuffs. > > > > I regret to don't have try the warez. You know what ? Because i would > save $50. > > With my 56kbits modem, it would take me a month to download the warez > (120 Mo). > > If i had a DSL, i wouldn't buy this crap. > > > > GO TO HELL, GEOFF CRAMOND. WHY DON'T YOU RELEASE A DEMO, UH ? BECAUSE > YOUR GAME > > SUCKS............ > > I hope you read this NG and see how a lot of us think how crap is > your stupid > > game. the West Brothers read this NG in order > > to have suggestions for their futur cool WSC. I guess you don't. > > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

GP3, a sim ?!?!? Are you kidding me ? GPL is a sim but GP3 is not more "sim" than F1 2000 or MGRS2. It's just an arcade game. So, for an arcade game, it should include great stuff like official timing or a lot of great cameras views like F1 2000 or F1WGP. rrevved <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message : [email hidden]... > On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:56:27 +0200, "Erwan" <[email hidden]>wrote:

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> > >I just bought the game today. I was so excited by this game. > >The wait was too long. > > O.K. > > >So, I install the game and.............the problems start. > > Like... ? > > >First, the menus are uggly with this awful orange. > > Give us a break please? > > >The calibration of my MS gamepad took me 30 minutes, yes 30 minutes. > > Your g-g-gamepad? > > >It's the only game which has a such weird way of calibrate the controllers. > >I had no problems with all my others games (MGPRS2, CMR, RC 2000, F1WGP, > >F1 2000, etc.......). If someone has a MS Gamepad, please send me your file. > > > > LOL. > > >Then, the first time i play a race, it was awful. > >The wheel in the car was all black !! A big annoying bug. > > My wheel is fine (beautiful). What type of video card do you have? > Drivers? DX version? CPU speed? RAM? > > >Geoff was a real piece of shit. The cameras views are awful. Only one is

quite > >good, > >the cockpit view. The exterior view is awful and we can't ajust the zoom likeF1 > >2000. > > So you drive it like an arcade racer? > Oops, I forgot about the gamepad. > > >And why Geoff insert some unplayables cameras views (with "page up") insteadof > >insert a "over helmet T view" or more exterior and cockpits views ? > > > > I guess you've lost me. Do you want to drive from the suspension view, or? > > >The graphics suck. I tried all resolutions, even at 1280X1024, they suck.They

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> >are out of date. > > I disagree, but then again, your wheel is black and ugly, so.. > > >If the game was released in 1997 or 1998, ok fine. But we are in 2000 !!!!!! > > > > Congrats! > > >About the data numbers while racing: > >A lot of numbers are mising in F1 2000 while racing (speed, lap time,

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> > I guess he spent more time making the cockpit the best. > Maybe he didn't have time for all the arcade options. > > >It is, IMHO, It was > >sad for me. But i didn't believe my eyes when i saw that Geoff, THE > >perfectionnist for a lot of guys, > >didn't includes any numbers in the screen. > > Numbers? > > >All the F1 game have now the official licence, so why don't use it ? > > He did. > > >Even MGPRS2, without licence, include the "official timing" features with the > >real times sponsored > >by Siemens or Tag Heuer. It was a key feature for realism. > > So you want the word 'Siemens' on the screen, or.. ? > > >But F1 2000 and GP3 don't include that. Shame on them. They want to be sim ? > >They look like arcade games.... > > > > Those 2 sims are hard to drive with that gamepad, huh.. ? > > >I AM VERY ANGRY with Geoff Cramond. He took 4 YEARS to do this ?!?!?! > >The game is a really piece of crap. > > Return it. Be happy. > > >I bought F1 2000 in order to wait for GP3 in march, but finally this game is

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> >better than this stupid GP3. > > Then, go drive F1-2000. I will drive both. > > >GP3 is just GP2 with (a very little) better graphics and rain. That's all. > >Some of you think F1WGP is shit..Are you kidding me ? This game is 100X time > >better than GP3. > > LOL. Does F1WGP have better gamepad support, or.. ? > > >The graphics are very good, they are a tons of very good cockpit and exterior > >views. It's finally with this game that > >i will play until the release of CMR2 and WSC. > > > > O.K. Let us know when you drive WSC with that g-gamepad. > > >Ohhhhhh, it's like a nightmare. I wait for GP3 since a lot of months > >and........I will don't play at it for the moment. > >Maybe after a few weeks when some cool guys will make some great 3rd party > >stuffs. > > > > Just return it, if you don't like it. > > >GO TO HELL, GEOFF CRAMOND. WHY DON'T YOU RELEASE A DEMO, UH ? BECAUSE YOUR

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> >SUCKS............ > > LOL. > > >I hope you read this NG and see how a lot of us think how crap is your stupid > >game. the West Brothers read this NG in order > >to have suggestions for their futur cool WSC. I guess you don't. > > > > Let us know how it goes with WSC and your g-gamepad. > > I'm laughing man, I really am. >

Just for you know: it's my bigger disapointment for a game in my 10 years video games experience. I'm really angry vs this stupid Geoff. rrevved <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message : [email hidden]... > On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:56:27 +0200, "Erwan" <[email hidden]>wrote:

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> > >I just bought the game today. I was so excited by this game. > >The wait was too long. > > O.K. > > >So, I install the game and.............the problems start. > > Like... ? > > >First, the menus are uggly with this awful orange. > > Give us a break please? > > >The calibration of my MS gamepad took me 30 minutes, yes 30 minutes. > > Your g-g-gamepad? > > >It's the only game which has a such weird way of calibrate the controllers. > >I had no problems with all my others games (MGPRS2, CMR, RC 2000, F1WGP, > >F1 2000, etc.......). If someone has a MS Gamepad, please send me your file. > > > > LOL. > > >Then, the first time i play a race, it was awful. > >The wheel in the car was all black !! A big annoying bug. > > My wheel is fine (beautiful). What type of video card do you have? > Drivers? DX version? CPU speed? RAM? > > >Geoff was a real piece of shit. The cameras views are awful. Only one is

quite > >good, > >the cockpit view. The exterior view is awful and we can't ajust the zoom likeF1 > >2000. > > So you drive it like an arcade racer? > Oops, I forgot about the gamepad. > > >And why Geoff insert some unplayables cameras views (with "page up") insteadof > >insert a "over helmet T view" or more exterior and cockpits views ? > > > > I guess you've lost me. Do you want to drive from the suspension view, or? > > >The graphics suck. I tried all resolutions, even at 1280X1024, they suck.They

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> >are out of date. > > I disagree, but then again, your wheel is black and ugly, so.. > > >If the game was released in 1997 or 1998, ok fine. But we are in 2000 !!!!!! > > > > Congrats! > > >About the data numbers while racing: > >A lot of numbers are mising in F1 2000 while racing (speed, lap time,

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> > I guess he spent more time making the cockpit the best. > Maybe he didn't have time for all the arcade options. > > >It is, IMHO, It was > >sad for me. But i didn't believe my eyes when i saw that Geoff, THE > >perfectionnist for a lot of guys, > >didn't includes any numbers in the screen. > > Numbers? > > >All the F1 game have now the official licence, so why don't use it ? > > He did. > > >Even MGPRS2, without licence, include the "official timing" features with the > >real times sponsored > >by Siemens or Tag Heuer. It was a key feature for realism. > > So you want the word 'Siemens' on the screen, or.. ? > > >But F1 2000 and GP3 don't include that. Shame on them. They want to be sim ? > >They look like arcade games.... > > > > Those 2 sims are hard to drive with that gamepad, huh.. ? > > >I AM VERY ANGRY with Geoff Cramond. He took 4 YEARS to do this ?!?!?! > >The game is a really piece of crap. > > Return it. Be happy. > > >I bought F1 2000 in order to wait for GP3 in march, but finally this game is

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> >better than this stupid GP3. > > Then, go drive F1-2000. I will drive both. > > >GP3 is just GP2 with (a very little) better graphics and rain. That's all. > >Some of you think F1WGP is shit..Are you kidding me ? This game is 100X time > >better than GP3. > > LOL. Does F1WGP have better gamepad support, or.. ? > > >The graphics are very good, they are a tons of very good cockpit and exterior > >views. It's finally with this game that > >i will play until the release of CMR2 and WSC. > > > > O.K. Let us know when you drive WSC with that g-gamepad. > > >Ohhhhhh, it's like a nightmare. I wait for GP3 since a lot of months > >and........I will don't play at it for the moment. > >Maybe after a few weeks when some cool guys will make some great 3rd party > >stuffs. > > > > Just return it, if you don't like it. > > >GO TO HELL, GEOFF CRAMOND. WHY DON'T YOU RELEASE A DEMO, UH ? BECAUSE YOUR

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> >SUCKS............ > > LOL. > > >I hope you read this NG and see how a lot of us think how crap is your stupid > >game. the West Brothers read this NG in order > >to have suggestions for their futur cool WSC. I guess you don't. > > > > Let us know how it goes with WSC and your g-gamepad. > > I'm laughing man, I really am. >

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>Please stop with my gamepad. >I ordered a MS FFSW that i will receive next tuesday. > >Do you just see how are display the messages durin the race, >like "Schumacher is out" or "you did the best lap" ? >It's like my old Amiga of 1990. >Geoff, a perfectionnist ? Are you kidding me ? >I will do better than him for the stuffs like that.

It may be the language barrier, but I have NO idea what your point is in this message... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +59.33 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Hey, this game is as arcade as the game you mentionned here (NFS). When we lost a rear or a front wing, we do the same time as with it, pretty weird, uh ?? And when people don't have money to buy a 180$ FFSW, do you have a matter with that ?!? I'm not Bill Gates. Doggopolony <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message : [email hidden]...

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> I agree. I think this game would be much better if there were more tunnels, > jumps, checkpoints and maybe some police cars chasing you. > > Also, i can't seem to get the car horn to work with my g-g-gamepad. > > And they haven't even spelt Damian Hill's name write.... > >

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>I aid: >Do you see the "on screen" messages that appears sometimes in yellow fonts, >like "Driver X is out" or "you did the best lap". >It's awful. It's like my old Amiga of the 1990's. >Geoof can't coding well. He is idiot. > >EldredP <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message : >[email hidden]... >> In article <Ja1h5.730$[email hidden]>, "Erwan" >> <[email hidden]> writes: >> >> >Please stop with my gamepad. >> >I ordered a MS FFSW that i will receive next tuesday. >> > >> >Do you just see how are display the messages durin the race, >> >like "Schumacher is out" or "you did the best lap" ? >> >It's like my old Amiga of 1990. >> >Geoff, a perfectionnist ? Are you kidding me ? >> >I will do better than him for the stuffs like that. >> >> It may be the language barrier, but I have NO idea what your point is in >this >> message...

Ok, I understood it THAT time<g>. Can't answer your question, though. Sorry. Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +52.52 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I aid: Do you see the "on screen" messages that appears sometimes in yellow fonts, like "Driver X is out" or "you did the best lap". It's awful. It's like my old Amiga of the 1990's. Geoof can't coding well. He is idiot. EldredP <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message : [email hidden]...

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> In article <Ja1h5.730$[email hidden]>, "Erwan" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Please stop with my gamepad. > >I ordered a MS FFSW that i will receive next tuesday. > > > >Do you just see how are display the messages durin the race, > >like "Schumacher is out" or "you did the best lap" ? > >It's like my old Amiga of 1990. > >Geoff, a perfectionnist ? Are you kidding me ? > >I will do better than him for the stuffs like that. > > It may be the language barrier, but I have NO idea what your point is in this > message... > > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +59.33 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.