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Re: GPL vs GP3 vs Others survey.

14 posts by 11 people · 29 Jul 2000 - 03 Aug 2000 23:37 UTC

Interesting analogy with Flanker 1.5. Umm, I can see why you may not wish to compare GPL with either F1-2000 or GP3, because its from a different era. Prehaps. But they way I look at it, the realism of a sim can be judged to a certain extent by how much of a subset of Newtonian Physics it implements, IMHO. From what I've read, GPL is meant to contain a large subset of Newtonian physics, wheres GP3 apparently (from what I've read) contains a smaller subset. I can't comment on F1-2000, as I haven't tried it. Now, I'm not saying there is anything wrong with this, there is obviously a market for this kinda game, but your hardcore simmer spoilt on GPL is bound to be a little dissappointed. Gavin 'Sharknose' Thomas "Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> Yea Im Z as well....hehe. > > PAPA DOC > > PS I said it before and its still true...(or maybe I agree with > it..umm) Grand Prix Legends is the Flanker 1.5 of sims...awesome. > > >Z) F1 2000 is better than GP3. And you cannot compare GPL with these
games
Quoted text (10 lines)> >!!! > > > > > >Gavin Thomas <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws > >8lv9k9$7rj$[email hidden]... > >> Hello people. > >> > >> OK, I'm get a serious survey going here. Basically, I'm intrigued in > >peoples > >> opinions on GP3 based on what experience they have had with other sims
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Quoted text (8 lines)> >> the past. Basically, I suppose the crux of it is has anyone who > >plays/played > >> GPL actually said they think GP3 is more realistic. > >> > >> First, lets get my background out of the way. I've played GP1 (about a > >> weekends worth), GP2 (brought that one), F1RS and GPL. Out of those, I > >feel > >> GPL is far superior. My flatemate has brought GP3, and I've tried it a
bit > >> as well. I have to admit that I thought the weather was quiteimpressive > >in > >> GP3 but thats it. Graphics just don't seem right. The physics modeljust > >> seems 'wrong' (taking into account that I have more downforce etc). > >> Basically, I'm sticking to GPL, and GP3 is a dissappointment, givenit's
Quoted text (18 lines)> >> meant to have been in development for 4 years. > >> > >> Anyway, my view out of the way, heres my question. > >> > >> Basically, I would like as many people to group themselves into the > >> following catogaries. > >> > >> A) - I've played GP2, never played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, > >really > >> realistic. > >> B) - I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really > >> realistic. I think its more realistic than GPL. > >> C) - I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really > >> realistic. I think its not as realistic as GPL, but good anyway. > >> D) - I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really > >> realistic. I thought GPL was too hard. > >> > >> E) - Played GPL, got GP3 and think its overatted, but still pretty
good.
Quoted text (7 lines)> >> F) - Played GPL, got GP3 and think its overatted, but GPL is better, > >though > >> GP3 ain't bad. > >> G) - Played GPL, got GP3 and think its overrated, but GPL is worse. > >> > >> H) - Played GPL, got GP3, and think its not good, GPL is far superior. > >> I) - Played GPL, got GP3 but won't play much as GPL is far superior.
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Quoted text (11 lines)> >> GP3 has some nice touches, like fancy weather. > >> > >> J) - F1-2000 is better than GP3, but GPL is better. > >> K) - F1-2000 is better than GP3, GPL is not good > >> L) - GP3 is better than F1-2000 > >> > >> Basically, I'm a type (I) person. > >> > >> Now, why I have produced these groups. Well, I just get this nagging > >feeling > >> that the people who really like GP3 are in the (A) or (D) group. It
seems > >> that some people in the D group slag of GPL as being to hard, but some > >just > >> accept that they didn't have the time to practice it. Whereas, mostpeople > >> who don't like GP3 are in the F, H or I group. I doubt anyone is in theG > >> group. > >> > >> I'm saying that there is not anything wrong with some people not liking > >GPL, > >> some people just don't have the time to practice like you need to forGPL, > >> and GP3 is a better product for them. I just don't understand some ofthe > >> people who say GP3 is better than GPL from a physics point of view. I'm > >just > >> wondering how many of these people actually played GPL, or in factthey > >> did, and it was because it was too hard, they think the physics are not > >> accurate. > >> > >> Look, I'm not trying to start a flame war. I'm just intrigued bypeoples
Quoted text (16 lines)> >> backgrounds with sims, and how that influences their opinion of GP3. > >> > >> Gavin 'Sharknose' Thomas > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand > Flanker Target > GPL Crash Dummy > Video Card Wizard > www.papadoc.net > FALCON 4 Benchmarks > Rants, Bullshit and Reviews
M) Got GP2 and GP3 and GPL, loved GP2, love GPL now, quite like GP3 but am disappointed with lack of advances over GP2. Not even close to GPL. -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -3.01) "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)
Hello people. OK, I'm get a serious survey going here. Basically, I'm intrigued in peoples opinions on GP3 based on what experience they have had with other sims in the past. Basically, I suppose the crux of it is has anyone who plays/played GPL actually said they think GP3 is more realistic. First, lets get my background out of the way. I've played GP1 (about a weekends worth), GP2 (brought that one), F1RS and GPL. Out of those, I feel GPL is far superior. My flatemate has brought GP3, and I've tried it a bit as well. I have to admit that I thought the weather was quite impressive in GP3 but thats it. Graphics just don't seem right. The physics model just seems 'wrong' (taking into account that I have more downforce etc). Basically, I'm sticking to GPL, and GP3 is a dissappointment, given it's meant to have been in development for 4 years. Anyway, my view out of the way, heres my question. Basically, I would like as many people to group themselves into the following catogaries. A) - I've played GP2, never played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really realistic. B) - I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really realistic. I think its more realistic than GPL. C) - I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really realistic. I think its not as realistic as GPL, but good anyway. D) - I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really realistic. I thought GPL was too hard. E) - Played GPL, got GP3 and think its overatted, but still pretty good. F) - Played GPL, got GP3 and think its overatted, but GPL is better, though GP3 ain't bad. G) - Played GPL, got GP3 and think its overrated, but GPL is worse. H) - Played GPL, got GP3, and think its not good, GPL is far superior. I) - Played GPL, got GP3 but won't play much as GPL is far superior. But GP3 has some nice touches, like fancy weather. J) - F1-2000 is better than GP3, but GPL is better. K) - F1-2000 is better than GP3, GPL is not good L) - GP3 is better than F1-2000 Basically, I'm a type (I) person. Now, why I have produced these groups. Well, I just get this nagging feeling that the people who really like GP3 are in the (A) or (D) group. It seems that some people in the D group slag of GPL as being to hard, but some just accept that they didn't have the time to practice it. Whereas, most people who don't like GP3 are in the F, H or I group. I doubt anyone is in the G group. I'm saying that there is not anything wrong with some people not liking GPL, some people just don't have the time to practice like you need to for GPL, and GP3 is a better product for them. I just don't understand some of the people who say GP3 is better than GPL from a physics point of view. I'm just wondering how many of these people actually played GPL, or in fact they did, and it was because it was too hard, they think the physics are not accurate. Look, I'm not trying to start a flame war. I'm just intrigued by peoples backgrounds with sims, and how that influences their opinion of GP3. Gavin 'Sharknose' Thomas
Hello people. OK, I'm get a serious survey going here. Basically, I'm intrigued in peoples opinions on GP3 based on what experience they have had with other sims in the past. Basically, I suppose the crux of it is has anyone who plays/played GPL actually said they think GP3 is more realistic. First, lets get my background out of the way. I've played GP1 (about a weekends worth), GP2 (brought that one), F1RS and GPL. Out of those, I feel GPL is far superior. My flatemate has brought GP3, and I've tried it a bit as well. I have to admit that I thought the weather was quite impressive in GP3 but thats it. Graphics just don't seem right. The physics model just seems 'wrong' (taking into account that I have more downforce etc). Basically, I'm sticking to GPL, and GP3 is a dissappointment, given it's meant to have been in development for 4 years. Anyway, my view out of the way, heres my question. Basically, I would like as many people to group themselves into the following catogaries. A) - I've played GP2, never played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really realistic. B) - I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really realistic. I think its more realistic than GPL. C) - I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really realistic. I think its not as realistic as GPL, but good anyway. D) - I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really realistic. I thought GPL was too hard. E) - Played GPL, got GP3 and think its overatted, but still pretty good. F) - Played GPL, got GP3 and think its overatted, but GPL is better, though GP3 ain't bad. G) - Played GPL, got GP3 and think its overrated, but GPL is worse. H) - Played GPL, got GP3, and think its not good, GPL is far superior. I) - Played GPL, got GP3 but won't play much as GPL is far superior. But GP3 has some nice touches, like fancy weather. J) - F1-2000 is better than GP3, but GPL is better. K) - F1-2000 is better than GP3, GPL is not good L) - GP3 is better than F1-2000 Basically, I'm a type (I) person. Now, why I have produced these groups. Well, I just get this nagging feeling that the people who really like GP3 are in the (A) or (D) group. It seems that some people in the D group slag of GPL as being to hard, but some just accept that they didn't have the time to practice it. Whereas, most people who don't like GP3 are in the F, H or I group. I doubt anyone is in the G group. I'm saying that there is not anything wrong with some people not liking GPL, some people just don't have the time to practice like you need to for GPL, and GP3 is a better product for them. I just don't understand some of the people who say GP3 is better than GPL from a physics point of view. I'm just wondering how many of these people actually played GPL, or in fact they did, and it was because it was too hard, they think the physics are not accurate. Look, I'm not trying to start a flame war. I'm just intrigued by peoples backgrounds with sims, and how that influences their opinion of GP3. Gavin 'Sharknose' Thomas
Sue 29 Jul 2000 19:14 UTC#248245
J. Gavin Thomas wrote:
Quoted text (64 lines)> Hello people. > > OK, I'm get a serious survey going here. Basically, I'm intrigued in peoples > opinions on GP3 based on what experience they have had with other sims in > the past. Basically, I suppose the crux of it is has anyone who plays/played > GPL actually said they think GP3 is more realistic. > > First, lets get my background out of the way. I've played GP1 (about a > weekends worth), GP2 (brought that one), F1RS and GPL. Out of those, I feel > GPL is far superior. My flatemate has brought GP3, and I've tried it a bit > as well. I have to admit that I thought the weather was quite impressive in > GP3 but thats it. Graphics just don't seem right. The physics model just > seems 'wrong' (taking into account that I have more downforce etc). > Basically, I'm sticking to GPL, and GP3 is a dissappointment, given it's > meant to have been in development for 4 years. > > Anyway, my view out of the way, heres my question. > > Basically, I would like as many people to group themselves into the > following catogaries. > > A) - I've played GP2, never played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really > realistic. > B) - I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really > realistic. I think its more realistic than GPL. > C) - I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really > realistic. I think its not as realistic as GPL, but good anyway. > D) - I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really > realistic. I thought GPL was too hard. > > E) - Played GPL, got GP3 and think its overatted, but still pretty good. > F) - Played GPL, got GP3 and think its overatted, but GPL is better, though > GP3 ain't bad. > G) - Played GPL, got GP3 and think its overrated, but GPL is worse. > > H) - Played GPL, got GP3, and think its not good, GPL is far superior. > I) - Played GPL, got GP3 but won't play much as GPL is far superior. But > GP3 has some nice touches, like fancy weather. > > J) - F1-2000 is better than GP3, but GPL is better. > K) - F1-2000 is better than GP3, GPL is not good > L) - GP3 is better than F1-2000 > > Basically, I'm a type (I) person. > > Now, why I have produced these groups. Well, I just get this nagging feeling > that the people who really like GP3 are in the (A) or (D) group. It seems > that some people in the D group slag of GPL as being to hard, but some just > accept that they didn't have the time to practice it. Whereas, most people > who don't like GP3 are in the F, H or I group. I doubt anyone is in the G > group. > > I'm saying that there is not anything wrong with some people not liking GPL, > some people just don't have the time to practice like you need to for GPL, > and GP3 is a better product for them. I just don't understand some of the > people who say GP3 is better than GPL from a physics point of view. I'm just > wondering how many of these people actually played GPL, or in fact they > did, and it was because it was too hard, they think the physics are not > accurate. > > Look, I'm not trying to start a flame war. I'm just intrigued by peoples > backgrounds with sims, and how that influences their opinion of GP3. > > Gavin 'Sharknose' Thomas
Phil Lee 29 Jul 2000 20:49 UTC#248252
Gavin Thomas <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8lv9k9$7rj$[email hidden]... > Hello people. > > Basically, I would like as many people to group themselves into the > following catogaries. > > A) - I've played GP2, never played GPL, got GP3 and think its great,really
Quoted text (10 lines)> realistic. > B) - I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really > realistic. I think its more realistic than GPL. > C) - I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really > realistic. I think its not as realistic as GPL, but good anyway. > D) - I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really > realistic. I thought GPL was too hard. > > E) - Played GPL, got GP3 and think its overatted, but still pretty good. > F) - Played GPL, got GP3 and think its overatted, but GPL is better,
though
Quoted text (13 lines)> GP3 ain't bad. > G) - Played GPL, got GP3 and think its overrated, but GPL is worse. > > H) - Played GPL, got GP3, and think its not good, GPL is far superior. > I) - Played GPL, got GP3 but won't play much as GPL is far superior. But > GP3 has some nice touches, like fancy weather. > > J) - F1-2000 is better than GP3, but GPL is better. > K) - F1-2000 is better than GP3, GPL is not good > L) - GP3 is better than F1-2000 > > Basically, I'm a type (I) person. >
I'm a type (I) person although I would add that I played GP2 a lot. My background in sims really started with GP2, ICR2 and Nascar Racing. I gave up on these for 3-4 years and got back into sim racing in September last year when I bought a new PC and GPL. Since then I have bought Nascar 3 (kept), GP500 (kept), RC2000 (kept), NFS PU (kept), SBK2000 (returned) and GP3. All the sims listed above which I kept run well on my PC. I returned SBK 2000 because I couldn't control it with the range of controllers I have. Of the sims that I have kept I can't remember the last time I fired up anything other than GPL. I bought GP3 on Friday. I did not try the Warez version, infact I have never downloaded any pirated software. I have read a few of the posts here about GP3 but haven't read most of them, mainly because there were so many and also because I wanted to come at GP3 with an open mind. I have spent some of last night and most of today driving GP3 and have come to the conclusion that I will be returning GP3 to Game tomorrow. This is because I feel that I will not get �30 worth of time with it. The main reason for this is that despite a lot of time spent tweaking the game settings, particularly the graphics and controllers settings, I cannot get it to run well on my PC. I have come to the conclusion that my system is not up to running it without a large amount of slowmo when near more than 1 car, particularly in the rain. The lowest processor occupancy I was able to get during a race was 80% when running completely on my own. As soon as I got near a car this went up to 100% and when there were 2 or more cars this went over 100%, inducing slowmo. The highest occupancy I saw was at San Marino in the wet when a car span in front of me. At this point the occupancy was 280% and the sim practically ground to a halt. I never felt in control of the car, probably because, in my opinion, it doesn't provide the same visual, audio and force feedback that GPL does. At no point did I feel immersed in the sim. I was running GP3 at a resolution of 800x600 with all mirror textures switched off, trackside objects set to medium and in the cards.txt file, bilinear filtering and low resolution clouds enabled. I also tried all the other options given listed in the readme file for tweaking the graphics settings. FYI my PC is a P2 400 with 128Mb RAM, V3 2000, SB Live! 1024 and both an Act Labs Force RS and an LWFF. If anyone wants to query whether there is a problem with my PC, they are more than welcome to do so, but I am sure that there is not. I base this on the fact that I can run GPL at 1024x768 with a full field and get 36 fps all the time except for the first few moments of a race. The lowest fps reading I get is 28. Also the other sims that I have listed all play very satisfactorily. I feel that I have given GP3 a fair crack of the whip and really wanted to enjoy it but sadly I didn't. I expect if I had a faster processor and a better graphics card I would have liked it better. Unfortunately GP3 has not given me any desire to spend time with it. When I got GPL I had that desire almost instantly. I knew that I had to learn to drive it properly. After 10 months of ownership I still have a lot to learn. I'm afraid that because I don't get this feeling from GP3 I won't be playing it very much and so feel justified in returning it, getting a refund and saving my �30 to put towards Nascar 4, Nascar Heat and Mercedes Benz truck racing, all of which I will probably buy and try. Cheers Phil -- F1 GPL Handicap: +62.32 secs F2 GPL Handicap: +149.80 secs St Eldred's Cup: -8.13 secs http://www.youpies.co.uk
Pierre Legrand 29 Jul 2000 21:21 UTC#248211
Yea Im Z as well....hehe. PAPA DOC PS I said it before and its still true...(or maybe I agree with it..umm) Grand Prix Legends is the Flanker 1.5 of sims...awesome.
Quoted text (85 lines)>Z) F1 2000 is better than GP3. And you cannot compare GPL with these games >!!! > > >Gavin Thomas <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws >8lv9k9$7rj$[email hidden]... >> Hello people. >> >> OK, I'm get a serious survey going here. Basically, I'm intrigued in >peoples >> opinions on GP3 based on what experience they have had with other sims in >> the past. Basically, I suppose the crux of it is has anyone who >plays/played >> GPL actually said they think GP3 is more realistic. >> >> First, lets get my background out of the way. I've played GP1 (about a >> weekends worth), GP2 (brought that one), F1RS and GPL. Out of those, I >feel >> GPL is far superior. My flatemate has brought GP3, and I've tried it a bit >> as well. I have to admit that I thought the weather was quite impressive >in >> GP3 but thats it. Graphics just don't seem right. The physics model just >> seems 'wrong' (taking into account that I have more downforce etc). >> Basically, I'm sticking to GPL, and GP3 is a dissappointment, given it's >> meant to have been in development for 4 years. >> >> Anyway, my view out of the way, heres my question. >> >> Basically, I would like as many people to group themselves into the >> following catogaries. >> >> A) - I've played GP2, never played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, >really >> realistic. >> B) - I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really >> realistic. I think its more realistic than GPL. >> C) - I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really >> realistic. I think its not as realistic as GPL, but good anyway. >> D) - I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really >> realistic. I thought GPL was too hard. >> >> E) - Played GPL, got GP3 and think its overatted, but still pretty good. >> F) - Played GPL, got GP3 and think its overatted, but GPL is better, >though >> GP3 ain't bad. >> G) - Played GPL, got GP3 and think its overrated, but GPL is worse. >> >> H) - Played GPL, got GP3, and think its not good, GPL is far superior. >> I) - Played GPL, got GP3 but won't play much as GPL is far superior. But >> GP3 has some nice touches, like fancy weather. >> >> J) - F1-2000 is better than GP3, but GPL is better. >> K) - F1-2000 is better than GP3, GPL is not good >> L) - GP3 is better than F1-2000 >> >> Basically, I'm a type (I) person. >> >> Now, why I have produced these groups. Well, I just get this nagging >feeling >> that the people who really like GP3 are in the (A) or (D) group. It seems >> that some people in the D group slag of GPL as being to hard, but some >just >> accept that they didn't have the time to practice it. Whereas, most people >> who don't like GP3 are in the F, H or I group. I doubt anyone is in the G >> group. >> >> I'm saying that there is not anything wrong with some people not liking >GPL, >> some people just don't have the time to practice like you need to for GPL, >> and GP3 is a better product for them. I just don't understand some of the >> people who say GP3 is better than GPL from a physics point of view. I'm >just >> wondering how many of these people actually played GPL, or in fact they >> did, and it was because it was too hard, they think the physics are not >> accurate. >> >> Look, I'm not trying to start a flame war. I'm just intrigued by peoples >> backgrounds with sims, and how that influences their opinion of GP3. >> >> Gavin 'Sharknose' Thomas >> >> >> > >
Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand Flanker Target GPL Crash Dummy Video Card Wizard www.papadoc.net FALCON 4 Benchmarks Rants, Bullshit and Reviews
Jason 29 Jul 2000 21:43 UTC#248284
G.) Gavin Thomas <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8lv9k9$7rj$[email hidden]... > Hello people. > > OK, I'm get a serious survey going here. Basically, I'm intrigued inpeoples > opinions on GP3 based on what experience they have had with other sims in > the past. Basically, I suppose the crux of it is has anyone whoplays/played > GPL actually said they think GP3 is more realistic. > > First, lets get my background out of the way. I've played GP1 (about a > weekends worth), GP2 (brought that one), F1RS and GPL. Out of those, Ifeel > GPL is far superior. My flatemate has brought GP3, and I've tried it a bit > as well. I have to admit that I thought the weather was quite impressivein
Quoted text (11 lines)> GP3 but thats it. Graphics just don't seem right. The physics model just > seems 'wrong' (taking into account that I have more downforce etc). > Basically, I'm sticking to GPL, and GP3 is a dissappointment, given it's > meant to have been in development for 4 years. > > Anyway, my view out of the way, heres my question. > > Basically, I would like as many people to group themselves into the > following catogaries. > > A) - I've played GP2, never played GPL, got GP3 and think its great,
really
Quoted text (10 lines)> realistic. > B) - I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really > realistic. I think its more realistic than GPL. > C) - I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really > realistic. I think its not as realistic as GPL, but good anyway. > D) - I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really > realistic. I thought GPL was too hard. > > E) - Played GPL, got GP3 and think its overatted, but still pretty good. > F) - Played GPL, got GP3 and think its overatted, but GPL is better,
though
Quoted text (14 lines)> GP3 ain't bad. > G) - Played GPL, got GP3 and think its overrated, but GPL is worse. > > H) - Played GPL, got GP3, and think its not good, GPL is far superior. > I) - Played GPL, got GP3 but won't play much as GPL is far superior. But > GP3 has some nice touches, like fancy weather. > > J) - F1-2000 is better than GP3, but GPL is better. > K) - F1-2000 is better than GP3, GPL is not good > L) - GP3 is better than F1-2000 > > Basically, I'm a type (I) person. > > Now, why I have produced these groups. Well, I just get this nagging
feeling > that the people who really like GP3 are in the (A) or (D) group. It seems > that some people in the D group slag of GPL as being to hard, but somejust > accept that they didn't have the time to practice it. Whereas, most people > who don't like GP3 are in the F, H or I group. I doubt anyone is in the G > group. > > I'm saying that there is not anything wrong with some people not likingGPL, > some people just don't have the time to practice like you need to for GPL, > and GP3 is a better product for them. I just don't understand some of the > people who say GP3 is better than GPL from a physics point of view. I'mjust
Quoted text (11 lines)> wondering how many of these people actually played GPL, or in fact they > did, and it was because it was too hard, they think the physics are not > accurate. > > Look, I'm not trying to start a flame war. I'm just intrigued by peoples > backgrounds with sims, and how that influences their opinion of GP3. > > Gavin 'Sharknose' Thomas > > >
HJ Ventura 29 Jul 2000 21:54 UTC#248255
Z) F1 2000 is better than GP3. And you cannot compare GPL with these games !!! Gavin Thomas <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws 8lv9k9$7rj$[email hidden]... > Hello people. > > OK, I'm get a serious survey going here. Basically, I'm intrigued inpeoples > opinions on GP3 based on what experience they have had with other sims in > the past. Basically, I suppose the crux of it is has anyone whoplays/played > GPL actually said they think GP3 is more realistic. > > First, lets get my background out of the way. I've played GP1 (about a > weekends worth), GP2 (brought that one), F1RS and GPL. Out of those, Ifeel > GPL is far superior. My flatemate has brought GP3, and I've tried it a bit > as well. I have to admit that I thought the weather was quite impressivein
Quoted text (11 lines)> GP3 but thats it. Graphics just don't seem right. The physics model just > seems 'wrong' (taking into account that I have more downforce etc). > Basically, I'm sticking to GPL, and GP3 is a dissappointment, given it's > meant to have been in development for 4 years. > > Anyway, my view out of the way, heres my question. > > Basically, I would like as many people to group themselves into the > following catogaries. > > A) - I've played GP2, never played GPL, got GP3 and think its great,
really
Quoted text (10 lines)> realistic. > B) - I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really > realistic. I think its more realistic than GPL. > C) - I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really > realistic. I think its not as realistic as GPL, but good anyway. > D) - I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really > realistic. I thought GPL was too hard. > > E) - Played GPL, got GP3 and think its overatted, but still pretty good. > F) - Played GPL, got GP3 and think its overatted, but GPL is better,
though
Quoted text (14 lines)> GP3 ain't bad. > G) - Played GPL, got GP3 and think its overrated, but GPL is worse. > > H) - Played GPL, got GP3, and think its not good, GPL is far superior. > I) - Played GPL, got GP3 but won't play much as GPL is far superior. But > GP3 has some nice touches, like fancy weather. > > J) - F1-2000 is better than GP3, but GPL is better. > K) - F1-2000 is better than GP3, GPL is not good > L) - GP3 is better than F1-2000 > > Basically, I'm a type (I) person. > > Now, why I have produced these groups. Well, I just get this nagging
feeling > that the people who really like GP3 are in the (A) or (D) group. It seems > that some people in the D group slag of GPL as being to hard, but somejust > accept that they didn't have the time to practice it. Whereas, most people > who don't like GP3 are in the F, H or I group. I doubt anyone is in the G > group. > > I'm saying that there is not anything wrong with some people not likingGPL, > some people just don't have the time to practice like you need to for GPL, > and GP3 is a better product for them. I just don't understand some of the > people who say GP3 is better than GPL from a physics point of view. I'mjust
Quoted text (11 lines)> wondering how many of these people actually played GPL, or in fact they > did, and it was because it was too hard, they think the physics are not > accurate. > > Look, I'm not trying to start a flame war. I'm just intrigued by peoples > backgrounds with sims, and how that influences their opinion of GP3. > > Gavin 'Sharknose' Thomas > > >
I'm using the latest 1.05 drivers. Cheers Phil rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:48:38 +0100, "Phil Lee" <[email hidden]>wrote: > > > FYI my PC is a P2 400 with 128Mb RAM, V3 2000, SB Live! 1024 and > >both an Act Labs Force RS and an LWFF. > > 3dfx drivers? They need to be the latest, or it will be slow. >
(unknown) 30 Jul 2000#247908
In article <8lv9k9$7rj$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Gavin Thomas) wrote:
Quoted text (25 lines)> Basically, I would like as many people to group themselves into the > following catogaries. > > A) - I've played GP2, never played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, > really > realistic. > B) - I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really > realistic. I think its more realistic than GPL. > C) - I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really > realistic. I think its not as realistic as GPL, but good anyway. > D) - I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really > realistic. I thought GPL was too hard. > E) - Played GPL, got GP3 and think its overatted, but still pretty > good. > F) - Played GPL, got GP3 and think its overatted, but GPL is better, > though > GP3 ain't bad. > G) - Played GPL, got GP3 and think its overrated, but GPL is worse. > H) - Played GPL, got GP3, and think its not good, GPL is far superior. > I) - Played GPL, got GP3 but won't play much as GPL is far superior. > But > GP3 has some nice touches, like fancy weather. > J) - F1-2000 is better than GP3, but GPL is better. > K) - F1-2000 is better than GP3, GPL is not good > L) - GP3 is better than F1-2000
None of your options describe me accurately. My preferred option would be: I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really realistic (for a modern F1 car sim). I think its *as* realistic as GPL (bearing in mind GPL simulates a different type of F1 car and era). The closest is either B or C. I loved GP2, it was way ahead of its time. I love GPL, it was also way ahead of its time. I love GP3, IMHO it is now the best modern F1 sim. Just my opinion......I'm not interested in any petty flame wars (I'm too busy racing). 8-) *Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html
Joe62 30 Jul 2000 02:50 UTC#248037
"Gavin Thomas" <[email hidden]> wrote: >C) - I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really >realistic. I think its not as realistic as GPL, but good anyway. C. Joe McGinn _____________________ Radical Entertainment
Peter Hooper 03 Aug 2000 23:37 UTC#245723
I'd go along with this one as well. If I was going to go with one of the ones outlined though it would be:- C PH <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8m12u0$lpp$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (20 lines)> None of your options describe me accurately. > > My preferred option would be: > > I've played GP2, played GPL, got GP3 and think its great, really > realistic (for a modern F1 car sim). I think its *as* realistic as GPL > (bearing in mind GPL simulates a different type of F1 car and era). > > The closest is either B or C. > > I loved GP2, it was way ahead of its time. > I love GPL, it was also way ahead of its time. > I love GP3, IMHO it is now the best modern F1 sim. > > Just my opinion......I'm not interested in any petty flame wars (I'm too > busy racing). > > 8-) > > *Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html

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