Blame Villeneuve not GP3 and I'm a huge fan of the guy, so I'm not
biased. I think the issue of his name and games licensing may have
been sorted out for games showing seasons after 1998.
OF1R 1998 Season no Villeneuve
F1 97 (Playstation & PC) no Villeneuve
F1 98 (Playstation) no Villeneuve
Grand Prix World 1998 Season no Villeneuve
Regards Mike
On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:51:31 -0400, Michel Marcotte
<[email hidden]> wrote:
UK PC Gamer gives GP3 95 percent
News that UK PC Gamer awarded GP3 95 percent drew scepticism, with suggestions of advertising influence and comparisons to inflated scores for Le Mans 24 Hours. Readers gave their own scores, mostly between 50 and 90 percent, citing missing AI car sounds, graphics, 1998 data and the absence of Jacques Villeneuve's name. Fans praised the weather and race atmosphere.
review/impressionsGrand Prix 3
Automated summary.
On Sat 29 Jul 2000 01:44:25pm, AM wrote:
>Time for a heated debate.
Good god. And there I was a couple of days ago parising PCG's tough
marking policy. Another one bites the dust... having played it for a
couple of hours, I think somewhere in the high 70s would be nearer the
mark - I'm certainly not returning it, it's a good game, but it's not
even close to the "revolutionary simulation system" advertised on the
box. It can't even cope with controllers with more than 4 buttons, fo
heaven's sake...
--
David. (GPLRank handicap: -3.01)
"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
really."
(Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)
Not in the slightest... they're going to receive and "Uncensored" entry by
yours truly.
Thanks for the heads up.... not at risk of popping a vain in public now. ;-)
Jan.
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AM wrote...
> Time for a heated debate.
GPL = It's a beautiful day mister just like the other 728
GP3 = Theres 6 Laps left it's wet through Eau Rouge It's dry at
Blachemont It's starting to rain again and I'm on dry's (Oh %$^*)
Regards Mike
On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 16:59:12 GMT, Peter Nilsson
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>On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 13:44:25 +0100, "AM" ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Time for a heated debate. > >GPL vs GP3 > >GPL = A multitude of beautiful noises dissipating from those 8, 12 or >16 cylinders mixed with the sounds from the cars around you. >GP3 = A buzzsaw. One buzzsaw. > >GPL = I trust in God and my skills to stay on the road >GP3 = I need downforce and fat tires to stay on the road > >GPL = I think F1 drivers did it "back then" because it was fun and a >challenge. I think F1 drivers now do it for glamour, money and girls >GP3 = what's "back then"? > >GPL = AI drivers are a challenge and with individual skills >GP3 = AI drivers are a nuisance > >GPL = different cars have different top speeds, engine temperaments, >sounds, gearboxes, suspensions, dashboards and colors and more >GP3 = different cars have different colors > >GPL = The ability to use any steering wheel know to mankind with full >three axis support and fully twaekable FF support. >GP3 = "Huh, should I buy two joysticks now or what"? > >GPL = hair on the chest (Ms. Hine et al excluded) >GP3 = translucent complexion and weak limbs > > > >Need I go on? Don't even get me started on graphics. > >/petern >/dons flameproof undiesI don't trust British magazine reviews any longer . Not after PC Format
praised Le Mans 24hr to the skies and that was probably far worse that GP3 .
It's better to watch the reviews of new games here on RAS . Some will like a
game , some will hate it , just make a judgement based on the balance
for/against . If a game is groundbreaking like GPL then you can bet that the
reviews will reflect that .
Andrew
AM <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Time for a heated debate.
>
>
Time for a heated debate.
Under the table payment to keep the *** business alive?
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Time for a heated debate.
"fatClyde" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Under the table payment to keep the gaming business alive?
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> How can you argue with such an un-biased review as that .NOT ! > So the missing 5% is for the: > 1)Crap Graphics > 2)Crap sound > 3)Controller Setup bugs > 4)Physics are strange > 5)Replays of 20 seconds, max. etc.......... > The 95% must be for something i've missed.How can you argue with such an un-biased review as that .NOT !
So the missing 5% is for the:
1)Crap Graphics
2)Crap sound
3)Controller Setup bugs
4)Physics are strange
5)Replays of 20 seconds, max. etc..........
The 95% must be for something i've missed.
Or Microprose payed for a big ad. inside the magazine and wanted a review
with over 90% of the
game ! Remember: Everybody has a price ! hehe
"Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "fatClyde" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:JOAg5.2574$8W5.24883@news2-hme0... > > How can you argue with such an un-biased review as that .NOT ! > > So the missing 5% is for the: > > 1)Crap Graphics > > 2)Crap sound > > 3)Controller Setup bugs > > 4)Physics are strange > > 5)Replays of 20 seconds, max. etc.......... > > The 95% must be for something i've missed. > > Under the table payment to keep the gaming business alive? > > > -- > > [email hidden] > > > > >You could tell months ago they were gonna cum in their pants over GP3, so
this is no suprise at all.
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AM <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Time for a heated debate.
>
>
On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 13:44:25 +0100, "AM"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>Time for a heated debate.
GPL vs GP3
GPL = A multitude of beautiful noises dissipating from those 8, 12 or
16 cylinders mixed with the sounds from the cars around you.
GP3 = A buzzsaw. One buzzsaw.
GPL = I trust in God and my skills to stay on the road
GP3 = I need downforce and fat tires to stay on the road
GPL = I think F1 drivers did it "back then" because it was fun and a
challenge. I think F1 drivers now do it for glamour, money and girls
GP3 = what's "back then"?
GPL = AI drivers are a challenge and with individual skills
GP3 = AI drivers are a nuisance
GPL = different cars have different top speeds, engine temperaments,
sounds, gearboxes, suspensions, dashboards and colors and more
GP3 = different cars have different colors
GPL = The ability to use any steering wheel know to mankind with full
three axis support and fully twaekable FF support.
GP3 = "Huh, should I buy two joysticks now or what"?
GPL = hair on the chest (Ms. Hine et al excluded)
GP3 = translucent complexion and weak limbs
Need I go on? Don't even get me started on graphics.
/petern
/dons flameproof undies
Personnally, 6.5/10 is enough:
10, minus 1 for the absence of AI cars sound,
minus 1 for poor 3D graphics,
minus 0.5 for the 2 years old season (98),
minus 0.5 for putting (what's his name?) instead of J, Villeneuve,
minus 0.5 for the limited number of views (1) that give you the
speed/gear/gas/etc information.
I'm eager to see what rating the US magazines will give to the game.
Americans aren't sold to F1 racing and should make more objective
reviews.
On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:36:10 +0200, "PcMan" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
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>Or Microprose payed for a big ad. inside the magazine and wanted a review >with over 90% of the >game ! Remember: Everybody has a price ! hehe > >"Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:XEBg5.1454$[email hidden]... >> "fatClyde" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:JOAg5.2574$8W5.24883@news2-hme0... >> > How can you argue with such an un-biased review as that .NOT ! >> > So the missing 5% is for the: >> > 1)Crap Graphics >> > 2)Crap sound >> > 3)Controller Setup bugs >> > 4)Physics are strange >> > 5)Replays of 20 seconds, max. etc.......... >> > The 95% must be for something i've missed. >> >> Under the table payment to keep the gaming business alive? >> >> >> -- >> >> [email hidden] >> >> >> >> >> >Congratulations in finding the one area where GP3 is superior.
"Mike Blackmore" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> GPL = It's a beautiful day mister just like the other 728 > GP3 = Theres 6 Laps left it's wet through Eau Rouge It's dry at > Blachemont It's starting to rain again and I'm on dry's (Oh %$^*) > > Regards Mike > > On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 16:59:12 GMT, Peter Nilsson > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 13:44:25 +0100, "AM" > ><[email hidden]> wrote: > > > >>Time for a heated debate. > > > >GPL vs GP3 > > > >GPL = A multitude of beautiful noises dissipating from those 8, 12 or > >16 cylinders mixed with the sounds from the cars around you. > >GP3 = A buzzsaw. One buzzsaw. > > > >GPL = I trust in God and my skills to stay on the road > >GP3 = I need downforce and fat tires to stay on the road > > > >GPL = I think F1 drivers did it "back then" because it was fun and a > >challenge. I think F1 drivers now do it for glamour, money and girls > >GP3 = what's "back then"? > > > >GPL = AI drivers are a challenge and with individual skills > >GP3 = AI drivers are a nuisance > > > >GPL = different cars have different top speeds, engine temperaments, > >sounds, gearboxes, suspensions, dashboards and colors and more > >GP3 = different cars have different colors > > > >GPL = The ability to use any steering wheel know to mankind with full > >three axis support and fully twaekable FF support. > >GP3 = "Huh, should I buy two joysticks now or what"? > > > >GPL = hair on the chest (Ms. Hine et al excluded) > >GP3 = translucent complexion and weak limbs > > > > > > > >Need I go on? Don't even get me started on graphics. > > > >/petern > >/dons flameproof undies >Peter Nilsson wrote in message ...
Yeah. And GPL sold 20 copies.
GP3 will sell a lot more. That's because it isn't a real sim. It's a game.
It doesn't matter what they say at microprose.
Sjoerd
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>On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 13:44:25 +0100, "AM" ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Time for a heated debate. > >GPL vs GP3 > >GPL = A multitude of beautiful noises dissipating from those 8, 12 or >16 cylinders mixed with the sounds from the cars around you. >GP3 = A buzzsaw. One buzzsaw. > >GPL = I trust in God and my skills to stay on the road >GP3 = I need downforce and fat tires to stay on the road > >GPL = I think F1 drivers did it "back then" because it was fun and a >challenge. I think F1 drivers now do it for glamour, money and girls >GP3 = what's "back then"? > >GPL = AI drivers are a challenge and with individual skills >GP3 = AI drivers are a nuisance > >GPL = different cars have different top speeds, engine temperaments, >sounds, gearboxes, suspensions, dashboards and colors and more >GP3 = different cars have different colors > >GPL = The ability to use any steering wheel know to mankind with full >three axis support and fully twaekable FF support. >GP3 = "Huh, should I buy two joysticks now or what"? > >GPL = hair on the chest (Ms. Hine et al excluded) >GP3 = translucent complexion and weak limbs > > > >Need I go on? Don't even get me started on graphics. > >/petern >/dons flameproof undiesminus 0.5 for having a wrong name because of ludicrous licensing deals, that
takes all of about 5 seconds to change? A little harsh there...
G
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> Personnally, 6.5/10 is enough: > > 10, minus 1 for the absence of AI cars sound, > minus 1 for poor 3D graphics, > minus 0.5 for the 2 years old season (98), > minus 0.5 for putting (what's his name?) instead of J, Villeneuve, > minus 0.5 for the limited number of views (1) that give you the > speed/gear/gas/etc information. > > I'm eager to see what rating the US magazines will give to the game. > Americans aren't sold to F1 racing and should make more objective > reviews. > > > On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:36:10 +0200, "PcMan" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >Or Microprose payed for a big ad. inside the magazine and wanted a review > >with over 90% of the > >game ! Remember: Everybody has a price ! hehe > > > >"Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:XEBg5.1454$[email hidden]... > >> "fatClyde" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> news:JOAg5.2574$8W5.24883@news2-hme0... > >> > How can you argue with such an un-biased review as that .NOT ! > >> > So the missing 5% is for the: > >> > 1)Crap Graphics > >> > 2)Crap sound > >> > 3)Controller Setup bugs > >> > 4)Physics are strange > >> > 5)Replays of 20 seconds, max. etc.......... > >> > The 95% must be for something i've missed. > >> > >> Under the table payment to keep the gaming business alive? > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> [email hidden] > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >I agree with that score, it`s not perfect but then again what is?, bloody
enjoyable and addictive game though.
Snake.
rrevved wrote in message ...
>On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 13:44:25 +0100, "AM" <[email hidden]>wrote:
>
>>Time for a heated debate.
>>
>
>I, personally, would give it 85-90%.
>
Yes the name can be changed, but not the guy's picture. Besides,
Villeneuve is in F1-2000 and F1WGP. Why not GP3?
But i have to admit that i'm a french-canadian and i take it a little
bad not to see Villeneuve....
On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:42:51 +0100, "Graham Triggs"
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>minus 0.5 for having a wrong name because of ludicrous licensing deals, that >takes all of about 5 seconds to change? A little harsh there... > >G > >"Michel Marcotte" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Personnally, 6.5/10 is enough: >> >> 10, minus 1 for the absence of AI cars sound, >> minus 1 for poor 3D graphics, >> minus 0.5 for the 2 years old season (98), >> minus 0.5 for putting (what's his name?) instead of J, Villeneuve, >> minus 0.5 for the limited number of views (1) that give you the >> speed/gear/gas/etc information. >> >> I'm eager to see what rating the US magazines will give to the game. >> Americans aren't sold to F1 racing and should make more objective >> reviews. >> >> >> On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:36:10 +0200, "PcMan" <[email hidden]> >> wrote: >> >> >Or Microprose payed for a big ad. inside the magazine and wanted a review >> >with over 90% of the >> >game ! Remember: Everybody has a price ! hehe >> > >> >"Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> >news:XEBg5.1454$[email hidden]... >> >> "fatClyde" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> >> news:JOAg5.2574$8W5.24883@news2-hme0... >> >> > How can you argue with such an un-biased review as that .NOT ! >> >> > So the missing 5% is for the: >> >> > 1)Crap Graphics >> >> > 2)Crap sound >> >> > 3)Controller Setup bugs >> >> > 4)Physics are strange >> >> > 5)Replays of 20 seconds, max. etc.......... >> >> > The 95% must be for something i've missed. >> >> >> >> Under the table payment to keep the gaming business alive? >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> [email hidden] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 15:38:48 -0500, rrevved
<[email hidden]> wrote:
Updating car paint and pilotes is one thing, but adding the Sepang and
Indianapolis tracks?
I wish it, but i don't think it will happen soon.
Now that i think of it, SCGT tracks can be converted to be played in
F1-2000. Maybe it can be done from F1-2000 to GP3?
True, they did a great job with the wheel, but sometimes i'd like to
see the other cars near my rear.
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>On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 15:19:24 -0400, Michel Marcotte <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Personnally, 6.5/10 is enough: >> >>10, minus 1 for the absence of AI cars sound, > >Agree! > >>minus 1 for poor 3D graphics, > >Disagree, strongly. > >>minus 0.5 for the 2 years old season (98), > >Want a current season? Wait 3 days.Quoted text (12 lines)
> >>minus 0.5 for putting (what's his name?) instead of J, Villeneuve, > >You're being a little silly, now.. :) > >>minus 0.5 for the limited number of views (1) that give you the >>speed/gear/gas/etc information. >> > >Radically disagree. Best cockpit I have ever seen. >I use the cockpit, not the no-cockpit or arcade >'behind the car' view.Quoted text (38 lines)
> >>I'm eager to see what rating the US magazines will give to the game. >>Americans aren't sold to F1 racing and should make more objective >>reviews. >> >> >>On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:36:10 +0200, "PcMan" <[email hidden]> >>wrote: >> >>>Or Microprose payed for a big ad. inside the magazine and wanted a review >>>with over 90% of the >>>game ! Remember: Everybody has a price ! hehe >>> >>>"Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>news:XEBg5.1454$[email hidden]... >>>> "fatClyde" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>> news:JOAg5.2574$8W5.24883@news2-hme0... >>>> > How can you argue with such an un-biased review as that .NOT ! >>>> > So the missing 5% is for the: >>>> > 1)Crap Graphics >>>> > 2)Crap sound >>>> > 3)Controller Setup bugs >>>> > 4)Physics are strange >>>> > 5)Replays of 20 seconds, max. etc.......... >>>> > The 95% must be for something i've missed. >>>> >>>> Under the table payment to keep the gaming business alive? >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> [email hidden] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>95-98%
regards
"ymenard" <[email hidden]> skrev i en meddelelse
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realise
> how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.
>
>
>
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> "rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote > > I, personally, would give it 85-90%. > > 70-75%. > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.WeRace.net > -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't"rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote
> I, personally, would give it 85-90%.
70-75%.
--
-- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.WeRace.net
-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.
On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:05:37 +0100, Gareth Evans
<[email hidden]> mangled uncounted electrons thus:
>rrevved wrote:
>
>> >>Radically disagree. Best cockpit I have ever seen.
IMO- the thing I *really* want to lose is that damned moving
wheel. It distracts the hell out of me.
That's my biggest gripe - that you can disable it in software
mode but not in hardware.
Patch, anyone? ^.^
Martin D. Pay
Still tweaking graphics settings... ^_-
rrevved wrote:
> >>Radically disagree. Best cockpit I have ever seen.
>
Seconded.
Gareth Evans
> >>Radically disagree. Best***pit I have ever seen.
Seconded.
Gareth Evans
On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:28:37 +0100, Martin D. Pay
<[email hidden]> thus spoke:
>That's my biggest gripe - that you can disable it in software
>mode but not in hardware.
I couldn't even disable it in software mode for some reason.
--
Nos
I think it can only be disabled in 640 x 480 software mode.
Tony Whitley
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> On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:28:37 +0100, Martin D. Pay > <[email hidden]> thus spoke: > > > >That's my biggest gripe - that you can disable it in software > >mode but not in hardware. > > I couldn't even disable it in software mode for some reason. > -- > NosOn Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:46:48 +0100, "Tony Whitley" <t o n y . w h i t
l e y @ n S t P l A w M o r l d . c o m> thus spoke:
>I think it can only be disabled in 640 x 480 software mode.
Ah...that's why. Thx.What the hell kind of option is that though? You
can only select it in 640x480 software mode? They obviously didn't
test GP3 very well.
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Nos
I would rate it 90 %, I hope for a patch, with a solid carrer option,
then I would rate it 95 %.
..
MVH
Anders H. J�rgensen,
der snart flytter til �rhus.
email: [email hidden]
Sorry it only gets a 50% from me , it is patchy and the poor FF integration
is laughable
Bargain Bin for this one
