Re: GP3 Complaints

I have to agree. When I first played I was no initally impressed. I thought it was too much like GP2. However I have rapidly changed my mind. I'm using it on a p2-450, with a voodoo 5 (use one chip setting, gp3 cannot handle 2), and it runs fantastically. The weather is 2nd to none, looks great and the way it changes is great. The physics feel great to, they have addressed my biggest complaint about gp2, which was how nervous the cars were over the kerbs, now you can really attack them. What really excited me was the way the cars defend the corners, and also will attack you given a chance. They have got it just about right. We cannot expect perfection on this, but this is pretty good. I remember being dissapointed at F1-2000, which could have been great if not for the over aggressive ai, which always resulted in accidents. However, yep there are bugs, and I suffer from the biggest which is force feedback on msff, which just pulls the wheel to the left whenever making a slight deviation to the left. To be honest, to leave that problem in, is inexcusable. Anyway I imagine this will be patched, by either microprose, or a third party. Its a great game! John Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:27:50 +0100, "fatClyde" <[email hidden]> wrote: >It's funny. All the ppl who love the graphics have second or third >generation PC's. I didn't realise there were "generations" ? Where did you dream that up from? Oh, I'm sorry - you use acronyms instead of words; explains a lot. Jonathan Beckett [email hidden]

I ussually don't post anything, just read other people opinions and keep mine to myself. But with GP3 I have to post. It seems that the most complaints are about stupid things, like cars floating in the pits, SO WHAT!!, the racing happens on the race track not the pitlane, bad graphic performancve, I have PII-450, 96 MB ram, and a 12mb Riva TNT, and with some adjustments it looks and runs well. I loved GP2 my first sim, NBext came GPL, loved it too, but I wanted a modern F1 sim and GP3 is the best. Thanks Steven

It's funny. All the ppl who love the graphics have second or third generation PC's. "RCFUN2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I ussually don't post anything, just read other people opinions and keepmine > to myself. But with GP3 I have to post. It seems that the most complaintsare > about stupid things, like cars floating in the pits, SO WHAT!!, the racing > happens on the race track not the pitlane, bad graphic performancve, Ihave > PII-450, 96 MB ram, and a 12mb Riva TNT, and with some adjustments itlooks and > runs well. I loved GP2 my first sim, NBext came GPL, loved it too, but I > wanted a modern F1 sim and GP3 is the best. > > Thanks > > Steven

Sorry, i'll get my crayons out for you next time.

> > Oh, I'm sorry - you use acronyms instead of words; explains a lot. Sorry, i'll get my crayons out for you next time.

In rec.autos.simulators, Jonathan Beckett wrote: > >It's funny. All the ppl who love the graphics have second or third > >generation PC's. > > I didn't realise there were "generations" ? I would have thought a third generation PC was a 386.. -- Andrew Gillett http://argnet.fatal-design.com/ ICQ: See homepage "Of course, they're all snowy owls once -I've- finished with them." - Richard Herring

Does that make Second generation 286? Which way up or down the scale are we going? :o) if I'm right isn't the original posters machine a Sixth Generation? Andrew R. Gillett <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In rec.autos.simulators, Jonathan Beckett wrote: > > >It's funny. All the ppl who love the graphics have second or third > > >generation PC's. > > > > I didn't realise there were "generations" ? > > I would have thought a third generation PC was a 386.. > > -- > Andrew Gillett http://argnet.fatal-design.com/ ICQ: See homepage > "Of course, they're all snowy owls once -I've- finished with them." > - Richard Herring

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> > > Well Rod, from your comments i'm assuming you just haven't played many > F1 sims then, probably not many pc games period. I have three systems > networked at home (including at least one that's superior in all ways > to the system you played it on) with a varitey of 3d cards and have a > TON of experience playing just about every automotive sim that's been > released in the last 10 years and i think GP3's graphics suck compared > to just about any racing sim released in the past few years, GP3's > graphics are good for 1996, not for the year 2000. Here are the specs > of my three pc's, i've installed GP3 on all three and it looks the > same (shit) on them all: > > PIII 450 with an ATI All in Wonder Pro 128 AGP w/32 megs video ram and > a Voodoo3 3000 pci with 16 megs ram and 128 meg system ram. > > PIII 667eb 133mhz with a Matrox G400 Dual Head w/32 megs video ram and > 128 megs system ram. > > PIII 933eb 133mhz with a GeoForce 2 7700 Deluxe w/32 megs video ram > and 256 megs system ram. > > As you can see all three of my systems are graphics powerhouses and i > buy and download tons of games, so i have seen alot of stuff in order > to make my judgement that GP3's graphics suck. Also, i have the latest > drivers for all cards and run the game on max details at 1280x1024 on > all 3 machines. If you think GP3's graphics come even close to games > like GPL, SCGT, MGPR, hell even F1RS etc.. you are just plain blind!.

Maybe you just dunno how to setup all those systems then.... Gotta PIII-500 with a Voodoo3 card myself and the graphics look gorgeous and silky smooth.... and don't come over here with you're tons of experience, I got GP2, IndyCar/II, Nascar Racing /II/III, GPL, F1RS, MGPR, F1-2000, and GP3 beats all of those in detail, use of color and most of all in FPS!!! Look at my compairance of F1-2000 and GP3 graphics on alt.binaries.simulators.autos. That's the way GP3 looks, and if you think that's crap, maybe you should get a new pair of glasses!! Regards, Roger

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 06:28:46 GMT, Rod Prince <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>In article <6rTg5.6927$uf.23909@news1-hme0>, [email hidden] says... >> It's funny. All the ppl who love the graphics have second or third >> generation PC's. > >You always stick your foot in it when you put the word all in a sentence. > >I have a P3-866 with a GeForce 2, and *my* opinion is that it's the best >graphical F1 sim available. > >Cheers, >Rod.

Well Rod, from your comments i'm assuming you just haven't played many F1 sims then, probably not many pc games period. I have three systems networked at home (including at least one that's superior in all ways to the system you played it on) with a varitey of 3d cards and have a TON of experience playing just about every automotive sim that's been released in the last 10 years and i think GP3's graphics suck compared to just about any racing sim released in the past few years, GP3's graphics are good for 1996, not for the year 2000. Here are the specs of my three pc's, i've installed GP3 on all three and it looks the same (shit) on them all: PIII 450 with an ATI All in Wonder Pro 128 AGP w/32 megs video ram and a Voodoo3 3000 pci with 16 megs ram and 128 meg system ram. PIII 667eb 133mhz with a Matrox G400 Dual Head w/32 megs video ram and 128 megs system ram. PIII 933eb 133mhz with a GeoForce 2 7700 Deluxe w/32 megs video ram and 256 megs system ram. As you can see all three of my systems are graphics powerhouses and i buy and download tons of games, so i have seen alot of stuff in order to make my judgement that GP3's graphics suck. Also, i have the latest drivers for all cards and run the game on max details at 1280x1024 on all 3 machines. If you think GP3's graphics come even close to games like GPL, SCGT, MGPR, hell even F1RS etc.. you are just plain blind!.

Cor!! You've got some great PCs there. And they're all networked together; how sweet. You sound like a really interesting person. Tell me, the connection between that guy liking GP3's graphics and you having some fuck-off PCs newtorked together is? ----------------------------------------------------------- Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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> On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 06:28:46 GMT, Rod Prince > >> It's funny. All the ppl who love the graphics have second or third > >> generation PC's. > >You always stick your foot in it when you put the word all in a sentence. > >I have a P3-866 with a GeForce 2, and *my* opinion is that it's the best > >graphical F1 sim available. > >Cheers, > >Rod. > Well Rod, from your comments i'm assuming you just haven't played many > F1 sims then, probably not many pc games period.

I've played nearly every one that's been released in either full game or demo. I'm also looking at over 500 original games as recent as Quake3, Shogun, SBK2000 (which is the supreme graphical racing masterpiece) closely followed by RC-2000, F1-2000, Unreal Tournament, yada yada... or would you like to talk flight sims? Falcon 4, Flanker 2, EECH, Mig Alley, F/A-18, USAF? Only 10 years? Junior ;P Hence the asterisks around the word MY. As in *MY OPINION*. Just because you think they're ***doesn't mean that a) I haven't played many sims, or b) I don't have the right to feel that they look good to *me*. I'm not condeming you for you saying they 'suck'. I have no doubt you feel that they 'suck'. Who said that? <gropes for keyboard>. The beauty of the human race is that we all have differing tastes. After playing F1-2000 for a few months, I went back to GPL, to *me* it looked very average in comparison. SCGT never really got me that e***d graphically, MGPR2 and F1RS were ok but sound problems, locking up and touchy throttle stopped me from playing those rather quickly, but their graphics never really grabbed me. I was merely making a comment about an owner of a high spec machine enjoying GP3's graphics, in which you said that only owners of 2nd or 3rd generation (I think you're confused about the meaning of 2nd and 3rd generation machines, personally...) would enjoy the graphics. Cheers, Rod.

"Craig Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Cor!! You've got some great PCs there. And they're all networked > together; how sweet. You sound like a really interesting person. > > Tell me, the connection between that guy liking GP3's graphics > and you having some fuck-off PCs newtorked together is? Did you even read his post? It seems not, you just wanted to complain or something. -- [email hidden]

Craig Jones wrote: > > It's called irony. It's a British speciality. ;-) Me thinks the British need to find another speciality then.

In article <6rTg5.6927$uf.23909@news1-hme0>, [email hidden] says... > It's funny. All the ppl who love the graphics have second or third > generation PC's. You always stick your foot in it when you put the word all in a sentence. I have a P3-866 with a GeForce 2, and *my* opinion is that it's the best graphical F1 sim available. Cheers, Rod.

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> On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 06:28:46 GMT, Rod Prince > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >In article <6rTg5.6927$uf.23909@news1-hme0>, [email hidden] says... > >> It's funny. All the ppl who love the graphics have second or third > >> generation PC's. > > > >You always stick your foot in it when you put the word all in a sentence. > > > >I have a P3-866 with a GeForce 2, and *my* opinion is that it's the best > >graphical F1 sim available. > > > >Cheers, > >Rod. > > Well Rod, from your comments i'm assuming you just haven't played many > F1 sims then, probably not many pc games period.

I've played nearly every one that's been released in either full game or demo. I'm also looking at over 500 original games as recent as Quake3, Shogun, SBK2000 (which is the supreme graphical racing masterpiece) closely followed by RC-2000, F1-2000, Unreal Tournament, yada yada... or would you like to talk flight sims? Falcon 4, Flanker 2, EECH, Mig Alley, F/A-18, USAF? > TON of experience playing just about every automotive sim that's been > released in the last 10 years Only 10 years? Junior ;P > and i think GP3's graphics suck compared > to just about any racing sim released in the past few years, GP3's > graphics are good for 1996, not for the year 2000. Hence the asterisks around the word MY. As in *MY OPINION*. Just because you think they're crap doesn't mean that a) I haven't played many sims, or b) I don't have the right to feel that they look good to *me*. I'm not condeming you for you saying they 'suck'. I have no doubt you feel that they 'suck'. > If you think GP3's graphics come even close to games > like GPL, SCGT, MGPR, hell even F1RS etc.. you are just plain blind!. Who said that? <gropes for keyboard>. The beauty of the human race is that we all have differing tastes. After playing F1-2000 for a few months, I went back to GPL, to *me* it looked very average in comparison. SCGT never really got me that excited graphically, MGPR2 and F1RS were ok but sound problems, locking up and touchy throttle stopped me from playing those rather quickly, but their graphics never really grabbed me. I was merely making a comment about an owner of a high spec machine enjoying GP3's graphics, in which you said that only owners of 2nd or 3rd generation (I think you're confused about the meaning of 2nd and 3rd generation machines, personally...) would enjoy the graphics. Cheers, Rod.