Re: GP3&F12000 gfrx compared - see for yourself!!!

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> I got sick and tired off all those people bashing GP3 grfx!!! > I heard things like; worst 3d accelerated game ever, > looks shit, not up to date, would be good 3 years ago....!!! > > So I decided to take another good look myself and make some screenshots > of different spots and combined them into a JPG file for all of you to > see at alt.binaries.simulators.auto!!! > > Both games ran in 1024x700 (something) and with all details on. > Now where the hell does GP3 look crap, huh??? > Do me (and all other GP3-fans) a brake, bye yourself a decent gfrx-card > and a decent computer, or just shut up!!! > > Regards, > > Roger >

Pixellation...dis ist not gude. ::) In article <[email hidden]>, Roger Popken <[email hidden]> wrote: > I got sick and tired off all those people bashing GP3 grfx!!! > I heard things like; worst 3d accelerated game ever, > looks shit, not up to date, would be good 3 years ago....!!! > > So I decided to take another good look myself and make somescreenshots > of different spots and combined them into a JPG file for all of you to > see at alt.binaries.simulators.auto!!! > > Both games ran in 1024x700 (something) and with all details on. > Now where the hell does GP3 look crap, huh??? > Do me (and all other GP3-fans) a brake, bye yourself a decent gfrx-card

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> and a decent computer, or just shut up!!! > > Regards, > > Roger > >

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Pixellation...dis ist not gude. ::) Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

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I got sick and tired off all those people bashing GP3 grfx!!! I heard things like; worst 3d accelerated game ever, looks shit, not up to date, would be good 3 years ago....!!! So I decided to take another good look myself and make some screenshots of different spots and combined them into a JPG file for all of you to see at alt.binaries.simulators.auto!!! Both games ran in 1024x700 (something) and with all details on. Now where the hell does GP3 look crap, huh??? Do me (and all other GP3-fans) a brake, bye yourself a decent gfrx-card and a decent computer, or just shut up!!! Regards, Roger

Do you wanna race or count pixels on your screen ??? It is a computer sim, not real life!!! And the overall look is way better than F1-2000, pixelation or not!!! Regards, Roger [email hidden] schrieb:

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> Pixellation...dis ist not gude. ::) > > In article <[email hidden]>, > Roger Popken <[email hidden]> wrote: > > I got sick and tired off all those people bashing GP3 grfx!!! > > I heard things like; worst 3d accelerated game ever, > > looks shit, not up to date, would be good 3 years ago....!!! > > > > So I decided to take another good look myself and make some > screenshots > > of different spots and combined them into a JPG file for all of you to > > see at alt.binaries.simulators.auto!!! > > > > Both games ran in 1024x700 (something) and with all details on. > > Now where the hell does GP3 look crap, huh??? > > Do me (and all other GP3-fans) a brake, bye yourself a decent gfrx- > card > > and a decent computer, or just shut up!!! > > > > Regards, > > > > Roger > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

In article <[email hidden]>, Roger Popken <[email hidden]> writes:

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>I got sick and tired off all those people bashing GP3 grfx!!! >I heard things like; worst 3d accelerated game ever, >looks shit, not up to date, would be good 3 years ago....!!! > >So I decided to take another good look myself and make some screenshots >of different spots and combined them into a JPG file for all of you to >see at alt.binaries.simulators.auto!!! > >Both games ran in 1024x700 (something) and with all details on. >Now where the hell does GP3 look crap, huh??? >Do me (and all other GP3-fans) a brake, bye yourself a decent gfrx-card >and a decent computer, or just shut up!!!

What does it matter to YOU if people bash the game(for whatever reason)? You like it, they don't. Why don't you just enjoy the game, and let others piss and moan...? I mean, their complaining doesn't cost *you* anything, so why get bent about it? Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +59.33 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I don't think that comparing F1 2000 and GP3's graphics is really the issue. You need to compare GP3's graphics with all the other "new" games out there that have much better eye candy (unreal tournament/Qauke 3 for a start). GP3 is just plain out of date graphics wise. I must say it does look good and I love it but it should look and run better. It's just plain lazy programing just like F1 2000. Some Call Me Tim

Uh actually you should compare it to other F1 games, this being cuz there is no Monaco map for Quake 3 or Unreal Tourny....yet. Norm "Some Call Me Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:XJ4h5.4081$[email hidden]... > I don't think that comparing F1 2000 and GP3's graphics is really theissue. > You need to compare GP3's graphics with all the other "new" games outthere > that have much better eye candy (unreal tournament/Qauke 3 for a start).GP3 > is just plain out of date graphics wise. I must say it does look good andI > love it but it should look and run better. It's just plain lazy programing > just like F1 2000. > > Some Call Me Tim > >

Ohyeah sure, compare it too Quake??? come on boys get a life!!! Quake for ones has now physics-engine too handle also, it's just a plain dumb shoot out with nice eye-candy, why the hell should we compare GP3 with that??? As for lazy programming; GP3 runs silky smooth on my PIII-500-Voodoo3 machine, which can't be said of F12000, which even has the worst graphics of the two. Regards, Roger Some Call Me Tim schrieb:

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> I don't think that comparing F1 2000 and GP3's graphics is really the issue. > You need to compare GP3's graphics with all the other "new" games out there > that have much better eye candy (unreal tournament/Qauke 3 for a start). GP3 > is just plain out of date graphics wise. I must say it does look good and I > love it but it should look and run better. It's just plain lazy programing > just like F1 2000. > > Some Call Me Tim

writes: What does it matter to YOU if people bash the game(for whatever reason)? You like it, they don't. Why don't you just enjoy the game, and let others*** and moan...? I mean, their complaining doesn't cost *you* anything, so why get bent about it? Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +59.33 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]> [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > In article <[email hidden]>, Roger Popken <[email hidden]> > writes: > >>I got sick and tired off all those people bashing GP3 grfx!!![snip]

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>>Do me (and all other GP3-fans) a brake, bye yourself a decent gfrx-card >>and a decent computer, or just shut up!!! > > What does it matter to YOU if people bash the game(for whatever reason)? You > like it, they don't. Why don't you just enjoy the game, and let others piss > and moan...? I mean, their complaining doesn't cost *you* anything, so why get > bent about it?

Well, it might mean that other people get deterred by those posts and don't buy the game. Then when it's time for Hasbro to decide if they'll release a patch, they might not because of the low number of copies sold. That's where the enthousiasts will suffer. GP3 is a nice game and those whiners just might have to upgrade their graphics cards or get their systems running properly (I have seen some screenshots that *really* look bad and look *nothing* like what my systems produces in GP3). Dennis.

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>In article <[email hidden]> >[email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > >> In article <[email hidden]>, Roger Popken <[email hidden]> >> writes: >> >>>I got sick and tired off all those people bashing GP3 grfx!!! >[snip] >>>Do me (and all other GP3-fans) a brake, bye yourself a decent gfrx-card >>>and a decent computer, or just shut up!!! >> >> What does it matter to YOU if people bash the game(for whatever reason)? >You >> like it, they don't. Why don't you just enjoy the game, and let others >piss >> and moan...? I mean, their complaining doesn't cost *you* anything, so why >get >> bent about it? > >Well, it might mean that other people get deterred by those posts and >don't buy the game. Then when it's time for Hasbro to decide if they'll >release a patch, they might not because of the low number of copies >sold. That's where the enthousiasts will suffer. GP3 is a nice game >and those whiners just might have to upgrade their graphics cards or >get their systems running properly (I have seen some screenshots >that *really* look bad and look *nothing* like what my systems >produces in GP3). >

But the fact remains - some people are going to love a game, and some are going to hate it. Except for something like SoS1937<g>, you won't get everyone to agree. My point is you won't change anyone's mind - it's like trying to argue religion, or something... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +59.33 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

EldredP schrieb:

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> > What does it matter to YOU if people bash the game(for whatever reason)? You > like it, they don't. Why don't you just enjoy the game, and let others piss > and moan...? I mean, their complaining doesn't cost *you* anything, so why get > bent about it? > > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +59.33 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Well let's just say, I gotta deep sence for justice ;-)) And if someone says GP3 grfx are crap, worst 3d accelerated game ever, and so on..... it's just plain lies, it's not the truth, so I just put up these comparences between GP3 and F1-20000 to show just how good the grfx look like. And maybe some of those GP3 bashers, realise that it's probably there system-setup that makes it look bad and pixelated. On my PIII-500 with Voodoo 3 Card (hardly the fastest around) it runs silky smooth, unlike any sim I ran before, and believe, I'm a racing nut, I got them all ;-))

EldredP schrieb:

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> > > So what's your framerate, and what graphics did you have to sacrifice to get > there? Some people can do without trees, walls, and grandstands(for example). > Others want that for a total 'immersion', if you will, and aren't willing to > give that up. For them, that would ruin the game... > > Eldred > --

Everything is on, framerate enhanced to 31,9 by GP3 FRAMES, like I said silky smooth....... it's actually the first sim where I don't have to make compromises with the graphics-details..... I just love it ;-)) Regards, Roger

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>Well let's just say, I gotta deep sence for justice ;-)) >And if someone says GP3 grfx are crap, worst 3d accelerated game ever, and so >on..... >it's just plain lies, it's not the truth, so I just put up these comparences >between GP3 and F1-20000 to show just how good the grfx look like. >And maybe some of those GP3 bashers, realise that it's probably there >system-setup >that makes it look bad and pixelated. >On my PIII-500 with Voodoo 3 Card (hardly the fastest around) it runs silky >smooth, unlike any sim I ran before, and believe, I'm a racing nut, I got >them all >;-))

So what's your framerate, and what graphics did you have to sacrifice to get there? Some people can do without trees, walls, and grandstands(for example). Others want that for a total 'immersion', if you will, and aren't willing to give that up. For them, that would ruin the game... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +59.33 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, Roger <[email hidden]> writes:

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>EldredP schrieb: > >> >> >> So what's your framerate, and what graphics did you have to sacrifice to >get >> there? Some people can do without trees, walls, and grandstands(for >example). >> Others want that for a total 'immersion', if you will, and aren't willing >to >> give that up. For them, that would ruin the game... >> >> Eldred >> -- > >Everything is on, framerate enhanced to 31,9 by GP3 FRAMES, like I said silky >smooth....... >it's actually the first sim where I don't have to make compromises with the >graphics-details..... >I just love it ;-)) >

...So how is it that people with Athlon 700+ systems are struggling to get 20 fps? Are the AMD chips THAT bad? Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +52.52 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, EldredP <[email hidden]> writes

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>In article <[email hidden]>, Roger <[email hidden]> writes: > >>EldredP schrieb: >> >>> >>> >>> So what's your framerate, and what graphics did you have to sacrifice to >>get >>> there? Some people can do without trees, walls, and grandstands(for >>example). >>> Others want that for a total 'immersion', if you will, and aren't willing >>to >>> give that up. For them, that would ruin the game... >>> >>> Eldred >>> -- >> >>Everything is on, framerate enhanced to 31,9 by GP3 FRAMES, like I said silky >>smooth....... >>it's actually the first sim where I don't have to make compromises with the >>graphics-details..... >>I just love it ;-)) >> > >...So how is it that people with Athlon 700+ systems are struggling to get 20 >fps? Are the AMD chips THAT bad? >

Maybe they are ;-) I'm running it on a P111 600, V5 I get 25.6fps at full details 1024x768. I get around 120-140% occupancy at the start and after that it's usually varies between 50-110%. The sort of occupancy I could only dream about in GP2;-) Good enough for me. -- Sean Black

EldredP schrieb:

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> > > > >Everything is on, framerate enhanced to 31,9 by GP3 FRAMES, like I said silky > >smooth....... > >it's actually the first sim where I don't have to make compromises with the > >graphics-details..... > >I just love it ;-)) > > > > ...So how is it that people with Athlon 700+ systems are struggling to get 20 > fps? Are the AMD chips THAT bad? > > Eldred > --

I haven't got a clue really.......I think it's more a Graphics-Card problem than a CPU problem. From what I've heard the Athlon is a real powerhorse.......... Regards, Roger

EldredP schrieb: I haven't got a clue really.......I think it's more a Graphics-Card problem than a CPU problem. From what I've heard the Athlon is a real powerhorse.......... Regards, Roger

Norm <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:pX5h5.637$[email hidden]... > Uh actually you should compare it to other F1 games, this being cuz thereis > no Monaco map for Quake 3 or Unreal Tourny....yet. But it would be cool if there was! Imagine that... Quake 3 in Monte Carlo!!! :-)