Re: GPL ?????????

On Sun 30 Jul 2000 05:38:25pm, TH wrote: >Being a bit dissapointed with GP3 I've decided to tryout GPL! Good move :-) >So, I've downloaded the demo from Sierra......but what a crappy >scenary<snip> Bluntly, if you're more interested in eye candy graphics than car handling, don't buy GPL. That's not what it's about. >......oh boy�, this CANT be the game everyone is talking >about? So I downloaded the 1.2 patch to see it in D3D. >Now, I cannot patch the demo to 1.2...And without a 3dfx card the >game looks like GP1 and behaves worse.... You can't upgrade the demos to 1.2 (though I believe the D3D patch *does* work). <snip> >I dont wanna be left as a totally fool if GPL >is dissapointing / unplayable as well...<snip> Well, everyone's biased when it comes to rating a game. But the vast majority of racing simulation fans, and the majority of racing sim developers, say it's till *the* benchmark. Obviously, if you've got an EB within reach, you can try GPL out with no risk; but even if not, it's very cheap (UKP10 in the UK, about the equivalent in the US), so you haven't lost much. Should you buy it? If you want a pick-up-and-play, arcadey sort of game with flashy graphics that you can master in a weekend, steer well clear. But if you want to put in the time and effort (lots of both!), you'll find it incredibly rewarding. You'll also probably spend vast amounts of money upgrading your system, and say goodbye to any social life you may have had, but that's secondary... -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -3.01) "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

On Sun 30 Jul 2000 07:38:19pm, Mick wrote: <snip> >Is it my spec ...? > >PII 450 on an ASUS P3b-F >128mb RAM >Creative Voodoo Banshee running the latest drivers >SBLive Full, (which passes the WAV test .. I should think so too)<snip> Can't see anything wrong with that - the CPU is fine, 128 Mb RAM is way more than GPL needs, the 3dfx card is good, and the soundcard is excellent as well. No idea, I'm afraid. -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -3.01) "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

On Sun 30 Jul 2000 08:48:03pm, TH wrote: <snip> >All in all.....these things *might* be due to the fact that Im >trying version 0.0.0.0. (the demo). Which demo are you trying? There are two, and having a go at the other one *might* be worth a go. (Try www.theuspits.com ). > But I dont know....thats the >issue in this thread. Im dissapointed with the fact that I cant use >the demo from sierra.com. Nor can I find a warez version. The game's been out for 2 years, and is in bargain bins everywhere, so it's hardly worth it. -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -3.01) "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > Can't see anything wrong with that - the CPU is fine, 128 Mb RAM is way > more than GPL needs, the 3dfx card is good, and the soundcard is > excellent as well. No idea, I'm afraid. > The OS is W98SE. Funny thing is that I have tried it on my other machine here at home and the exact same thing happens. That one runs a P166MMX 64mb RAM Voodoo 3 2000 PCI Generic SB16 DX 7.0a and W98SE The common factor here is the OS. I take it it does run under W98? I can find no spec. Cheers -- Mick

Good God...the game costs $9.99 if you can even find it for sale. The game actually LOVES SBLive! and runs like a bandit under D3D from what I've heard. If you're disappointed with GPL, I don't know what to tell you. In article <fLZg5.7047$[email hidden]>, "TH" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Found the Patch. Patched ok. > > But theres no entry for D3D? And I cant find the "core.ini" that thereadme > talks about.... > > Sure this patch can be applied to the demo? > > Sure "Sierra Grand Prix Legends" is the GPL everyone is talkingabout? Hmmm > the sound is comming from my internal speaker in the PC :))) Perhapsthe

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> game doesnt like SBlive.... > > -TH > > Roger Squires <[email hidden]> skrev i en > nyhedsmeddelelse:DbZg5.2097$[email hidden]... > > The 1.2 patch doesn't work on the demo, but the D3D patch does,

they are > > separate. Also I would think the excellent lotus dashes from gpleawould

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> > work on the demo. > > > > rms > > [email hidden] > > > > > > > >

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In article <fLZg5.7047$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

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> Found the Patch. Patched ok. > > But theres no entry for D3D? And I cant find the "core.ini" that the readme > talks about.... > > Sure this patch can be applied to the demo? > > Sure "Sierra Grand Prix Legends" is the GPL everyone is talking about? Hmmm > the sound is comming from my internal speaker in the PC :))) Perhaps the > game doesnt like SBlive....

Intriqued with all these references to a game I have never seen before, I too decided to have a look. Downloaded the demo ... installed .... chose 3dfx adapter as my video out. So wheres the game then. I click on the Icon in Programn Manager ... get an egg timer for a few seconds ... and thats it! One desktop ... Good advert for the game isn't it? Is it my spec ...? PII 450 on an ASUS P3b-F 128mb RAM Creative Voodoo Banshee running the latest drivers SBLive Full, (which passes the WAV test .. I should think so too) So what is the score on this? Any help appreciated Cheers -- Mick

The 1.2 patch doesn't work on the demo, but the D3D patch does, they are separate. Also I would think the excellent lotus dashes from gplea would work on the demo. rms [email hidden]

On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:39:23 GMT, "TH" <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >Found the Patch. Patched ok. > >But theres no entry for D3D? And I cant find the "core.ini" that the readme >talks about.... Just create a core.ini file in the GPL folder. Add the lines it tells you to add in the D3D readme. >Sure "Sierra Grand Prix Legends" is the GPL everyone is talking about? Hmmm >the sound is comming from my internal speaker in the PC :))) Perhaps the >game doesnt like SBlive.... Works fine on a SBLive!. Game looks very good on my computer at 1024x768 so don't know what the problem is there. -- Nos

Hello, Being a bit dissapointed with GP3 I've decided to tryout GPL! So, I've downloaded the demo from Sierra......but what a crappy scenary......oh boy�, this CANT be the game everyone is talking about? So I downloaded the 1.2 patch to see it in D3D. Now, I cannot patch the demo to 1.2...And without a 3dfx card the game looks like GP1 and behaves worse.... I dont wanna ask directly for a warez site, but honestly....havin' purchased the latest 2 F1 sims, F1-2000 and GP3, and played them about 10 minutes each, I dont wanna be left as a totally fool if GPL is dissapointing / unplayable aswell... Any Ideas? How to look at this game before spending my last $ ? regards, TH

I thought the 1.2 patch IS the D3D patch? Where do I find the D3D patch? -TH Roger Squires <[email hidden]> skrev i en nyhedsmeddelelse:DbZg5.2097$[email hidden]...

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> The 1.2 patch doesn't work on the demo, but the D3D patch does, they are > separate. Also I would think the excellent lotus dashes from gplea would > work on the demo. > > rms > [email hidden] > > >

Found the Patch. Patched ok. But theres no entry for D3D? And I cant find the "core.ini" that the readme talks about.... Sure this patch can be applied to the demo? Sure "Sierra Grand Prix Legends" is the GPL everyone is talking about? Hmmm the sound is comming from my internal speaker in the PC :))) Perhaps the game doesnt like SBlive.... -TH Roger Squires <[email hidden]> skrev i en nyhedsmeddelelse:DbZg5.2097$[email hidden]...

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> The 1.2 patch doesn't work on the demo, but the D3D patch does, they are > separate. Also I would think the excellent lotus dashes from gplea would > work on the demo. > > rms > [email hidden] > > >

Actually, the greatest dissapointment is that I cant even play it...... Btw, it doesnt like my SBLive. All in all.....these things *might* be due to the fact that Im trying version 0.0.0.0. (the demo). But I dont know....thats the issue in this thread. Im dissapointed with the fact that I cant use the demo from sierra.com. Nor can I find a warez version. guess its back to tuning GP3....at least it recognizes my TNT card. -TH <[email hidden]> skrev i en nyhedsmeddelelse:8m1rfb$chu$[email hidden]... > Good God...the game costs $9.99 if you can even find it for sale. The > game actually LOVES SBLive! and runs like a bandit under D3D from what > I've heard. If you're disappointed with GPL, I don't know what to tell > you.

<[email hidden]> skrev i en nyhedsmeddelelse:[email hidden]... > Just create a core.ini file in the GPL folder. Add the lines it tells > you to add in the D3D readme. Did that....game now freezes the PC :( > Works fine on a SBLive!. Yeah, hmm.....under the installation it plays a wave file ok. But the game sound is...errrhhmmm "faulty". Perhaps due to the version? (0.0.0.0) -TH

David Buttery <[email hidden]> skrev i en nyhedsmeddelelse:[email hidden]... > Which demo are you trying? There are two, and having a go at the other > one *might* be worth a go. (Try www.theuspits.com ). I got 2: gplwdemo.exe (the one from sierra) and gpldemo (looks the same) Both the same :( -TH

David Buttery <[email hidden]> skrev i en nyhedsmeddelelse:[email hidden]... > You can't upgrade the demos to 1.2 (though I believe the D3D patch > *does* work). My PC freezes with this patch....hmmm > Well, everyone's biased when it comes to rating a game. But the vast > majority of racing simulation fans, and the majority of racing sim > developers, say it's till *the* benchmark. Yes....so I see..... > Obviously, if you've got an EB within reach, you can try GPL out with > no risk; but even if not, it's very cheap (UKP10 in the UK, about the > equivalent in the US), so you haven't lost much. Well, in my country its more like $99 for this old game (no kidding). So you can imagine why Im a little carefull... > But if you want to put in the time and effort (lots of both!), > you'll find it incredibly rewarding. Thats the sort of game I want. > You'll also probably spend vast > amounts of money upgrading your system Not good. > and say goodbye to any social > life you may have had, but that's secondary... That went the day I purchased my first 8086.... -TH

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > Downloading it now ... What a **superb** program ..... No wonder some of you guys rave about it. Thank YOU 8-) -- Mick

On Sun 30 Jul 2000 10:56:29pm, TH wrote: <snip> >Well, in my country its more like $99 for this old game (no >kidding). So you can imagine why Im a little carefull...<snip> try http://www.eb.uk.com who may be able to supply you with the UK version a *lot* cheaper. -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -3.90) "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

In article <H13h5.7639$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > Which demo did you download? > > Be sure to get the 18Mb demo from www.papy.com > > Oh btw...your specs are similar to mine...runs fine. Downloading it now ... I have tried two demos from Sierra, both about 12mb in size. I see that they claim W98 support so I'm hoping for the best ... I'll let you know. I did mail Sierra about this problem and amongst various comments, this shone through ... "....... it is not recommended to load a demo to determine whether the full version of the program will operate on the system." I find this quite amusing ..... Regards -- Mick

Eh... where did you get the 1.2 patch??? it's on the same page at Papyrus' web www.papy.com. They're both in the downloads section for GPL. Get the game on buget now... it will take over your life, but before you realise that you will have stopped caring. ;-)) Jan. =--- TH wrote... > I thought the 1.2 patch IS the D3D patch? > > Where do I find the D3D patch? > > -TH

GPL is available as a budget game now. Just get it. (costs about12 Dollars in Belgium) TH <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws 5SYg5.7025$[email hidden]... > Hello, > > Being a bit dissapointed with GP3 I've decided to tryout GPL! So, I've > downloaded the demo from Sierra......but what a crappy scenary......ohboy�, > this CANT be the game everyone is talking about? So I downloaded the 1.2 > patch to see it in D3D. > > Now, I cannot patch the demo to 1.2...And without a 3dfx card the gamelooks > like GP1 and behaves worse.... > > I dont wanna ask directly for a warez site, but honestly....havin'purchased

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> the latest 2 F1 sims, F1-2000 and GP3, and played them about 10 minutes > each, I dont wanna be left as a totally fool if GPL is dissapointing / > unplayable aswell... > > Any Ideas? How to look at this game before spending my last $ ? > > regards, > TH > >

Jan Verschueren <[email hidden]> skrev i en nyhedsmeddelelse:[email hidden]... > Eh... where did you get the 1.2 patch??? it's on the same page at Papyrus' > web www.papy.com. Well, I got mine from Sierra's website. The file I have is 12,9Mb and the file Im currently downloading from Papy is 18Mb........So Im hoping thats the real demo!!! > Get the game on buget now... it will take over your life, but before you > realise that you will have stopped caring. ;-)) Cant wait to play this game..... -TH

Then its allmost cheaper to drive to Br�gge and get GPL than it is to buy it in my Country....:) Expensive...all taxes and crap. -TH Karl Zosel <[email hidden]> skrev i en nyhedsmeddelelse:_82h5.68993$[email hidden]... > GPL is available as a budget game now. > Just get it. > (costs about12 Dollars in Belgium)

Ok now I get it....the 12,9 MB file from Sierra should be removed immediately..... With the 18Mb demo from Papy it looks VERY interesting. Thx. -TH Jan Verschueren <[email hidden]> skrev i en nyhedsmeddelelse:[email hidden]...

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> Eh... where did you get the 1.2 patch??? it's on the same page at Papyrus' > web www.papy.com. > > They're both in the downloads section for GPL. > > Get the game on buget now... it will take over your life, but before you > realise that you will have stopped caring. ;-))

Which demo did you download? Be sure to get the 18Mb demo from www.papy.com Oh btw...your specs are similar to mine...runs fine. -TH Mick <[email hidden]> skrev i en nyhedsmeddelelse:[email hidden]... > Good advert for the game isn't it? > > Is it my spec ...?

I got the D3D patch working just fine with the Demo for Papy's site. you need to create your own core.ini TH <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Ut1h5.7600$[email hidden]...

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> David Buttery <[email hidden]> skrev i en > nyhedsmeddelelse:[email hidden]... > > Which demo are you trying? There are two, and having a go at the other > > one *might* be worth a go. (Try www.theuspits.com ). > > I got 2: > > gplwdemo.exe (the one from sierra) > and gpldemo (looks the same) > > > Both the same :( > > -TH > >

Nope that was the answer.... -TH

"TH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hw1h5.7601$[email hidden]...

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> David Buttery <[email hidden]> skrev i en > nyhedsmeddelelse:[email hidden]... > > > Obviously, if you've got an EB within reach, you can try GPL out with > > no risk; but even if not, it's very cheap (UKP10 in the UK, about the > > equivalent in the US), so you haven't lost much. > > Well, in my country its more like $99 for this old game (no kidding). So

you > can imagine why Im a little carefull...GPL on Sierra Originals, Swedish price 149 sek. (=�11) Time to try that new bridge perhaps?

�ke Larsson <[email hidden]> skrev i en nyhedsmeddelelse:Zhdh5.3154$[email hidden]... > Time to try that new bridge perhaps? Allready tried it...too much water over there :) Greetings from DK -TH

Try limiting you memory to 2MB in the video, oh what is the setting guys? Is it the buffer? Come on 3dfx guys help me here! Then maybe it will work. There was a work-around prior to the 1.2 patch that may be required on the patch. SLG Mick <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>In article <[email hidden]>, >[email hidden] says... > >> Can't see anything wrong with that - the CPU is fine, 128 Mb RAM is way >> more than GPL needs, the 3dfx card is good, and the soundcard is >> excellent as well. No idea, I'm afraid. >> >The OS is W98SE. > >Funny thing is that I have tried it on my other machine here at home and >the exact same thing happens. > >That one runs a P166MMX >64mb RAM >Voodoo 3 2000 PCI >Generic SB16 >DX 7.0a and W98SE > >The common factor here is the OS. I take it it does run under W98? I can >find no spec. > >Cheers > >-- >Mick

(All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are due to too many English classes/teachers)

Ok Are you running DirectX 7a? http://www.microsoft.com/directx/homeuser/downloads/default.asp What video driver are you using for your TNT2? Download the latest driver at www.nvidia.com for the TNT2 3.68, install them as per the instructions in the readme. Hope this helps SLG "TH" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Actually, the greatest dissapointment is that I cant even play it...... > >Btw, it doesnt like my SBLive. > >All in all.....these things *might* be due to the fact that Im trying >version 0.0.0.0. (the demo). But I dont know....thats the issue in this >thread. Im dissapointed with the fact that I cant use the demo from >sierra.com. Nor can I find a warez version. > >guess its back to tuning GP3....at least it recognizes my TNT card. > >-TH > ><[email hidden]> skrev i en >nyhedsmeddelelse:8m1rfb$chu$[email hidden]... >> Good God...the game costs $9.99 if you can even find it for sale. The >> game actually LOVES SBLive! and runs like a bandit under D3D from what >> I've heard. If you're disappointed with GPL, I don't know what to tell >> you. > > >

(All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are due to too many English classes/teachers)

Steve Garrotto <[email hidden]> skrev i en nyhedsmeddelelse:[email hidden]... > Ok > > Are you running DirectX 7a? Nope that was the answer.... -TH

David Buttery <[email hidden]> skrev i en nyhedsmeddelelse:[email hidden]... > try http://www.eb.uk.com who may be able to supply you with the UK > version a *lot* cheaper. If we're following the rules made by the powers that be...(and of course we do that)...then the game is embedded a tax & borderfee that make up a lot of the difference.... Not by 400% of course...but anyways.... -TH

On Mon 31 Jul 2000 07:44:00pm, TH wrote:

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>David Buttery <[email hidden]> skrev i en >nyhedsmeddelelse:[email hidden]... >> try http://www.eb.uk.com who may be able to supply you with the UK >> version a *lot* cheaper. > >If we're following the rules made by the powers that be...(and of >course we do that)...then the game is embedded a tax & borderfee >that make up a lot of the difference....

<snip> True. Shame Denmark's in the EU, or you could avoid paying VAT on it. It'd still be cheaper than Denmark, though... -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -3.90) "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

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>I did mail Sierra about this problem and amongst various comments, this >shone through ... > >"....... it is not recommended to load a demo to determine whether the >full version of the program will operate on the system." > >I find this quite amusing ..... >

Well, their recommended specs listed on the GPL box were total bullshit. So, how do they EXPECT people to determine it...? Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +59.33 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> > In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > Downloading it now ... > > What a **superb** program ..... > > No wonder some of you guys rave about it. > > Thank YOU > > 8-) > -- > Mick

Your life has now been changed forever. Put pictures of your loved ones on the top of your monitor, lest you forget what they look like. A small refrig next to your desk may not be a bad idea either. <g> -- Chuck Kandler Windows is just a virus with a GUI

Maybe 10 minutes for each of these games isn't quite enough to give them before condemning them to the shelf. Yes there are some disappointing aspects to GP3.. mainly in what has been left out as opposed to what's actually in there but it is still a top notch 'modern' F1 sim. I am already having a blast with GP3 and am eagerly awaiting the plethora of add-ons that are sure to come it's way. PH TH <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5SYg5.7025$[email hidden]... > Hello, > > Being a bit dissapointed with GP3 I've decided to tryout GPL! So, I've > downloaded the demo from Sierra......but what a crappy scenary......ohboy�, > this CANT be the game everyone is talking about? So I downloaded the 1.2 > patch to see it in D3D. > > Now, I cannot patch the demo to 1.2...And without a 3dfx card the gamelooks > like GP1 and behaves worse.... > > I dont wanna ask directly for a warez site, but honestly....havin'purchased

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> the latest 2 F1 sims, F1-2000 and GP3, and played them about 10 minutes > each, I dont wanna be left as a totally fool if GPL is dissapointing / > unplayable aswell... > > Any Ideas? How to look at this game before spending my last $ ? > > regards, > TH > >