Re: What If GP4 Like N4 is the real advancement???

Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hn%g5.58891$[email hidden]...

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> The real problem with that scenario is.... > Papyrus had a working engine to use(GPL) > Papyrus had spent most of the previous year working on N4 > Papyrus also had the fallback engine(N3) > > now....has any word leaked out about Crammond writing NEW Code? > Has any word of a new engine been seen? > has a working product already been finished(a la GPL) that could

demonstrate > the advances? > The answers are all no. Do you really think they could start from > scratch and finish a product in 6 months? You'll get season updates and > probably some improvements in the multiplayer code, but GP4 most likely > will be GP2.75 Nah, GP3's GP 2.01 (but I still LOVE IT) GP4 will be GP 2.01a I think by GP19 (2016) we should have seen the last of the GP1 code, and perhaps see some new text and track maps for the manual. It'll be 2002 before we see a GP 2.x involving this year. But hey, I still LOVE GP3 DOug

I question your sanity and worry for your children. ::)) In article <8m2bi3$93j$[email hidden]>, "Douglas Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> > Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:hn%g5.58891$[email hidden]... > > The real problem with that scenario is.... > > Papyrus had a working engine to use(GPL) > > Papyrus had spent most of the previous year working on N4 > > Papyrus also had the fallback engine(N3) > > > > now....has any word leaked out about Crammond writing NEW Code? > > Has any word of a new engine been seen? > > has a working product already been finished(a la GPL) that could > demonstrate > > the advances? > > The answers are all no. Do you really think they could start from > > scratch and finish a product in 6 months? You'll get season

updates and > > probably some improvements in the multiplayer code, but GP4 mostlikely

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> > will be GP2.75 > > Nah, GP3's GP 2.01 (but I still LOVE IT) > > GP4 will be GP 2.01a > > I think by GP19 (2016) we should have seen the last of the GP1 code,

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> perhaps see some new text and track maps for the manual. > > It'll be 2002 before we see a GP 2.x involving this year. > > But hey, I still LOVE GP3 > > DOug > >

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Does anyone believe there will be a GP4 in our lifetimes? In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Skeeter) wrote:

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> Could it be that they let this upgrade to GP2 out for the same reasons > that Papy let out N3???Make some money on GP3 and then six months down > the line when GP4 comes out we could get the physics model that > everyone was expecting.Papy did it with N3 and gave the > reason---hardware not up to it.Hey its just more money for them since > we all know that many people purchased N3(even though it was a > cosmetic enhancment)and many people will buy N4.What if GP3's graphics > were purposely cut back for the sole purpose of a big advancement when > GP4 arrives.I saw pics of GP3 a month before the warez hit R.A.S and > it looked phenomeno!!I heard that they were doing a major sound > upgrade with them going to the races for real samples.Could it be that > when they announced that there will be many upgrades to the GP line > that they meant that in a yrs time the real GP3 will have arrived????? > > Who knows what GP4 has in store for us.Now I hope this doesnt get > everyone back on the GC wagan again but this could happen. > > PS:sorry if I am wrong and have gotten everyones hopes up. >

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Could we really hope for so much? My heart races at the mere thought of such fantastic advancements in simulation technology! In article <f6Wg5.78203$[email hidden]>, "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> > > "Skeeter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > snip > > Who knows what GP4 has in store for us.Now I hope this doesnt get > > everyone back on the GC wagan again but this could happen. > > > > PS:sorry if I am wrong and have gotten everyones hopes up. > > Hmmm, ya think maybe GP4 might bring us revolutionary changes like ai

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> and internet multiplay? > :) > > -- > Don Burnette > Dburn in N3 and Legends > ICQ# 74084566 > >

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Could it be that they let this upgrade to GP2 out for the same reasons that Papy let out N3???Make some money on GP3 and then six months down the line when GP4 comes out we could get the physics model that everyone was expecting.Papy did it with N3 and gave the reason---hardware not up to it.Hey its just more money for them since we all know that many people purchased N3(even though it was a cosmetic enhancment)and many people will buy N4.What if GP3's graphics were purposely cut back for the sole purpose of a big advancement when GP4 arrives.I saw pics of GP3 a month before the warez hit R.A.S and it looked phenomeno!!I heard that they were doing a major sound upgrade with them going to the races for real samples.Could it be that when they announced that there will be many upgrades to the GP line that they meant that in a yrs time the real GP3 will have arrived????? Who knows what GP4 has in store for us.Now I hope this doesnt get everyone back on the GC wagan again but this could happen. PS:sorry if I am wrong and have gotten everyones hopes up.

"Skeeter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... snip > Who knows what GP4 has in store for us.Now I hope this doesnt get > everyone back on the GC wagan again but this could happen. > > PS:sorry if I am wrong and have gotten everyones hopes up. Hmmm, ya think maybe GP4 might bring us revolutionary changes like ai sounds and internet multiplay? :) -- Don Burnette Dburn in N3 and Legends ICQ# 74084566

Maybe, but N4 is coming out almost a year and half after N3, and they are using GPL's engine. GP4 is coming out in less than 6 months. Just think if it is just season update with a few bug fixes. After seeing the release of GP3, if I ran Papy, I would see this as a huge opportunity. "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:f6Wg5.78203$[email hidden]...

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> > > "Skeeter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > snip > > Who knows what GP4 has in store for us.Now I hope this doesnt get > > everyone back on the GC wagan again but this could happen. > > > > PS:sorry if I am wrong and have gotten everyones hopes up. > > > Hmmm, ya think maybe GP4 might bring us revolutionary changes like ai

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> and internet multiplay? > :) > > > -- > Don Burnette > Dburn in N3 and Legends > ICQ# 74084566 > > >

The real problem with that scenario is.... Papyrus had a working engine to use(GPL) Papyrus had spent most of the previous year working on N4 Papyrus also had the fallback engine(N3) now....has any word leaked out about Crammond writing NEW Code? Has any word of a new engine been seen? has a working product already been finished(a la GPL) that could demonstrate the advances? The answers are all no. Do you really think they could start from scratch and finish a product in 6 months? You'll get season updates and probably some improvements in the multiplayer code, but GP4 most likely will be GP2.75 -- dave henrie Free the ICR2 source code! "Skeeter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Could it be that they let this upgrade to GP2 out for the same reasons > that Papy let out N3???Make some money on GP3 and then six months down > the line when GP4 comes out we could get the physics model that > everyone was expecting.Papy did it with N3 and gave the > reason---hardware not up to it.Hey its just more money for them since > we all know that many people purchased N3(even though it was a > cosmetic enhancment)and many people will buy N4.What if GP3's graphics > were purposely cut back for the sole purpose of a big advancement when > GP4 arrives.I saw pics of GP3 a month before the warez hit R.A.S and > it looked phenomeno!!I heard that they were doing a major sound > upgrade with them going to the races for real samples.Could it be that > when they announced that there will be many upgrades to the GP line > that they meant that in a yrs time the real GP3 will have arrived????? > > Who knows what GP4 has in store for us.Now I hope this doesnt get > everyone back on the GC wagan again but this could happen. > > PS:sorry if I am wrong and have gotten everyones hopes up.

On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:30:21 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> The real problem with that scenario is.... >Papyrus had a working engine to use(GPL) >Papyrus had spent most of the previous year working on N4 >Papyrus also had the fallback engine(N3) > >now....has any word leaked out about Crammond writing NEW Code? >Has any word of a new engine been seen? >has a working product already been finished(a la GPL) that could demonstrate >the advances? > The answers are all no. Do you really think they could start from >scratch and finish a product in 6 months? You'll get season updates and >probably some improvements in the multiplayer code, but GP4 most likely >will be GP2.75

What I was trying to say is that maybe GC actually has been working for the past four yrs on new code.That GP3 was a way to just rake in some extra mulla.The reason I thought about this is the fact that they were seen doing sound recordings in Williams pit and the fact that some of the pics that were distributed before were getting rave reviews.Then they release this shit.

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> >-- >dave henrie >Free the ICR2 source code! > >"Skeeter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Could it be that they let this upgrade to GP2 out for the same reasons >> that Papy let out N3???Make some money on GP3 and then six months down >> the line when GP4 comes out we could get the physics model that >> everyone was expecting.Papy did it with N3 and gave the >> reason---hardware not up to it.Hey its just more money for them since >> we all know that many people purchased N3(even though it was a >> cosmetic enhancment)and many people will buy N4.What if GP3's graphics >> were purposely cut back for the sole purpose of a big advancement when >> GP4 arrives.I saw pics of GP3 a month before the warez hit R.A.S and >> it looked phenomeno!!I heard that they were doing a major sound >> upgrade with them going to the races for real samples.Could it be that >> when they announced that there will be many upgrades to the GP line >> that they meant that in a yrs time the real GP3 will have arrived????? >> >> Who knows what GP4 has in store for us.Now I hope this doesnt get >> everyone back on the GC wagan again but this could happen. >> >> PS:sorry if I am wrong and have gotten everyones hopes up. > >

On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:30:51 GMT, "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> > >"Skeeter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >snip >> Who knows what GP4 has in store for us.Now I hope this doesnt get >> everyone back on the GC wagan again but this could happen. >> >> PS:sorry if I am wrong and have gotten everyones hopes up. > > >Hmmm, ya think maybe GP4 might bring us revolutionary changes like ai sounds >and internet multiplay? >:)

Who can say....anything is possible. That's the great thing about the software industry. Developers are continually pushing the envelope, adding new, revelutionary features to every subsequent sequel. Man! My head is just spinning thinking about all that could be in GP4, to say nothing of GP5!!

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Skeeter) writes: >What I was trying to say is that maybe GC actually has been working >for the past four yrs on new code.That GP3 was a way to just rake in >some extra mulla.The reason I thought about this is the fact that they >were seen doing sound recordings in Williams pit and the fact that >some of the pics that were distributed before were getting rave >reviews.Then they release this shit. Then wouldn't that strategy be counterproductive? Either A) the market is saturated, and people who already have GP3 won't buy another F1 sim, or B) the people who bought GP3, and are *pissed* about it, will have lost all faith in G. Crammond... Granted, some people *do* like GP3, but I'd think those numbers are much smaller than the other two groups... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +59.33 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

On 31 Jul 2000 23:53:40 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote:

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>In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Skeeter) >writes: > >>What I was trying to say is that maybe GC actually has been working >>for the past four yrs on new code.That GP3 was a way to just rake in >>some extra mulla.The reason I thought about this is the fact that they >>were seen doing sound recordings in Williams pit and the fact that >>some of the pics that were distributed before were getting rave >>reviews.Then they release this shit. > >Then wouldn't that strategy be counterproductive? Either A) the market is >saturated, and people who already have GP3 won't buy another F1 sim,

But if GP4 has the new code then everyone,pissed or not ,will buy. or B) the>people who bought GP3, and are *pissed* about it, will have lost all faith in >G. Crammond... Not if they advertise new code.Anyway this is just an idea and hope on my part

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>Granted, some people *do* like GP3, but I'd think those numbers are much >smaller than the other two groups... > >Eldred >-- >Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 >Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett >GPL hcp. +59.33 > >Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you >with experience... >Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.