Re: GPL Online/VROC - Modem Speed?

On Tue, 01 Aug 2000 18:43:02 GMT, [email hidden] (Brett C. Cammack) wrote: >So, it's better to have just as simple a connection as possible for >online GPL racing. All the extra bandwidth of the modern 56k modem is >unnecessary and the technology that implements it causes problems of >it's own. Excellent answer. In short, the slower connection is more "robust", leading to less data loss and fewer disconnections. Also, many people advise to turn off Data Compression and Error Correction (they just add unneeded overhead to the connection). I've done this, but I was having trouble with getting the VROC race list to come up or "chat lag". I turned Error Correction back on and fixed the problem (now I can consistently get a rcae list within 30 seconds or so of starting VROC). BTW, I set my modem to 21,600 bps and can get a quality rating of 980 or higher with most servers. "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

It all comes down to slower = more stable. Using 56k over a poor phone line can cause more packet resends and/or re-training of the modem to a slower speed. Jason. Andy Garton wrote:

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> Hi all, > > I've read in a couple of places that GPL online works better > if you actually *reduce* the speed of a 56k analogue modem down > to 33k. Is this true? If so, why does it help? > > Thanks, > Andy >

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In a nutshell, I believe it makes the connection more stable, hencethereforthwith making the other racers appear more stable on the circuit. Sure works for me! I do belive I just made up 'hencethereforthwith' :P Andy Garton wrote:

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> Hi all, > > I've read in a couple of places that GPL online works better > if you actually *reduce* the speed of a 56k analogue modem down > to 33k. Is this true? If so, why does it help? > > Thanks, > Andy > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. > Up to 100 minutes free! > http://www.keen.com

Actually 26800 works best for me. In article <[email hidden]>, Rob Swindells <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> In a nutshell, I believe it makes the connection more stable, > hencethereforthwith making the other racers appear more stable on the > circuit. Sure works for me! > > I do belive I just made up 'hencethereforthwith' :P > > Andy Garton wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I've read in a couple of places that GPL online works better > > if you actually *reduce* the speed of a 56k analogue modem down > > to 33k. Is this true? If so, why does it help? > > > > Thanks, > > Andy > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. > > Up to 100 minutes free! > > http://www.keen.com > >

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Hi all, I've read in a couple of places that GPL online works better if you actually *reduce* the speed of a 56k analogue modem down to 33k. Is this true? If so, why does it help? Thanks, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------- Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

On Tue, 01 Aug 2000 08:53:09 -0700, Andy Garton <[email hidden]> wrote: >I've read in a couple of places that GPL online works better >if you actually *reduce* the speed of a 56k analogue modem down >to 33k. Is this true? If so, why does it help? a. to be a client to an on-line race only requires about 20k of bandwidth. b. V.90 spec modems tend to carry on side conversations between themselves over line quality, optimum speed, etc. and will, on occasion stop what they're doing (sending/receiving your data) to "retrain" with one another to optimize the connection. A little data error isn't a huge deal to GPL, but long lapses without *any* data are just death when you're racing on-line! So, it's better to have just as simple a connection as possible for online GPL racing. All the extra bandwidth of the modern 56k modem is unnecessary and the technology that implements it causes problems of it's own. Regards, Brett C. Cammack That's Racing! Motorsports Pompano Beach, FL