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Re: GP3 & MSFF, Solution! Really!

10 posts by 7 people · 02 Aug 2000 - 06 Aug 2000

Richard S Beckett wrote: > > x-no-archive: yes > > Given a choice between a fix for the 3 axis support, and the FF, I'd take the FF fix every time. Hopefully they'll fix both. > I will call again about the 3 axis support, though. On the forum at http://forums.simracingnews.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/001140.html a guy called Gingercat (thank you very much!) posted THE fix for the pull to the left with enabled FF!!! He has the Saitek R4: <quote> Well, removing the key [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\control\MediaProperties\PrivateProperties\Joystick\OEM\Saitek R4 Force Wheel\OEMForceFeedback\Effects\{e84cd1c6-81fa-11d0-94ab-0080c74c7e95}] from the registry works - this is the "Raw Force" effect for the wheel. <quote> Here's the key for the MSFF: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaProperties\PrivateProperties\ Joystick\OEM\Microsoft SideWinder Force Feedback Wheel\OEMForceFeedback\Effects\ {e84cd1c6-81fa-11d0-94ab-0080c74c7e95}] It works, and finally I can enjoy this gem of a sim as it is supposed to be. Damn, I'm thinking of deinstalling GPL...naah, I'll find time for it again, I'm sure! ;) -- l8er ronny Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!
The issue is 3 axis support, something which seems to have been DROPPED since GP2...I take offense to it. CHRONIC PITY - because I love the damn game Doug Richard S Beckett <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8m94j4$[email hidden]... x-no-archive: yes Found the numbers: UK: 08705 745745 US: (410) 568-2377 Richard S Beckett wrote in message <8m9057$[email hidden]>... Guys, I think everyone with a MSFF wheel should call the GP3 technical support guys and ask for help and/or a patch. The more of us who complain, and threaten to return the game unless they sort it, the better. Would someone post the phone number, my stuff's at home. R.
Colin Harris 02 Aug 2000 13:21 UTC#246353
This is concerning the pull to the left, isn't it? I don't understand - I have MSFF, used the wheel setup from BHMS and it steers straight as a die (or as straight as I can keep it, of course!). Could it be something more specific? -- Colin Harris ColinHarris in N3/NL and VROC Bomber Racing: http://fullspeed.to/Bomber ICQ 25485061 Guys, I think everyone with a MSFF wheel should call the GP3 technical support guys and ask for help and/or a patch. The more of us who complain, and threaten to return the game unless they sort it, the better. Would someone post the phone number, my stuff's at home. R.
Colin Harris 02 Aug 2000 14:45 UTC#246306
Hi, Richard, Mine plugs into the back of my SBLive 1024 card, but the wheel setup is at www.bhmotorsports.com and look in their GP3 utilities section. There you'll find a specific setup for our wheel, with both the profile and .con file. As I say, mine works wonders. Hope I helped a little, -- Colin Harris ColinHarris in N3/NL and VROC Bomber Racing: http://fullspeed.to/Bomber ICQ 25485061 Richard S Beckett <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8m9624$[email hidden]... x-no-archive: yes Colin, Yes, it's the pull that's the main concern. Is your wheel usb, or joystick port? What's the "wheel setup from BHMS" that you refer to? Thanks. R. Colin Harris wrote in message ... >This is concerning the pull to the left, isn't it? I don't understand - I >have MSFF, used the wheel setup from BHMS and it steers straight as a die >(or as straight as I can keep it, of course!). Could it be something more >specific?
fatClyde 02 Aug 2000 18:31 UTC#246249
"Colin Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:pCVh5.6223$[email hidden]... > Hi, Richard, > Mine plugs into the back of my SBLive 1024 card, but the wheel setup isat > www.bhmotorsports.com and look in their GP3 utilities section. Thereyou'll > find a specific setup for our wheel, with both the profile and .con file.As > I say, mine works wonders. > Hope I helped a little, Just out of curiosity, which version of Windows and DirectX are you using ?
Zolli 02 Aug 2000 22:20 UTC#246095
Quoted text (11 lines)> On the forum at > http://forums.simracingnews.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/001140.html > a guy called Gingercat (thank you very much!) posted THE fix for the > pull > to the left with enabled FF!!! > > He has the Saitek R4: > > <quote> > Well, removing the key >
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\control\MediaProperties\Private Properties\Joystick\OEM\Saitek
Quoted text (8 lines)> R4 Force > Wheel\OEMForceFeedback\Effects\{e84cd1c6-81fa-11d0-94ab-0080c74c7e95}] > from the registry works - this is the "Raw Force" effect for the wheel. > <quote> > > Here's the key for the MSFF: > >
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaProperties\Private Properties\
Quoted text (7 lines)> Joystick\OEM\Microsoft SideWinder Force Feedback > Wheel\OEMForceFeedback\Effects\ > {e84cd1c6-81fa-11d0-94ab-0080c74c7e95}] > > It works, and finally I can enjoy this gem of a sim as it is supposed to > be. >
Did you try how this affects other games? Maybe you could report something about that. I wouldn't enjoy too much editing my registry whenever I change to another game... TIA Zolli
Zolli wrote: > > > On the forum at > > http://forums.simracingnews.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/001140.html > > a guy called Gingercat (thank you very much!) posted THE fix for the > > pull > > to the left with enabled FF!!!snip > > Did you try how this affects other games? Maybe you could report something > about that. > I wouldn't enjoy too much editing my registry whenever I change to another > game... Currently there is NO other racing sim that could suffer... ;) Of course, I'll check if I notice any diff in ViperRacing, GPL, N3, etc. Sorry, I deleted F12k, just couldn't drive the bobby car on fantasy tracks anymore. SCNR -- l8er ronny Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!
Bart Westra wrote: > > Works for me too! > > For savety and easy restoring, instead of deleting the key I rename it by > putting "Not " in front of the name. Also you may want to export the key > before you change or delete it ... I did just that. Now I can easily import the key again by installing this reg-file. But, how can I easily get rid of that key, I mean, can I use this file to search for the key and delete it? > > It does not cure the problem of the lacking center force when force feedback > is disabled. I'd never turn it off, after GPL & VR it's now the third sim with usefull FF effects. -- l8er ronny Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!
Bart Westra 03 Aug 2000 05:42 UTC#245930
Works for me too! For savety and easy restoring, instead of deleting the key I rename it by putting "Not " in front of the name. Also you may want to export the key before you change or delete it ... It does not cure the problem of the lacking center force when force feedback is disabled. Bart Westra "Ronald Stoehr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Richard S Beckett wrote: > > > > x-no-archive: yes > > > > Given a choice between a fix for the 3 axis support, and the FF, I'dtake the FF fix every time. Hopefully they'll fix both.
Quoted text (13 lines)> > I will call again about the 3 axis support, though. > > On the forum at > http://forums.simracingnews.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/001140.html > a guy called Gingercat (thank you very much!) posted THE fix for the > pull > to the left with enabled FF!!! > > He has the Saitek R4: > > <quote> > Well, removing the key >
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\control\MediaProperties\Private Properties\Joystick\OEM\Saitek
Quoted text (8 lines)> R4 Force > Wheel\OEMForceFeedback\Effects\{e84cd1c6-81fa-11d0-94ab-0080c74c7e95}] > from the registry works - this is the "Raw Force" effect for the wheel. > <quote> > > Here's the key for the MSFF: > >
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaProperties\Private Properties\
Quoted text (20 lines)> Joystick\OEM\Microsoft SideWinder Force Feedback > Wheel\OEMForceFeedback\Effects\ > {e84cd1c6-81fa-11d0-94ab-0080c74c7e95}] > > It works, and finally I can enjoy this gem of a sim as it is supposed to > be. > > Damn, I'm thinking of deinstalling GPL...naah, I'll find time for it > again, I'm sure! ;) > > -- > l8er > ronny > > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change > to take effect. Reboot now? > |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, > ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. > |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, > '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!
G Evans 06 Aug 2000#244918
Thanks that's cured it. What a star that guy is! I can now start to enjoy the sim. MSFF Gordon.

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