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Re: WOOHOO!!!!! - GPL(long)

52 posts by 29 people · 03 Aug 2000 - 05 Aug 2000 03:24 UTC

Eldred finally breaks 1:30 at Monza in GPL

Eldred, known for his slow GPLRank, celebrated breaking 1:30 at Monza and improving at Mosport after switching to left-foot braking and the Lotus. Regulars congratulated him, joked about the 'St. Eldred's Cup' for slow drivers, and discussed how practice in another sim and left-foot braking help. He later found he could not recreate the form on other tracks.

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EldredP 03 Aug 2000#245702
In article <B2ji5.2369$[email hidden]>, "Roger Squires" <[email hidden]> writes: > >Eldred: please bear in mind that my Mosport time is still much lower than >yours, and be humble. Peace. > Aw man, that's COLD... I can tell *you're* going in my buddy list...<g> Eldred - who's still humble, but happy... -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +52.52 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
EldredP 03 Aug 2000#245703
In article <[email hidden]>, Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (16 lines)>EldredP wrote: > >> So, to recap - 5 tracks, 4 new PBs, lowered my handicap by almost 7 >seconds, >> got under 1:30 at Monza! >> Not fucking bad, if I *do* say so myself... >> >> I *told* you guys that you'd hear about it if I got under 1:30 at >> Monza!!!!!!!!!!! >> Ok, I'm going to bed now. It's after midnight... > > >Great job man!!!! I figured taking some time away would help. But, >don't even *think* about going to bed until at least an hour's stint out >at The Ring! You may just get into the negatives yet...<g> >
An hour at the Ring? What are you, a sadist? :) Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +52.52 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
EldredP 03 Aug 2000#245704
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] writes: >How long did it take you to make the switch form right to left foot? I >suppose I'm going to have to do the same <sigh> When I first tried it in GPL, I could only do it at Monza. That's where the 1:30.53 came from. When I tried it recently, I couldn't stay on the track. Then I got F1 2K from Ebay. I tried it in that sim(I was pissed at GPL). I figured - EVERYTHING is new, so it couldn't hurt. After I came back to GPL, it didn't seem so hard then...<shrug> I'd say switching braking gained me about a second or so on each track. The leaps I took last night must have been due to the Lotus - HAD to be. Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +52.52 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
EldredP 03 Aug 2000#245705
In article <8F8561984dscurlock@news>, [email hidden] (Don Scurlock) writes:
Quoted text (16 lines)>[email hidden] (EldredP) wrote in <20000803010036.29305.00000866@ng- >cj1.aol.com>: > >>Eldred - still smiling... :) > >>GPL hcp. +52.52 > >Congrats Eldred, you'll be smiling for a week. It's great isn't it? Progress >in >this game comes so hard it really feels like an acomplishment to move ahead >in >it. You've now beaten the time of one of the standard replays, Monza. It was >also my first, and felt like such a break through. I thought "I can do this" >and it really motivated me to go after the rest. Sub Zero is next Eldred, go > >for it!
Uh, you guys are all acting like I've broken through some barrier. I just got lucky... We'll see what happens when I try the REST of the tracks.<g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +52.52 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
EldredP 03 Aug 2000#245706
In article <MNgi5.132167$[email hidden]>, "Karl Zosel" <[email hidden]> writes: >Just HOW did it? >I keep struggling to get under 1.30 at Monza. > >What does the trick? Uh, Lotus? That's the only thing I can think of... I tried the braking with the Ferrari, but it didn't help as much. But, there are still people faster than me with the COOPER. So...there you go... :) Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +52.52 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
EldredP 03 Aug 2000#245707
In article <[email hidden]>, "Rob" <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (12 lines)>Ok, now LISTEN! I'm off to get married this weekend which means no GPL for 5 >whole days! If I return to find myself back in the St Eldred's Cup I shall >be verrrry cross! > >I had a similar experience with Mosport - once you get in the rhythm the >seconds just drop right off. Watch Greger's replay - I'm 4 seconds slower >than him (of course) but I use his setup. I matched his shifts and my times >improved a ton. > >p.s. Congrats, EP. > >Rob, GPL Rank 22.26
<insert Elvis voice> Thank you, thank you very much... Rob, If I find a way to make up *30* seconds in one weekend, I wouldn't know what to do. I'd probably have a heart attack.... BTW, congrats on the wedding (does she like GPL?<g>) Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +52.52 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
EldredP 03 Aug 2000#245708
In article <[email hidden]>, Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (10 lines)>EldredP wrote: >> >> I'd like to thank Andre for pressuring me to left-foot brake, F1 2K for >giving >> me a new sim to practice it in, Alison Hine for her Lotus setups. I'd also >> like to thank the distinguished members of the academy...<g> > >What, no sniffing, no tears and no mention of God ? > >Sheesh, you have a lot to learn Eldred :-)
Hey, there's no crying in racing!!! Well, except for Mika and Rubens... :) ...And I'm an atheist...<g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +52.52 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
"Robin MacMahon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Fgmi5.449$[email hidden]... > rallying (sp?) in a little Ford Cortina in the early 80's. So... just when > I'm feeling good about myself... along comes Eldred and decides to "try" > left footing it and BAM!!!, he's under 1:30!!! I think I hate you, Eldred. Just wait 'til he sees the light on FF. :-) You know, I really like the sound of these words: "Told ya so!" Michael.
EldredP 03 Aug 2000#245840
In article <[email hidden]>, Ken MacKay <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (15 lines)>EldredP wrote: > >> I ran some laps tonight with the Lotus. I started at Mosport - PB *was* > ><snip> > >Congrats Eldred! I'm beginning to wish that Andre had never told you about >that >left foot! Damn.. I'm only faster than you at the Glen (and by a whole 0.2 >sec). >You'll soon have to come up with a new gig now that you're faster than the >average >GPL driver. > >And please let us know what you ate/drank/prayed to that day! :)
Ken, I really *wish* I knew how I did so well(for me) yesterday... I'd love to be able to do it again... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +52.52 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
EldredP 03 Aug 2000#245841
In article <8mbuor$1s5$[email hidden]>, "Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (8 lines)>| It looks like someone has been at the performance enhancing drugs :) , > >How are the guys at GPL rank going to account for that!!! ;) > >Random sampling is the only way to go! > >Ash :) >
Ye vant I should send ye a sample...?<g> Eldred - who wished the drug 'speed' worked for GPL... -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +52.52 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
EldredP 03 Aug 2000#245919
I ran some laps tonight with the Lotus. I started at Mosport - PB *was* 1:29.32 in Ferrari. I ran about 30 laps. Turned a 1:32.xx first lap. Ran off 5 straight 1:30's. Shoot, maybe I'm just stuck here... Lap 7, 1:29.42. Ok, not a record, but close. Lap 8, 1:29.29. New PB, but not by much. Let's try a different line in a couple turns - oops, 1:36.xx. Ok, calm down, keep it on the track - 1:28.00. WOW!, big drop! Try getting on the gas sooner... Assorted screwups...lap 14 - 1:27.12, lap 22 - 1:27.05, lap 23 - 1:26.67, lap 28 - 1:26.12, lap 29 - 1:26.07(!) Got greedy on the next lap(trying to get into 1:25's...1:34.xx - screwed up the jump. But, I was on a pace for a mid-1:25. In all, 13 out of 30 laps were UNDER my previous PB. Hmm - I wonder what would happen on a different track? Mexico - only 5 laps, each one was under my PB - dropped 1.63 seconds total. Rouen - ran about 5 or so laps - PB dropped 1.95 seconds total. Zandvoort(tempting fate) - dropped Lotus PB to 1:30.11, but my 1:29.73 in the Brabham stands. :( Discouraged(slightly), I quit GPL, to update my GPLRank handicap. But, I had another thought...hmm, do I *dare* try it? Start up GPL again - MONZA! My PB with the Lotus was 1:30.53, and a 1:30.17 in the Ferrari. Lap 1 (recon) 1:36.42 Lap 2 - 1:31.38 getting up to speed... Lap 3 - 1:30.31 PB with Lotus, but not enough, darnit. Maybe I was deluding myself... Lap 4 - 1:29.85(!) oh, SHIT! - did I read that right??? Lap 5 - 1:29.83 WTF, 2 in a ROW?!? I'm still in shock over breaking 1:30, and screw up the 2nd Lesmos Lap 6 - 1:30.13 - not bad after that brain fade...let's try one more... Lap 7 - 1:29.21!!!!! Lap 8 - out of gas....son of a... Ok, I can deal with that...<g> So, to recap - 5 tracks, 4 new PBs, lowered my handicap by almost 7 seconds, got under 1:30 at Monza! Not fucking bad, if I *do* say so myself... I *told* you guys that you'd hear about it if I got under 1:30 at Monza!!!!!!!!!!! Ok, I'm going to bed now. It's after midnight... Eldred - still smiling... :) -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +52.52 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
STOP IT.... otherwise I'll be back in the ST. Eldreds Cup in no time, and I was so proud when I left it a few weeks ago. Mikkel PS: Just shows that when you are stuck somewhere in life (or GPL), forget the problem for a while and come back with a new angle... At least thats always my excuse when I go for a few beers in the middle of some crisis :)
EldredP 03 Aug 2000#246028
In article <36di5.10170$[email hidden]>, "Kurt Steinbock" <[email hidden]> writes: >EldredP -- and the P stands for persistence! > >Congratulations, sir! You ARE left-foot braking now, right? > I'd like to thank Andre for pressuring me to left-foot brake, F1 2K for giving me a new sim to practice it in, Alison Hine for her Lotus setups. I'd also like to thank the distinguished members of the academy...<g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +52.52 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
EldredP 03 Aug 2000#246029
In article <8mbicf$i52$[email hidden]>, Richard G Clegg <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (9 lines)>: It looks like someone has been at the performance enhancing drugs :) , >: either that or all your practice is finally paying off. Congrats Eldred. >I >: guess I better revise my signature again! > > You see - I KNEW something was up once Eldred started to post to hot >lap sites. Before we know it we'll all be struggling to get a negative >St. Eldred rank and talking about chopping off more time at the ring so >we can be as good as Eldred.
But, are any of those times still up? I don't think so. I knew I'd get knocked out, but it was fun seeing my name there for a while...<g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +52.52 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
My man!! -Congrats!! Jan. =--- EldredP wrote... > I ran some laps tonight with the Lotus. > <snip> > I *told* you guys that you'd hear about it if I got > under 1:30 at Monza!!!!!!!!!!!
Brian Bowles 03 Aug 2000 05:13 UTC#245928
Congrats Eldred! You may not know me well but we have raced several times before. I have read your posts and I knew this day would come. Brian Bowles "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I ran some laps tonight with the Lotus. I started at Mosport - PB *was* > 1:29.32 in Ferrari. I ran about 30 laps. Turned a 1:32.xx first lap. Ranoff > 5 straight 1:30's. Shoot, maybe I'm just stuck here... Lap 7, 1:29.42.Ok, > not a record, but close. Lap 8, 1:29.29. New PB, but not by much. Let'stry > a different line in a couple turns - oops, 1:36.xx. Ok, calm down, keepit on > the track - 1:28.00. WOW!, big drop! Try getting on the gas sooner... > Assorted screwups...lap 14 - 1:27.12, lap 22 - 1:27.05, lap 23 - 1:26.67,lap > 28 - 1:26.12, lap 29 - 1:26.07(!) Got greedy on the next lap(trying toget > into 1:25's...1:34.xx - screwed up the jump. But, I was on a pace for a > mid-1:25. In all, 13 out of 30 laps were UNDER my previous PB. > Hmm - I wonder what would happen on a different track? Mexico - only 5laps, > each one was under my PB - dropped 1.63 seconds total. > Rouen - ran about 5 or so laps - PB dropped 1.95 seconds total. > Zandvoort(tempting fate) - dropped Lotus PB to 1:30.11, but my 1:29.73 inthe > Brabham stands. :( > Discouraged(slightly), I quit GPL, to update my GPLRank handicap. But, Ihad > another thought...hmm, do I *dare* try it? > > Start up GPL again - MONZA! My PB with the Lotus was 1:30.53, and a1:30.17 in > the Ferrari. > Lap 1 (recon) 1:36.42 > Lap 2 - 1:31.38 getting up to speed... > Lap 3 - 1:30.31 PB with Lotus, but not enough, darnit. Maybe I wasdeluding > myself... > Lap 4 - 1:29.85(!) oh, SHIT! - did I read that right??? > Lap 5 - 1:29.83 WTF, 2 in a ROW?!? I'm still in shock over breaking1:30, > and screw up the 2nd Lesmos > Lap 6 - 1:30.13 - not bad after that brain fade...let's try one more... > Lap 7 - 1:29.21!!!!! > Lap 8 - out of gas....son of a... Ok, I can deal with that...<g> > > So, to recap - 5 tracks, 4 new PBs, lowered my handicap by almost 7seconds,
Quoted text (14 lines)> got under 1:30 at Monza! > Not fucking bad, if I *do* say so myself... > > I *told* you guys that you'd hear about it if I got under 1:30 at > Monza!!!!!!!!!!! > Ok, I'm going to bed now. It's after midnight... > > Eldred - still smiling... :) > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +52.52 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats
you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Phil Lee 03 Aug 2000 08:49 UTC#246054
> > I *told* you guys that you'd hear about it if I got under 1:30 at > Monza!!!!!!!!!!! > Ok, I'm going to bed now. It's after midnight... > > Eldred - still smiling... :) It looks like someone has been at the performance enhancing drugs :) , either that or all your practice is finally paying off. Congrats Eldred. I guess I better revise my signature again! Cheers Phil -- F1 GPL Handicap: +62.32 secs F2 GPL Handicap: +149.51 secs St Eldred's Cup: +9.80 secs http://www.youpies.co.uk
Richard G Clegg 03 Aug 2000 10:43 UTC#245958
Phil Lee <[email hidden]> wrote: :> :> I *told* you guys that you'd hear about it if I got under 1:30 at :> Monza!!!!!!!!!!! :> Ok, I'm going to bed now. It's after midnight... :> :> Eldred - still smiling... :) : It looks like someone has been at the performance enhancing drugs :) , : either that or all your practice is finally paying off. Congrats Eldred. I : guess I better revise my signature again! You see - I KNEW something was up once Eldred started to post to hot lap sites. Before we know it we'll all be struggling to get a negative St. Eldred rank and talking about chopping off more time at the ring so we can be as good as Eldred. -- Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York UPDATED WWW: http://manor.york.ac.uk/
Kurt Steinbock 03 Aug 2000 11:56 UTC#245974
EldredP wrote in message <[email hidden]>... >I ran some laps tonight with the Lotus. I started at Mosport - PB *was* <major snippage> EldredP -- and the P stands for persistence! Congratulations, sir! You ARE left-foot braking now, right? Kurt
Ashley McConnell 03 Aug 2000 14:14 UTC#246007
"Phil Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Pt9i5.1932$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (9 lines)| > | > I *told* you guys that you'd hear about it if I got under 1:30 at | > Monza!!!!!!!!!!! | > Ok, I'm going to bed now. It's after midnight... | > | > Eldred - still smiling... :) | | | It looks like someone has been at the performance enhancing drugs :) ,
How are the guys at GPL rank going to account for that!!! ;) Random sampling is the only way to go! Ash :)
Ken MacKay 03 Aug 2000 14:17 UTC#246009
EldredP wrote: > I ran some laps tonight with the Lotus. I started at Mosport - PB *was* <snip> Congrats Eldred! I'm beginning to wish that Andre had never told you about that left foot! Damn.. I'm only faster than you at the Glen (and by a whole 0.2 sec). You'll soon have to come up with a new gig now that you're faster than the average GPL driver. And please let us know what you ate/drank/prayed to that day! :) -- Ken MacKay Halifax, Canada GPL Handicap +88.79
Goy Larsen 03 Aug 2000 15:07 UTC#246030
EldredP wrote: > > I'd like to thank Andre for pressuring me to left-foot brake, F1 2K for giving > me a new sim to practice it in, Alison Hine for her Lotus setups. I'd also > like to thank the distinguished members of the academy...<g> What, no sniffing, no tears and no mention of God ? Sheesh, you have a lot to learn Eldred :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com
Andre Warringa 03 Aug 2000 15:29 UTC#246036
On 03 Aug 2000 05:00:36 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: >I ran some laps tonight with the Lotus. I started at Mosport - PB *was* >1:29.32 in Ferrari. I ran about 30 laps. Turned a 1:32.xx first lap. Ran off<snip Eldred's succes story> /Me hugs Eldred Congrats man! See? Left foot braking does wonders! Andre
Rob Adams 03 Aug 2000 15:51 UTC#245846
Ok, now LISTEN! I'm off to get married this weekend which means no GPL for 5 whole days! If I return to find myself back in the St Eldred's Cup I shall be verrrry cross! I had a similar experience with Mosport - once you get in the rhythm the seconds just drop right off. Watch Greger's replay - I'm 4 seconds slower than him (of course) but I use his setup. I matched his shifts and my times improved a ton. p.s. Congrats, EP. Rob, GPL Rank 22.26 "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I ran some laps tonight with the Lotus. I started at Mosport - PB *was* > 1:29.32 in Ferrari. I ran about 30 laps. Turned a 1:32.xx first lap. Ranoff > 5 straight 1:30's. Shoot, maybe I'm just stuck here... Lap 7, 1:29.42.Ok, > not a record, but close. Lap 8, 1:29.29. New PB, but not by much. Let'stry > a different line in a couple turns - oops, 1:36.xx. Ok, calm down, keepit on > the track - 1:28.00. WOW!, big drop! Try getting on the gas sooner... > Assorted screwups...lap 14 - 1:27.12, lap 22 - 1:27.05, lap 23 - 1:26.67,lap > 28 - 1:26.12, lap 29 - 1:26.07(!) Got greedy on the next lap(trying toget > into 1:25's...1:34.xx - screwed up the jump. But, I was on a pace for a > mid-1:25. In all, 13 out of 30 laps were UNDER my previous PB. > Hmm - I wonder what would happen on a different track? Mexico - only 5laps, > each one was under my PB - dropped 1.63 seconds total. > Rouen - ran about 5 or so laps - PB dropped 1.95 seconds total. > Zandvoort(tempting fate) - dropped Lotus PB to 1:30.11, but my 1:29.73 inthe > Brabham stands. :( > Discouraged(slightly), I quit GPL, to update my GPLRank handicap. But, Ihad > another thought...hmm, do I *dare* try it? > > Start up GPL again - MONZA! My PB with the Lotus was 1:30.53, and a1:30.17 in > the Ferrari. > Lap 1 (recon) 1:36.42 > Lap 2 - 1:31.38 getting up to speed... > Lap 3 - 1:30.31 PB with Lotus, but not enough, darnit. Maybe I wasdeluding > myself... > Lap 4 - 1:29.85(!) oh, SHIT! - did I read that right??? > Lap 5 - 1:29.83 WTF, 2 in a ROW?!? I'm still in shock over breaking1:30, > and screw up the 2nd Lesmos > Lap 6 - 1:30.13 - not bad after that brain fade...let's try one more... > Lap 7 - 1:29.21!!!!! > Lap 8 - out of gas....son of a... Ok, I can deal with that...<g> > > So, to recap - 5 tracks, 4 new PBs, lowered my handicap by almost 7seconds,
Quoted text (14 lines)> got under 1:30 at Monza! > Not fucking bad, if I *do* say so myself... > > I *told* you guys that you'd hear about it if I got under 1:30 at > Monza!!!!!!!!!!! > Ok, I'm going to bed now. It's after midnight... > > Eldred - still smiling... :) > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +52.52 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats
you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Don Scurlock 03 Aug 2000 16:35 UTC#245856
[email hidden] (EldredP) wrote in <20000803010036.29305.00000866@ng- cj1.aol.com>: >Eldred - still smiling... :) >GPL hcp. +52.52 Congrats Eldred, you'll be smiling for a week. It's great isn't it? Progress in this game comes so hard it really feels like an acomplishment to move ahead in it. You've now beaten the time of one of the standard replays, Monza. It was also my first, and felt like such a break through. I thought "I can do this" and it really motivated me to go after the rest. Sub Zero is next Eldred, go for it! -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C. GPLRank -5.09 Come see how you rank, at the GPLRank site http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/
The Mighty Puck 03 Aug 2000 17:00 UTC#245863
How long did it take you to make the switch form right to left foot? I suppose I'm going to have to do the same <sigh> Chris "TheMIghtyPuck" H. (Chris@GPLRank-just a hair into double digits) On 03 Aug 2000 14:54:43 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote:
Quoted text (21 lines)>In article <36di5.10170$[email hidden]>, "Kurt >Steinbock" <[email hidden]> writes: > >>EldredP -- and the P stands for persistence! >> >>Congratulations, sir! You ARE left-foot braking now, right? >> > >I'd like to thank Andre for pressuring me to left-foot brake, F1 2K for giving >me a new sim to practice it in, Alison Hine for her Lotus setups. I'd also >like to thank the distinguished members of the academy...<g> > >Eldred >-- >Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 >Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett >GPL hcp. +52.52 > >Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you >with experience... >Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Richard G Clegg 03 Aug 2000 17:21 UTC#245869
Ashley McConnell <[email hidden]> wrote: : "Phil Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message : news:Pt9i5.1932$[email hidden]... : | > : | > I *told* you guys that you'd hear about it if I got under 1:30 at : | > Monza!!!!!!!!!!! : | > Ok, I'm going to bed now. It's after midnight... : | > : | > Eldred - still smiling... :) : | : | : | It looks like someone has been at the performance enhancing drugs :) , : How are the guys at GPL rank going to account for that!!! ;) : Random sampling is the only way to go! (Grin) Please download player.ini and urine_sample.ini. Now there's a realistic peripheral for sporting simulations that I bet nobody buys. -- Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York UPDATED WWW: http://manor.york.ac.uk/
Uncle Fester 03 Aug 2000 17:55 UTC#245877
EldredP wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)> So, to recap - 5 tracks, 4 new PBs, lowered my handicap by almost 7 seconds, > got under 1:30 at Monza! > Not fucking bad, if I *do* say so myself... > > I *told* you guys that you'd hear about it if I got under 1:30 at > Monza!!!!!!!!!!! > Ok, I'm going to bed now. It's after midnight...
Great job man!!!! I figured taking some time away would help. But, don't even *think* about going to bed until at least an hour's stint out at The Ring! You may just get into the negatives yet...<g> -- Chuck Kandler Windows is just a virus with a GUI
Karl Zosel 03 Aug 2000 18:08 UTC#245851
Just HOW did it? I keep struggling to get under 1.30 at Monza. What does the trick? EldredP <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws [email hidden]... > I ran some laps tonight with the Lotus. I started at Mosport - PB *was* > 1:29.32 in Ferrari. I ran about 30 laps. Turned a 1:32.xx first lap. Ranoff > 5 straight 1:30's. Shoot, maybe I'm just stuck here... Lap 7, 1:29.42.Ok, > not a record, but close. Lap 8, 1:29.29. New PB, but not by much. Let'stry > a different line in a couple turns - oops, 1:36.xx. Ok, calm down, keepit on > the track - 1:28.00. WOW!, big drop! Try getting on the gas sooner... > Assorted screwups...lap 14 - 1:27.12, lap 22 - 1:27.05, lap 23 - 1:26.67,lap > 28 - 1:26.12, lap 29 - 1:26.07(!) Got greedy on the next lap(trying toget > into 1:25's...1:34.xx - screwed up the jump. But, I was on a pace for a > mid-1:25. In all, 13 out of 30 laps were UNDER my previous PB. > Hmm - I wonder what would happen on a different track? Mexico - only 5laps, > each one was under my PB - dropped 1.63 seconds total. > Rouen - ran about 5 or so laps - PB dropped 1.95 seconds total. > Zandvoort(tempting fate) - dropped Lotus PB to 1:30.11, but my 1:29.73 inthe > Brabham stands. :( > Discouraged(slightly), I quit GPL, to update my GPLRank handicap. But, Ihad > another thought...hmm, do I *dare* try it? > > Start up GPL again - MONZA! My PB with the Lotus was 1:30.53, and a1:30.17 in > the Ferrari. > Lap 1 (recon) 1:36.42 > Lap 2 - 1:31.38 getting up to speed... > Lap 3 - 1:30.31 PB with Lotus, but not enough, darnit. Maybe I wasdeluding > myself... > Lap 4 - 1:29.85(!) oh, SHIT! - did I read that right??? > Lap 5 - 1:29.83 WTF, 2 in a ROW?!? I'm still in shock over breaking1:30, > and screw up the 2nd Lesmos > Lap 6 - 1:30.13 - not bad after that brain fade...let's try one more... > Lap 7 - 1:29.21!!!!! > Lap 8 - out of gas....son of a... Ok, I can deal with that...<g> > > So, to recap - 5 tracks, 4 new PBs, lowered my handicap by almost 7seconds,
Quoted text (14 lines)> got under 1:30 at Monza! > Not fucking bad, if I *do* say so myself... > > I *told* you guys that you'd hear about it if I got under 1:30 at > Monza!!!!!!!!!!! > Ok, I'm going to bed now. It's after midnight... > > Eldred - still smiling... :) > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +52.52 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats
you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Mark Mooney 03 Aug 2000 18:42 UTC#245789
Rockin' Good on ya! MM EldredP wrote:
Quoted text (48 lines)> I ran some laps tonight with the Lotus. I started at Mosport - PB *was* > 1:29.32 in Ferrari. I ran about 30 laps. Turned a 1:32.xx first lap. Ran off > 5 straight 1:30's. Shoot, maybe I'm just stuck here... Lap 7, 1:29.42. Ok, > not a record, but close. Lap 8, 1:29.29. New PB, but not by much. Let's try > a different line in a couple turns - oops, 1:36.xx. Ok, calm down, keep it on > the track - 1:28.00. WOW!, big drop! Try getting on the gas sooner... > Assorted screwups...lap 14 - 1:27.12, lap 22 - 1:27.05, lap 23 - 1:26.67, lap > 28 - 1:26.12, lap 29 - 1:26.07(!) Got greedy on the next lap(trying to get > into 1:25's...1:34.xx - screwed up the jump. But, I was on a pace for a > mid-1:25. In all, 13 out of 30 laps were UNDER my previous PB. > Hmm - I wonder what would happen on a different track? Mexico - only 5 laps, > each one was under my PB - dropped 1.63 seconds total. > Rouen - ran about 5 or so laps - PB dropped 1.95 seconds total. > Zandvoort(tempting fate) - dropped Lotus PB to 1:30.11, but my 1:29.73 in the > Brabham stands. :( > Discouraged(slightly), I quit GPL, to update my GPLRank handicap. But, I had > another thought...hmm, do I *dare* try it? > > Start up GPL again - MONZA! My PB with the Lotus was 1:30.53, and a 1:30.17 in > the Ferrari. > Lap 1 (recon) 1:36.42 > Lap 2 - 1:31.38 getting up to speed... > Lap 3 - 1:30.31 PB with Lotus, but not enough, darnit. Maybe I was deluding > myself... > Lap 4 - 1:29.85(!) oh, SHIT! - did I read that right??? > Lap 5 - 1:29.83 WTF, 2 in a ROW?!? I'm still in shock over breaking 1:30, > and screw up the 2nd Lesmos > Lap 6 - 1:30.13 - not bad after that brain fade...let's try one more... > Lap 7 - 1:29.21!!!!! > Lap 8 - out of gas....son of a... Ok, I can deal with that...<g> > > So, to recap - 5 tracks, 4 new PBs, lowered my handicap by almost 7 seconds, > got under 1:30 at Monza! > Not fucking bad, if I *do* say so myself... > > I *told* you guys that you'd hear about it if I got under 1:30 at > Monza!!!!!!!!!!! > Ok, I'm going to bed now. It's after midnight... > > Eldred - still smiling... :) > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +52.52 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Roger Squires 03 Aug 2000 18:42 UTC#245791
Eldred: please bear in mind that my Mosport time is still much lower than yours, and be humble. Peace. rms [email hidden]
argh! 03 Aug 2000 19:40 UTC#245810
EldredP wrote : > So, to recap - 5 tracks, 4 new PBs, lowered my handicap by almost 7seconds, > got under 1:30 at Monza! > Not fucking bad, if I *do* say so myself... > Now that's progress! Nice goin'. After reading this, I just had to improve on some track, and Mexico was kind enough to give me a new pb! (just over half a second). And still, "I feel the need... the need for speed!" (Ok. Old, but still !) -- Jyrki Laine ; GPLRank -1.83 <-- (No electrons were harmed in production of this message) -->
Robin MacMahon 03 Aug 2000 22:22 UTC#245693
Okay, now I'm really choked!!! Granted I've only owned GPL for 3 weeks (I know, I know...) but I thought I was making great progress at Monza by turning laps in the mid 1:31's all the time utilizing left foot braking. I have always used my left foot to brake while simming due to some experience rallying (sp?) in a little Ford Cortina in the early 80's. So... just when I'm feeling good about myself... along comes Eldred and decides to "try" left footing it and BAM!!!, he's under 1:30!!! I think I hate you, Eldred. Robin MacMahon -- Robin is Racin' -- "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... --snip-- > >Congratulations, sir! You ARE left-foot braking now, right? > > > > I'd like to thank Andre for pressuring me to left-foot brake, F1 2K forgiving > me a new sim to practice it in, Alison Hine for her Lotus setups. I'dalso
Quoted text (9 lines)> like to thank the distinguished members of the academy...<g> > > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +52.52 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats
you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
?ke Larsson 03 Aug 2000 22:42 UTC#245821
After reading this, and seing that you had beaten the only half-decent PB that I had, (Monza, 1:29.46) I just had to have another go at it. First run: 11 laps, most below 1:30, but no records. Second run gave a 1:29.22 on the last lap, new PB! Wow, i'm on to something here! Third run, 11 laps of gas again. Lots of mistakes, trying too hard. Going through Parabolica fuel pressure needle starts falling, last chance, focus, focus! My back is getting wet and my eyes are tiring. Manages to finish without any stupid moves and exits to see the times. And what do I see? Lap 11: 1:28.92!! After all those laps it took to get below 1:30 I never EVER expected to go below 1:29. Credits: Inspiration by Eldred Setups by Huttu �ke L, permanent resident in St Eldred's cup. Gplrank: 76,47 "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I ran some laps tonight with the Lotus. I started at Mosport - PB *was* > 1:29.32 in Ferrari. I ran about 30 laps. Turned a 1:32.xx first lap. Ranoff > 5 straight 1:30's. Shoot, maybe I'm just stuck here... Lap 7, 1:29.42.Ok, > not a record, but close. Lap 8, 1:29.29. New PB, but not by much. Let'stry > a different line in a couple turns - oops, 1:36.xx. Ok, calm down, keepit on > the track - 1:28.00. WOW!, big drop! Try getting on the gas sooner... > Assorted screwups...lap 14 - 1:27.12, lap 22 - 1:27.05, lap 23 - 1:26.67,lap > 28 - 1:26.12, lap 29 - 1:26.07(!) Got greedy on the next lap(trying toget > into 1:25's...1:34.xx - screwed up the jump. But, I was on a pace for a > mid-1:25. In all, 13 out of 30 laps were UNDER my previous PB. > Hmm - I wonder what would happen on a different track? Mexico - only 5laps, > each one was under my PB - dropped 1.63 seconds total. > Rouen - ran about 5 or so laps - PB dropped 1.95 seconds total. > Zandvoort(tempting fate) - dropped Lotus PB to 1:30.11, but my 1:29.73 inthe > Brabham stands. :( > Discouraged(slightly), I quit GPL, to update my GPLRank handicap. But, Ihad > another thought...hmm, do I *dare* try it? > > Start up GPL again - MONZA! My PB with the Lotus was 1:30.53, and a1:30.17 in > the Ferrari. > Lap 1 (recon) 1:36.42 > Lap 2 - 1:31.38 getting up to speed... > Lap 3 - 1:30.31 PB with Lotus, but not enough, darnit. Maybe I wasdeluding > myself... > Lap 4 - 1:29.85(!) oh, SHIT! - did I read that right??? > Lap 5 - 1:29.83 WTF, 2 in a ROW?!? I'm still in shock over breaking1:30, > and screw up the 2nd Lesmos > Lap 6 - 1:30.13 - not bad after that brain fade...let's try one more... > Lap 7 - 1:29.21!!!!! > Lap 8 - out of gas....son of a... Ok, I can deal with that...<g> > > So, to recap - 5 tracks, 4 new PBs, lowered my handicap by almost 7seconds,
Quoted text (14 lines)> got under 1:30 at Monza! > Not fucking bad, if I *do* say so myself... > > I *told* you guys that you'd hear about it if I got under 1:30 at > Monza!!!!!!!!!!! > Ok, I'm going to bed now. It's after midnight... > > Eldred - still smiling... :) > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +52.52 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats
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Uncle Fester 03 Aug 2000 23:13 UTC#245715
EldredP wrote: > An hour at the Ring? What are you, a sadist? :) No... you're just on a *roll*!! -- Chuck Kandler Windows is just a virus with a GUI
The Mighty Puck 03 Aug 2000 23:43 UTC#245726
Thanks for responding (being a celebrity and all :-)) Now i'm thinking i should pick up F1-2k instead of gp3. Gotta work on the left foot stuff. I think i'm going to do what you did as I've got a good setup (ch-pedals) and am instead using my lwff with a squash ball. What do you think of f1-2k? What's a good price for it? I'm always pissed off at GPL but I think a combination of track knowledge and left foot braking could catapult me up the charts? BTW I'm still ahead of you at Spa :-P Chris@GPLRank Chris "TheMightyPuck" Hansen everywhere else. On 03 Aug 2000 23:01:13 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote:
Quoted text (23 lines)>In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] >writes: > >>How long did it take you to make the switch form right to left foot? I >>suppose I'm going to have to do the same <sigh> > >When I first tried it in GPL, I could only do it at Monza. That's where the >1:30.53 came from. When I tried it recently, I couldn't stay on the track. >Then I got F1 2K from Ebay. I tried it in that sim(I was pissed at GPL). I >figured - EVERYTHING is new, so it couldn't hurt. After I came back to GPL, it >didn't seem so hard then...<shrug> >I'd say switching braking gained me about a second or so on each track. The >leaps I took last night must have been due to the Lotus - HAD to be. > >Eldred >-- >Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 >Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett >GPL hcp. +52.52 > >Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you >with experience... >Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
EldredP 04 Aug 2000#245662
Well, excuse me for thinking I had actually figured something OUT... I tried some more tracks tonight with the Lotus, and I couldn't re-create the 'zone' I was in last night. I ran Silverstone, Monaco, Watkins Glen, and Nurburgring. At the Glen I lowered my PB for the Lotus by .32, but my Ferrari time is still better. At the other tracks, I couldn't even get CLOSE...<sigh> I had a 'clean' lap at the Ring that was still 10 seconds SLOWER than my PB. Oh well, it couldn't last *forever*. Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +52.52 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
EldredP 04 Aug 2000#245663
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Jeff Vincent) writes: >>Eldred - still smiling... :) > > I'll have whatever he's drinking <pointing to grinning idiot> :) > > Good work, Eldred. (And thanks for the dedicated server!) You're welcome! Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +52.52 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
EldredP 04 Aug 2000#245664
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] writes:
Quoted text (8 lines)>Thanks for responding (being a celebrity and all :-)) Now i'm thinking >i should pick up F1-2k instead of gp3. Gotta work on the left foot >stuff. I think i'm going to do what you did as I've got a good setup >(ch-pedals) and am instead using my lwff with a squash ball. What do >you think of f1-2k? What's a good price for it? I'm always pissed off >at GPL but I think a combination of track knowledge and left foot >braking could catapult me up the charts? BTW I'm still ahead of you at >Spa :-P
I think I paid $19 or $20 for F1 2K, including shipping. I refuse to comment about Spa...<g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +52.52 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
On 03 Aug 2000 05:00:36 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote:
Quoted text (9 lines)>So, to recap - 5 tracks, 4 new PBs, lowered my handicap by almost 7 seconds, >got under 1:30 at Monza! >Not fucking bad, if I *do* say so myself... > >I *told* you guys that you'd hear about it if I got under 1:30 at >Monza!!!!!!!!!!! >Ok, I'm going to bed now. It's after midnight... > >Eldred - still smiling... :)
I'll have whatever he's drinking <pointing to grinning idiot> :) Good work, Eldred. (And thanks for the dedicated server!) "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark
Jim Allison 04 Aug 2000 02:12 UTC#245780
Oh oh, I really must get cracking on that Nurburgring. This will never do! :-) (65.36) Bloody marvelous Eldred!! You da man!!! EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I ran some laps tonight with the Lotus. I started at Mosport - PB *was* > 1:29.32 in Ferrari. I ran about 30 laps. Turned a 1:32.xx first lap. Ranoff > 5 straight 1:30's. Shoot, maybe I'm just stuck here... Lap 7, 1:29.42.Ok, > not a record, but close. Lap 8, 1:29.29. New PB, but not by much. Let'stry > a different line in a couple turns - oops, 1:36.xx. Ok, calm down, keepit on > the track - 1:28.00. WOW!, big drop! Try getting on the gas sooner... > Assorted screwups...lap 14 - 1:27.12, lap 22 - 1:27.05, lap 23 - 1:26.67,lap > 28 - 1:26.12, lap 29 - 1:26.07(!) Got greedy on the next lap(trying toget > into 1:25's...1:34.xx - screwed up the jump. But, I was on a pace for a > mid-1:25. In all, 13 out of 30 laps were UNDER my previous PB. > Hmm - I wonder what would happen on a different track? Mexico - only 5laps, > each one was under my PB - dropped 1.63 seconds total. > Rouen - ran about 5 or so laps - PB dropped 1.95 seconds total. > Zandvoort(tempting fate) - dropped Lotus PB to 1:30.11, but my 1:29.73 inthe > Brabham stands. :( > Discouraged(slightly), I quit GPL, to update my GPLRank handicap. But, Ihad > another thought...hmm, do I *dare* try it? > > Start up GPL again - MONZA! My PB with the Lotus was 1:30.53, and a1:30.17 in > the Ferrari. > Lap 1 (recon) 1:36.42 > Lap 2 - 1:31.38 getting up to speed... > Lap 3 - 1:30.31 PB with Lotus, but not enough, darnit. Maybe I wasdeluding > myself... > Lap 4 - 1:29.85(!) oh, SHIT! - did I read that right??? > Lap 5 - 1:29.83 WTF, 2 in a ROW?!? I'm still in shock over breaking1:30, > and screw up the 2nd Lesmos > Lap 6 - 1:30.13 - not bad after that brain fade...let's try one more... > Lap 7 - 1:29.21!!!!! > Lap 8 - out of gas....son of a... Ok, I can deal with that...<g> > > So, to recap - 5 tracks, 4 new PBs, lowered my handicap by almost 7seconds,
Quoted text (14 lines)> got under 1:30 at Monza! > Not fucking bad, if I *do* say so myself... > > I *told* you guys that you'd hear about it if I got under 1:30 at > Monza!!!!!!!!!!! > Ok, I'm going to bed now. It's after midnight... > > Eldred - still smiling... :) > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +52.52 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats
you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Gary Stephenson 04 Aug 2000 07:31 UTC#245682
EldredP wrote: > Hey, there's no crying in racing!!! Well, except for Mika and Rubens... :) Please don't forget Roberto Moreno! > ...And I'm an atheist...<g> Me too Gary GPL hcp. +one_bazillion_gazillion (and eating lots of Wonka bars to get that handicap down!)
Gary Stephenson 04 Aug 2000 07:38 UTC#245685
EldredP wrote: > I'd say switching braking gained me about a second or so on each track. The > leaps I took last night must have been due to the Lotus - HAD to be. Let all of us backmarkers thank David Buttery! I believe he was the one who encouraged Eldred to try the Lotus. Thanks David...not! Gary
Robin MacMahon 04 Aug 2000 07:40 UTC#245686
So, you were channeling Clark? Robin --Robin is Racin'-- "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Well, excuse me for thinking I had actually figured something OUT... Itried > some more tracks tonight with the Lotus, and I couldn't re-create the'zone' I > was in last night. I ran Silverstone, Monaco, Watkins Glen, andNurburgring. > At the Glen I lowered my PB for the Lotus by .32, but my Ferrari time isstill
Quoted text (11 lines)> better. At the other tracks, I couldn't even get CLOSE...<sigh> I had a > 'clean' lap at the Ring that was still 10 seconds SLOWER than my PB. > Oh well, it couldn't last *forever*. > > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +52.52 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats
you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Steve Garrotto 04 Aug 2000 15:14 UTC#245532
It is odd I have done this type of 'Revelation' driving twice now. It is like I am in a certain mode and I can dump a second or two at a track. Come to think of it I think it happens when I return to the Lotus after driving another car. Hmmm, maybe by pushing myself in a slower car I set my self up for better laps in the Lotus? Who knows, last night I did PBs at Monza, Mexico, Spa, and Mosport. It is also when I have a night like this that I know that I am just not spending enough time wth GPL. The other odd thing is that I tend to be able to only race for a short amount of time before my I just can not drive at a track any more that night. Happened at Spa last night. I was online racing Spa and the last race just went to (*&#, so I was done for the night. SLG +138.69 [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote:
Quoted text (17 lines)>Well, excuse me for thinking I had actually figured something OUT... I tried >some more tracks tonight with the Lotus, and I couldn't re-create the 'zone' I >was in last night. I ran Silverstone, Monaco, Watkins Glen, and Nurburgring. >At the Glen I lowered my PB for the Lotus by .32, but my Ferrari time is still >better. At the other tracks, I couldn't even get CLOSE...<sigh> I had a >'clean' lap at the Ring that was still 10 seconds SLOWER than my PB. >Oh well, it couldn't last *forever*. > >Eldred >-- >Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 >Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett >GPL hcp. +52.52 > >Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you >with experience... >Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
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Jon Andersen 04 Aug 2000 20:30 UTC#245477
> Well, excuse me for thinking I had actually figured something OUT... Itried > some more tracks tonight with the Lotus, and I couldn't re-create the'zone' I > was in last night. I ran Silverstone, Monaco, Watkins Glen, andNurburgring. > At the Glen I lowered my PB for the Lotus by .32, but my Ferrari time isstill > better. At the other tracks, I couldn't even get CLOSE...<sigh> I had a > 'clean' lap at the Ring that was still 10 seconds SLOWER than my PB. > Oh well, it couldn't last *forever*. > > Eldred From what I've read, you recently converted to left foot braking (at last). One of the advantages of left foot braking, is that you can stabilize the car during braking by applying some throttle. When you where in the "zone" you probably unconciously did that. Once you master this technique, trailbraking isn't as hard as it used to be. Thus even lower lap times. Keep om GPL-ing. But watch out: If you get too good, your celebrety status as the benchmark backmarker will be lost. One good lap at the Ring, and your reputation is lost. <g> Jon Andersen
EldredP 05 Aug 2000#245021
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (David Buttery) writes:
Quoted text (13 lines)>On Fri 04 Aug 2000 07:37:25pm, Jon Andersen wrote: > ><snip> >>One of the advantages of left foot braking, is that you can >>stabilize the car during braking by applying some throttle. When you >>where in the "zone" you probably unconciously did that. Once you >>master this technique, trailbraking isn't as hard as it used to be. >>Thus even lower lap times. ><snip> > >I honestly cannot understand how people can get any sort of good tiems >with right-foot braking in GPL. I wouldn't be even close to my current >times at a place like Spa if I did it.
I'd say that switching to left-foot braking only gained me about a second(accumulated time savings from not having to move my foot from gas to brake). The big gains the other night were from driving the Lotus. Actually, maybe not, because I can't do it on the other tracks I didn't TRY then.... Eldred - still looking for the magic bullet -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +52.52 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
EldredP 05 Aug 2000#245022
In article <NYDi5.1321$[email hidden]>, "Jon Andersen" <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (20 lines)>> Well, excuse me for thinking I had actually figured something OUT... I >tried >> some more tracks tonight with the Lotus, and I couldn't re-create the >'zone' I >> was in last night. I ran Silverstone, Monaco, Watkins Glen, and >Nurburgring. >> At the Glen I lowered my PB for the Lotus by .32, but my Ferrari time is >still >> better. At the other tracks, I couldn't even get CLOSE...<sigh> I had a >> 'clean' lap at the Ring that was still 10 seconds SLOWER than my PB. >> Oh well, it couldn't last *forever*. >> >> Eldred > >From what I've read, you recently converted to left foot braking (at last). >One of the advantages of left foot braking, is that you can stabilize the >car during braking by applying some throttle. When you where in the "zone" >you probably unconciously did that. Once you master this technique, >trailbraking isn't as hard as it used to be. Thus even lower lap times. >
Well, I'd sure like to know how to get BACK in the zone. Someone's locked me out! :) >Keep om GPL-ing. But watch out: If you get too good, your celebrety status >as the benchmark backmarker will be lost. One good lap at the Ring, and your >reputation is lost. <g> Being a backmarker is a GOOD thing? I'm still ranked at 500-something. I'm trying to STOP being a 'King Hiro - celebrity be damned...<g> -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +52.52 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I'd say that switching to left-foot braking only gained me about a > second(accumulated time savings from not having to move my foot from gasto > brake). The big gains the other night were from driving the Lotus.Actually, I think you're a little bit wrong there. In time, you'll get smoother going from brake to gas and back, and find that you can handle just a little more speed through some corners. I'm guessing this is what happened to allow the Lotus to suddenly gain wickedly. Michael.
On Fri 04 Aug 2000 07:37:25pm, Jon Andersen wrote: <snip> >One of the advantages of left foot braking, is that you can >stabilize the car during braking by applying some throttle. When you >where in the "zone" you probably unconciously did that. Once you >master this technique, trailbraking isn't as hard as it used to be. >Thus even lower lap times. <snip> I honestly cannot understand how people can get any sort of good tiems with right-foot braking in GPL. I wouldn't be even close to my current times at a place like Spa if I did it. You have to try not to associate "driving GPL" with "driving a road car". Think of it as a "ground-based flight sim". Once you do that, then you'll stop trying to handle it like a Ford Escort... in any case, you only have to worry about two pedals here, whereas most road cars have three (in Europe, anyway), so that's one difference to start with. -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.12) "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)
Uwe Schuerkamp 05 Aug 2000 03:24 UTC#245386
In article <Wb7i5.89627$[email hidden]>, Brian Bowles <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (8 lines)>Congrats Eldred! You may not know me well but we have raced several times >before. I have read your posts and I knew this day would come. >Brian Bowles >"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> I ran some laps tonight with the Lotus. I started at Mosport - PB *was* >> 1:29.32 in Ferrari. I ran about 30 laps. Turned a 1:32.xx first lap. Ran >off
I predict the St. eldred trophy will become a very rapidly moving target over the next couple of weeks, you might actually find yourself in it ;-) enjoy, uwe -- Uwe Schuerkamp http://www.schuerkamp.de/ GnuPG Fingerprint: 2093 20B8 B861 9358 A356 B01A E145 9249 5D27 33EA PGP Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

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