I'm no computer Guru, but I've encountered this problem a couple of times
before. I don't know what causes it, but I've been able to solve it most of
the time by one of these three possible workarounds (in order)...
1) uninstalling CD-Roms from the device manager. Shut down PC, unplug
CD-roms, let PC start up completely without, shut down again, re-plug
CD-Roms and let Windows detect them again, possibly overwriting newer
drivers with the ones from install CD.
2) reinstalling IDE drivers for motherboard / switching to "standard IDE
controller" then back to propriety driver.
3) installing a real mode driver for the CD-Roms (in config.sys). Mitsumi
ATAPI driver seems to work for most models.
Good luck,
Jan.
=---
Colin Harris wrote...
> Calling all computer gurus, please...<Snip>
Calling all computer gurus, please...
The problem I'm now recently having is this: Games will no longer install
from my CD. I can't even copy major files from CD to HD anymore. An example
is, say, a bud sent me the SCGT Service pack on CD. I can't unzip from the
CD, nor can I copy it to my HD. Freezes every time. Trying to install, or
reinstall a game causes freezes every time, can't copy the files over
manually either for the same reason.
Diagnostic: CD Rom light flashes, HDD doesn't, suggesting no HD activity.
Freezes occur in random places.
Steps taken to remedy: Scandisk, defrag, SiSoft Sandra, Fix-It,virus check
all report no problems.
Attempted workaround: Tried using second CDRom drive (a burner), same
results.
My first guess was my HD (It has a few bad sectors), but all reports say
it's fine. It would be amazing if both CDRom drives got hit with the same
affliction, and even more coincidental if the 5 CDs I have all are corrupt.
Where should I be looking? My next guess is the cabling, but if anyone else
has ideas I'd truly appreciate it.
Note: 128Mb RAM, C: drive 36% free, no conflicts in sys mgr.
Thank you for taking the time...
--
Colin Harris
ColinHarris in N3/NL and VROC
Bomber Racing: http://fullspeed.to/Bomber
ICQ 25485061
One other thing to note: I copied an entire games folder from one part of my
HD to another, with success, so it's officially not the HD that's the
problem, but something going wrong between the CDRom and HD. Still looks
like cabling, but is there anything else?
--
Colin Harris
ColinHarris in N3/NL and VROC
Bomber Racing: http://fullspeed.to/Bomber
ICQ 25485061
Colin Harris <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:XClk5.22167$[email hidden]...
> Calling all computer gurus, please...
> The problem I'm now recently having is this: Games will no longer install
> from my CD. I can't even copy major files from CD to HD anymore. An
example
> is, say, a bud sent me the SCGT Service pack on CD. I can't unzip from the
> CD, nor can I copy it to my HD. Freezes every time. Trying to install, or
> reinstall a game causes freezes every time, can't copy the files over
> manually either for the same reason.
> Diagnostic: CD Rom light flashes, HDD doesn't, suggesting no HD activity.
> Freezes occur in random places.
> Steps taken to remedy: Scandisk, defrag, SiSoft Sandra, Fix-It,virus
check
> all report no problems.
> Attempted workaround: Tried using second CDRom drive (a burner), same
> results.
> My first guess was my HD (It has a few bad sectors), but all reports say
> it's fine. It would be amazing if both CDRom drives got hit with the same
> affliction, and even more coincidental if the 5 CDs I have all are
corrupt.
> Where should I be looking? My next guess is the cabling, but if anyone
else
> has ideas I'd truly appreciate it.
> Note: 128Mb RAM, C: drive 36% free, no conflicts in sys mgr.
>
> Thank you for taking the time...
>
> --
>
> Colin Harris
> ColinHarris in N3/NL and VROC
>
> Bomber Racing: http://fullspeed.to/Bomber
> ICQ 25485061
>
>
>
Jan, a thousand thank you's. I'll try each suggestion when I've calmed down
a bit. I'm not entirely certain how to do steps 2 and 3, but I can find that
on the net. Again, thanks.
Any other suggestions, guys?
--
Colin Harris
ColinHarris in N3/NL and VROC
Bomber Racing: http://fullspeed.to/Bomber
ICQ 25485061
Jan Verschueren <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> I'm no computer Guru, but I've encountered this problem a couple of times
> before. I don't know what causes it, but I've been able to solve it most
of
> the time by one of these three possible workarounds (in order)...
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 00:14:23 GMT, "Colin Harris"
<[email hidden]> thus spoke:
>Any other suggestions, guys?
Yes, boot your computer with the startup disk and load the dos cdrom
drivers. Now use the copy command to copy the files from cd to hd.
This will determine if you have a hard ware problem or if it's a
windows driver problem.
--
Nos
Great stuff, Nos, I think.....
I can copy over in DOS. Guess that rules the cabling out, then, so what's
the remedy? Windows reinstall?
--
Colin Harris
ColinHarris in N3/NL and VROC
Bomber Racing: http://fullspeed.to/Bomber
ICQ 25485061
<[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 00:14:23 GMT, "Colin Harris"
> <[email hidden]> thus spoke:
>
>
> >Any other suggestions, guys?
>
> Yes, boot your computer with the startup disk and load the dos cdrom
> drivers. Now use the copy command to copy the files from cd to hd.
> This will determine if you have a hard ware problem or if it's a
> windows driver problem.
> --
> Nos
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 02:48:07 GMT, "Colin Harris"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>Great stuff, Nos, I think.....
> I can copy over in DOS. Guess that rules the cabling out, then, so what's
>the remedy? Windows reinstall?
Before you get too carried away, make sure your settings in device
manager for DMA and 'sync transfer' on the cd drives are not awry.
Try setting both drives to non-dma, no sync and kill the auto-insert
notification. The sync setting in particular can cause hang ups like
you describe.
Running real-mode drivers on boot-up is pointless in windows because
windows will override them with the windows drivers even if they are
screwed up.
>>>1) uninstalling CD-Roms from the device manager. Shut down PC, unplugCD-roms, let PC start up completely without, shut down again, re-plug
CD-Roms and let Windows detect them again, possibly overwriting newer
drivers with the ones from install CD.
This is very good advice, except ATAPI (ide) CD-ROMS don't really need
drivers at all in Win9*. Just remove the drives in device manager,
shut down and disconnect them, reboot a couple times, then hook them
back up.
You also might try killing off any and all monitoring-type software
(virus, crash-interceptors, etc.) and see if that helps any. ANy
software that has to look at every single bit of data that goes by not
only slows things down, but increases the chance of it "losing its
way."
~daxe
Daxe, Nos, Jan, my first three kids will be named after the three of you.
It's looking like it was the DMA checkbox that was the culprit. Games now
install from my main CD Rom, or at least the one I was having most problems
with did, but I still get a freeze with the CD Burner. I'll take that!
Thank you so very much.
--
Colin Harris
ColinHarris in N3/NL and VROC
Bomber Racing: http://fullspeed.to/Bomber
ICQ 25485061
daxe <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 02:48:07 GMT, "Colin Harris"
> <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> >Great stuff, Nos, I think.....
> > I can copy over in DOS. Guess that rules the cabling out, then, so
what's
> >the remedy? Windows reinstall?
>
>
> Before you get too carried away, make sure your settings in device
> manager for DMA and 'sync transfer' on the cd drives are not awry.
> Try setting both drives to non-dma, no sync and kill the auto-insert
> notification. The sync setting in particular can cause hang ups like
> you describe.
>
> Running real-mode drivers on boot-up is pointless in windows because
> windows will override them with the windows drivers even if they are
> screwed up.
>
> >>>1) uninstalling CD-Roms from the device manager. Shut down PC, unplug
> CD-roms, let PC start up completely without, shut down again, re-plug
> CD-Roms and let Windows detect them again, possibly overwriting newer
> drivers with the ones from install CD.
>
> This is very good advice, except ATAPI (ide) CD-ROMS don't really need
> drivers at all in Win9*. Just remove the drives in device manager,
> shut down and disconnect them, reboot a couple times, then hook them
> back up.
>
> You also might try killing off any and all monitoring-type software
> (virus, crash-interceptors, etc.) and see if that helps any. ANy
> software that has to look at every single bit of data that goes by not
> only slows things down, but increases the chance of it "losing its
> way."
>
> ~daxe
Update: The main CD drive now works, but not every time. I get a freeze same
as before when installing or reinstalling, but if I turn the compy off and
on and try again, it seems to go in, but slower. At least it goes in,
though...does that sound like anything anyone's heard of?
--
Colin Harris
ColinHarris in N3/NL and VROC
Bomber Racing: http://fullspeed.to/Bomber
ICQ 25485061
>
> daxe <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
> > On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 02:48:07 GMT, "Colin Harris"
> > <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >
> > >Great stuff, Nos, I think.....
> > > I can copy over in DOS. Guess that rules the cabling out, then, so
> what's
> > >the remedy? Windows reinstall?
> >
> >
> > Before you get too carried away, make sure your settings in device
> > manager for DMA and 'sync transfer' on the cd drives are not awry.
> > Try setting both drives to non-dma, no sync and kill the auto-insert
> > notification. The sync setting in particular can cause hang ups like
> > you describe.
> >
> > Running real-mode drivers on boot-up is pointless in windows because
> > windows will override them with the windows drivers even if they are
> > screwed up.
> >
> > >>>1) uninstalling CD-Roms from the device manager. Shut down PC, unplug
> > CD-roms, let PC start up completely without, shut down again, re-plug
> > CD-Roms and let Windows detect them again, possibly overwriting newer
> > drivers with the ones from install CD.
> >
> > This is very good advice, except ATAPI (ide) CD-ROMS don't really need
> > drivers at all in Win9*. Just remove the drives in device manager,
> > shut down and disconnect them, reboot a couple times, then hook them
> > back up.
> >
> > You also might try killing off any and all monitoring-type software
> > (virus, crash-interceptors, etc.) and see if that helps any. ANy
> > software that has to look at every single bit of data that goes by not
> > only slows things down, but increases the chance of it "losing its
> > way."
> >
> > ~daxe
>
>
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 14:17:28 GMT, "Colin Harris"
<[email hidden]> thus spoke:
>Update: The main CD drive now works, but not every time. I get a freeze same
>as before when installing or reinstalling, but if I turn the compy off and
>on and try again, it seems to go in, but slower. At least it goes in,
>though...does that sound like anything anyone's heard of?
In the bios what mode is your cdrom set to? If it is set to mode4 or
UDMA try setting it to mode3. I had a problem with one cdrom giving me
a corrupt file and that was how I fixed it.
--
Nos
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 04:34:26 GMT, daxe <[email hidden]>
thus spoke:
>Running real-mode drivers on boot-up is pointless in windows because
>windows will override them with the windows drivers even if they are
>screwed up.
Running real mode drivers in windows is a bad thing anyway. But, if
you put real mode drivers in the config.sys then they override windows
drivers, not the other way around.
--
Nos
