Re: The Bandwagon

In article <EnCk5.626508$k22.2916405@flipper>, "HJ Ventura" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > No criticism here, there are very few games available of the GPseries > > calibre (GP2 was and is awesome, GP3 is awesome) and also GPL is avery > good > > game (I just got it today ;-) so I can't slam you at all, all theother gp > > games I've played are far too easy and arcade-like which spoils it,and > > makes it boring. > > Just one question. No criticism also. But did you ever try F1 2000 ?? > I dont say GP3 is nothing, but i didnt see you were mentioning F12000 (its > definitly not an arcade game...). > Maybe you should try it once (ofcourse if you got a fast computer,because, > yes, it needs a faster PC than GP3) I keep hearing this, but how come I can get F12K to run at acceptable frame rates with decent-looking graphics on my AMD K6-2 400 with 64 MB of RAM and a 16 MB Voodoo Banshee card, yet I can't get GP3 to even hobble along with anything that even resembles a decent frame rate without cranking the graphics back to what appears to be SVGA-level graphics? I am not an eye candy nut, and if the driving model in GP3 felt halfway decent, I wouldn't mind the low-rent graphics, but the physics model doesn't justify the heavy processor demand, IMO. In short, how come F12K runs/looks okay on my system, while GP3 runs/looks like crap? I seem to be the exception to the rule here, compared to everyone else (and, yes, I have seen GP3 run in software mode on a Pentium Pro system, and it looked okay there, but I'm disappointed on my own system). -- JB Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Well, as the owner of GP3, F1 World Grand Prix, and F1 2000, I'm going to have to say that I like GP3 the best. Now I know there are lot's of folks who disagree with me and I can understand everyone's opinions on the matter also. This is just my 2 cents worth on why I like GP3 the best. Primarily because I can run it at 800x600 and 1024x780 with all the graphics turned on and all opponents and still have a fluid framerates. I cannot do this with F1 2000. The GP3 car also feels better to me (I'm not saying realistc..just feels better) and sound better than the F1 World Grand Prix depiction. Also, IMHO, I really don't think there's anything wrong with the graphics (LoL I know I'm going to get slammed on this one but oh well.....)...it looks better than F1WGP and F1 2000. (Once again IMHO). Last of course is the wet weather. I don't think there's anything out there that compares to GP3 when it comes to weather, not SCGT or anything else that I can think of off-hand. Oh well, just my 2 cents worth. I know I'm going to get criticism but hey, what are the newsgroups for right? Cheers!

No criticism here, there are very few games available of the GP series calibre (GP2 was and is awesome, GP3 is awesome) and also GPL is a very good game (I just got it today ;-) so I can't slam you at all, all the other gp games I've played are far too easy and arcade-like which spoils it, and makes it boring. Its far more interesting to get into the depth and detail of the sport and makes you more satisfied to race and win/get a good result. But the option for a quick race is always there aswell, awesome. As for graphics, I dont mind it if it looks crap, IMO I didnt like the look of the cockpit until I played it - when it was calibrating my display I didnt like it at all, but as soon as I drove the car I found it was awesome, and I still play GP2 so graphics dont bother me, as long as it is a quality game (like the aforementioned). I also play NFS:Porsche 2000, but I wouldn't ever compare that with the gp-type games as they are very different, but I really love Porsche, it is a fantastic game and the online racing is beyond awesome, its sooo quick considering Internet play on other games. IMO - GP2/3 are very, very good games, I've not played GPL a great deal yet, but what from ppl I know have been saying, I can't wait to get more into it - and possibly enter the league GPLRank or whatever it is. Thats my 2 cents ;-) hehe -- Phil. WCOutlaw (Wrecking Crew http://online.totalnfs.net) ICQ# 5065494 "Regular Racer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:HAAk5.367$[email hidden]... > Well, as the owner of GP3, F1 World Grand Prix, and F1 2000, I'm going > to have to say that I like GP3 the best. Now I know there are lot's of > folks who disagree with me and I can understand everyone's opinions on the > matter also. This is just my 2 cents worth on why I like GP3 the best. > > Primarily because I can run it at 800x600 and 1024x780 with all the > graphics turned on and all opponents and still have a fluid framerates. I > cannot do this with F1 2000. The GP3 car also feels better to me (I'm not > saying realistc..just feels better) and sound better than the F1 World Grand > Prix depiction. Also, IMHO, I really don't think there's anything wrong > with the graphics (LoL I know I'm going to get slammed on this one but oh > well.....)...it looks better than F1WGP and F1 2000. (Once again IMHO). > > Last of course is the wet weather. I don't think there's anything out > there that compares to GP3 when it comes to weather, not SCGT or anything > else that I can think of off-hand. > > Oh well, just my 2 cents worth. I know I'm going to get criticism but > hey, what are the newsgroups for right? > > > Cheers! > >

On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 17:29:03 +0100, "WCOutlaw" <[email hidden]> wrote: <snip> > GPL is a very good >game (I just got it today ;-) so I can't slam you at all, all the other gp >games I've played are far too easy and arcade-like which spoils it, and >makes it boring.<snip> Welcome to GPL. it is not easy and not boring. It is incredibly frustrating because it is so hard but is also very satisfying when you hit a milestone: first clean lap; first clean race; first win; figuring out how to drive the Lotus; under 130 at monza; under 9 at the ring (still working on that); first vroc race; first vroc win; a GPLRank; a GPLRank under 100; escape from St. Eldred's Cup; a negative GPLRank.... I could go on but I'm getting misty eyed (about thinking of all the things undone) Chris --who needs to spend more time at the track

no, I haven't and I dont intend to either, I'm happy with GP2, GP3 and GPL - thnx -- Phil. WCOutlaw (Wrecking Crew http://online.totalnfs.net) ICQ# 5065494 "HJ Ventura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:EnCk5.626508$k22.2916405@flipper... > > No criticism here, there are very few games available of the GP series > > calibre (GP2 was and is awesome, GP3 is awesome) and also GPL is a very > good > > game (I just got it today ;-) so I can't slam you at all, all the other gp > > games I've played are far too easy and arcade-like which spoils it, and > > makes it boring. > > Just one question. No criticism also. But did you ever try F1 2000 ?? > I dont say GP3 is nothing, but i didnt see you were mentioning F1 2000 (its > definitly not an arcade game...). > Maybe you should try it once (ofcourse if you got a fast computer, because, > yes, it needs a faster PC than GP3) > > I am wondering what your opinion will be (after giving it a real chance > ofcourse) > >

> No criticism here, there are very few games available of the GP series > calibre (GP2 was and is awesome, GP3 is awesome) and also GPL is a verygood > game (I just got it today ;-) so I can't slam you at all, all the other gp > games I've played are far too easy and arcade-like which spoils it, and > makes it boring. Just one question. No criticism also. But did you ever try F1 2000 ?? I dont say GP3 is nothing, but i didnt see you were mentioning F1 2000 (its definitly not an arcade game...). Maybe you should try it once (ofcourse if you got a fast computer, because, yes, it needs a faster PC than GP3) I am wondering what your opinion will be (after giving it a real chance ofcourse)

I think that GP3's reliance on (as far as I can tell) the GP2 design probably made it difficult to get tcp/ip lag free multiplayer to work. I like gp3 alot but it seems a bit like ptolemaic astronomy (http://es.rice.edu/ES/humsoc/Galileo//Things/ptolemaic_system.html)-- the system produces good results but is not very elegant and has difficulty incorporating new observations(requirements). Chris --stargazing <[email hidden]>, Alan Bernardo <[email hidden]> wrote: > On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 10:52:04 +0100, "BBSandra" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Yo > > > >GP3 has grown on me a lot over the last few days. I still want toknow

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> >where the Internet play option is though? > > > >Bye > > > >Mark > > > > That is a major deficiency of GP3. Who ever heard of a game released > today that does not have a good multiplayer module? Imagine Nascar > Heat not having multiplayer, when it is released. Why Hasbro did not > include a working Internet play module in GP3 is beyond me. > > Alanb >

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> Yo > > GP3 has grown on me a lot over the last few days. > I still want to know where the Internet play option > is though? > > Bye > > Mark > >

GP3 is and GP2 was a great game. No criticism here so far. What people moan about is the fact that some points simply need to be fixed, and progress hasn't been from what has been expected (4 years). If Geoff were to release a proper glitch/bugfix and would finally come-up with a decent multiplayer option, GP3 would be perfect. If however, the progress of GP4 is similar to that of GP3 I prolly wouldn't buy the game anymore. I hope they don't follow the same route as Ea Sports did with their Fifa 96, 97, 98RTWC, 98WC, 99, 2000 and Euro2000 series. I bought the first (4) ones, the rest were only minor upgrades and only intented as a cash cow for electronic arts. I don't consider myself a sponsor of a cash cow.

Yo GP3 has grown on me a lot over the last few days. I still want to know where the Internet play option is though? Bye Mark

On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 10:52:04 +0100, "BBSandra" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Yo > >GP3 has grown on me a lot over the last few days. I still want to know >where the Internet play option is though? > >Bye > >Mark >

That is a major deficiency of GP3. Who ever heard of a game released today that does not have a good multiplayer module? Imagine Nascar Heat not having multiplayer, when it is released. Why Hasbro did not include a working Internet play module in GP3 is beyond me. Alanb

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>I keep hearing this, but how come I can get F12K to run at acceptable >frame rates with decent-looking graphics on my AMD K6-2 400 with 64 MB >of RAM and a 16 MB Voodoo Banshee card, yet I can't get GP3 to even >hobble along with anything that even resembles a decent frame rate >without cranking the graphics back to what appears to be SVGA-level >graphics? I am not an eye candy nut, and if the driving model in GP3 >felt halfway decent, I wouldn't mind the low-rent graphics, but the >physics model doesn't justify the heavy processor demand, IMO. In >short, how come F12K runs/looks okay on my system, while GP3 runs/looks >like crap? I seem to be the exception to the rule here, compared to >everyone else (and, yes, I have seen GP3 run in software mode on a >Pentium Pro system, and it looked okay there, but I'm disappointed on >my own system).

What did you disable on F1 2K? I have a K6-3 400, 96 MB ram, and a V3 3000. My frame rates are less than acceptable. I guess I haven't found the right combination of stuff to disable yet... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +51.95 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.