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Re: Todays feet camera and GP3

4 posts by 4 people · 11 Aug 2000 - 12 Aug 2000 03:29 UTC

> There's no > driving through the corners involved. huh ? 1. It looked like driving to me. 2. The Logitech pedals have about zero travel. What pedals are you talking about ? 3. The first thing I would do if I had my F1 car straight is hit full trottle :) 4. If Pedro gets his entry speed and steering right, he doesn't have to steer much with the throttle. 5. It was a free practice session. 6. You should've been in Hockenheim at the sachs curve - on the exit every driver very clearly and extremely modulated the throttle to get the best possible grip. It did sound impressive indeed. But you are right, I was impressed with the amount of travel those brake pedals have, too. In the Formula Opel Lotus I drove once the pedal didn't seem to be moveable at all :-)
Harjan Brand 11 Aug 2000 16:14 UTC#243240
I was so surprised with todays feet camera onboard with Pedro de la Rosa. It was just horrible. First thing I noticed was the immense travel of the brake pedal. Logitech seems spot on with their pedals, although Pedro seemed to have even more to play with. It really looked like a gaming pedal. Anyone who has driven a car with non powered brakes (like most racing cars are) will agree with me that the brake pedal is quite hard and doesn't have very much travel. Well Pedro had more travel than I have in my road car. And then the throttle, a good GPL drivers has to have a better (more sensitive)right foot than modern F1 drivers. I already noticed it when they first showed the rev graph a few races ago but now it was even more clear. In about every corner they just put their foot slightly against the throttle (not changing the level of input, not even after the clipping point) and as soon as they point straight they just hit full throttle. So they're using 7-8000 rpm through the entire corner, and then bam accelerate. There's no driving through the corners involved. It showed that GP3 has the torque completely wrong because in GP3 you can apply throttly around the corner and drive it through the corners. One more thing I noticed, they actually use the technique of applying some brake when the car understeers. I saw him do it twice. Applying the throttle in the middle of a corner when he had too much understeer. I hate modern F1 cars, that high power to mechanical grip has taken everything out of what it is to drive a racing car. I now fully understand Alex Zanardi.
Johan N 11 Aug 2000 19:33 UTC#243193
In article <RSTk5.11516$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > I was so surprised with todays feet camera onboard with Pedro de la Rosa. It > was just horrible. > > It showed that GP3 has the torque completely wrong because in GP3 you can > apply throttly around the corner and drive it through the corners. It really depends on the corner doesn't it. If you applying gas in a tight corner you will loose the car, just like Gp3 isn't it. -- Greetings Johan N [email hidden]
GD 12 Aug 2000 03:29 UTC#243045
In article <RSTk5.11516$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > >One more thing I noticed, they actually use the technique of >applying some brake when the car understeers. I saw him do it >twice. Applying the throttle in the middle of a corner when >he had too much understeer. Erm... you've lost me here. Did he apply brake or accelerator when the car understeered? Perhaps you could expand on this point. It might even be related to something Martin Brundle said about Villeneuve during the wet canadian GP that I've puzzled about since then. The back of the car stepped out at the exit of one of the chicanes, and apparently JV used brake to get the nose pointing in the right direction again. I would have thought that applying brake would just create more understeer.

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