A Bit Of Advice (Nascar Heat Demo)

For those who will rip the Heat demo no matter how excellent it is, at least lie and tell us you spent more than 10 minutes with it before running to r.a.s. to rip it apart. Also, please leave out the, "it's no GPL" comments. They tend to make me starting yawning uncontrollably. David G Fisher

"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > For those who will rip the Heat demo no matter how excellent it is, atleast > lie and tell us you spent more than 10 minutes with it before running to > r.a.s. to rip it apart. Also, please leave out the, "it's no GPL"comments. > They tend to make me starting yawning uncontrollably. It's no GPL. I like to see you yawn <yawn> -- ;-) (it's a joke). -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

In article <8n41oe$7fs$[email hidden]>, "Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> writes: >It is only a today I've read an old post calling GP3 crap, when he had not >played the game, or the new demo.. It has a demo now?!? Damn, missed that. I'll have to d/l it monday - along with NH... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +51.95 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8n3hjo$l9q$[email hidden]... > Woohoo, someone with their own opinion on things. So, those who enjoy GPL lack the capability to make their own mind up on what they do and don't like - they're unable to be "someone with their own opinion on things." OK, glad we got that sorted out... Welcome to the group of people I have no respect for, Tim. :-) Mark

Did I say that Mark? No. It is only a today I've read an old post calling GP3 crap, when he had not played the game, or the new demo... He bases his opinion on what exactly? Also I've just read someone commenting on NH... "Goodbye Papy" he said... He must of played N4? -- Tim, [email hidden]|[email hidden] http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your league... http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on gpl... Mark Davison <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8n4166$6vs$[email hidden]... > > "Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8n3hjo$l9q$[email hidden]... > > Woohoo, someone with their own opinion on things. > > So, those who enjoy GPL lack the capability to make their own mind up on > what they do and don't like - they're unable to be "someone with their own > opinion on things." OK, glad we got that sorted out... > > Welcome to the group of people I have no respect for, Tim. :-) > > Mark > > >

In article <[email hidden]>, Alan Bernardo <[email hidden]> writes: >GP3 is a fine game. It runs well and I enjoy it. The only thing it >lacks is any kind of online multiplayer support. Too many people here >say GP3 is bad based solely on some problems they alone might be >having. If you can't get your wheel to work, does that make the game >a piece of crap? Hardly. To that person, yes. Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +51.95 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Er, it's quite good to have other things to do apart from GPL Andrew, if 2nd rate sims are things such as GP3 then thank god, I love 2nd rate sims then. Fact is their much more fun than crashing in turn one with people who "Don't know what happened" If all people can do is repeat other people's views, then this newsgroup is nothing apart from the few people like David who make up their OWN mind. The rest just jump on the ol' bandwagon like lemmings, having read views from people in here when the gpl demo was released, or even when gpl was released, calling it crap... the facts I'm pointing out are proved again, and again. -- Tim, [email hidden]|[email hidden] http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your league... http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on gpl... Andrew MacPherson <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > [email hidden] (David G Fisher) wrote: > > > They tend to make me starting yawning uncontrollably. > > Dave, there are times when you seem like a fairly reasonable human being. There > are also times when your pomposity is almost as great as your appetite for second > rate sims. > > Andrew "GPanaL retentive" McP > > PS A diet of second rate sims is probably more nutritionally balanced than an ultra > high fibre GPL diet, which may account for why I don't have the strength of > character to drive GP3 or Colin McCrae 74, or whatever this week's most > under-rated project is.

Woohoo, someone with their own opinion on things. Welcome to the group of people I have respect for David. :-) -- Tim, [email hidden]|[email hidden] http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your league... http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on gpl... David G Fisher <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:52_k5.94097$A%[email hidden]... > For those who will rip the Heat demo no matter how excellent it is, at least > lie and tell us you spent more than 10 minutes with it before running to > r.a.s. to rip it apart. Also, please leave out the, "it's no GPL" comments. > They tend to make me starting yawning uncontrollably. > > David G Fisher > >

Firstly, 2 year old GFX? Doesn't look like that on my 2 week old PC, maybe your pc is 2 years old? sheesh -- Tim, [email hidden]|[email hidden] http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your league... http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on gpl... Vintook <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:UH6l5.44787$t%[email hidden]... > > "Alan Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Sat, 12 Aug 2000 00:38:23 GMT, "Tony Wyss" <[email hidden]> > > wrote: > > > > >> It's no GP3 either. > > >> > > >Thank god. > > > > > Tony, > > > > I wonder how you can compare the two games as it is, except > > graphically. And if all you're interested in is graphics then go for > > NFS. > > anyone who puts out a game with 2 year old graphics should be flamed. > > > GP3 is a fine game. It runs well and I enjoy it. The only thing it > > lacks is any kind of online multiplayer support. Too many people here > > say GP3 is bad based solely on some problems they alone might be > > having. If you can't get your wheel to work, does that make the game > > a piece of crap? Hardly. > > anyone who puts out a game with no multiplayer support should be flamed. > > anyone who puts our a game that doesn't support todays hardware should be > flamed. > > > The graphics in GP3 are fine enough: > > see previous comment > > > I'll take good physics, > > The physics are OK but not up to snuff (see GPL for good physics > implimentation). > > >good online play, > > there is none, nuf said > > >and decent game options over graphics any day. > > HUH???? Game options?? be specific, I'm sure we can rip you apart on that. > > > > Nascar Heat looks pretty good and it will have decent multiplayer > > capabilities online. But comparing a Nascar-type game with an F1-type > > game is a bit hard to do. > > > > Alanb > > I'm sure the previous poster wasn't bringing up a difference between Nascar > and F1, only the difference between a good game and a basic update that he > or she waited 4 years for. > > Vintook > > >

>Also, please leave out the, "it's no GPL" comments. >They tend to make me starting yawning uncontrollably. And standard DGF comments like that have the same effect on me :-) -- Cheers! Graeme Nash

Urinates on it from a great height, in fact. ;-) Jan. =--- David L. Cook wrote... > <snip> > LOL - It kicks GP3's ass... > > --David Cook

"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:52_k5.94097$A%[email hidden]... > For those who will rip the Heat demo no matter how excellent it is, atleast > lie and tell us you spent more than 10 minutes with it before running to > r.a.s. to rip it apart. Also, please leave out the, "it's no GPL"comments. > They tend to make me starting yawning uncontrollably. It's no GP3 either.

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> "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:52_k5.94097$A%[email hidden]... > > For those who will rip the Heat demo no matter how excellent it is, at > > lie and tell us you spent more than 10 minutes with it before running to > > r.a.s. to rip it apart. Also, please leave out the, "it's no GPL" > > They tend to make me starting yawning uncontrollably. > > It's no GP3 either.

LOL - It kicks GP3's ass... --David Cook

> It's no GP3 either. >Thank god.

On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 19:59:10 -0400, "AndrewS" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:52_k5.94097$A%[email hidden]... >> For those who will rip the Heat demo no matter how excellent it is, at >least >> lie and tell us you spent more than 10 minutes with it before running to >> r.a.s. to rip it apart. Also, please leave out the, "it's no GPL" >comments. >> They tend to make me starting yawning uncontrollably. > >It's no GP3 either. >

So far, so good!

On Sat, 12 Aug 2000 00:38:23 GMT, "Tony Wyss" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> It's no GP3 either. >> >Thank god. >Tony, I wonder how you can compare the two games as it is, except graphically. And if all you're interested in is graphics then go for NFS. GP3 is a fine game. It runs well and I enjoy it. The only thing it lacks is any kind of online multiplayer support. Too many people here say GP3 is bad based solely on some problems they alone might be having. If you can't get your wheel to work, does that make the game a piece of crap? Hardly. The graphics in GP3 are fine enough: I'll take good physics, good online play, and decent game options over graphics any day. Nascar Heat looks pretty good and it will have decent multiplayer capabilities online. But comparing a Nascar-type game with an F1-type game is a bit hard to do. Alanb

"Alan Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Sat, 12 Aug 2000 00:38:23 GMT, "Tony Wyss" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >> It's no GP3 either. > >> > >Thank god. > > > Tony, > > I wonder how you can compare the two games as it is, except > graphically. And if all you're interested in is graphics then go for > NFS.

anyone who puts out a game with 2 year old graphics should be flamed. > GP3 is a fine game. It runs well and I enjoy it. The only thing it > lacks is any kind of online multiplayer support. Too many people here > say GP3 is bad based solely on some problems they alone might be > having. If you can't get your wheel to work, does that make the game > a piece of crap? Hardly. anyone who puts out a game with no multiplayer support should be flamed. anyone who puts our a game that doesn't support todays hardware should be flamed. > The graphics in GP3 are fine enough: see previous comment > I'll take good physics, The physics are OK but not up to snuff (see GPL for good physics implimentation). >good online play, there is none, nuf said >and decent game options over graphics any day. HUH???? Game options?? be specific, I'm sure we can rip you apart on that. > Nascar Heat looks pretty good and it will have decent multiplayer > capabilities online. But comparing a Nascar-type game with an F1-type > game is a bit hard to do. > > Alanb I'm sure the previous poster wasn't bringing up a difference between Nascar and F1, only the difference between a good game and a basic update that he or she waited 4 years for. Vintook

[email hidden] (David G Fisher) wrote: > They tend to make me starting yawning uncontrollably. Dave, there are times when you seem like a fairly reasonable human being. There are also times when your pomposity is almost as great as your appetite for second rate sims. Andrew "GPanaL retentive" McP PS A diet of second rate sims is probably more nutritionally balanced than an ultra high fibre GPL diet, which may account for why I don't have the strength of character to drive GP3 or Colin McCrae 74, or whatever this week's most under-rated project is.

Like a Champion race horse... hehe Oliver BEOROCKET Racing: www.beorocket.co.yu "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Urinates on it from a great height, in fact. ;-) > > Jan. > =--- > David L. Cook wrote... > > <snip> > > LOL - It kicks GP3's ass... > > > > --David Cook > >

They certainly don't look bad on my Athlon 750 with Voodoo 3, must be his PC ;) -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> Tim Wheatley <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8n3ho2$lco$[email hidden]... > Firstly, 2 year old GFX? > > Doesn't look like that on my 2 week old PC, maybe your pc is 2 years old? > > sheesh > > -- > Tim, > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your league... > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on gpl... > Vintook <[email hidden]> wrote in message

On Sat, 12 Aug 2000 07:06:28 GMT, "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> I wonder how you can compare the two games as it is, except >> graphically. And if all you're interested in is graphics then go for >> NFS. > >anyone who puts out a game with 2 year old graphics should be flamed. Viper Racings graphics engine isn't that new either - and though Nascar Heats graphics are very good (a bit blurry on my V3, perhaps turning off mip-mapping could help), I don't see many improvements compared to the old engine. Btw, does Nascar Heat support T&L? I mean, my polygon throughput is 'awesome' (4700 iirc), but things might get a bit choppy with > 30 opponents ... -Daniel

[email hidden] (Tim Wheatley) wrote: > Er, it's quite good to have other things to do apart from GPL I have a hundred better things to do than spend time in front of my PC and a million better things to spend my money on than yet-another-game/simette. At 37 I have no time or patience for second best, if I was 17 again I might be more forgiving :-) But I'm *not* criticising those who enjoy other sims/games... it's a big world, plenty of room for everyone to enjoy whatever they want. What annoys me are Dave's occasional trips to Holierthanthousville. RAS doesn't need a Defender of The Poor and Underappreciated. Everyone has a mind, it's up to them to use it. Andrew McP

Strange post! If you actually mean what you wrote, why are you here reading posts about a game that you aren't interested in? Aren't you wasting your time? Opinions about David of course are matter of personal preference. Pete "Andrew MacPherson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > I have a hundred better things to do than spend time in front of my PC anda > million better things to spend my money on than yet-another-game/simette.At 37 > I have no time or patience for second best, if I was 17 again I might bemore > forgiving :-) > > But I'm *not* criticising those who enjoy other sims/games... it's a bigworld, > plenty of room for everyone to enjoy whatever they want. What annoys meare > Dave's occasional trips to Holierthanthousville. RAS doesn't need aDefender of > The Poor and Underappreciated. Everyone has a mind, it's up to them to useit. > > Andrew McP

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> > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:52_k5.94097$A%[email hidden]... > > For those who will rip the Heat demo no matter how excellent it is, at > least > > lie and tell us you spent more than 10 minutes with it before running to > > r.a.s. to rip it apart. Also, please leave out the, "it's no GPL" > comments. > > They tend to make me starting yawning uncontrollably. > > It's no GP3 either.

Yeah, thank fuc* for that <G>.

On Sat, 12 Aug 2000 19:45 +0100 (BST), [email hidden] (Andrew MacPherson) thus spoke: >I have a hundred better things to do than spend time in front of my PC Then why are you here? Quick! A rerun of "On The Buses" is coming on the telly in about five minutes. ;-) -- Nos

In article <[email hidden]>, Alan Bernardo <[email hidden]> writes:

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>On 12 Aug 2000 15:43:11 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > >>In article <[email hidden]>, Alan Bernardo >><[email hidden]> writes: >> >>>GP3 is a fine game. It runs well and I enjoy it. The only thing it >>>lacks is any kind of online multiplayer support. Too many people here >>>say GP3 is bad based solely on some problems they alone might be >>>having. If you can't get your wheel to work, does that make the game >>>a piece of crap? Hardly. >> >>To that person, yes. >> >>Eldred > >To that person, certainly. But that person will then post to the >world, proclaiming that the game is no good for everyone simply >because he doesn't like it because his FF Wheel doesn't work. > >Alanb

Ok. You just have to filter out the comments that matter to you. For example, if someone complains that his FF doesn't work, I don't care. I don't have FF...<g> But, people who *do* own FF might benefit from the person's opinions... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +51.95 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

That's cool enough Andrew, sorry if I sounded like an asss.... I'm not - honest! <g> -- Tim, [email hidden]|[email hidden] http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your league... http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on gpl... Andrew MacPherson <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > [email hidden] (Pete) wrote: > > > why are you here reading posts about a game that you > > aren't interested in? > > I said I had a hundred better things to do...I don't necessarily *want* to do them > :-) The point is that when I do have time to play I want it to involve me > completely... whether that's an FPS, flight sim, of driving sim. I want to disbelief to > be not so much suspended as bungee-jumped over Niagra Falls! I want > involvement, excitement, and a great bunch of people to share it with. GPL, VROC > and even this sorry dump <g> supply that at the moment. As a package it's a > very justifiable "waste" of time. > > And I'm in a NH thread because I'm always ready to take a look at new > sims...open mind, not just open wheel ;-) If I could get my accelerator axis to > register more than 1/3 deflection in NH I might even have an opinion on it <g>. > > Andrew McP > > PS For examples of what I really ought to be doing with my time instead of > worrying about Solitude lap times take a look at > http://www.cix.co.uk/~andrew_mcp/art/art.htm > Just dont remind me when the last update was :-> >

Er, thanks for your time spent typing, but you are argueing with someone who thinks the same thing as you..... -- Tim, [email hidden]|[email hidden] http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your league... http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on gpl... Loosay2 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > >Woohoo, someone with their own opinion on things. > > > >Welcome to the group of people I have respect for David. :-) > > I respect the opinion of some people who love GPL,(nice challenging physics), > but there are numerous others who sound more like 16 year olds who have joined > the "GPL Gang", and dogmatically dismiss every game as "crap" or at least "no > GPL" when in fact GPL is not the state of the art "fun" racing sim anymore for > many of us. Otherwise there would be a GPL2 by now. There are simply better > racers debuting this year, but if you are too myopic to render an objective > opinion on the newer games,and your ego is tied into a videogame, then your > opinion is not worth much.

>Woohoo, someone with their own opinion on things. > >Welcome to the group of people I have respect for David. :-) I respect the opinion of some people who love GPL,(nice challenging physics), but there are numerous others who sound more like 16 year olds who have joined the "GPL Gang", and dogmatically dismiss every game as "crap" or at least "no GPL" when in fact GPL is not the state of the art "fun" racing sim anymore for many of us. Otherwise there would be a GPL2 by now. There are simply better racers debuting this year, but if you are too myopic to render an objective opinion on the newer games,and your ego is tied into a videogame, then your opinion is not worth much.

"Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8n41oe$7fs$[email hidden]... > Did I say that Mark? No. Well, I'll humbly appologise if I misread your post :-) It did sound like you were saying that GPL fans couldn't make up their own minds. What pees me off is when people complain that "it's no GPL" is an invalid criticism. That comment means "it's not as accomplished a sim as GPL was" not "it's not GPL so I refuse to consider it a viable proposition as a racing sim". Anyway, see you around... Mark

[email hidden] (Pete) wrote: > why are you here reading posts about a game that you > aren't interested in? I said I had a hundred better things to do...I don't necessarily *want* to do them :-) The point is that when I do have time to play I want it to involve me completely... whether that's an FPS, flight sim, of driving sim. I want to disbelief to be not so much suspended as bungee-jumped over Niagra Falls! I want involvement, excitement, and a great bunch of people to share it with. GPL, VROC and even this sorry dump <g> supply that at the moment. As a package it's a very justifiable "waste" of time. And I'm in a NH thread because I'm always ready to take a look at new sims...open mind, not just open wheel ;-) If I could get my accelerator axis to register more than 1/3 deflection in NH I might even have an opinion on it <g>. Andrew McP PS For examples of what I really ought to be doing with my time instead of worrying about Solitude lap times take a look at http://www.cix.co.uk/~andrew_mcp/art/art.htm Just dont remind me when the last update was :->

[email hidden] () wrote: > A rerun of "On The Buses" is coming on > the telly in about five minutes. ;-) I'll get youuu Nos! Andrew McP (who wasn't allowed to watch On the Buses or Monty Python the 1st time round... not that I <twitch> resent it <blink><twitch>)

Tim Wheatley wrote: > Also I've just read someone commenting on NH... "Goodbye Papy" he said... > He must of played N4? I read that post and what you did was misinterpret what he was saying. I don't think, "Goodbye Papy", meant, "NH is better than N4 will be so I won't ever bother with N4". I think he just meant, "Goodbye N3". Of course I could be wrong <G>. Gerry

Tim Wheatley wrote: > > Firstly, 2 year old GFX? > > Doesn't look like that on my 2 week old PC, maybe your pc is 2 years old? > > sheesh Even GP3 looks good on a 12" monitor ;)

On 12 Aug 2000 15:43:11 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote:

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>In article <[email hidden]>, Alan Bernardo ><[email hidden]> writes: > >>GP3 is a fine game. It runs well and I enjoy it. The only thing it >>lacks is any kind of online multiplayer support. Too many people here >>say GP3 is bad based solely on some problems they alone might be >>having. If you can't get your wheel to work, does that make the game >>a piece of crap? Hardly. > >To that person, yes. > >Eldred

To that person, certainly. But that person will then post to the world, proclaiming that the game is no good for everyone simply because he doesn't like it because his FF Wheel doesn't work. Alanb

Pete wrote: > > Strange post! If you actually mean what you wrote, why are you here > reading posts about a game that you aren't interested in? Aren't you wasting > your time? > Opinions about David of course are matter of personal preference. Actually, I think they're quite unanimous :-))) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

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> Pete wrote: > > Actually, I think they're quite unanimous :-))) > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * > "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

"David L. Cook" wrote: > > In article <6s0l5.9656$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] wrote...snip > > > > It's no GP3 either. > > LOL - It kicks GP3's ass... Sigh! It does shit for you if you want to drive an F1 car. Of course, it kicks N3's ass, that's for sure... l8er ronny -- |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!