Re: GP3 Can't get the B Joystick to Calibrate

You're trying too hard, Alan -- GP3 was designed from the ground-up to give us the best software-accelerated graphics available, while also offering the best keyboard control ever. ECCI saw the writing on the wall with regards to GP3, which may be why they pulled out of the consumer controller market. That said, I hear GP3 does support split-axis keyboard (i.e., you can use different keys for throttle and brake functions). </SARCASM> [Note to Alan: Sorry I couldn't provide any real help -- I'm not aiming this at you, I'm just simply frustrated with GP3 and all the unwarranted attention it seems to be getting. Can't we all go back to pandering over GPL? <G> At least I can understand that, because it's definitely warranted in that case.] -- JB In article <[email hidden]>, Alan Chandler <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> Just bought GP3 and trying to set it up to run with my MS Sidewinder > Pro just like I do in GPL > > A Joystick Hori Steering > A Joystick Vert Throttle > B Joystick (not sure which = throttle lever) Brake > > Firstly when calbrating Joy A GP3 only sees a range of 0-245 but I > know the joystick always goes from 0-255 exactly (because its digital) > > Secondly when I move on to Joy B calibration it sees nothing at all > > Something lame here - how can I fix it? > > Alan > > [email hidden] > http://www.chandler.u-net.com >

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Just bought GP3 and trying to set it up to run with my MS Sidewinder Pro just like I do in GPL A Joystick Hori Steering A Joystick Vert Throttle B Joystick (not sure which = throttle lever) Brake Firstly when calbrating Joy A GP3 only sees a range of 0-245 but I know the joystick always goes from 0-255 exactly (because its digital) Secondly when I move on to Joy B calibration it sees nothing at all Something lame here - how can I fix it? Alan [email hidden] http://www.chandler.u-net.com

I couldn't get the brakes to work on my MS FF wheel, until I set 'Combine as Y' on under 'pedal configuration' in the Sidewinder software. I.e. You need to set up a profile for GP3, but you need that anyway to make the gear change paddles work anyway. Now it's ok. John Alan Chandler <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Just bought GP3 and trying to set it up to run with my MS Sidewinder > Pro just like I do in GPL > > A Joystick Hori Steering > A Joystick Vert Throttle > B Joystick (not sure which = throttle lever) Brake > > Firstly when calbrating Joy A GP3 only sees a range of 0-245 but I > know the joystick always goes from 0-255 exactly (because its digital) > > Secondly when I move on to Joy B calibration it sees nothing at all > > Something lame here - how can I fix it? > > > Alan > > [email hidden] > http://www.chandler.u-net.com

How do you select which axis are on which joy? I get wheel and clutch on 1st and brake and gas on 2nd. How did you get wheel and gas on joy 1? Steve Dave Hawnt <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hey... this is the answer to split axis calibration in GP3, it's a realarse > way of doing it but it works! I tried as suggested and selected two 2 * > axis j/sticks in W98, one on ID1 the other on ID2, I then calibratedthem... > one axis for steering, one for throttle on the 1st J/stick (ID1), the I > calibrated the brake and clutch on the other two axis on the 2nd j/stick > (ID2). Phew!!! Then calibrated all four axis in GP3 under 'race > controller'.... Joystick 'A' and 'B'. It transforms the handling of GP3to > useit with split axis... I was previously using it under shared axis > (hopeless). > > Thanks for the tip Gregor... this worked out well. BUT... why oh why is > this not mention in the damb manual!!!! If information like this toenable

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> setting up a wheel and pedals is not in the manual, whats the point of > buying s/ware, I may as well have d/loaded the warez version! > > Dave UK > > Gregor Veble wrote: > > > Alan Chandler wrote: > > > > > > Just bought GP3 and trying to set it up to run with my MS Sidewinder > > > Pro just like I do in GPL > > > > > > A Joystick Hori Steering > > > A Joystick Vert Throttle > > > B Joystick (not sure which = throttle lever) Brake > > > > > > Firstly when calbrating Joy A GP3 only sees a range of 0-245 but I > > > know the joystick always goes from 0-255 exactly (because its digital) > > > > > > Secondly when I move on to Joy B calibration it sees nothing at all > > > > > > Something lame here - how can I fix it? > > > > > > Alan > > > > > > [email hidden] > > > http://www.chandler.u-net.com > > > > There was a tip on the net (I don't remember where exactly) that in > > Windows Game controller panel you do not use the usual setup for your > > steering wheel, but just select two (2) 2-axis, 2-buttons controllers, > > as this is how GP3 sees the inputs. Calibrate all axes in Windows for > > both `virtual' controllers, and use controller driven calibration in > > GP3. That will give you split axis plus an additional clutch axis (if > > your steering wheel has that). I do not know whether this interferes > > with FF effects, though. > > > > -Gregor >

In article <[email hidden]>, Ronald Stoehr <[email hidden]> wrote: > [email hidden] wrote: > > > snip > > </SARCASM> > > No, I'd call it trolling. Trolling? Because I'm genuinely disappointed with GP3? Hardly. > > [Note to Alan: Sorry I couldn't provide any real help -- I'm notaiming > > this at you, I'm just simply frustrated with GP3 and all the > > unwarranted attention it seems to be getting. Can't we all go backto > > pandering over GPL? <G> At least I can understand that, becauseit's > > definitely warranted in that case.] > > Just keep out of the GP3 threads. Your constant whinging about GP3 isas > stupid as your constant praise of DTR. This is a public newsgroup, pal -- I'm as entitled to post my opinions here as YOU are. And when was the last time I made a post with anything more than a passing reference to DTR, anyway? NFSPU and F12K currently have my attention, so perhaps you'd better pull your head out of Mr. Crammond's nether regions -- it seems to be impairing your powers of observations. -- JB Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Alan Chandler wrote:

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> > Just bought GP3 and trying to set it up to run with my MS Sidewinder > Pro just like I do in GPL > > A Joystick Hori Steering > A Joystick Vert Throttle > B Joystick (not sure which = throttle lever) Brake > > Firstly when calbrating Joy A GP3 only sees a range of 0-245 but I > know the joystick always goes from 0-255 exactly (because its digital) > > Secondly when I move on to Joy B calibration it sees nothing at all > > Something lame here - how can I fix it? > > Alan > > [email hidden] > http://www.chandler.u-net.com

There was a tip on the net (I don't remember where exactly) that in Windows Game controller panel you do not use the usual setup for your steering wheel, but just select two (2) 2-axis, 2-buttons controllers, as this is how GP3 sees the inputs. Calibrate all axes in Windows for both `virtual' controllers, and use controller driven calibration in GP3. That will give you split axis plus an additional clutch axis (if your steering wheel has that). I do not know whether this interferes with FF effects, though. -Gregor

[email hidden] wrote: > snip > </SARCASM> No, I'd call it trolling. > > [Note to Alan: Sorry I couldn't provide any real help -- I'm not aiming > this at you, I'm just simply frustrated with GP3 and all the > unwarranted attention it seems to be getting. Can't we all go back to > pandering over GPL? <G> At least I can understand that, because it's > definitely warranted in that case.] Just keep out of the GP3 threads. Your constant whinging about GP3 is as stupid as your constant praise of DTR. l8er ronny -- |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

Hey... this is the answer to split axis calibration in GP3, it's a real arse way of doing it but it works! I tried as suggested and selected two 2 * axis j/sticks in W98, one on ID1 the other on ID2, I then calibrated them... one axis for steering, one for throttle on the 1st J/stick (ID1), the I calibrated the brake and clutch on the other two axis on the 2nd j/stick (ID2). Phew!!! Then calibrated all four axis in GP3 under 'race controller'.... Joystick 'A' and 'B'. It transforms the handling of GP3 to useit with split axis... I was previously using it under shared axis (hopeless). Thanks for the tip Gregor... this worked out well. BUT... why oh why is this not mention in the damb manual!!!! If information like this to enable setting up a wheel and pedals is not in the manual, whats the point of buying s/ware, I may as well have d/loaded the warez version! Dave UK Gregor Veble wrote:

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> Alan Chandler wrote: > > > > Just bought GP3 and trying to set it up to run with my MS Sidewinder > > Pro just like I do in GPL > > > > A Joystick Hori Steering > > A Joystick Vert Throttle > > B Joystick (not sure which = throttle lever) Brake > > > > Firstly when calbrating Joy A GP3 only sees a range of 0-245 but I > > know the joystick always goes from 0-255 exactly (because its digital) > > > > Secondly when I move on to Joy B calibration it sees nothing at all > > > > Something lame here - how can I fix it? > > > > Alan > > > > [email hidden] > > http://www.chandler.u-net.com > > There was a tip on the net (I don't remember where exactly) that in > Windows Game controller panel you do not use the usual setup for your > steering wheel, but just select two (2) 2-axis, 2-buttons controllers, > as this is how GP3 sees the inputs. Calibrate all axes in Windows for > both `virtual' controllers, and use controller driven calibration in > GP3. That will give you split axis plus an additional clutch axis (if > your steering wheel has that). I do not know whether this interferes > with FF effects, though. > > -Gregor

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> > This is a public newsgroup, pal -- I'm as entitled to post my opinions > here as YOU are. And when was the last time I made a post with > anything more than a passing reference to DTR, anyway? NFSPU and F12K > currently have my attention, so perhaps you'd better pull your head out > of Mr. Crammond's nether regions -- it seems to be impairing your > powers of observations.

Oh well, keep on screaming like a kid: It's bad, it's bad. I'm sure you'll appreciate some other kid doing the same about F12k or DTR. Imagine one of those responding to every post about GPL with: "But it's too fucking hard to drive those cars!" Yeah, we all would like that, ey? Hmm, did I call you a Ratbag ass kisser? Ever? -- l8er ronny Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

Hmmm, my wheel and pedals are homemade (homebrew), thats the way I wired the pedal pots to the 15 pin gameport plug... but basically its wired to a normal convention for wheel/pedals. Check out some web sites on wiring wheel/pedals and j/sticks. Dave Hawnt Steve Rosko wrote:

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> How do you select which axis are on which joy? I get wheel and clutch on > 1st and brake and gas on 2nd. How did you get wheel and gas on joy 1? > Steve > Dave Hawnt <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hey... this is the answer to split axis calibration in GP3, it's a real > arse > > way of doing it but it works! I tried as suggested and selected two 2 * > > axis j/sticks in W98, one on ID1 the other on ID2, I then calibrated > them... > > one axis for steering, one for throttle on the 1st J/stick (ID1), the I > > calibrated the brake and clutch on the other two axis on the 2nd j/stick > > (ID2). Phew!!! Then calibrated all four axis in GP3 under 'race > > controller'.... Joystick 'A' and 'B'. It transforms the handling of GP3 > to > > useit with split axis... I was previously using it under shared axis > > (hopeless). > > > > Thanks for the tip Gregor... this worked out well. BUT... why oh why is > > this not mention in the damb manual!!!! If information like this to > enable > > setting up a wheel and pedals is not in the manual, whats the point of > > buying s/ware, I may as well have d/loaded the warez version! > > > > Dave UK > > > > Gregor Veble wrote: > > > > > Alan Chandler wrote: > > > > > > > > Just bought GP3 and trying to set it up to run with my MS Sidewinder > > > > Pro just like I do in GPL > > > > > > > > A Joystick Hori Steering > > > > A Joystick Vert Throttle > > > > B Joystick (not sure which = throttle lever) Brake > > > > > > > > Firstly when calbrating Joy A GP3 only sees a range of 0-245 but I > > > > know the joystick always goes from 0-255 exactly (because its digital) > > > > > > > > Secondly when I move on to Joy B calibration it sees nothing at all > > > > > > > > Something lame here - how can I fix it? > > > > > > > > Alan > > > > > > > > [email hidden] > > > > http://www.chandler.u-net.com > > > > > > There was a tip on the net (I don't remember where exactly) that in > > > Windows Game controller panel you do not use the usual setup for your > > > steering wheel, but just select two (2) 2-axis, 2-buttons controllers, > > > as this is how GP3 sees the inputs. Calibrate all axes in Windows for > > > both `virtual' controllers, and use controller driven calibration in > > > GP3. That will give you split axis plus an additional clutch axis (if > > > your steering wheel has that). I do not know whether this interferes > > > with FF effects, though. > > > > > > -Gregor > >

On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 10:27:24 +0200 Gregor Veble <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >There was a tip on the net (I don't remember where exactly) that in >Windows Game controller panel you do not use the usual setup for your >steering wheel, but just select two (2) 2-axis, 2-buttons controllers, >as this is how GP3 sees the inputs. Calibrate all axes in Windows for >both `virtual' controllers, and use controller driven calibration in >GP3. That will give you split axis plus an additional clutch axis (if >your steering wheel has that).

Works a treat - thank you Alan [email hidden] http://www.chandler.u-net.com