Nascar Heat - A lesson to other game makers

I downloaded and installed Nascar Heat demo last night and I must say I'm impressed with the quality of this sim. The menus are laser fast and very straightforward. The controllers menu worked flawlessly and made it simple to set up my LWFF wheel. The benchmarking system is a great idea that every 3D game should have. Replays were cool and the stats menu with telemetry is another excellent implementation. The sim runs really well on my system with a P3600 and TNT2 (nonultra) at the highest resolution with all details on. Overall a nice package and I probably would buy it if Nascar sims didn't bore me so much. Jcharm

MGI (Moster Gaming something...) is the developer, the same ones who created Viper Racing. They are under Hasbro. ds Badlands wrote in message <12kl5.497$[email hidden]>...

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>Who's the developer? Is it Digital Illusions? Ha ha ha... then it's from >sweden and they ( I we),don't have clue..... > >Rgds Magnus > >Jcharm skrev i meddelandet ... >>I downloaded and installed Nascar Heat demo last night and I must say I'm >>impressed with the quality of this sim. The menus are laser fast and very >>straightforward. The controllers menu worked flawlessly and made it

simple >>to set up my LWFF wheel. The benchmarking system is a great idea that >every >>3D game should have. Replays were cool and the stats menu with telemetry >is >>another excellent implementation. The sim runs really well on my system >>with a P3600 and TNT2 (nonultra) at the highest resolution with alldetails

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>>on. >> >>Overall a nice package and I probably would buy it if Nascar sims didn't >>bore me so much. >> >>Jcharm >> >> > >

In article <QFjl5.75625$[email hidden]>, "Jcharm" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>I downloaded and installed Nascar Heat demo last night and I must say I'm >impressed with the quality of this sim. The menus are laser fast and very >straightforward. The controllers menu worked flawlessly and made it simple >to set up my LWFF wheel. The benchmarking system is a great idea that every >3D game should have. Replays were cool and the stats menu with telemetry is >another excellent implementation. The sim runs really well on my system >with a P3600 and TNT2 (nonultra) at the highest resolution with all details >on. > >Overall a nice package and I probably would buy it if Nascar sims didn't >bore me so much. > >Jcharm >

I'm curious. If you have no intention of buying the game because Nascar sims bore you so much, why did you take the time to download it? Besides that, you obviously played it enough to learn some of the features. Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +51.95 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

viper racing - arrr thought id played nascar heat before ! "Daniel Shirley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Whkl5.8844$[email hidden]... > MGI (Moster Gaming something...) is the developer, the same ones whocreated

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> Viper Racing. They are under Hasbro. > > ds > > Badlands wrote in message <12kl5.497$[email hidden]>... > >Who's the developer? Is it Digital Illusions? Ha ha ha... then it's from > >sweden and they ( I we),don't have clue..... > > > >Rgds Magnus > > > >Jcharm skrev i meddelandet ... > >>I downloaded and installed Nascar Heat demo last night and I must say

I'm > >>impressed with the quality of this sim. The menus are laser fast andvery > >>straightforward. The controllers menu worked flawlessly and made it > simple > >>to set up my LWFF wheel. The benchmarking system is a great idea that > >every > >>3D game should have. Replays were cool and the stats menu withtelemetry

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> >is > >>another excellent implementation. The sim runs really well on my system > >>with a P3600 and TNT2 (nonultra) at the highest resolution with all > details > >>on. > >> > >>Overall a nice package and I probably would buy it if Nascar sims didn't > >>bore me so much. > >> > >>Jcharm > >> > >> > > > > > >

Who's the developer? Is it Digital Illusions? Ha ha ha... then it's from sweden and they ( I we),don't have clue..... Rgds Magnus Jcharm skrev i meddelandet ... >I downloaded and installed Nascar Heat demo last night and I must say I'm >impressed with the quality of this sim. The menus are laser fast and very >straightforward. The controllers menu worked flawlessly and made it simple >to set up my LWFF wheel. The benchmarking system is a great idea thatevery >3D game should have. Replays were cool and the stats menu with telemetryis

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>another excellent implementation. The sim runs really well on my system >with a P3600 and TNT2 (nonultra) at the highest resolution with all details >on. > >Overall a nice package and I probably would buy it if Nascar sims didn't >bore me so much. > >Jcharm > >

In article <8n8eh6$mr7$[email hidden]>, "Ryan Mitchley" <[email hidden]> writes: >> Why's everybody always looking for a fight? > >Good question ;-) > >Ryan You think I was looking for a fight too? Sheesh, all I did was ask the man a question... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +51.31 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <7XLl5.79763$[email hidden]>, "Jcharm" <[email hidden]> writes: >Oh, you caught me, I just want to make trouble :) > > >> I'm curious. If you have no intention of buying the game > >Um, where did you read this? - not in my post. You said you'd probably buy it if Nascar sims didn't bore you so much. This implies that you're not going to buy it.

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> > >> because Nascar sims bore you so much, why did you take the time to >download it? > >Downloaded it in maybe 5 minutes - oooh, painfully long > >

Who knows, you might have had a 56K modem...

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>> Besides that, you obviously played it enough to learn some of the >features. > >Well, why wouldn't I? I love racing sims that's why I'm here. > >You see I actually bought Nascar 3 for full price and played it for quite a >while and then I uninstalled it. It's been so long I forgot why. Nascar >Heat just helped me remember what the problem was - not Nascar... Oval >tracks. To me it's just round and round and round and oh I'm drafting and >now I'm passing and now someone's passing me, but wait now I'm drafting >again and I'm passing - over and over and over. They bore the shit out of >me. If the demo included Watkins Glen instead of Daytona and Richmond I'd >be singing the praises. Wait a minute, my orginal post was full of praises, >so why are you coming down on me?

Where exactly did I 'come down' on you?

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> >Do you think I'm an F1 snob of some sort? Well no I'm not. I find watching >Nascar to be quite enjoyable - more so than most F1 races. > >Why's everybody always looking for a fight? > > >Lighten up dude,

Lighten up? You're imagining things. I never said you were ANY kind of snob. I'm not looking for a fight. If I was, I'd have called you names, or started swearing at you, or something. I simply asked an honest question. I was just surprised that someone who seemed fairly articulate and level-headed would take time to evaluate a program that they don't have interest in. I wouldn't download a demo for monster truck racing - I can't stand it. If you want a fight, look somewhere else. Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +51.31 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Oh, you caught me, I just want to make trouble :) > I'm curious. If you have no intention of buying the game Um, where did you read this? - not in my post. > because Nascar sims bore you so much, why did you take the time todownload it? Downloaded it in maybe 5 minutes - oooh, painfully long > Besides that, you obviously played it enough to learn some of thefeatures. Well, why wouldn't I? I love racing sims that's why I'm here. You see I actually bought Nascar 3 for full price and played it for quite a while and then I uninstalled it. It's been so long I forgot why. Nascar Heat just helped me remember what the problem was - not Nascar... Oval tracks. To me it's just round and round and round and oh I'm drafting and now I'm passing and now someone's passing me, but wait now I'm drafting again and I'm passing - over and over and over. They bore the shit out of me. If the demo included Watkins Glen instead of Daytona and Richmond I'd be singing the praises. Wait a minute, my orginal post was full of praises, so why are you coming down on me? Do you think I'm an F1 snob of some sort? Well no I'm not. I find watching Nascar to be quite enjoyable - more so than most F1 races. Why's everybody always looking for a fight? Lighten up dude, Jcharm . EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <QFjl5.75625$[email hidden]>, "Jcharm" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >I downloaded and installed Nascar Heat demo last night and I must say I'm > >impressed with the quality of this sim. The menus are laser fast andvery > >straightforward. The controllers menu worked flawlessly and made itsimple > >to set up my LWFF wheel. The benchmarking system is a great idea thatevery > >3D game should have. Replays were cool and the stats menu with telemetryis > >another excellent implementation. The sim runs really well on my system > >with a P3600 and TNT2 (nonultra) at the highest resolution with alldetails

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> >on. > > > >Overall a nice package and I probably would buy it if Nascar sims didn't > >bore me so much. > > > >Jcharm > > > > I'm curious. If you have no intention of buying the game because Nascar

sims > bore you so much, why did you take the time to download it? Besides that,you

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> obviously played it enough to learn some of the features. > > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +51.95 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"Jcharm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7XLl5.79763$[email hidden]... > You see I actually bought Nascar 3 for full price and played it for quitea

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> while and then I uninstalled it. It's been so long I forgot why. Nascar > Heat just helped me remember what the problem was - not Nascar... Oval > tracks. To me it's just round and round and round and oh I'm drafting and > now I'm passing and now someone's passing me, but wait now I'm drafting > again and I'm passing - over and over and over. They bore the shit out of > me. If the demo included Watkins Glen instead of Daytona and Richmond I'd > be singing the praises

My sentiments exactly. It makes me rather sad to see so much brilliant development time and effort going into an oval track game (just BTW, I will probably buy the game anyway - which requires begging my aunt visiting the States to get a copy!). A touring car or rally game (or sports car sim, naturally) with this level of quality would definitely have me foaming at the mouth. Dirt Track Sprints has me similarly frustrated . . . BTW, which of the NASCAR tracks are road courses? > Do you think I'm an F1 snob of some sort? Well no I'm not. I findwatching > Nascar to be quite enjoyable - more so than most F1 races. The aerodynamics of modern F1's are probably partly to blame, unfortunately. Oval racing has its moments, although there is nothing to compare with the experience of pitting your abilities against a track like Spa Francorchamps, Suzuka (or even the Hungaroring which I have come to really like). Road Atlanta in SCGT is another of my favourites. The feeling of weight transfer in a chicane, or outbraking an opponent at a hairpin, or the "rhythm" of a complex series of corners are just some of the experiences I really miss when racing ovals. > Why's everybody always looking for a fight? Good question ;-) Ryan

On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:35:24 +0200, "Ryan Mitchley" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>My sentiments exactly. It makes me rather sad to see so much brilliant >development time and effort going into an oval track game (just BTW, I will >probably buy the game anyway - which requires begging my aunt visiting the >States to get a copy!). A touring car or rally game (or sports car sim, >naturally) with this level of quality would definitely have me foaming at >the mouth. Dirt Track Sprints has me similarly frustrated . . . > >BTW, which of the NASCAR tracks are road courses?

Afaik Wakins Glen and Sears Point. I'm not too much into oval racing too, but the more and more I play NH, the more I start to enjoy it. I agree, I also would have preferred a toca game with this engine, and I've they're clever they will use this engine for all sorts of racing games (not like Papy who have a brillant engine and still haven't used it for another game, untill N4 comes out that is).

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>Oval racing has its moments, although there is nothing to compare with the >experience of pitting your abilities against a track like Spa Francorchamps, >Suzuka (or even the Hungaroring which I have come to really like). Road >Atlanta in SCGT is another of my favourites. The feeling of weight transfer >in a chicane, or outbraking an opponent at a hairpin, or the "rhythm" of a >complex series of corners are just some of the experiences I really miss >when racing ovals.

Isn't that the main difference? F1 is mainly about driving the track skill, Nascar is mainly about driving against other cars skill. Both have their charms. Andre

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> >> Why's everybody always looking for a fight? > >Good question ;-) > >Ryan > > > >