1GHz Intel or AMD and advice on sim pc

I need advice friends, on building a new system. I have waited till processors reaached 1GHz and have a quote from Thor-tek but they only have the 933 plll and AMD 1GHz chip ... Is the Intel chip available else where? I would like to have the option of future upgradeability. KGH Here is the system quote : http://www.thortek.com Product Description Price ==================================================== Intel PIII Slot 1 933Mhz 133 256KB OEM 3yr Wty/Fan 849.00 Maxtor DiamondMax 10.2GB Ultra ATA/66 :91024U3 99.00 Generic PC133Mhz SDRAM 168-Pin 128MB 7,8ns Memory 169.00 Creative Labs Annihilator Pro Geforce Video Card 275.00 Creative Labs Sound Blaster Platinum Sound card 179.00 Pioneer 16X DVD/40X CD-Rom Internal IDE DVD Drive 133.00 Creative Labs 56K PCI Data/Voice/Fax Modem Retail 45.00 ThorTek Hydraulic Black Mid-Tower ATX Case 250W 109.00 Asus P3C2000 Slot 1 350-733MHz Motherboard:P3C2000 169.00 Teac 1.4MB 3.5" Black Floppy Drive : FD235HFBLK 25.00 ==================================================== Subtotal: 2052.00 ====================================

If you really have a hard-on for a fast processor that will be upgradeable, then you might want to wait another month or three... As Intel is supposed to be offering their Pentum 4 1Gig+ processors, and AMD is also to announce some new/improved chips too... Also, I'd stay away from "generic" RAM... I've had several friends who have purchaced "generic" RAM from Pricewatch.com and have been burned! And... If your gonna spend $100 for a 10 gig drive, you might as well, spend a little more and go with a 20-40 gig instead! Hell for an extra $100 you could tripple or even quadruple your dive space! Also, go for a 7200 speed drive too! You may also want to compare http://www.alienware.com or www.falcon-nw.com for comparison pricing on a similar equipped system. I just purchaced a system from Falcon NW 933 Mhz PIII with an Asus P34VX motherboard, a Maxtor DiamondMAX 40 gig drive, 128meg PC 133 SDRAM, SoundBlaster Live X-Gamer, Ge-Force 2 GTS 64 Meg Hercules AGP video card, plus numerious other goodies. It rocks! You should see how they wired everthing inside the case! Excellent cooling, very professional job, and they loaded and tested everything out, including one of my racing games.... But.... It took two weeks longer to deliver than they originally told me, and the keyboard they shipped had a broken foot, and appeared like it may have been either used, or the person who worked with it to set up my system had awfully dirty hands! They are replacing the keyboard and paying the shipping costs to/from, but it's out of stock for a week or so (ya right, I can buy the same thing from CompUSA or BestBuy today!) but hey... It's being shipped to me for free so I can't really bitch too much... Still I would do it all over again without a doubt just to save the hassles of building and configuring, and troubleshooting my own system. If you want email me at [email hidden] (remove the nospam part) and I can fill you in on more details about my expreinces with Falcon NW. Cheers! JJ KGH <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I need advice friends, on building a new system. I have waited tillprocessors > reaached 1GHz and have a quote from Thor-tek but they only have the 933plll > and AMD 1GHz chip ... Is the Intel chip available else where? I would liketo

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> have the option of future upgradeability. > > KGH > > Here is the system quote : > > http://www.thortek.com > > Product Description Price > ==================================================== > Intel PIII Slot 1 933Mhz 133 256KB OEM 3yr Wty/Fan 849.00 > > Maxtor DiamondMax 10.2GB Ultra ATA/66 :91024U3 99.00 > > Generic PC133Mhz SDRAM 168-Pin 128MB 7,8ns Memory 169.00 > > Creative Labs Annihilator Pro Geforce Video Card 275.00 > > Creative Labs Sound Blaster Platinum Sound card 179.00 > > Pioneer 16X DVD/40X CD-Rom Internal IDE DVD Drive 133.00 > > Creative Labs 56K PCI Data/Voice/Fax Modem Retail 45.00 > > ThorTek Hydraulic Black Mid-Tower ATX Case 250W 109.00 > > Asus P3C2000 Slot 1 350-733MHz Motherboard:P3C2000 169.00 > > Teac 1.4MB 3.5" Black Floppy Drive : FD235HFBLK 25.00 > ==================================================== > Subtotal: 2052.00 > > > ==================================== >

I think the rule of thumb for pricewatch.com is not to buy from those who are at rock bottom prices. "Jay J" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:melm5.26766$[email hidden]... > If you really have a hard-on for a fast processor that will beupgradeable, > then you might want to wait another month or three... As Intel is supposed > to be offering their Pentum 4 1Gig+ processors, and AMD is also toannounce > some new/improved chips too... > > Also, I'd stay away from "generic" RAM... I've had several friends whohave > purchaced "generic" RAM from Pricewatch.com and have been burned! > > And... If your gonna spend $100 for a 10 gig drive, you might as well,spend

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> a little more and go with a 20-40 gig instead! Hell for an extra $100 you > could tripple or even quadruple your dive space! Also, go for a 7200 speed > drive too! > > You may also want to compare http://www.alienware.com > or www.falcon-nw.com for comparison pricing on a similar equipped system. > > I just purchaced a system from Falcon NW 933 Mhz PIII with an Asus P34VX > motherboard, a Maxtor DiamondMAX 40 gig drive, 128meg PC 133 SDRAM, > SoundBlaster Live X-Gamer, Ge-Force 2 GTS 64 Meg Hercules AGP video card, > plus numerious other goodies. > > It rocks! You should see how they wired everthing inside the case!

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> cooling, very professional job, and they loaded and tested everything out, > including one of my racing games.... But.... It took two weeks longer to > deliver than they originally told me, and the keyboard they shipped had a > broken foot, and appeared like it may have been either used, or the person > who worked with it to set up my system had awfully dirty hands! They are > replacing the keyboard and paying the shipping costs to/from, but it's out > of stock for a week or so (ya right, I can buy the same thing from CompUSA > or BestBuy today!) but hey... It's being shipped to me for free so I can't > really bitch too much... > > Still I would do it all over again without a doubt just to save the

hassles > of building and configuring, and troubleshooting my own system. > > If you want email me at [email hidden] (remove the nospampart)

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> and I can fill you in on more details about my expreinces with Falcon NW. > > Cheers! > JJ > > > > KGH <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I need advice friends, on building a new system. I have waited till > processors > > reaached 1GHz and have a quote from Thor-tek but they only have the 933 > plll > > and AMD 1GHz chip ... Is the Intel chip available else where? I would

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> to > > have the option of future upgradeability. > > > > KGH > > > > Here is the system quote : > > > > http://www.thortek.com > > > > Product Description Price > > ==================================================== > > Intel PIII Slot 1 933Mhz 133 256KB OEM 3yr Wty/Fan 849.00 > > > > Maxtor DiamondMax 10.2GB Ultra ATA/66 :91024U3 99.00 > > > > Generic PC133Mhz SDRAM 168-Pin 128MB 7,8ns Memory 169.00 > > > > Creative Labs Annihilator Pro Geforce Video Card 275.00 > > > > Creative Labs Sound Blaster Platinum Sound card 179.00 > > > > Pioneer 16X DVD/40X CD-Rom Internal IDE DVD Drive 133.00 > > > > Creative Labs 56K PCI Data/Voice/Fax Modem Retail 45.00 > > > > ThorTek Hydraulic Black Mid-Tower ATX Case 250W 109.00 > > > > Asus P3C2000 Slot 1 350-733MHz Motherboard:P3C2000 169.00 > > > > Teac 1.4MB 3.5" Black Floppy Drive : FD235HFBLK 25.00 > > ==================================================== > > Subtotal: 2052.00 > > > > > > ==================================== > > > >

I think you'd have to be an absolute FOOL to buy an intel P3 933 for $849 when you can get a AMD Thunderbird 1GHz for $479. http://www.tcwo.com On 15 Aug 2000 21:57:58 GMT, [email hidden] (KGH) wrote:

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>I need advice friends, on building a new system. I have waited till processors >reaached 1GHz and have a quote from Thor-tek but they only have the 933 plll >and AMD 1GHz chip ... Is the Intel chip available else where? I would like to >have the option of future upgradeability. > >KGH > >Here is the system quote : > >http://www.thortek.com > >Product Description Price >==================================================== >Intel PIII Slot 1 933Mhz 133 256KB OEM 3yr Wty/Fan 849.00 > >Maxtor DiamondMax 10.2GB Ultra ATA/66 :91024U3 99.00 > >Generic PC133Mhz SDRAM 168-Pin 128MB 7,8ns Memory 169.00 > >Creative Labs Annihilator Pro Geforce Video Card 275.00 > >Creative Labs Sound Blaster Platinum Sound card 179.00 > >Pioneer 16X DVD/40X CD-Rom Internal IDE DVD Drive 133.00 > >Creative Labs 56K PCI Data/Voice/Fax Modem Retail 45.00 > >ThorTek Hydraulic Black Mid-Tower ATX Case 250W 109.00 > >Asus P3C2000 Slot 1 350-733MHz Motherboard:P3C2000 169.00 > >Teac 1.4MB 3.5" Black Floppy Drive : FD235HFBLK 25.00 >==================================================== > Subtotal: 2052.00 > > >====================================

"KGH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I need advice friends, on building a new system. I have waited tillprocessors > reaached 1GHz and have a quote from Thor-tek but they only have the 933plll > and AMD 1GHz chip ... Is the Intel chip available else where? I would liketo

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> have the option of future upgradeability. > > KGH > > Here is the system quote : > > http://www.thortek.com > > Product Description Price > ==================================================== > Intel PIII Slot 1 933Mhz 133 256KB OEM 3yr Wty/Fan 849.00

Your best value is always the second or third fastest chip available. This week you can get the PIII-800EB/133 for $279. Much better bang for your buck. Check weekly processor prices at http://www.sharkeyextreme.com/hardware/weekly_cpu/ > > Maxtor DiamondMax 10.2GB Ultra ATA/66 :91024U3 99.00 Too small!! You'll fill that baby up in no time. Get at least a 30GB. > > Generic PC133Mhz SDRAM 168-Pin 128MB 7,8ns Memory 169.00 Be careful with generic memory. It often isn't compatible. Go with Corsair or Mushkin in most instances. As far as I know, PC133 won't work with the P3C-2000 board. I could be wrong, but I read at least one review saying the board supports PC100 SDRAM. If you switch to the Asus CUSL2 motherboard, PC133 SDRAM will work. > Asus P3C2000 Slot 1 350-733MHz Motherboard:P3C2000 169.00 You're better off with the Asus CUSL2 motherboard. The P3C-2000 uses the Intel 820 chipset, which was designed to work with RDRAM. Intel patched the chipset with a Memory Translator Hub to enable the use of PC100 SDRAM, but not that efficiently. Get the Asus CUSL2 motherboard instead. It uses the 815 chipset, and PC133 SDRAM. Here's a link to a motherboard shootout comparing 815 boards: http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1291 -- <remove 7of9 for e-mail replies> -- Bill Jones e-mail addresses: Computer Sciences Corp. (work) [email hidden] New London, Connecticut (play) [email hidden] (860) 701-1201 WWW: http://pages.cthome.net/billj

>> >> Maxtor DiamondMax 10.2GB Ultra ATA/66 :91024U3 99.00 > >Too small!! You'll fill that baby up in no time. Get at least a 30GB. > >> WHAT? I had a 2.1 gig for a couple three years and it's still only half full! hmm.. 30 gig would probably last me 50 years, jeesh ;-)

I just installed a 45gig IBM ATA-100 drive in my new system <VBG> -- Scott B. Husted PA-Scott ICQ# 4395450 "Mike Barlow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bcEm5.4172$[email hidden]... > > > >> > >> Maxtor DiamondMax 10.2GB Ultra ATA/66 :91024U3 99.00 > > > >Too small!! You'll fill that baby up in no time. Get at least a 30GB. > > > >> > > > WHAT? I had a 2.1 gig for a couple three years and it's still only half > full! hmm.. 30 gig would probably last me 50 years, jeesh ;-) > >

In article <bcEm5.4172$[email hidden]>, "Mike Barlow" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>>> >>> Maxtor DiamondMax 10.2GB Ultra ATA/66 :91024U3 99.00 >> >>Too small!! You'll fill that baby up in no time. Get at least a 30GB. >> >>> > > > WHAT? I had a 2.1 gig for a couple three years and it's still only half >full! hmm.. 30 gig would probably last me 50 years, jeesh ;-) >

When I bought a 13GB, I thought I'd *never* fill that thing up. Well, it's now my SECOND drive in the system - the primary is a 27GB...<g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +51.31 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> >>>> >>>> Maxtor DiamondMax 10.2GB Ultra ATA/66 :91024U3 99.00 >>> >>>Too small!! You'll fill that baby up in no time. Get at least a 30GB. >>> >> >> WHAT? I had a 2.1 gig for a couple three years and it's still only

half >>full! hmm.. 30 gig would probably last me 50 years, jeesh ;-) >> >When I bought a 13GB, I thought I'd *never* fill that thing up. Well, it'snow >my SECOND drive in the system - the primary is a 27GB...<g> > DOH! Out of all that, how much of it is filled with things you use?

"Scott B. Husted" wrote: > > I just installed a 45gig IBM ATA-100 drive in my new system <VBG> That's a little easier. I did it the hard way, 2 15GB's & a 13GB. Actually one of the 15's is new, because I had to replace an 8GB that had a head crash the other day. One 15GB dedicated to Linux, 10 of the 15GB on the other dedicated to FreeBSD, and the 13GB for Windoze along with the remaining 5GB from the BSD drive. Got about 6GB free on the Windows drive, I've *really* cleaned house on it lately. -- Chuck Kandler Windows--computing for the Unwashed Masses Registered Linux User #180746 http://counter.li.org

On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 22:02:47 GMT, "Mike Barlow" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> > >>> >>> Maxtor DiamondMax 10.2GB Ultra ATA/66 :91024U3 99.00 >> >>Too small!! You'll fill that baby up in no time. Get at least a 30GB. >> >>> > > > WHAT? I had a 2.1 gig for a couple three years and it's still only half >full! hmm.. 30 gig would probably last me 50 years, jeesh ;-) >

I have a 13 gig with 2 gigs free. It would be full but I usually uninstall something to install something else so that it doesnt fill right up. Time for a larger one here. :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Skotty Flynn "skotty20" Nascar-Racing-Sims.Com: http://www.nascar-racing-sims.com The Ultimate Sim Racing Directory: http://www.nascar-racing-sims.com/directory/

Maxtor just released the largest ever hard drive at 80 gigs. These really large hard drives would sure take some time to defrag if they were full. :) On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 21:00:05 -0400, "Scott B. Husted" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I just installed a 45gig IBM ATA-100 drive in my new system <VBG>

Skotty, There is a reason they created Partioning ;) -- Scott B. Husted "PA-Scott" News Editor - The Pits (http://www.TheUSPits.com) ICQ# 4395450

In article <84_m5.6913$[email hidden]>, "Mike Barlow" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>>When I bought a 13GB, I thought I'd *never* fill that thing up. Well, it's >now >>my SECOND drive in the system - the primary is a 27GB...<g> >> > > DOH! Out of all that, how much of it is filled with things you use? >

Um...er, well at least HALF... :) Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +51.31 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.