"Se busca simulador"...some thoughts

Charming, the humor of some in this newsgroup. Should he (and other non-English fluent individuals) try to post in English? IMHO, of course, and some of them do, even if it can invite mockery of their limited English language skills. However: I confess to never having actually read the group's faq, but just politely telling him to post in English would have been enough, and as a native Spanish-speaker, I can tell you I would not be offended by that. I'm pretty sure we can do without language/cultural slurs. I haven't seen similar "humorous" responses whenever someone posts here in German, French, or Italian, although it must be because we don't have handy Taco Bell commercials applicable to those cultures, from which we can draw "humor" from (not that it would make anyone happier - two wrongs don't make a right). Now, the above is not directed at most people in this group. As a group, you guys are some of the most helpful, coolest individuals around, never above helping people and sharing their experiences, forgiving people like me when they make dumb mistakes (like spoiling the results of a race), and giving equal respect to those puttering along in the 1:38s at Monza and those flying in the 1:27s (couldn't resist a GPL reference there). But those whose attention I'd like to call know who they are. For those who might want to help, he's asking if anyone knows of a driving-instruction type simulator. Not racing simulators, but a program that school or municipal entities might use to teach people how to drive. My response to him was that I thought Sierra had something like that out not too long ago. In retrospect, I should have pointed out that he'd get more responses from us if he could post again in English (my bad). L.S.

I agree with you, However, I want to go a step further. I think everyone should be allowed to post in his native language if het doesn't speak English, especially since there are few race-sim newsgroups in other languages (I haven't found any in the languages that I speak apart from English). How often will it happen that one posts in another language? Maybe once a week. Shouldn't be a problem. Anyone who doesn't understand that language, can simply skip the thread. Here in the Netherlands we say "Leven en laten leven".... > Charming, the humor of some in this newsgroup. Should he (and other > non-English fluent individuals) try to post in English? IMHO, of course, > and some of them do, even if it can invite mockery of their limitedEnglish > language skills. However: I confess to never having actually read the > group's faq, but just politely telling him to post in English would have > been enough, and as a native Spanish-speaker, I can tell you I would notbe > offended by that. I'm pretty sure we can do without language/cultural > slurs. I haven't seen similar "humorous" responses whenever someone posts > here in German, French, or Italian, although it must be because we don't > have handy Taco Bell commercials applicable to those cultures, from whichwe > can draw "humor" from (not that it would make anyone happier - two wrongs > don't make a right). > > Now, the above is not directed at most people in this group. As a group, > you guys are some of the most helpful, coolest individuals around, never > above helping people and sharing their experiences, forgiving people likeme

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> when they make dumb mistakes (like spoiling the results of a race), and > giving equal respect to those puttering along in the 1:38s at Monza and > those flying in the 1:27s (couldn't resist a GPL reference there). But > those whose attention I'd like to call know who they are. > > For those who might want to help, he's asking if anyone knows of a > driving-instruction type simulator. Not racing simulators, but a program > that school or municipal entities might use to teach people how to drive. > My response to him was that I thought Sierra had something like that out

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> too long ago. In retrospect, I should have pointed out that he'd get more > responses from us if he could post again in English (my bad). > > L.S. > > >

Gracias por la repuesta! "Luis Soto" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Charming, the humor of some in this newsgroup. Should he (and other > non-English fluent individuals) try to post in English? IMHO, of course, > and some of them do, even if it can invite mockery of their limitedEnglish > language skills. However: I confess to never having actually read the > group's faq, but just politely telling him to post in English would have > been enough, and as a native Spanish-speaker, I can tell you I would notbe > offended by that. I'm pretty sure we can do without language/cultural > slurs. I haven't seen similar "humorous" responses whenever someone posts > here in German, French, or Italian, although it must be because we don't > have handy Taco Bell commercials applicable to those cultures, from whichwe > can draw "humor" from (not that it would make anyone happier - two wrongs > don't make a right). > > Now, the above is not directed at most people in this group. As a group, > you guys are some of the most helpful, coolest individuals around, never > above helping people and sharing their experiences, forgiving people likeme

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> when they make dumb mistakes (like spoiling the results of a race), and > giving equal respect to those puttering along in the 1:38s at Monza and > those flying in the 1:27s (couldn't resist a GPL reference there). But > those whose attention I'd like to call know who they are. > > For those who might want to help, he's asking if anyone knows of a > driving-instruction type simulator. Not racing simulators, but a program > that school or municipal entities might use to teach people how to drive. > My response to him was that I thought Sierra had something like that out

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> too long ago. In retrospect, I should have pointed out that he'd get more > responses from us if he could post again in English (my bad). > > L.S. > > >

There IS a program like he's talking about. Unfortunately, I can't recall the name. It has a virtual city with real-life (various US state) traffic laws to obey. I saw it in an educational software section and have only seen it in one store (Virgin Records). Todd Wasson

Hay una programa hecho por "Sierra". Lo Se llama "Drivers Education". Yo se es software solomente para aprender manejar y obtener la liciensia para usar los coches. -Buena Suerte Mira la sita www.sierra.com "JTW62074" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > There IS a program like he's talking about. Unfortunately, I can'trecall > the name. It has a virtual city with real-life (various US state) trafficlaws > to obey. I saw it in an educational software section and have only seenit in > one store (Virgin Records). > > Todd Wasson

Agreed 100% (from here in Canada). Marc. "Han Monsees" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8nckua$gbl$[email hidden]... > I agree with you, > > However, I want to go a step further. I think everyone should be allowedto > post in his native language if het doesn't speak English, especially since > there are few race-sim newsgroups in other languages (I haven't found anyin

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> the languages that I speak apart from English). How often will it happen > that one posts in another language? Maybe once a week. Shouldn't be a > problem. Anyone who doesn't understand that language, can simply skip the > thread. > > Here in the Netherlands we say "Leven en laten leven".... > > > Charming, the humor of some in this newsgroup. Should he (and other > > non-English fluent individuals) try to post in English? IMHO, of

course,

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> > and some of them do, even if it can invite mockery of their limited > English > > language skills. However: I confess to never having actually read the > > group's faq, but just politely telling him to post in English would have > > been enough, and as a native Spanish-speaker, I can tell you I would not > be > > offended by that. I'm pretty sure we can do without language/cultural > > slurs. I haven't seen similar "humorous" responses whenever someone

posts > > here in German, French, or Italian, although it must be because we don't > > have handy Taco Bell commercials applicable to those cultures, fromwhich > we > > can draw "humor" from (not that it would make anyone happier - twowrongs > > don't make a right). > > > > Now, the above is not directed at most people in this group. As agroup, > > you guys are some of the most helpful, coolest individuals around, never > > above helping people and sharing their experiences, forgiving peoplelike

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> me > > when they make dumb mistakes (like spoiling the results of a race), and > > giving equal respect to those puttering along in the 1:38s at Monza and > > those flying in the 1:27s (couldn't resist a GPL reference there). But > > those whose attention I'd like to call know who they are. > > > > For those who might want to help, he's asking if anyone knows of a > > driving-instruction type simulator. Not racing simulators, but a

program > > that school or municipal entities might use to teach people how todrive. > > My response to him was that I thought Sierra had something like that out > not > > too long ago. In retrospect, I should have pointed out that he'd getmore

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> > responses from us if he could post again in English (my bad). > > > > L.S. > > > > > > > >

On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 19:26:15 -0400, "Luis Soto" <[email hidden]> wrote: >For those who might want to help, he's asking if anyone knows of a >driving-instruction type simulator. Not racing simulators, but a program >that school or municipal entities might use to teach people how to drive. >My response to him was that I thought Sierra had something like that out not >too long ago. In retrospect, I should have pointed out that he'd get more >responses from us if he could post again in English (my bad). According to Babel Fish, this is what he asked: __________________ Greetings to the group. It knows somebody some good program simulator cars that is gratuitous? I talk about races of you run, neither to formula 1, nor like which it is looked to him, but to simulators similar to which uses in the driving schools to learn to lead. If it is thus, of what page I can lower it gratuitously? Thank you very much. __________________ I think the clumsy mechanical translation is pretty funny regardless of the propriety of the group towards this person. ~daxe

daxe <[email hidden]> writes:

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> On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 19:26:15 -0400, "Luis Soto" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >For those who might want to help, he's asking if anyone knows of a > >driving-instruction type simulator. Not racing simulators, but a program > >that school or municipal entities might use to teach people how to drive. > >My response to him was that I thought Sierra had something like that out not > >too long ago. In retrospect, I should have pointed out that he'd get more > >responses from us if he could post again in English (my bad). > > > According to Babel Fish, this is what he asked:

Babelfish is not a good platform for interlingual communication :) -- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying

Luis Soto <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > For those who might want to help, he's asking if anyone knows of a > driving-instruction type simulator. Not racing simulators, but a program > that school or municipal entities might use to teach people how to drive. > My response to him was that I thought Sierra had something like that outnot > too long ago. In retrospect, I should have pointed out that he'd get more > responses from us if he could post again in English (my bad). > > L.S. Spanish speakers may also like to check out Tim Wheatley's excellent forum page. There is a Spanish language race sim forum included there. The URL is http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml Cheers Phil -- F1 GPL Handicap: +60.36 secs F2 GPL Handicap: +147.17 secs http://www.youpies.co.uk

On 16 Aug 2000 10:23:27 +0200, [email hidden] (Olav K. Malmin) wrote: >Babelfish is not a good platform for interlingual communication :) but it *is* pretty funny. ~daxe

Luis Soto wrote: > > Charming, the humor of some in this newsgroup. Should he (and other > non-English fluent individuals) try to post in English? IMHO, of course, > and some of them do, even if it can invite mockery of their limited English > language skills. However: I confess to never having actually read the I guess, you have to get used to it, it's Usenet. Just ignore them.

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> group's faq, but just politely telling him to post in English would have > been enough, and as a native Spanish-speaker, I can tell you I would not be > offended by that. I'm pretty sure we can do without language/cultural > slurs. I haven't seen similar "humorous" responses whenever someone posts > here in German, French, or Italian, although it must be because we don't > have handy Taco Bell commercials applicable to those cultures, from which we > can draw "humor" from (not that it would make anyone happier - two wrongs > don't make a right).

As long as there is no language mentioned in the name of the ng, as in e.g. de.alt.games.quake, you're not required to speak English. OTOH, the chances of getting an answer are a lot better if you do. -- l8er ronny Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!