I was thinking about this yesterday... my prediction is there will be some
talk about it, but not anywhere near the level as it was for GP3.
Brian
Marc Collins <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:59mm5.158109$[email hidden]...
> When there is a decent demo and the developers are here helping us and
> answering our questions honestly, there is no need for the warez version.I
that
> > you normally see about that time? Just wondering
> >
> >
>
>
No NASCAR Heat warez, and the US-only release
Vintook asked why no pirated copies of NASCAR Heat had surfaced after it went gold, unlike GP3. Many credited the pre-release demo and tight beta team, and Monster Games' Ed Martin said warez links would help their lawyers and urged overseas buyers to order online. Europeans complained about the US-only release and import costs, and the long thread drifted into arguments about the ethics and effects of piracy.
With Ed Martin (Monster Games)
Automated summary.
I'm not holding your post against you Vintook ;-) It makes no difference to
me anymore...
Anyways, It seems the NH beta test team is a very good one, the GP3 final
was probably leaked by a beta tester in my opinion, as every piece of
software I've tested I've had the pre-release/final before official release.
If you feel need to inquire, I'm testing right now for Microprose on a
flight sim, I'm testing soon for Blue Byte for a strategy game, and I've
tested in the past for various...
Anyways, don't worry about it, I know lots of people (including me) preach
about not doing stuff, but you're free to not reply to those posts, and
you're free to totally ignore them, it's up to you, bear in mind it is
illegal, and it does hurt people like Ed to find that people from the USA
with access to it would actually download it. I'm from the UK and had my
order in quite some time ago from Chips n bits which was linked on
www.nascar-racing-sims.com .
My personal opinion of warez is that, if you do it, fine, that's up to you,
but you should not provide links in a public manner to 'shove' it into
people's faces, for example, the moderators on my forums are told to remove
links from any posts linking to warez, the posts may remain but url is
edited out.
Anyways, don't worry 'bout it.
--
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Vintook <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:YgDm5.44276$[email hidden]...
> LOL, I know, look at the thread I started, heheheh. Anyway I don't support
> warez and will be the first in line at the store to purchase NH. I just
> wanted inquire why nobody had posted a message about warez yet. When
GP3(2.5
> really) went gold the warez was out that afternoon and from what I read it
> was the actual gold copy. Why was that? Europeans not very copyright
> friendly? Beta team not copyright friendly? Crammond himself put it out to
> act as a kind of demo?
> Now you have NH gone gold and nothing. Strange huh, at least I thought so.
I
> think it just shows that the beta team was good, it is released in the US
> and releasing a demo negates the need for warez. When GPL went gold was
> there warez copies? I don't remember any, same story. I say good job MGI!
>
> Vintook
>
> "Ed Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:2tym5.414$[email hidden]...
> > It's great to see posts like this from the community. Thanks, Vintook -
> you
> > really make this newsgroup a wonderful place to hang out & support.
> >
> >
> > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]...
> > > Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about warez
> that
> > > you normally see about that time? Just wondering
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>Demo or not, developers or not, there is no excuse for the pathetic way
>people behaved with regard to the GP3 warez.
>
>David G Fisher
You are 100% right...And they've done a good thing by releasing a demo BEFORE
the game comes out. That takes away the "I wanted to try it first", excuse.
>Actually, I hope they do post the warez links here. It makes it a lot
>easier for our lawyers to go after them.
Have you ever condidered going after the person who posted the link, or people
who are on here openly claiming to have the warez version?
I'm just curious, but I'd like to see it happen.
>Or you could do the right thing & order it online. Just because we don't
>distribute it in your country does not make it right or legal to steal it.
For a lot of people in this ng the excuse for GP3 was "I'm getting the
warez because it's not out here until next month"... :-))
--
Cheers!
Graeme Nash
Errr yes, even before it wen't gold, actually, but people had the good sense
not to "soil" RAS with it back then.
Jan.
=---
Vintook wrote...
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> When GPL went gold was there warez copies? I > don't remember any, same story. I say good > job MGI! > > Vintook > > "Ed Martin" wrote... > > <snip>First game I bought online I didn't pay by credit card, I phoned them up and
within 5 mins I had arranged cheque payment, ask you bank for exchange
details.
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Alan <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> Yeah, but that said we *really* don't want "Rednex Bunny Huntin' 4" and
it's
> like over here do we ;)
>
> BTW. Bit stuffed ordering online when you don't have, or intend to own, a
credit
> card. oh, and I'm not gonna go asking to borrow one either.
>
> Alan.
>
> Tim Wheatley wrote:
>
> > "You people from the UK"? Get real.
> >
> > I've already ordered NH, and check out some stats before you start
spouting
> > that stuff, there are lots more software titles marked as Americas only.
> >
> > --
> > Tim,
> > [email hidden]|[email hidden]
> > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your
league...
> > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on
gpl...
> > Alex Kihurani <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > news:UoAm5.1696$[email hidden]...
> > > Correct. You people from UK don't understand what us Americans have
been
> > > doing importing games. So far I've bought GP3, Rally Masters, RC2K,
and
> > > Colin McCrae Rally imports. It's not much, here we have Interact CD in
CA,
> > > so it was relitivly cheap :) But I know ordering from the US isn't
much at
> > > all, just like $10 extra. It's not like games are that expensive, I'm
13
> > and
> > > have a paper route and can afford buying 3 games a month.
> > >
> > > Bunch of cheap basterds ;)
> > >
> > > For the 2nd best sim so far, I think they deserve every penny.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Alex
> > > Ed Martin <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > > news:JHzm5.423$[email hidden]...
> > > > Or you could do the right thing & order it online. Just because we
> > don't
> > > > distribute it in your country does not make it right or legal to
steal
> > it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Alan Coates" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > > > news:%nzm5.12696$[email hidden]...
> > > > > As my enquiries lead me to believe that NH is not going to be
released
> > > in
> > > > UK
> > > > > then all I can say is HURRY UP WAREZ!
> > > > >
> > > > > Probably make a few copies and hand the around.
> > > > >
> > > > > Alan
> > > > >
> > > > > > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]...
> > > > > > > Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about
> > warez
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > you normally see about that time? Just wondering
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
hehehe :-)
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Ed Martin <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:qgCm5.429$[email hidden]...
> Actually, I hope they do post the warez links here. It makes it a lot
> easier for our lawyers to go after them.
>
> "Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:8neo1s$1vt$[email hidden]...
> > Exactly Ed, I said this when they did it about GP3, if they want to do
it,
> > fine, but they should keep it out of this newsgroup, and they should
keep
> > warez links (url's) WAY out of this newsgroup.
> >
> > I apologise on his behalf.
> >
> > --
> > Tim,
> > [email hidden]|[email hidden]
> > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your
> league...
> > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on
> gpl...
> > Ed Martin <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > news:2tym5.414$[email hidden]...
> > > It's great to see posts like this from the community. Thanks,
Vintook -
> > you
> > > really make this newsgroup a wonderful place to hang out & support.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > > news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]...
> > > > Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about warez
> > that
> > > > you normally see about that time? Just wondering
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Exactly Ed, I said this when they did it about GP3, if they want to do it,
fine, but they should keep it out of this newsgroup, and they should keep
warez links (url's) WAY out of this newsgroup.
I apologise on his behalf.
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Ed Martin <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:2tym5.414$[email hidden]...
> It's great to see posts like this from the community. Thanks, Vintook -
you
> really make this newsgroup a wonderful place to hang out & support.
>
>
> "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]...
> > Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about warez
that
> > you normally see about that time? Just wondering
> >
> >
>
>
"You people from the UK"? Get real.
I've already ordered NH, and check out some stats before you start spouting
that stuff, there are lots more software titles marked as Americas only.
--
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Alex Kihurani <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:UoAm5.1696$[email hidden]...
> Correct. You people from UK don't understand what us Americans have been
> doing importing games. So far I've bought GP3, Rally Masters, RC2K, and
> Colin McCrae Rally imports. It's not much, here we have Interact CD in CA,
> so it was relitivly cheap :) But I know ordering from the US isn't much at
> all, just like $10 extra. It's not like games are that expensive, I'm 13
and
> have a paper route and can afford buying 3 games a month.
>
> Bunch of cheap basterds ;)
>
> For the 2nd best sim so far, I think they deserve every penny.
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
> Ed Martin <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:JHzm5.423$[email hidden]...
> > Or you could do the right thing & order it online. Just because we
don't
> > distribute it in your country does not make it right or legal to steal
it.
> >
> >
> > "Alan Coates" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > news:%nzm5.12696$[email hidden]...
> > > As my enquiries lead me to believe that NH is not going to be released
> in
> > UK
> > > then all I can say is HURRY UP WAREZ!
> > >
> > > Probably make a few copies and hand the around.
> > >
> > > Alan
> > >
> > > > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > > > news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]...
> > > > > Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about
warez
> > > that
> > > > > you normally see about that time? Just wondering
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
I would think someone would be selling it at a fair mail order price? I
purchased Rally Masters from a US company.
J. Janasov
Ryan Mitchley <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:8ndmna$k8c$[email hidden]...
>
> "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:59mm5.158109$[email hidden]...
> > When there is a decent demo and the developers are here helping us and
> > answering our questions honestly, there is no need for the warezversion.
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> I > > sincerely hope there is not a word of it here if and when one comes out. > > > > Marc. > > Unfortunately there's a different twist in this case - namely the > U.S.A.-only release. > > (Isn't this legally grounds to break copyright in some countries? I'm sure > I've heard this rumour somewhere) > > Ryan > > >Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about warez that
you normally see about that time? Just wondering
Vintook <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]...
> Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about warez that
> you normally see about that time? Just wondering
>
>
Being on the development team I have really enjoyed all the discussion about
NH. However, of all the posts I have read I think this one pleases me
most! :)
yes indeed a very tight lipped beta group.looks like no pre release warez.
When there is a decent demo and the developers are here helping us and
answering our questions honestly, there is no need for the warez version. I
sincerely hope there is not a word of it here if and when one comes out.
Marc.
"Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]...
> Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about warez that
> you normally see about that time? Just wondering
>
>
Demo or not, developers or not, there is no excuse for the pathetic way
people behaved with regard to the GP3 warez.
David G Fisher
"Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:59mm5.158109$[email hidden]...
> When there is a decent demo and the developers are here helping us and
> answering our questions honestly, there is no need for the warez version.I
that
> > you normally see about that time? Just wondering
> >
> >
>
>
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> sincerely hope there is not a word of it here if and when one comes out. > > Marc. > > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]... > > Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about warezOn Wed, 16 Aug 2000 00:44:24 GMT, "etcher" <[email hidden]> thus
spoke:
>>Being on the development team I have really enjoyed all the discussion about
>NH. However, of all the posts I have read I think this one pleases me
>most! :)
>
Hehe...I'm sure that :-) will be a :-( in 7 seven days time. ;-)
--
Nos
One good reason is the pre-release demo, that can really squelch the "try
before you buy" Warez guys. Releasing a demo 3 months after release makes no
sense, so once again good call on Hasbro's part on releasing the demo before
it hit the shelves.
etcher <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:Itlm5.93$[email hidden]...
>
> Vintook <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]...
> > Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about warezthat
> > you normally see about that time? Just wondering
> >
> >
>
>
> Being on the development team I have really enjoyed all the discussionabout
> NH. However, of all the posts I have read I think this one pleases me
> most! :)
>
>
In article <j6om5.250240$[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...
> One good reason is the pre-release demo, that can really squelch the "try
> before you buy" Warez guys.
Ah, but it's only being released in the US. Squelch one reason and you've
still got another. ;)
Cheers,
Rod.
Being on the development team, why didn't you push for a more complete set
of FF adjustments, ala NFS:PU? After pushing the limits in the options.cfg
file, I noticed that all the forces are there, including some cracks in the
road and the chassis dragging. But you can't feel them with the normal setup
options.
--
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www.slottweak.com
Tweaks & Reviews
"etcher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:Itlm5.93$[email hidden]...
>
> Vintook <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]...
> > Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about warez
that
> > you normally see about that time? Just wondering
> >
> >
>
>
> Being on the development team I have really enjoyed all the discussion
about
> NH. However, of all the posts I have read I think this one pleases me
> most! :)
>
>
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 01:30:41 GMT, "Marc Collins"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>When there is a decent demo and the developers are here helping us and
>answering our questions honestly, there is no need for the warez version. I
>sincerely hope there is not a word of it here if and when one comes out.
Fully agree. This is the perfect way to do it. Honest info straight
from the developers, and a demo before the game itself is released,
without the 'we know the physics suck but it will be much better in
the final release' excuses.
Andre
Quoted text (11 lines)
> >Marc. > >"Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]... >> Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about warez that >> you normally see about that time? Just wondering >> >> > >
"Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:59mm5.158109$[email hidden]...
> When there is a decent demo and the developers are here helping us and
> answering our questions honestly, there is no need for the warez version.I
> sincerely hope there is not a word of it here if and when one comes out.
>
> Marc.
Unfortunately there's a different twist in this case - namely the
U.S.A.-only release.
(Isn't this legally grounds to break copyright in some countries? I'm sure
I've heard this rumour somewhere)
Ryan
Your FF settings for NH brought it to life for me Slot. Have you been tweaking
those settings even more?
--David Cook
In article <JTqm5.3102$[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
wrote...
> Being on the development team, why didn't you push for a more complete set
> of FF adjustments, ala NFS:PU? After pushing the limits in the options.cfg
> file, I noticed that all the forces are there, including some cracks in the
> road and the chassis dragging. But you can't feel them with the normal setup
> options.
I know if I lived outside the U. S. I would get the warez version when it's
out. Because I don't, I will buy it because MGI deserves the $ for this nice
game. But if it came down to being able to play it or not be able to play
it, I would warez it. My, I'm a scoundrel!!
--
Todd S
"Ryan Mitchley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:8ndmna$k8c$[email hidden]...
>
> "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:59mm5.158109$[email hidden]...
> > When there is a decent demo and the developers are here helping us and
> > answering our questions honestly, there is no need for the warez
version.
> I
> > sincerely hope there is not a word of it here if and when one comes out.
> >
> > Marc.
>
> Unfortunately there's a different twist in this case - namely the
> U.S.A.-only release.
>
> (Isn't this legally grounds to break copyright in some countries? I'm sure
> I've heard this rumour somewhere)
>
> Ryan
>
>
>
Slot or anyone for that matter,
I am looking for FF nirvana in Nascar Heat using a LWFF. Could you post any
tweaks or adjustments you made to get the FF experience a little better in
NH?
Wayne Bradley
"GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:JTqm5.3102$[email hidden]...
> Being on the development team, why didn't you push for a more complete set
> of FF adjustments, ala NFS:PU? After pushing the limits in theoptions.cfg
> file, I noticed that all the forces are there, including some cracks inthe
> road and the chassis dragging. But you can't feel them with the normalsetup
Quoted text (31 lines)
> options. > > > -- > Slot > > www.slottweak.com > Tweaks & Reviews > > > > "etcher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Itlm5.93$[email hidden]... > > > > Vintook <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]... > > > Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about warez > that > > > you normally see about that time? Just wondering > > > > > > > > > > > > Being on the development team I have really enjoyed all the discussion > about > > NH. However, of all the posts I have read I think this one pleases me > > most! :) > > > > > >It's great to see posts like this from the community. Thanks, Vintook - you
really make this newsgroup a wonderful place to hang out & support.
"Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]...
> Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about warez that
> you normally see about that time? Just wondering
>
>
Hey Ed, I'll try to make up for Vintook. I'm buying two copies - one for me and
another for a friend in Finland! Cmon' all you US Nascar fans - do your duty and
export NH to your racing friends overseas!!!
--David Cook
In article <2tym5.414$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] wrote...
Quoted text (8 lines)
> It's great to see posts like this from the community. Thanks, Vintook - you > really make this newsgroup a wonderful place to hang out & support. > > > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]... > > Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about warez that > > you normally see about that time? Just wondering Ed, Vintook appears to be a real winner!
Pete
"Ed Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:2tym5.414$[email hidden]...
> It's great to see posts like this from the community. Thanks, Vintook -you
> really make this newsgroup a wonderful place to hang out & support.
>
>
At www.slottweak.com.
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Tweaks & Reviews
www.slottweak.com
"Wayne Bradley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:8ne3ea$db6$[email hidden]...
> Slot or anyone for that matter,
> I am looking for FF nirvana in Nascar Heat using a LWFF. Could you post
any
> tweaks or adjustments you made to get the FF experience a little better in
> NH?
>
> Wayne Bradley
>
>
>
> "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:JTqm5.3102$[email hidden]...
> > Being on the development team, why didn't you push for a more complete
set
> > of FF adjustments, ala NFS:PU? After pushing the limits in the
> options.cfg
> > file, I noticed that all the forces are there, including some cracks in
> the
> > road and the chassis dragging. But you can't feel them with the normal
> setup
> > options.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Slot
> >
> > www.slottweak.com
> > Tweaks & Reviews
> >
> >
> >
> > "etcher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > news:Itlm5.93$[email hidden]...
> > >
> > > Vintook <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > > news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]...
> > > > Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about warez
> > that
> > > > you normally see about that time? Just wondering
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Being on the development team I have really enjoyed all the discussion
> > about
> > > NH. However, of all the posts I have read I think this one pleases
me
> > > most! :)
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Or you could do the right thing & order it online. Just because we don't
distribute it in your country does not make it right or legal to steal it.
"Alan Coates" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:%nzm5.12696$[email hidden]...
> As my enquiries lead me to believe that NH is not going to be released inUK
Quoted text (17 lines)
> then all I can say is HURRY UP WAREZ! > > Probably make a few copies and hand the around. > > Alan > > > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]... > > > Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about warez > that > > > you normally see about that time? Just wondering > > > > > > > > > > > >As my enquiries lead me to believe that NH is not going to be released in UK
then all I can say is HURRY UP WAREZ!
Probably make a few copies and hand the around.
Alan
> "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]...
> > Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about warezthat
> > you normally see about that time? Just wondering
> >
> >
>
>
Correct. You people from UK don't understand what us Americans have been
doing importing games. So far I've bought GP3, Rally Masters, RC2K, and
Colin McCrae Rally imports. It's not much, here we have Interact CD in CA,
so it was relitivly cheap :) But I know ordering from the US isn't much at
all, just like $10 extra. It's not like games are that expensive, I'm 13 and
have a paper route and can afford buying 3 games a month.
Bunch of cheap basterds ;)
For the 2nd best sim so far, I think they deserve every penny.
Thanks,
Alex
Ed Martin <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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in
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> Or you could do the right thing & order it online. Just because we don't > distribute it in your country does not make it right or legal to steal it. > > > "Alan Coates" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:%nzm5.12696$[email hidden]... > > As my enquiries lead me to believe that NH is not going to be releasedQuoted text (20 lines)
> UK > > then all I can say is HURRY UP WAREZ! > > > > Probably make a few copies and hand the around. > > > > Alan > > > > > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]... > > > > Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about warez > > that > > > > you normally see about that time? Just wondering > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Way to go Slot, I saw those settings in the options and thought I would fool
around with them, now I don't have to.
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> At www.slottweak.com. > > -- > Slot > > Tweaks & Reviews > www.slottweak.com > > > "Wayne Bradley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8ne3ea$db6$[email hidden]... > > Slot or anyone for that matter, > > I am looking for FF nirvana in Nascar Heat using a LWFF. Could you post > any > > tweaks or adjustments you made to get the FF experience a little betterQuoted text (13 lines)
> > NH? > > > > Wayne Bradley > > > > > > > > "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:JTqm5.3102$[email hidden]... > > > Being on the development team, why didn't you push for a more complete > set > > > of FF adjustments, ala NFS:PU? After pushing the limits in the > > options.cfg > > > file, I noticed that all the forces are there, including some cracksQuoted text (20 lines)
> > the > > > road and the chassis dragging. But you can't feel them with the normal > > setup > > > options. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Slot > > > > > > www.slottweak.com > > > Tweaks & Reviews > > > > > > > > > > > > "etcher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:Itlm5.93$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > Vintook <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]... > > > > > Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts aboutQuoted text (7 lines)
> > > that > > > > > you normally see about that time? Just wondering > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Being on the development team I have really enjoyed all theQuoted text (12 lines)
> > > about > > > > NH. However, of all the posts I have read I think this one pleases > me > > > > most! :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:25:29 -0400, David L. Cook
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>Hey Ed, I'll try to make up for Vintook. I'm buying two copies - one for me and
>another for a friend in Finland! Cmon' all you US Nascar fans - do your duty and
>export NH to your racing friends overseas!!!
Sorry, but Vintook didn't say anything wrong. He's just wondering why
there are no warez posts about NH.
I'm quite sure that this is because of the released demo. No need to
download a warez version to test it, as it was the case with GP3.
(I bought GP3 after I tried the warez version, even with all it's
flaws. If I would have judged only by the reviews here on RAS, no way
I would have bought it!)
Andre
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> >--David Cook > >In article <2tym5.414$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] wrote... >> It's great to see posts like this from the community. Thanks, Vintook - you >> really make this newsgroup a wonderful place to hang out & support. >> >> >> "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]... >> > Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about warez that >> > you normally see about that time? Just wonderingActually, I hope they do post the warez links here. It makes it a lot
easier for our lawyers to go after them.
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> Exactly Ed, I said this when they did it about GP3, if they want to do it, > fine, but they should keep it out of this newsgroup, and they should keep > warez links (url's) WAY out of this newsgroup. > > I apologise on his behalf. > > -- > Tim, > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for yourQuoted text (18 lines)
> Ed Martin <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:2tym5.414$[email hidden]... > > It's great to see posts like this from the community. Thanks, Vintook - > you > > really make this newsgroup a wonderful place to hang out & support. > > > > > > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]... > > > Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about warez > that > > > you normally see about that time? Just wondering > > > > > > > > > > > >You could do the right thing and distribute it in other countries, not that
I really care being that I'm a stinking American pig!
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> Or you could do the right thing & order it online. Just because we don't > distribute it in your country does not make it right or legal to steal it. > > > "Alan Coates" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:%nzm5.12696$[email hidden]... > > As my enquiries lead me to believe that NH is not going to be releasedQuoted text (20 lines)
> UK > > then all I can say is HURRY UP WAREZ! > > > > Probably make a few copies and hand the around. > > > > Alan > > > > > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]... > > > > Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about warez > > that > > > > you normally see about that time? Just wondering > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >LOL, I know, look at the thread I started, heheheh. Anyway I don't support
warez and will be the first in line at the store to purchase NH. I just
wanted inquire why nobody had posted a message about warez yet. When GP3(2.5
really) went gold the warez was out that afternoon and from what I read it
was the actual gold copy. Why was that? Europeans not very copyright
friendly? Beta team not copyright friendly? Crammond himself put it out to
act as a kind of demo?
Now you have NH gone gold and nothing. Strange huh, at least I thought so. I
think it just shows that the beta team was good, it is released in the US
and releasing a demo negates the need for warez. When GPL went gold was
there warez copies? I don't remember any, same story. I say good job MGI!
Vintook
"Ed Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> It's great to see posts like this from the community. Thanks, Vintook -you
> really make this newsgroup a wonderful place to hang out & support.
>
>
> "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]...
> > Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about warezthat
> > you normally see about that time? Just wondering
> >
> >
>
>
Yeah, but that said we *really* don't want "Rednex Bunny Huntin' 4" and it's
like over here do we ;)
BTW. Bit stuffed ordering online when you don't have, or intend to own, a credit
card. oh, and I'm not gonna go asking to borrow one either.
Alan.
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> "You people from the UK"? Get real. > > I've already ordered NH, and check out some stats before you start spouting > that stuff, there are lots more software titles marked as Americas only. > > -- > Tim, > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your league... > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on gpl... > Alex Kihurani <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:UoAm5.1696$[email hidden]... > > Correct. You people from UK don't understand what us Americans have been > > doing importing games. So far I've bought GP3, Rally Masters, RC2K, and > > Colin McCrae Rally imports. It's not much, here we have Interact CD in CA, > > so it was relitivly cheap :) But I know ordering from the US isn't much at > > all, just like $10 extra. It's not like games are that expensive, I'm 13 > and > > have a paper route and can afford buying 3 games a month. > > > > Bunch of cheap basterds ;) > > > > For the 2nd best sim so far, I think they deserve every penny. > > > > Thanks, > > Alex > > Ed Martin <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:JHzm5.423$[email hidden]... > > > Or you could do the right thing & order it online. Just because we > don't > > > distribute it in your country does not make it right or legal to steal > it. > > > > > > > > > "Alan Coates" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:%nzm5.12696$[email hidden]... > > > > As my enquiries lead me to believe that NH is not going to be released > > in > > > UK > > > > then all I can say is HURRY UP WAREZ! > > > > > > > > Probably make a few copies and hand the around. > > > > > > > > Alan > > > > > > > > > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]... > > > > > > Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about > warez > > > > that > > > > > > you normally see about that time? Just wondering > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Thank you, I post a response that says just that!
Vintook
"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:25:29 -0400, David L. Cook
> <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> >Hey Ed, I'll try to make up for Vintook. I'm buying two copies - one forme and
> >another for a friend in Finland! Cmon' all you US Nascar fans - do yourduty and
wrote...
> >> It's great to see posts like this from the community. Thanks,Vintook - you
> >> really make this newsgroup a wonderful place to hang out & support.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> >> news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]...
> >> > Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about warezthat
> >> > you normally see about that time? Just wondering
>
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> >export NH to your racing friends overseas!!! > > Sorry, but Vintook didn't say anything wrong. He's just wondering why > there are no warez posts about NH. > I'm quite sure that this is because of the released demo. No need to > download a warez version to test it, as it was the case with GP3. > (I bought GP3 after I tried the warez version, even with all it's > flaws. If I would have judged only by the reviews here on RAS, no way > I would have bought it!) > > Andre > > > > >--David Cook > > > >In article <2tym5.414$[email hidden]>, [email hidden]Make an observation and everyone thinks you're an asshole, nice to know you
prejudge people by their observations. I posted a reply, read it and then
eat your post.
Vintook
"Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Ed, Vintook appears to be a real winner! > > Pete > > "Ed Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:2tym5.414$[email hidden]... > > It's great to see posts like this from the community. Thanks, Vintook - > you > > really make this newsgroup a wonderful place to hang out & support. > > > > > > > Nah, already had my dinner Nanook!
"Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Make an observation and everyone thinks you're an asshole, nice to knowyou
> prejudge people by their observations. I posted a reply, read it and then
> eat your post.
>
> Vintook
>
get a debit card then.
Alan <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Yeah, but that said we *really* don't want "Rednex Bunny Huntin' 4" andit's
> like over here do we ;)
>
> BTW. Bit stuffed ordering online when you don't have, or intend to own, acredit
spouting
> > that stuff, there are lots more software titles marked as Americas only.
> >
> > --
> > Tim,
> > [email hidden]|[email hidden]
> > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for yourleague...
> > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based ongpl...
> > Alex Kihurani <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > news:UoAm5.1696$[email hidden]...
> > > Correct. You people from UK don't understand what us Americans havebeen
> > > doing importing games. So far I've bought GP3, Rally Masters, RC2K,and
> > > Colin McCrae Rally imports. It's not much, here we have Interact CD inCA,
> > > so it was relitivly cheap :) But I know ordering from the US isn'tmuch at
> > > all, just like $10 extra. It's not like games are that expensive, I'm13
steal
> > it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Alan Coates" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > > > news:%nzm5.12696$[email hidden]...
> > > > > As my enquiries lead me to believe that NH is not going to bereleased
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> card. oh, and I'm not gonna go asking to borrow one either. > > Alan. > > Tim Wheatley wrote: > > > "You people from the UK"? Get real. > > > > I've already ordered NH, and check out some stats before you startQuoted text (14 lines)
> > and > > > have a paper route and can afford buying 3 games a month. > > > > > > Bunch of cheap basterds ;) > > > > > > For the 2nd best sim so far, I think they deserve every penny. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Alex > > > Ed Martin <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:JHzm5.423$[email hidden]... > > > > Or you could do the right thing & order it online. Just because we > > don't > > > > distribute it in your country does not make it right or legal toQuoted text (24 lines)
> > > in > > > > UK > > > > > then all I can say is HURRY UP WAREZ! > > > > > > > > > > Probably make a few copies and hand the around. > > > > > > > > > > Alan > > > > > > > > > > > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about > > warez > > > > > that > > > > > > > you normally see about that time? Just wondering > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >No, Rather not old chap, but thank-you kindly for your concern.
Alan.
Kai Fuller wrote:
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> get a debit card then. > Alan <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Yeah, but that said we *really* don't want "Rednex Bunny Huntin' 4" and > it's > > like over here do we ;) > > > > BTW. Bit stuffed ordering online when you don't have, or intend to own, a > credit > > card. oh, and I'm not gonna go asking to borrow one either. > > > > Alan.
Ed Martin <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Actually, I hope they do post the warez links here. It makes it a lot
> easier for our lawyers to go after them.
Actually it'd be cheaper to market your games worldwide than pay shit
lawyers!
When will Americans become less provincial and start having global vision!
Alan
I'm spoiled over here in Switzerland. They will send you big ticket items
like televisions and stereos to your door without any pre-payment, and just
your name and address. A little paper form comes in the mail with the
amount owing, and you are politely asked to pay at your convenience. If a
company offered that in Canada then (1) you could knock me over with a
feather and (2) they would not last long.
Stephen
Tim Wheatley <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> First game I bought online I didn't pay by credit card, I phoned them upand
league...
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a
only.
in
> CA,
> > > > so it was relitivly cheap :) But I know ordering from the US isn't
> much at
> > > > all, just like $10 extra. It's not like games are that expensive,I'm
we
about
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> within 5 mins I had arranged cheque payment, ask you bank for exchange > details. > > -- > Tim, > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for yourQuoted text (7 lines)
> Alan <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Yeah, but that said we *really* don't want "Rednex Bunny Huntin' 4" and > it's > > like over here do we ;) > > > > BTW. Bit stuffed ordering online when you don't have, or intend to own,Quoted text (12 lines)
> credit > > card. oh, and I'm not gonna go asking to borrow one either. > > > > Alan. > > > > Tim Wheatley wrote: > > > > > "You people from the UK"? Get real. > > > > > > I've already ordered NH, and check out some stats before you start > spouting > > > that stuff, there are lots more software titles marked as AmericasQuoted text (15 lines)
> > > > > > -- > > > Tim, > > > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > > > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your > league... > > > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on > gpl... > > > Alex Kihurani <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:UoAm5.1696$[email hidden]... > > > > Correct. You people from UK don't understand what us Americans have > been > > > > doing importing games. So far I've bought GP3, Rally Masters, RC2K, > and > > > > Colin McCrae Rally imports. It's not much, here we have Interact CDQuoted text (13 lines)
> 13 > > > and > > > > have a paper route and can afford buying 3 games a month. > > > > > > > > Bunch of cheap basterds ;) > > > > > > > > For the 2nd best sim so far, I think they deserve every penny. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Alex > > > > Ed Martin <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:JHzm5.423$[email hidden]... > > > > > Or you could do the right thing & order it online. Just becauseQuoted text (21 lines)
> > > don't > > > > > distribute it in your country does not make it right or legal to > steal > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Alan Coates" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:%nzm5.12696$[email hidden]... > > > > > > As my enquiries lead me to believe that NH is not going to be > released > > > > in > > > > > UK > > > > > > then all I can say is HURRY UP WAREZ! > > > > > > > > > > > > Probably make a few copies and hand the around. > > > > > > > > > > > > Alan > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the postsQuoted text (15 lines)
> > > warez > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > you normally see about that time? Just wondering > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >In article <qgCm5.429$[email hidden]>, "Ed Martin"
<[email hidden]> writes:
BWAHAHAHA! I *love* that... Go get 'em!
Oh, sorry for my outburst, Ed... :) Keep up the good work!
Eldred
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>Actually, I hope they do post the warez links here. It makes it a lot >easier for our lawyers to go after them. > >"Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:8neo1s$1vt$[email hidden]... >> Exactly Ed, I said this when they did it about GP3, if they want to do it, >> fine, but they should keep it out of this newsgroup, and they should keep >> warez links (url's) WAY out of this newsgroup. >> >> I apologise on his behalf.In article <[email hidden]>, David L. Cook
<[email hidden]> writes:
If one had sent me a copy of GP3, I might have... :)
Eldred
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>Hey Ed, I'll try to make up for Vintook. I'm buying two copies - one for me >and >another for a friend in Finland! Cmon' all you US Nascar fans - do your duty >and >export NH to your racing friends overseas!!! > >--David CookHi Ed,
Just wondering if the decision not to release nh in Europe had to do with
Nascar licensing, or was it purely from marketing? I think most of the gents
on this ng realize that we are not a good sampling of the general gaming
market. Even if 100 guys on here from the UK want the game, that doesn't
really mean it would do well in Europe overall. Nascar isn't that big
outside of North America, but the guys on here are sim racers, mostly, and
would race pop-up toasters or horses if they handled like the real thing.
(hmm....how would you model the physics on horse racing ;)
Licensing, or marketing?
--
Slot
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"Ed Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Or you could do the right thing & order it online. Just because we don't
> distribute it in your country does not make it right or legal to steal it.
>
>
> "Alan Coates" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:%nzm5.12696$[email hidden]...
> > As my enquiries lead me to believe that NH is not going to be released
in
> UK
> > then all I can say is HURRY UP WAREZ!
> >
> > Probably make a few copies and hand the around.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > > news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]...
> > > > Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about warez
> > that
> > > > you normally see about that time? Just wondering
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Gawd, I despise crooks.
I'll tell you something gang, I have been very impressed as I'm sure a lot
of you have been with the participation of Hasbro and MGI on the newsgroups
. And now they have even released a demo prior to their shelf date.
If similar things happen here that I have seen with the releases of GP3 and
F12K, don't cry about not having their support when they leave.
<< soapbox off >>
--
Don Burnette
Dburn in N3 and Legends
ICQ# 74084566
"Ed Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> It's great to see posts like this from the community. Thanks, Vintook -
you
> really make this newsgroup a wonderful place to hang out & support.
>
>
> "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]...
> > Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about warez
that
> > you normally see about that time? Just wondering
> >
> >
>
>
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 23:51:44 +0100, "Tim Wheatley"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
<snip>
>If you feel need to inquire, I'm testing right now for Microprose on a
>flight sim,
How does the B52 handle? Did they tone it down to a more arcade niveau
as they did with Gunship?
>I'm testing soon for Blue Byte for a strategy game,
Not the Settlers I hope? Hated that game, became boring very soon due
to the limited options... Long live AOE II :)
Andre
On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 00:45:07 GMT, "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
Well, there never was much prior support for GP3 and certainly no demo
before the game's release. GP3 is a good game, but I was disappointed
in Hasbro's handling of Internet play. Well, I shouldn't even say
handling, as there is no net play at all in this game. It really
suprised me that GP3 would have no Internet play. Is there a racing
simulation released these days that does not include Internet play?
And anyhow, I don't recall anyone from Hasbro coming here to comment
upon GP3 as they have done with Heat. I think they realized that GP3
was not going to go over well, so they kind of stayed away. Also,
seeing that GP3 was not initially released in the US-- that could have
something to do with no GP3 support in this newsgroup and other
places.
Alanb
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>Gawd, I despise crooks. >I'll tell you something gang, I have been very impressed as I'm sure a lot >of you have been with the participation of Hasbro and MGI on the newsgroups >. And now they have even released a demo prior to their shelf date. >If similar things happen here that I have seen with the releases of GP3 and >F12K, don't cry about not having their support when they leave. > << soapbox off >>Quoted text (15 lines)
> >Actually it'd be cheaper to market your games worldwide than pay shit >lawyers! > >When will Americans become less provincial and start having global vision! > >Alan > > > > > > > >OK Ed but why the US only release??.. I probably will order it online but
know I will end up paying around double what I should have to as a result
:O(
PH
"Ed Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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in
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> Or you could do the right thing & order it online. Just because we don't > distribute it in your country does not make it right or legal to steal it. > > > "Alan Coates" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:%nzm5.12696$[email hidden]... > > As my enquiries lead me to believe that NH is not going to be releasedQuoted text (20 lines)
> UK > > then all I can say is HURRY UP WAREZ! > > > > Probably make a few copies and hand the around. > > > > Alan > > > > > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]... > > > > Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about warez > > that > > > > you normally see about that time? Just wondering > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >You've gotta be kidding.. $10 extra.. make that about �20-�30. If it was
only $10 it wouldn't be a problem...
PH
"Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Correct. You people from UK don't understand what us Americans have been
> doing importing games. So far I've bought GP3, Rally Masters, RC2K, and
> Colin McCrae Rally imports. It's not much, here we have Interact CD in CA,
> so it was relitivly cheap :) But I know ordering from the US isn't much at
> all, just like $10 extra. It's not like games are that expensive, I'm 13and
don't
> > distribute it in your country does not make it right or legal to stealit.
warez
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> have a paper route and can afford buying 3 games a month. > > Bunch of cheap basterds ;) > > For the 2nd best sim so far, I think they deserve every penny. > > Thanks, > Alex > Ed Martin <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:JHzm5.423$[email hidden]... > > Or you could do the right thing & order it online. Just because weQuoted text (16 lines)
> > > > > > "Alan Coates" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:%nzm5.12696$[email hidden]... > > > As my enquiries lead me to believe that NH is not going to be released > in > > UK > > > then all I can say is HURRY UP WAREZ! > > > > > > Probably make a few copies and hand the around. > > > > > > Alan > > > > > > > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]... > > > > > Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts aboutQuoted text (11 lines)
> > > that > > > > > you normally see about that time? Just wondering > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
"Ed Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Or you could do the right thing & order it online. Just because we don't
> distribute it in your country does not make it right or legal to steal it.
I may be wrong, but I think that in some countries the fact that a product
isn't distributed locally makes legal grounds to break copyright.
Any comments from those with more information?
Ryan
Ed Martin wrote:
>
> Or you could do the right thing & order it online. Just because we don't
> distribute it in your country does not make it right or legal to steal it.
Resistance is futile Ed, for some reason, some people can think up the
silliest excuses for using Warez, like the fact that it's not released
in one particular country, which is funny when you consider that we're
part of an "on line" community and plenty of "on line" stores will ship
world wide.....
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I think that has been tried, at least in the US, with sites having links
to illegally distributed software, and it didn't work if memory serves
me right, probably more to the story than that, but it shows how
difficult it is...
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> > >Actually, I hope they do post the warez links here. It makes it a lot > >easier for our lawyers to go after them. > > Have you ever condidered going after the person who posted the link, or people > who are on here openly claiming to have the warez version? > > I'm just curious, but I'd like to see it happen.What NASCAR track is in Australia? What year was it used?
Marc.
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> I live in Australia and, as one of few countries in the world to actuallyhave a
> NASCAR track, I am puzzled by the decision not to distribute this gamehere.
> It's as stupid as the decision made by whoever the genius was to notdistribute
> Dirt Track Racing down here....and it's created by Ratbag, who areAustralian!
>
> Weird marketing decisions in both cases.
>
> Todd Sorensen wrote:
>
> > You could do the right thing and distribute it in other countries, notthat
> > I really care being that I'm a stinking American pig!
>
I agree, but it is still a stupid policy. I have purchased many UK imports
here in Canada and then a few weeks later they show up at "regular" price
because someone decided to include us in their marketing campaign. It is
very annoying.
Marc.
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> >
> >Actually it'd be cheaper to market your games worldwide than pay shit
> >lawyers!
> >
> >When will Americans become less provincial and start having globalvision!
also
> released Grand Prix World in the UK, but not in the US. I wanted thisgame,
> and guess what I did??? I ordered it online from the UK, and for onlyabout 10
> dollars more. If you want the game bad enough, you can get...Legally
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> > > >Alan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good God....Do you want some cheese with your whine?? Microprose/HasbroIt has nothing to do with Hasbro. Ed works for the developers, MGI, who
decided it would be a good idea to be here (accolades to them, too).
Crammond et al did not. This is not a US newsgroup. People from all over
the world post here regularly. There is a huge European contingent here.
Marc (Canada)
"Alan Bernardo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 00:45:07 GMT, "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]>
> wrote:
>
> >Gawd, I despise crooks.
> >I'll tell you something gang, I have been very impressed as I'm sure alot
> >of you have been with the participation of Hasbro and MGI on thenewsgroups
> >. And now they have even released a demo prior to their shelf date.
> >If similar things happen here that I have seen with the releases of GP3and
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> >F12K, don't cry about not having their support when they leave. > > << soapbox off >> > > Well, there never was much prior support for GP3 and certainly no demo > before the game's release. GP3 is a good game, but I was disappointed > in Hasbro's handling of Internet play. Well, I shouldn't even say > handling, as there is no net play at all in this game. It really > suprised me that GP3 would have no Internet play. Is there a racing > simulation released these days that does not include Internet play? > > And anyhow, I don't recall anyone from Hasbro coming here to comment > upon GP3 as they have done with Heat. I think they realized that GP3 > was not going to go over well, so they kind of stayed away. Also, > seeing that GP3 was not initially released in the US-- that could have > something to do with no GP3 support in this newsgroup and other > places. > > AlanbHow many times have you been asked why the game isn't being released
outside the US, Ed? Have you bothered to reply to the question yet?
Yet you feel the need to make a lot of veiled threats regarding the
poss Warez release. Well if thats your attitude SCREW YOU! I hopr the
Warez version goes to the top of the Warez charts (or whatever those
Warez types have)
Why you are picking on Ed after all the great support he's given us by
answering many questions regarding Heat and it's demo? Hasbro obviously
doesn't see a booming Nascar market outside the US. Big deal... order it
online or ask a US bud to buy it and ship it to you. Do you really think
Hasbro and Ed have it out for people outside the US?
While you're waiting for a phantom warez of Heat to hit the top of the warez
charts <and, um... trying to screw Ed>, I'll be playing Heat with a big freakin
grin on my face! :-P
Dave Ericson
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JDB Racing
Marc Davey wrote:
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> > How many times have you been asked why the game isn't being released > outside the US, Ed? Have you bothered to reply to the question yet? > Yet you feel the need to make a lot of veiled threats regarding the > poss Warez release. Well if thats your attitude SCREW YOU! I hopr the > Warez version goes to the top of the Warez charts (or whatever those > Warez types have)This was billed as "the first NASCAR race outside the US". It was
held Feb 28, 1988 at the then brand new $20 million Melbourne
Thunderdome, a 1.25 mile quad oval with 24 degree banking.
This was similar to the Japan races we see nowdays, in that it was a
non-pts event. Neil Bonnett sat on the pole with Bobby Allison
alongside. Other drivers in the event were Dave Marcis, Kyle Petty,
Ron Esau (Winston West), Hershal McGriff, Bill Venturini, and M.
Waltrip.
It was actually a pretty entertaining race. There were many Aussie
drivers in the field. But you have to remember....this was the first
superspeedway ever built in Australia, and a very new creature for the
Aussie drivers.
The Aussie favorite was Alan Grice, who qualified 3rd for the race.
He passed Allison on the first lap to take 2nd. But 3 laps later,
Allison pulled under Grice, put a fender to him in the 4th turn, and
sent him spinning through the grass. I think if not for the fence,
the Aussie crowd may have sent the Miller Buick home in a box that
day. <g>
On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 15:38:52 GMT, "Marc Collins"
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>What NASCAR track is in Australia? What year was it used? > >Marc. > >"Leaky_Valve" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> I live in Australia and, as one of few countries in the world to actually >have a >> NASCAR track, I am puzzled by the decision not to distribute this game >here. >> It's as stupid as the decision made by whoever the genius was to not >distribute >> Dirt Track Racing down here....and it's created by Ratbag, who are >Australian! >> >> Weird marketing decisions in both cases. >> >> Todd Sorensen wrote: >> >> > You could do the right thing and distribute it in other countries, not >that >> > I really care being that I'm a stinking American pig! >> > >This moron is proof that there is an IDIOT in every village.
ok just a suggestion I think there might be some one out there that does
checking accounts if you look around.
Alan <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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and
> > it's
> > > like over here do we ;)
> > >
> > > BTW. Bit stuffed ordering online when you don't have, or intend toown, a
> > credit
> > > card. oh, and I'm not gonna go asking to borrow one either.
> > >
> > > Alan.
>
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> No, Rather not old chap, but thank-you kindly for your concern. > > Alan. > > Kai Fuller wrote: > > > get a debit card then. > > > Alan <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Yeah, but that said we *really* don't want "Rednex Bunny Huntin' 4"that's funny, I thought Americans were about the only ones WITH global
vision.
Alan Coates <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > Ed Martin <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:qgCm5.429$[email hidden]... > > Actually, I hope they do post the warez links here. It makes it a lot > > easier for our lawyers to go after them. > > Actually it'd be cheaper to market your games worldwide than pay shit > lawyers! > > When will Americans become less provincial and start having global vision! > > Alan > >you know I've been in beta groups were they marked your version with a code,
so that any warez that showed up could be tracked back to you.
That's a great policy if you ask me.
Tim Wheatley <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I'm not holding your post against you Vintook ;-) It makes no differenceto
> me anymore...
>
> Anyways, It seems the NH beta test team is a very good one, the GP3 final
> was probably leaked by a beta tester in my opinion, as every piece of
> software I've tested I've had the pre-release/final before officialrelease.
you,
> but you should not provide links in a public manner to 'shove' it into
> people's faces, for example, the moderators on my forums are told toremove
league...
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> Vintook <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:YgDm5.44276$[email hidden]...
> > LOL, I know, look at the thread I started, heheheh. Anyway I don'tsupport
> > warez and will be the first in line at the store to purchase NH. I just
> > wanted inquire why nobody had posted a message about warez yet. When
> GP3(2.5
> > really) went gold the warez was out that afternoon and from what I readit
> > was the actual gold copy. Why was that? Europeans not very copyright
> > friendly? Beta team not copyright friendly? Crammond himself put it outto
> > act as a kind of demo?
> > Now you have NH gone gold and nothing. Strange huh, at least I thoughtso.
> I
> > think it just shows that the beta team was good, it is released in theUS
> > and releasing a demo negates the need for warez. When GPL went gold was
> > there warez copies? I don't remember any, same story. I say good jobMGI!
> >
> > Vintook
> >
> > "Ed Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > news:2tym5.414$[email hidden]...
> > > It's great to see posts like this from the community. Thanks,Vintook -
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> > If you feel need to inquire, I'm testing right now for Microprose on a > flight sim, I'm testing soon for Blue Byte for a strategy game, and I've > tested in the past for various... > > Anyways, don't worry about it, I know lots of people (including me) preach > about not doing stuff, but you're free to not reply to those posts, and > you're free to totally ignore them, it's up to you, bear in mind it is > illegal, and it does hurt people like Ed to find that people from the USA > with access to it would actually download it. I'm from the UK and had my > order in quite some time ago from Chips n bits which was linked on > www.nascar-racing-sims.com . > > My personal opinion of warez is that, if you do it, fine, that's up toQuoted text (9 lines)
> links from any posts linking to warez, the posts may remain but url is > edited out. > > Anyways, don't worry 'bout it. > > -- > Tim, > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for yourQuoted text (17 lines)
> > you > > > really make this newsgroup a wonderful place to hang out & support. > > > > > > > > > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:Mnlm5.41423$[email hidden]... > > > > Hasn't NH gone gold already? If so where's all the posts about warez > > that > > > > you normally see about that time? Just wondering > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Rod Prince wrote:
Yepp, and one thing I wanted to add regarding the guessed reason of
expensive
shelf space and limited audience in Europe. How freaking hard can it be
for a
INTERNATIONAL company to send a few hundred copies of a game to their
European
headquarters and to sell them online?
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> > In article <j6om5.250240$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > says... > > One good reason is the pre-release demo, that can really squelch the "try > > before you buy" Warez guys. > > Ah, but it's only being released in the US. Squelch one reason and you've > still got another. ;)Andre Warringa wrote:
> snip
Well, you listen to the wrong people. Some of them didn't even play the
game before shouting "Don't buy that game!"
BTW, it's simple: there is NO excuse to downlad a warez version, at all.
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> > Sorry, but Vintook didn't say anything wrong. He's just wondering why > there are no warez posts about NH. > I'm quite sure that this is because of the released demo. No need to > download a warez version to test it, as it was the case with GP3. > (I bought GP3 after I tried the warez version, even with all it's > flaws. If I would have judged only by the reviews here on RAS, no way > I would have bought it!)On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:34:22 -0700, "Kai Fuller" <[email hidden]>
thus spoke:
>> If you feel need to inquire, I'm testing right now for Microprose on a
>> flight sim,
What flight-sim would that be?
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=---
BillyBob wrote...
> This moron is proof that there is an IDIOT in every village.
>
LOL as usual you half wit plonkers have replied without actually
reading what was actually said. Read it again and then re read it (or
how ever many times it takes to actually sink in)
On Fri, 18 Aug 2000 02:34:54 +0200, "Jan Verschueren"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
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>Shoot... there's dozen's of 'm. ;-) > >Jan. >=--- >BillyBob wrote... >> This moron is proof that there is an IDIOT in every village. >> > >On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 20:17:39 -0500, rrevved
<[email hidden]> thus spoke:
>Sounds like B-17
>
Yea, it came to me after I made that post. Doh!
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Depends on the copyright.....world-wide is de rigour these days...and strong
agreements exist between western nations when it comes to policing breaches of
copyright, including piracy.
Ryan Mitchley wrote:
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> "Ed Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:JHzm5.423$[email hidden]... > > Or you could do the right thing & order it online. Just because we don't > > distribute it in your country does not make it right or legal to steal it. > > I may be wrong, but I think that in some countries the fact that a product > isn't distributed locally makes legal grounds to break copyright. > > Any comments from those with more information? > > RyanI live in Australia and, as one of few countries in the world to actually have a
NASCAR track, I am puzzled by the decision not to distribute this game here.
It's as stupid as the decision made by whoever the genius was to not distribute
Dirt Track Racing down here....and it's created by Ratbag, who are Australian!
Weird marketing decisions in both cases.
Todd Sorensen wrote:
> You could do the right thing and distribute it in other countries, not that
> I really care being that I'm a stinking American pig!
Oaf.
If Hasbro were employing "shit lawyers" then they would hardly be paying them
by the barrow-load, now would they? Don't you know the saying "pay peanuts and
get monkeys"? No? Well here.....have a peanut.
Alan Coates wrote:
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> Ed Martin <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:qgCm5.429$[email hidden]... > > Actually, I hope they do post the warez links here. It makes it a lot > > easier for our lawyers to go after them. > > Actually it'd be cheaper to market your games worldwide than pay shit > lawyers! > > When will Americans become less provincial and start having global vision! > > Alan[email hidden] (Marc Davey) writes:
> LOL as usual you half wit plonkers have replied without actually
> reading what was actually said. Read it again and then re read it (or
> how ever many times it takes to actually sink in)
Yes, I read it two times. After the first one it looks like you are a
whiner, and after the second it looks like you are a even biggen
whiner.
Ed Martin has been great with answering questions, and the only thing
negative crap like this is going to do is that Ed will stop posting to
this newsgroup, remember the C:PR fuzz anyone ?
It's Hasbro's decision, not Ed's that NH is not getting outside US
distribution, so give Hasbro the flak, not a person who is only trying
to help people.
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In article <gGTm5.161093$[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...
> What NASCAR track is in Australia? What year was it used?
AUSCAR actually, I don't think he meant that it was actually part of the
NASCAR calendar. Not sure what it's called now, but it used to be called
the Thunderdome. I've (not in person) seen NASCAR equivalents race there,
our own Ford vs Holden big blocks race there and the Holden HQ series
race there.
Cheers,
Rod.
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> >Ed Martin has been great with answering questions, and the only thing >negative crap like this is going to do is that Ed will stop posting to >this newsgroup, remember the C:PR fuzz anyone ? > >It's Hasbro's decision, not Ed's that NH is not getting outside US >distribution, so give Hasbro the flak, not a person who is only trying >to help people.Coming in here threatening peaople with legal action isn't all that
helpful (if it is, explain to me how) no problem with the way Ed and
others have made themselves available to answer questions but refusing
(by omision) to answer a simple question and threatening people with
legal action instead just plain SUX
On 18 Aug 2000 12:37:46 +0200, [email hidden] (Olav
K. Malmin) wrote:
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>[email hidden] (Marc Davey) writes: > >> LOL as usual you half wit plonkers have replied without actually >> reading what was actually said. Read it again and then re read it (or >> how ever many times it takes to actually sink in) > >Yes, I read it two times. After the first one it looks like you are a >whiner, and after the second it looks like you are a even biggen >whiner. > >Ed Martin has been great with answering questions, and the only thing >negative crap like this is going to do is that Ed will stop posting to >this newsgroup, remember the C:PR fuzz anyone ? > >It's Hasbro's decision, not Ed's that NH is not getting outside US >distribution, so give Hasbro the flak, not a person who is only trying >to help people. > >-- >Olav K. Malmin >remove spam when replyingIn article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Marc
Davey) writes:
Oh, I'm sure they READ it. They just don't AGREE with it...
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>LOL as usual you half wit plonkers have replied without actually >reading what was actually said. Read it again and then re read it (or >how ever many times it takes to actually sink in) > > >On Fri, 18 Aug 2000 02:34:54 +0200, "Jan Verschueren" ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Shoot... there's dozen's of 'm. ;-) >> >>Jan. >>=--- >>BillyBob wrote... >>> This moron is proof that there is an IDIOT in every village. >>> >> >> >He's not got the wrong guy, you have, look who he replied to.
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Alan Bernardo <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 01:17:56 GMT, "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> >If you know people who are getting games for free then why haven't you
> >turned them in to the cops? From what I've seen you rip apart anyone who
> >uses warez around here and threaten to turn them in, why haven't you
turned
> >in the people you write here about? Are they friends? Is it you? Just
> >wondering.
> >
> >Vintook
> >
>
> Find one message where I've ripped anyone apart who uses Warez.
> You've got the wrong guy here, though I still think pirating is wrong.
> But for argument's sake, Warez does help the gaming industry. And I
> think the industry realizes this, possibly, and is just using pirating
> as an excuse to do the things that they do.
>
> As I said in my last post (and my only post on this topic), a person
> is going to buy a game no matter what, if they have the money and the
> game is worth it. Warez allows folks to look a game over, as it is
> when released; and if the person likes what he or she sees, then
> they'll buy the game. If not, they will delete it from the hard
> drive. Those that might decide to keep a pirated game probably
> wouldn't have bought the game in the first place.
>
> Alanb
Why should he answer a post about warez? LOL! hello? 1, 2, 1, 2? Hello?
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Marc Davey <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Coming in here threatening peaople with legal action isn't all that
> helpful (if it is, explain to me how) no problem with the way Ed and
> others have made themselves available to answer questions but refusing
> (by omision) to answer a simple question and threatening people with
> legal action instead just plain SUX
>
> On 18 Aug 2000 12:37:46 +0200, [email hidden] (Olav
> K. Malmin) wrote:
>
> >[email hidden] (Marc Davey) writes:
> >
> >> LOL as usual you half wit plonkers have replied without actually
> >> reading what was actually said. Read it again and then re read it (or
> >> how ever many times it takes to actually sink in)
> >
> >Yes, I read it two times. After the first one it looks like you are a
> >whiner, and after the second it looks like you are a even biggen
> >whiner.
> >
> >Ed Martin has been great with answering questions, and the only thing
> >negative crap like this is going to do is that Ed will stop posting to
> >this newsgroup, remember the C:PR fuzz anyone ?
> >
> >It's Hasbro's decision, not Ed's that NH is not getting outside US
> >distribution, so give Hasbro the flak, not a person who is only trying
> >to help people.
> >
> >--
> >Olav K. Malmin
> >remove spam when replying
>
If you know people who are getting games for free then why haven't you
turned them in to the cops? From what I've seen you rip apart anyone who
uses warez around here and threaten to turn them in, why haven't you turned
in the people you write here about? Are they friends? Is it you? Just
wondering.
Vintook
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> On Fri, 18 Aug 2000 14:13:10 GMT, Alan Bernardo <[email hidden]>wrote:
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> > >I know that I might be castigated for saying this, but Warez and such > >distributors of pirated games actually help computer gaming companies > >sell products. > > I disagree. > > >If you think about it, anyone who has money to spend > >and is generally a dedicated gamer, will buy whatever he has first > >gotten for free. > > Why? Why would a 'dedicated' gamer have to buy what he > got for free? Are you just making this up, or..? > > >And anyone who does not have money to burn and is > >also a gamer (can't be dedicated if you're pirating games) > > Why can't a person who uses warez be a 'dedicated' gamer? > I know several people who are -definitely- hardcore > dedicated gamers and they pay for almost nothing they play. > > >won't buy the games that he gets for free anyway. > > See above. > > >In the end the industry doesn't lose a lot of money, > > Yes they do. > > [snip silliness] >On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 01:17:56 GMT, "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Find one message where I've ripped anyone apart who uses Warez.
You've got the wrong guy here, though I still think pirating is wrong.
But for argument's sake, Warez does help the gaming industry. And I
think the industry realizes this, possibly, and is just using pirating
as an excuse to do the things that they do.
As I said in my last post (and my only post on this topic), a person
is going to buy a game no matter what, if they have the money and the
game is worth it. Warez allows folks to look a game over, as it is
when released; and if the person likes what he or she sees, then
they'll buy the game. If not, they will delete it from the hard
drive. Those that might decide to keep a pirated game probably
wouldn't have bought the game in the first place.
Alanb
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>If you know people who are getting games for free then why haven't you >turned them in to the cops? From what I've seen you rip apart anyone who >uses warez around here and threaten to turn them in, why haven't you turned >in the people you write here about? Are they friends? Is it you? Just >wondering. > >Vintook >Weak argument.
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Alan Bernardo <[email hidden]> wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 01:17:56 GMT, "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> >If you know people who are getting games for free then why haven'tyou
> >turned them in to the cops? From what I've seen you rip apart anyonewho
> >uses warez around here and threaten to turn them in, why haven't youturned
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> >in the people you write here about? Are they friends? Is it you? Just > >wondering. > > > >Vintook > > > > Find one message where I've ripped anyone apart who uses Warez. > You've got the wrong guy here, though I still think pirating is wrong. > But for argument's sake, Warez does help the gaming industry. And I > think the industry realizes this, possibly, and is just using pirating > as an excuse to do the things that they do. > > As I said in my last post (and my only post on this topic), a person > is going to buy a game no matter what, if they have the money and the > game is worth it. Warez allows folks to look a game over, as it is > when released; and if the person likes what he or she sees, then > they'll buy the game. If not, they will delete it from the hard > drive. Those that might decide to keep a pirated game probably > wouldn't have bought the game in the first place. > > Alanb >My post was to rrevved
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> On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 01:17:56 GMT, "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> >If you know people who are getting games for free then why haven't you
> >turned them in to the cops? From what I've seen you rip apart anyone who
> >uses warez around here and threaten to turn them in, why haven't youturned
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> >in the people you write here about? Are they friends? Is it you? Just > >wondering. > > > >Vintook > > > > Find one message where I've ripped anyone apart who uses Warez. > You've got the wrong guy here, though I still think pirating is wrong. > But for argument's sake, Warez does help the gaming industry. And I > think the industry realizes this, possibly, and is just using pirating > as an excuse to do the things that they do. > > As I said in my last post (and my only post on this topic), a person > is going to buy a game no matter what, if they have the money and the > game is worth it. Warez allows folks to look a game over, as it is > when released; and if the person likes what he or she sees, then > they'll buy the game. If not, they will delete it from the hard > drive. Those that might decide to keep a pirated game probably > wouldn't have bought the game in the first place. > > AlanbHow does the old saying go? Sarcasim is the lowest form of wit. I
guess flaming ppl you don't agree with is just todays way of proving
your ignorance. I wonder if these ppl would have the guts to do it
face to face..................
On 19 Aug 2000 17:51:31 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote:
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>In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Marc >Davey) writes: > >>LOL as usual you half wit plonkers have replied without actually >>reading what was actually said. Read it again and then re read it (or >>how ever many times it takes to actually sink in) >> >> >>On Fri, 18 Aug 2000 02:34:54 +0200, "Jan Verschueren" >><[email hidden]> wrote: >> >>>Shoot... there's dozen's of 'm. ;-) >>> >>>Jan. >>>=--- >>>BillyBob wrote... >>>> This moron is proof that there is an IDIOT in every village. >>>> >>> >>> >> > >Oh, I'm sure they READ it. They just don't AGREE with it... > >Eldred >-- >Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 >Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett >GPL hcp. +51.31 > >Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you >with experience... >Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.They might do it, but they'd regret it. ;-)
Jan.
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Marc Davey wrote...
> How does the old saying go? Sarcasim is the lowest
> form of wit. I guess flaming ppl you don't agree with
> is just todays way of proving your ignorance. I wonder
> if these ppl would have the guts to do it face to face.<snip>
lol ah I love this, coming here every day to a new pair of flamers... <g>
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> They might do it, but they'd regret it. ;-)
>
> Jan.
> =---
> Marc Davey wrote...
> > How does the old saying go? Sarcasim is the lowest
> > form of wit. I guess flaming ppl you don't agree with
> > is just todays way of proving your ignorance. I wonder
> > if these ppl would have the guts to do it face to face.
> <snip>
>
>
LOL! ;-)
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> I love a good discussion (argument?) but it all just seems to
> degenerate into name calling so quickly around here. (its like havin
> some extra wives LOL)
>
> On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 00:18:33 +0100, "Tim Wheatley"
> <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> >lol ah I love this, coming here every day to a new pair of flamers... <g>
> >
> >--
> >Tim,
> >[email hidden]|[email hidden]
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> >Jan Verschueren <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> >> They might do it, but they'd regret it. ;-)
> >>
> >> Jan.
> >> =---
> >> Marc Davey wrote...
> >> > How does the old saying go? Sarcasim is the lowest
> >> > form of wit. I guess flaming ppl you don't agree with
> >> > is just todays way of proving your ignorance. I wonder
> >> > if these ppl would have the guts to do it face to face.
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
I love a good discussion (argument?) but it all just seems to
degenerate into name calling so quickly around here. (its like havin
some extra wives LOL)
On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 00:18:33 +0100, "Tim Wheatley"
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>lol ah I love this, coming here every day to a new pair of flamers... <g> > >-- >Tim, >[email hidden]|[email hidden] >http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your league... >http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on gpl... >Jan Verschueren <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> They might do it, but they'd regret it. ;-) >> >> Jan. >> =--- >> Marc Davey wrote... >> > How does the old saying go? Sarcasim is the lowest >> > form of wit. I guess flaming ppl you don't agree with >> > is just todays way of proving your ignorance. I wonder >> > if these ppl would have the guts to do it face to face. >> <snip> >> >> > >In article <[email hidden]>, Alan Bernardo
<[email hidden]> writes:
I won't castigate you(sounds painful), but I'll disagree. I can see where
loaning your copy of a game to a friend might convince your friend to buy the
game. It's happened to me, both as 'loaner' and 'loanee'. But if you get a
warez copy, or burn the CD, there's not much incentive to buy the retail
package. Unless there's a nice historical manual, or something else you're
interested in, you already have everything you need. If you were going to buy
the game, you'd have done so in the first place.
Eldred
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>I know that I might be castigated for saying this, but Warez and such >distributors of pirated games actually help computer gaming companies >sell products. If you think about it, anyone who has money to spend >and is generally a dedicated gamer, will buy whatever he has first >gotten for free. And anyone who does not have money to burn and is >also a gamer (can't be dedicated if you're pirating games)won't buy >the games that he gets for free anyway. In the end the industry >doesn't lose a lot of money, though its ego gets a bit battered, >knowing that someone is getting something for free even though they >wouldn't have bought the product in the first place. >On 21 Aug 2000 20:46:23 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) thus
spoke:
Sure there is an incentive to still buy the game. *Every* game needs
patches and patches do not work on warez copies. If you have the warez
version of GP3 for example and you want the patch to fix the game
controller problems then you will most likely need to buy the game.
I've owned maybe one or two games in the last 6 years that didn't need
a patch(s).
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>I won't castigate you(sounds painful), but I'll disagree. I can see where >loaning your copy of a game to a friend might convince your friend to buy the >game. It's happened to me, both as 'loaner' and 'loanee'. But if you get a >warez copy, or burn the CD, there's not much incentive to buy the retail >package. Unless there's a nice historical manual, or something else you're >interested in, you already have everything you need. If you were going to buy >the game, you'd have done so in the first place. > >EldredOn Mon, 21 Aug 2000 17:48:20 -0500, rrevved
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>Not true. The patches are all warez'd as well.
I've seen a few warez patches around, but not very many of them.
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