Re: nascar heat..rear camber change?..where?

Nope you're not missing anything. It's not there....As far as I know, they don't do camber changes to the rears in Nascar.

I THINK (don't quote me on this), that Nascar's have solid rear axle suspension, and the camber can't be changed there because of that. Todd Wasson

Hi, Trying to change the setup i couldn't seem to change rear camber... only the front... me missing something there? cheers, willem

hi, Hmm..learn something new everyday...gg So where do i buy a different rear axle? seriously...how does this work on 'non-ovals'... different axle? cheers, willem On 18 Aug 2000 21:37:07 GMT, [email hidden] (JTW62074) wrote: > I THINK (don't quote me on this), that Nascar's have solid rear axle >suspension, and the camber can't be changed there because of that. > >Todd Wasson

Because of the splines you can get a little bit of camber... past a certain amount, you get a lot of busted axles, so NASCAR limited it to (IIRC) 1.8 degrees. We used to have an adjustment in the garage, but Bobby L. said that they just max it out, flopped over to the left for ovals (+1.8, -1.8), and flopped inwards for road courses (-1.8, -1.8), so that's what we did. Probably it would've been clearer to leave it as an adjustment anyways, but Oh Well. -Dave P. MGI Goy Larsen wrote in message <[email hidden]>...

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> > >JTW62074 wrote: >> >> I THINK (don't quote me on this), that Nascar's have solid rear axle >> suspension, and the camber can't be changed there because of that. > >To be really picky :-), you *can* change the camber on a solid axle if >you really want to, you can actually bend the housing and get a small >degree of camber change, nothing that you'd want to do on a car that's >supposed to do a lot of mileage, I do however think that there's a rule >about this in Nascar > > >Beers and cheers >(uncle) Goy > >"Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ >"The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > >* Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * >"Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

Bwoh... if that's what the pro's do, it's good enough for the likes of me. Jan. =--- Dave P. wrote... > <snip> We used to have an adjustment in the garage, but > Bobby L. said that they just max it out, flopped over to > the left for ovals (+1.8, -1.8), and flopped inwards for > road courses (-1.8, -1.8), so that's what we did. > -Dave P. > MGI

As I recall in a race a while back (dont know where, dont know when) a few teams tried messing with the rear camber and ended up burning the rear-ends on 'em...

and nobody calls them "Nascar's"....hmpf!! :-)

>and nobody calls them "Nascar's"....hmpf!! :-) I know that... Really... I've never said that before... Uh, huh.... :-) Todd Wasson

>Hmm..learn something new everyday...gg >So where do i buy a different rear axle? >seriously...how does this work on 'non-ovals'... >different axle? Not sure. I'm not an expert on suspension systems, especially if you single out Nascar---cars. (Thank you, Mike ;-) ) I suspect they use the same solid rear axle for every track, as going to independent and back again probably takes a while. Come to think of it, it's probably not allowed in Nascar at all. The cool thing about solid axles is they more or less have 0 camber all the time, so there's great grip. I know, I know, what's the point of independent then? Hmmm.... Maybe it's a sprung to unsprung mass ratio thing, or a bump/rough traction thing. I do know this: You can divorce the differential from the axle with independent suspension and cancel out the tendency to spin the right side tire first. Again, I'm no expert on Nascar rules or suspension systems in general, but that's probably one benefit. Plus, I'd imagine that tire distortion gives you a little less grip than you'd have if you could tip the rear tires in a little, or maybe down towards the corner at an oval track. Camber thrust gives a little more lateral force when the tire is tipped into the corner (to a point). That means you get better cornering power. Anyway, that's a couple things. Todd Wasson

hey Todd..I need a suspension specialist for the upcoming game...doing anything? :-) pay stinks but the work is fun!

JTW62074 wrote: > > I THINK (don't quote me on this), that Nascar's have solid rear axle > suspension, and the camber can't be changed there because of that. To be really picky :-), you *can* change the camber on a solid axle if you really want to, you can actually bend the housing and get a small degree of camber change, nothing that you'd want to do on a car that's supposed to do a lot of mileage, I do however think that there's a rule about this in Nascar Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

>hey Todd..I need a suspension specialist for the upcoming game...doing >anything? :-) pay stinks but the work is fun! Hmmm.... As long as it's for those cool "Nascars". :-) Drop me a note if you're serious, otherwise, I'll keep working on my resume! ;-) (Please send all your money and old computer systems to:) Todd Wasson Performance Simulations Drag Racing and Top Speed Prediction Software http://PerformanceSimulations.Com