How can I cut replays?
I don't really want to send people a whole race just for a close finish or
something :-)
--
Tim,
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http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on gpl...
I don't think you can, I was dissappointed with that. I also wish it saved
screen shots to the hard drive similar to N3, where you could view a replay
and save several without having to exit and paste in a paint program
individually.
--
Don Burnette
Dburn in N3 and Legends
ICQ# 74084566
"Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:8nn4o1$sc4$[email hidden]...
> How can I cut replays?
>
> I don't really want to send people a whole race just for a close finish or
> something :-)
>
> --
> Tim,
> [email hidden]|[email hidden]
> http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your
league...
> http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on
gpl...
>
>
No Save Game, or the ability to cut replay's as well as the screenshot issue are
definitely a problem, but since we probably won't see any type of patch for these
options I just try to blow them off and enjoy NH for what it is. The absence of
these things just give me more reason to look forward to N4...
--David
In article <%YEn5.1046$[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
wrote...
Quoted text (29 lines)
> I don't think you can, I was dissappointed with that. I also wish it saved > screen shots to the hard drive similar to N3, where you could view a replay > and save several without having to exit and paste in a paint program > individually. > > -- > Don Burnette > Dburn in N3 and Legends > ICQ# 74084566 > > "Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8nn4o1$sc4$[email hidden]... > > How can I cut replays? > > > > I don't really want to send people a whole race just for a close finish or > > something :-) > > > > -- > > Tim, > > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your > league... > > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on > gpl... > > > > > > >Er... people will see that in a replay or when racing them online though,
anyone who does that is only cheating themselves in offline competition..
--
Tim,
[email hidden]|[email hidden]
http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your league...
http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on gpl...
Adam <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:UZGn5.47665$[email hidden]...
> There's also a very important new issue concerning Heat in jacob's
> nh.discussion newsgroup. Apparently, you can purposely run full speed
down
> straightaways and ricochet off of the wall between turns 1 and 2, and
turns
> 3 and 4 and get very fast speeds. This is using HARDCORE mode and NORMAL
> WEAR settings. This has also been verified that it can be done in the
full
> version. The reason it can be done is because NH doesn't model damage
> realistically.
>
> So add that to No Save Game, no ability to cut replays, and no
> screenshots.....and well. I think most of us will still be buying it
> because it's new and fresh and has very good physics, but I can see Nascar
> Heat getting old VERY fast.
>
> Interestingly enough, no one at Hasbro is touching the ricochet laps issue
> with a ten-foot-pole. There are two very large threads concerning the
issue
> and not a single post from Hasbro although they answer most other posts
> around it. =)
>
>
>
> "David L. Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
> > No Save Game, or the ability to cut replay's as well as the screenshot
> issue are
> > definitely a problem, but since we probably won't see any type of patch
> for these
> > options I just try to blow them off and enjoy NH for what it is. The
> absence of
> > these things just give me more reason to look forward to N4...
> >
> > --David
> >
> > In article <%YEn5.1046$[email hidden]>,
> [email hidden]
> > wrote...
> > > I don't think you can, I was dissappointed with that. I also wish it
> saved
> > > screen shots to the hard drive similar to N3, where you could view a
> replay
> > > and save several without having to exit and paste in a paint program
> > > individually.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Don Burnette
> > > Dburn in N3 and Legends
> > > ICQ# 74084566
> > >
> > > "Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > > news:8nn4o1$sc4$[email hidden]...
> > > > How can I cut replays?
> > > >
> > > > I don't really want to send people a whole race just for a close
> finish or
> > > > something :-)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Tim,
> > > > [email hidden]|[email hidden]
> > > > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your
> > > league...
> > > > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on
> > > gpl...
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
id love to see that 20 sec richmond lap youve done....could you put it on
your site? was it in hardcore mode? what setup you use?
pez
Tim Wheatley wrote in message <8nn4o1$sc4$[email hidden]>...
league...
>http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on gpl...
>
>
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>How can I cut replays? > >I don't really want to send people a whole race just for a close finish or >something :-) > >-- >Tim, >[email hidden]|[email hidden] >http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for youryoure a full second quicker than everyone....you race in hardcore mode
right????
pez the sceptic....:)
pez wrote in message <8nnbfl$rmk$[email hidden]>...
gpl...
>>
>>
>
>
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>id love to see that 20 sec richmond lap youve done....could you put it on >your site? was it in hardcore mode? what setup you use? > >pez >Tim Wheatley wrote in message <8nn4o1$sc4$[email hidden]>... >>How can I cut replays? >> >>I don't really want to send people a whole race just for a close finish or >>something :-) >> >>-- >>Tim, >>[email hidden]|[email hidden] >>http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your >league... >>http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based onThere's also a very important new issue concerning Heat in jacob's
nh.discussion newsgroup. Apparently, you can purposely run full speed down
straightaways and ricochet off of the wall between turns 1 and 2, and turns
3 and 4 and get very fast speeds. This is using HARDCORE mode and NORMAL
WEAR settings. This has also been verified that it can be done in the full
version. The reason it can be done is because NH doesn't model damage
realistically.
So add that to No Save Game, no ability to cut replays, and no
screenshots.....and well. I think most of us will still be buying it
because it's new and fresh and has very good physics, but I can see Nascar
Heat getting old VERY fast.
Interestingly enough, no one at Hasbro is touching the ricochet laps issue
with a ten-foot-pole. There are two very large threads concerning the issue
and not a single post from Hasbro although they answer most other posts
around it. =)
"David L. Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> No Save Game, or the ability to cut replay's as well as the screenshotissue are
> definitely a problem, but since we probably won't see any type of patchfor these
> options I just try to blow them off and enjoy NH for what it is. Theabsence of
> these things just give me more reason to look forward to N4...
>
> --David
>
> In article <%YEn5.1046$[email hidden]>,[email hidden]
> wrote...
> > I don't think you can, I was dissappointed with that. I also wish itsaved
> > screen shots to the hard drive similar to N3, where you could view areplay
finish or
Quoted text (13 lines)
> > and save several without having to exit and paste in a paint program > > individually. > > > > -- > > Don Burnette > > Dburn in N3 and Legends > > ICQ# 74084566 > > > > "Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:8nn4o1$sc4$[email hidden]... > > > How can I cut replays? > > > > > > I don't really want to send people a whole race just for a closeQuoted text (14 lines)
> > > something :-) > > > > > > -- > > > Tim, > > > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > > > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your > > league... > > > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on > > gpl... > > > > > > > > > > > >Sounds like 3 very good reasons for a patch to me.
--
Don Burnette
Dburn in N3 and Legends
ICQ# 74084566
"Adam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:UZGn5.47665$[email hidden]...
> There's also a very important new issue concerning Heat in jacob's
> nh.discussion newsgroup. Apparently, you can purposely run full speed
down
> straightaways and ricochet off of the wall between turns 1 and 2, and
turns
> 3 and 4 and get very fast speeds. This is using HARDCORE mode and NORMAL
> WEAR settings. This has also been verified that it can be done in the
full
> version. The reason it can be done is because NH doesn't model damage
> realistically.
>
> So add that to No Save Game, no ability to cut replays, and no
> screenshots.....and well. I think most of us will still be buying it
> because it's new and fresh and has very good physics, but I can see Nascar
> Heat getting old VERY fast.
>
> Interestingly enough, no one at Hasbro is touching the ricochet laps issue
> with a ten-foot-pole. There are two very large threads concerning the
issue
> and not a single post from Hasbro although they answer most other posts
> around it. =)
>
>
>
> "David L. Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
> > No Save Game, or the ability to cut replay's as well as the screenshot
> issue are
> > definitely a problem, but since we probably won't see any type of patch
> for these
> > options I just try to blow them off and enjoy NH for what it is. The
> absence of
> > these things just give me more reason to look forward to N4...
> >
> > --David
> >
> > In article <%YEn5.1046$[email hidden]>,
> [email hidden]
> > wrote...
> > > I don't think you can, I was dissappointed with that. I also wish it
> saved
> > > screen shots to the hard drive similar to N3, where you could view a
> replay
> > > and save several without having to exit and paste in a paint program
> > > individually.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Don Burnette
> > > Dburn in N3 and Legends
> > > ICQ# 74084566
> > >
> > > "Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > > news:8nn4o1$sc4$[email hidden]...
> > > > How can I cut replays?
> > > >
> > > > I don't really want to send people a whole race just for a close
> finish or
> > > > something :-)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Tim,
> > > > [email hidden]|[email hidden]
> > > > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your
> > > league...
> > > > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on
> > > gpl...
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
The damage model in the demo is "Normal Mode" damage and it can not be
adjusted in the demo. In the retail product, damage is more realistic & it
is adjustable. So, any "bouncing off the walls" will be relegated to people
who enjoy Normal Mode.
--ed.
"Adam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:UZGn5.47665$[email hidden]...
> There's also a very important new issue concerning Heat in jacob's
> nh.discussion newsgroup. Apparently, you can purposely run full speeddown
> straightaways and ricochet off of the wall between turns 1 and 2, andturns
> 3 and 4 and get very fast speeds. This is using HARDCORE mode and NORMAL
> WEAR settings. This has also been verified that it can be done in thefull
issue
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> version. The reason it can be done is because NH doesn't model damage > realistically. > > So add that to No Save Game, no ability to cut replays, and no > screenshots.....and well. I think most of us will still be buying it > because it's new and fresh and has very good physics, but I can see Nascar > Heat getting old VERY fast. > > Interestingly enough, no one at Hasbro is touching the ricochet laps issue > with a ten-foot-pole. There are two very large threads concerning theQuoted text (54 lines)
> and not a single post from Hasbro although they answer most other posts > around it. =) > > > > "David L. Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > No Save Game, or the ability to cut replay's as well as the screenshot > issue are > > definitely a problem, but since we probably won't see any type of patch > for these > > options I just try to blow them off and enjoy NH for what it is. The > absence of > > these things just give me more reason to look forward to N4... > > > > --David > > > > In article <%YEn5.1046$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] > > wrote... > > > I don't think you can, I was dissappointed with that. I also wish it > saved > > > screen shots to the hard drive similar to N3, where you could view a > replay > > > and save several without having to exit and paste in a paint program > > > individually. > > > > > > -- > > > Don Burnette > > > Dburn in N3 and Legends > > > ICQ# 74084566 > > > > > > "Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:8nn4o1$sc4$[email hidden]... > > > > How can I cut replays? > > > > > > > > I don't really want to send people a whole race just for a close > finish or > > > > something :-) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Tim, > > > > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > > > > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your > > > league... > > > > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on > > > gpl... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >There is not a way to cut/edit replays built into the game.
"Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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league...
> http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based ongpl...
>
>
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> How can I cut replays? > > I don't really want to send people a whole race just for a close finish or > something :-) > > -- > Tim, > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for yourExplain how you have to put the Wear Setting on "x2" or "2.0" or whatever
the setting is called to get realistic damage. Meaning everything wears
twice as much, including tires and I'm assuming brakes, engine, etc. as
well. Waiting for your reply.
"Ed Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:iaTn5.37852$[email hidden]...
> The damage model in the demo is "Normal Mode" damage and it can not be
> adjusted in the demo. In the retail product, damage is more realistic &it
> is adjustable. So, any "bouncing off the walls" will be relegated topeople
NORMAL
Nascar
> > Heat getting old VERY fast.
> >
> > Interestingly enough, no one at Hasbro is touching the ricochet lapsissue
patch
on
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> who enjoy Normal Mode. > > --ed. > > > "Adam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:UZGn5.47665$[email hidden]... > > There's also a very important new issue concerning Heat in jacob's > > nh.discussion newsgroup. Apparently, you can purposely run full speed > down > > straightaways and ricochet off of the wall between turns 1 and 2, and > turns > > 3 and 4 and get very fast speeds. This is using HARDCORE mode andQuoted text (8 lines)
> > WEAR settings. This has also been verified that it can be done in the > full > > version. The reason it can be done is because NH doesn't model damage > > realistically. > > > > So add that to No Save Game, no ability to cut replays, and no > > screenshots.....and well. I think most of us will still be buying it > > because it's new and fresh and has very good physics, but I can seeQuoted text (12 lines)
> > with a ten-foot-pole. There are two very large threads concerning the > issue > > and not a single post from Hasbro although they answer most other posts > > around it. =) > > > > > > > > "David L. Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > No Save Game, or the ability to cut replay's as well as the screenshot > > issue are > > > definitely a problem, but since we probably won't see any type ofQuoted text (36 lines)
> > for these > > > options I just try to blow them off and enjoy NH for what it is. The > > absence of > > > these things just give me more reason to look forward to N4... > > > > > > --David > > > > > > In article <%YEn5.1046$[email hidden]>, > > [email hidden] > > > wrote... > > > > I don't think you can, I was dissappointed with that. I also wish it > > saved > > > > screen shots to the hard drive similar to N3, where you could view a > > replay > > > > and save several without having to exit and paste in a paint program > > > > individually. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Don Burnette > > > > Dburn in N3 and Legends > > > > ICQ# 74084566 > > > > > > > > "Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:8nn4o1$sc4$[email hidden]... > > > > > How can I cut replays? > > > > > > > > > > I don't really want to send people a whole race just for a close > > finish or > > > > > something :-) > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Tim, > > > > > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > > > > > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your > > > > league... > > > > > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely basedQuoted text (10 lines)
> > > > gpl... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Yeah, didn't think you would answer. Guess you have a game to sell
tommorrow.
"Adam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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posts
screenshot
> > > issue are
> > > > definitely a problem, but since we probably won't see any type of
> patch
> > > for these
> > > > options I just try to blow them off and enjoy NH for what it is.The
it
> > > saved
> > > > > screen shots to the hard drive similar to N3, where you could viewa
> > > replay
> > > > > and save several without having to exit and paste in a paintprogram
your
> > > > > league...
> > > > > > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website looselybased
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> Explain how you have to put the Wear Setting on "x2" or "2.0" or whatever > the setting is called to get realistic damage. Meaning everything wears > twice as much, including tires and I'm assuming brakes, engine, etc. as > well. Waiting for your reply. > > > "Ed Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:iaTn5.37852$[email hidden]... > > The damage model in the demo is "Normal Mode" damage and it can not be > > adjusted in the demo. In the retail product, damage is more realistic & > it > > is adjustable. So, any "bouncing off the walls" will be relegated to > people > > who enjoy Normal Mode. > > > > --ed. > > > > > > "Adam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:UZGn5.47665$[email hidden]... > > > There's also a very important new issue concerning Heat in jacob's > > > nh.discussion newsgroup. Apparently, you can purposely run full speed > > down > > > straightaways and ricochet off of the wall between turns 1 and 2, and > > turns > > > 3 and 4 and get very fast speeds. This is using HARDCORE mode and > NORMAL > > > WEAR settings. This has also been verified that it can be done in the > > full > > > version. The reason it can be done is because NH doesn't model damage > > > realistically. > > > > > > So add that to No Save Game, no ability to cut replays, and no > > > screenshots.....and well. I think most of us will still be buying it > > > because it's new and fresh and has very good physics, but I can see > Nascar > > > Heat getting old VERY fast. > > > > > > Interestingly enough, no one at Hasbro is touching the ricochet laps > issue > > > with a ten-foot-pole. There are two very large threads concerning the > > issue > > > and not a single post from Hasbro although they answer most otherQuoted text (7 lines)
> > > around it. =) > > > > > > > > > > > > "David L. Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > No Save Game, or the ability to cut replay's as well as theQuoted text (9 lines)
> > > absence of > > > > these things just give me more reason to look forward to N4... > > > > > > > > --David > > > > > > > > In article <%YEn5.1046$[email hidden]>, > > > [email hidden] > > > > wrote... > > > > > I don't think you can, I was dissappointed with that. I also wishQuoted text (19 lines)
> > > > > individually. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Don Burnette > > > > > Dburn in N3 and Legends > > > > > ICQ# 74084566 > > > > > > > > > > "Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:8nn4o1$sc4$[email hidden]... > > > > > > How can I cut replays? > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't really want to send people a whole race just for a close > > > finish or > > > > > > something :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Tim, > > > > > > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > > > > > > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums forQuoted text (13 lines)
> on > > > > > gpl... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Ed Martin <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:iaTn5.37852$[email hidden]...
> The damage model in the demo is "Normal Mode" damage and it can not be
> adjusted in the demo. In the retail product, damage is more realistic &it
> is adjustable. So, any "bouncing off the walls" will be relegated topeople
> who enjoy Normal Mode.
Both of them?
Pops...
Just because SCGT had a 2X setting, doesn't mean that's how NH works. I
would assume there is a normal and "hardcore" wear setting so that
everything wears a little easier not by multipliers, but my realism.
And btw. Ed can't reply to everything, so any conclusions that are drawn are
simply speculation.
Adam <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:ckYn5.50708$[email hidden]...
posts
screenshot
> > > issue are
> > > > definitely a problem, but since we probably won't see any type of
> patch
> > > for these
> > > > options I just try to blow them off and enjoy NH for what it is.The
it
> > > saved
> > > > > screen shots to the hard drive similar to N3, where you could viewa
> > > replay
> > > > > and save several without having to exit and paste in a paintprogram
your
> > > > > league...
> > > > > > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website looselybased
Quoted text (43 lines)
> Explain how you have to put the Wear Setting on "x2" or "2.0" or whatever > the setting is called to get realistic damage. Meaning everything wears > twice as much, including tires and I'm assuming brakes, engine, etc. as > well. Waiting for your reply. > > > "Ed Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:iaTn5.37852$[email hidden]... > > The damage model in the demo is "Normal Mode" damage and it can not be > > adjusted in the demo. In the retail product, damage is more realistic & > it > > is adjustable. So, any "bouncing off the walls" will be relegated to > people > > who enjoy Normal Mode. > > > > --ed. > > > > > > "Adam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:UZGn5.47665$[email hidden]... > > > There's also a very important new issue concerning Heat in jacob's > > > nh.discussion newsgroup. Apparently, you can purposely run full speed > > down > > > straightaways and ricochet off of the wall between turns 1 and 2, and > > turns > > > 3 and 4 and get very fast speeds. This is using HARDCORE mode and > NORMAL > > > WEAR settings. This has also been verified that it can be done in the > > full > > > version. The reason it can be done is because NH doesn't model damage > > > realistically. > > > > > > So add that to No Save Game, no ability to cut replays, and no > > > screenshots.....and well. I think most of us will still be buying it > > > because it's new and fresh and has very good physics, but I can see > Nascar > > > Heat getting old VERY fast. > > > > > > Interestingly enough, no one at Hasbro is touching the ricochet laps > issue > > > with a ten-foot-pole. There are two very large threads concerning the > > issue > > > and not a single post from Hasbro although they answer most otherQuoted text (7 lines)
> > > around it. =) > > > > > > > > > > > > "David L. Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > No Save Game, or the ability to cut replay's as well as theQuoted text (9 lines)
> > > absence of > > > > these things just give me more reason to look forward to N4... > > > > > > > > --David > > > > > > > > In article <%YEn5.1046$[email hidden]>, > > > [email hidden] > > > > wrote... > > > > > I don't think you can, I was dissappointed with that. I also wishQuoted text (19 lines)
> > > > > individually. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Don Burnette > > > > > Dburn in N3 and Legends > > > > > ICQ# 74084566 > > > > > > > > > > "Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:8nn4o1$sc4$[email hidden]... > > > > > > How can I cut replays? > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't really want to send people a whole race just for a close > > > finish or > > > > > > something :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Tim, > > > > > > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > > > > > > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums forQuoted text (13 lines)
> on > > > > > gpl... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >In article <%8do5.232$[email hidden]>, "Pops"
<[email hidden]> writes:
So, who's the other one? I'm still running Normal mode...
Eldred
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>Ed Martin <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:iaTn5.37852$[email hidden]... >> The damage model in the demo is "Normal Mode" damage and it can not be >> adjusted in the demo. In the retail product, damage is more realistic & >it >> is adjustable. So, any "bouncing off the walls" will be relegated to >people >> who enjoy Normal Mode. > >Both of them? > >Pops...
"Adam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Yeah, didn't think you would answer. Guess you have a game to sell
> tommorrow.
>Lay off the caffeine guy !
EldredP wrote
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> So, who's the other one? I'm still running Normal mode...
>
> Eldred
Me... ;)
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