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Re: Why does it keep losing my times at the Ring?

26 posts by 17 people · 22 Aug 2000 - 30 Aug 2000 01:04 UTC

GPL not recording lap times at the Nurburgring

Gary Brown complained GPL failed to record his sub-10-minute Nurburgring laps. Replies explained that the track.ini defines checkpoints at Nordkehre, Hatzenbach, Hocheichen and Adenauer Forst, and laps are voided if fewer than two wheels stay on track there; a read-only records file was another suggested cause.

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Yes, cutting corners unintencionally is the most likely. Hapeened to me once to, and I got really pissed. Louis Kurt Steinbock <[email hidden]> escreveu nas not�cias de mensagem:XgAo5.12086$%[email hidden]...
Quoted text (26 lines)> You might be cutting corners, intentionally or not, and therefore not > getting times registered. That happens. > > Kurt > > > Gary Brown wrote in message ... > >I am about to delete GPL in favour of GP3 because I am sick of trying > >to set times at the Ring and having the program not register the lap > >time. Three times now I have completed sub 10min laps and not had them > >register after crossing the start line. Twice using the default pit > >box where I have to do a whole lap first (wasting 22 minutes of my > >time in total) and once using the .ini changes to put the pit box > >before the second Karousel. > > > >This seems a major bug in the engine but I have not seen any other > >references to it from anybody else. Why of all tracks does it have to > >be the Ring that doesn't record lap times properly??? > > > > > > > > > > > >[email hidden] > >
no-name 22 Aug 2000#238837
You might be cutting one of the checkpoints, which, according to the track.ini file are: 1. Nordkehre II (Turn 4 -- after the tire wall on right) 2. Hatzenbach II (Tight Left Hander) 3. Hocheichen (Just after #2) 4. Adenauer Forst Here's the raw data [ configuration_0 ] ; Format: dlong, start dlat, end dlat, time penalty (sec), 0 (required) ; 3 checkpoint minimum checkpoint_0 = 2037.0 -14.0 7.5 5.0 0 ; prevents cutting Nordkehre II checkpoint_1 = 2763.3 -14.7 7.0 5.0 0 ; prevents cutting Hatzenbach II checkpoint_2 = 3138.0 -14.3 6.5 5.0 0 ; prevents cutting Hocheichen checkpoint_3 = 7069.5 -9.0 11.0 10.0 0 ; prevents cutting Adenauer Forst I had the same problem at Mexico, where I was (IIRC) cutting either turn 3 or 4. "Gary Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (17 lines)> I am about to delete GPL in favour of GP3 because I am sick of trying > to set times at the Ring and having the program not register the lap > time. Three times now I have completed sub 10min laps and not had them > register after crossing the start line. Twice using the default pit > box where I have to do a whole lap first (wasting 22 minutes of my > time in total) and once using the .ini changes to put the pit box > before the second Karousel. > > This seems a major bug in the engine but I have not seen any other > references to it from anybody else. Why of all tracks does it have to > be the Ring that doesn't record lap times properly??? > > > > > > [email hidden]
Gary Brown 22 Aug 2000 18:48 UTC#238827
I am about to delete GPL in favour of GP3 because I am sick of trying to set times at the Ring and having the program not register the lap time. Three times now I have completed sub 10min laps and not had them register after crossing the start line. Twice using the default pit box where I have to do a whole lap first (wasting 22 minutes of my time in total) and once using the .ini changes to put the pit box before the second Karousel. This seems a major bug in the engine but I have not seen any other references to it from anybody else. Why of all tracks does it have to be the Ring that doesn't record lap times properly??? [email hidden]
GraDee 22 Aug 2000 19:07 UTC#238831
Gary Brown <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> I am about to delete GPL in favour of GP3 because I am sick of trying > to set times at the Ring and having the program not register the lap > time. Three times now I have completed sub 10min laps and not had them > register after crossing the start line. Twice using the default pit > box where I have to do a whole lap first (wasting 22 minutes of my > time in total) and once using the .ini changes to put the pit box > before the second Karousel. > > This seems a major bug in the engine but I have not seen any other > references to it from anybody else. Why of all tracks does it have to > be the Ring that doesn't record lap times properly??? >
Had the same problem, try re-installing the game, but this is a pain if you have adons and stuff installed.
Kurt Steinbock 22 Aug 2000 19:12 UTC#238835
You might be cutting corners, intentionally or not, and therefore not getting times registered. That happens. Kurt Gary Brown wrote in message ...
Quoted text (17 lines)>I am about to delete GPL in favour of GP3 because I am sick of trying >to set times at the Ring and having the program not register the lap >time. Three times now I have completed sub 10min laps and not had them >register after crossing the start line. Twice using the default pit >box where I have to do a whole lap first (wasting 22 minutes of my >time in total) and once using the .ini changes to put the pit box >before the second Karousel. > >This seems a major bug in the engine but I have not seen any other >references to it from anybody else. Why of all tracks does it have to >be the Ring that doesn't record lap times properly??? > > > > > >[email hidden]
Ville V Sinkko 22 Aug 2000 19:23 UTC#238740
Gary Brown <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (11 lines)> I am about to delete GPL in favour of GP3 because I am sick of trying > to set times at the Ring and having the program not register the lap > time. Three times now I have completed sub 10min laps and not had them > register after crossing the start line. Twice using the default pit > box where I have to do a whole lap first (wasting 22 minutes of my > time in total) and once using the .ini changes to put the pit box > before the second Karousel. > This seems a major bug in the engine but I have not seen any other > references to it from anybody else. Why of all tracks does it have to > be the Ring that doesn't record lap times properly???
Check the nurburg/track.ini file for four "checkpoints": If you drive through Nordkehre's second part, Hatzenbach, Hocheichen or Adenauer Forst with less than two wheels on the track, the computer voids your lap because you've taken an illegal shortcut. There are similar places on other tracks, but on this particular track those are just plain mean until you've memorized the places entirely. Adenauer Forst was very hard for me to remember because of its blind approach and the ease of simply driving through it. If someone is feeling that the Ring is simply too horrible and annoying to drive, hop in a Cooper and try the Test Drive approach. That is, imagine you're being chased by cops around a public road. :P (now if only I could get a mod that turns the Cooper into an MGB convertible lookalike... preferably red please...) +Cinquo
Freeburn 22 Aug 2000 20:39 UTC#238742
> (now if only I could get a mod that turns the Cooper into an MGB > convertible lookalike... preferably red please...) In the UK only Hairdressers are ALLOWED to drive MGB's ;) (j/k btw) Freeburn (Chasing jbodin on GPLRank, here comes *johnny*)
GraDee 22 Aug 2000 21:21 UTC#238698
Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (19 lines)> On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 20:07:23 +0100, "9Wright7" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >Gary Brown <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> I am about to delete GPL in favour of GP3 because I am sick of trying > >> to set times at the Ring and having the program not register the lap > >> time. Three times now I have completed sub 10min laps and not had them > >> register after crossing the start line. Twice using the default pit > >> box where I have to do a whole lap first (wasting 22 minutes of my > >> time in total) and once using the .ini changes to put the pit box > >> before the second Karousel. > >> > >> This seems a major bug in the engine but I have not seen any other > >> references to it from anybody else. Why of all tracks does it have to > >> be the Ring that doesn't record lap times properly??? > >> > > > >Had the same problem, try re-installing the game, but this is a pain if
you
Quoted text (7 lines)> >have adons and stuff installed. > > No no no! The problem is most likely that he's cutting corners. When > you take some corners without 2 wheels on the road, the lap is not > counted. During a race this will even give you a black flag situation. > > Andre
hmmm.... cutting or no cutting the re-installation was the only thing that worked for me, I didn't get any DQ notice or anything as you usually would. Strange.
Ian P 22 Aug 2000 21:25 UTC#238702
The only time a Ring lap doesn't show for me is if I take to the grass, in effect cutting a corner. It see's it as a cut course and doesn't record the time. If you're staying on the track all the time and still not getting a time then I'd duggest a reinstall. -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> Gary Brown <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I am about to delete GPL in favour of GP3 because I am sick of trying > to set times at the Ring and having the program not register the lap > time. Three times now I have completed sub 10min laps and not had them > register after crossing the start line. Twice using the default pit > box where I have to do a whole lap first (wasting 22 minutes of my > time in total) and once using the .ini changes to put the pit box > before the second Karousel. > > This seems a major bug in the engine but I have not seen any other > references to it from anybody else. Why of all tracks does it have to > be the Ring that doesn't record lap times properly??? > > > > > > [email hidden]
Andre Warringa 22 Aug 2000 23:14 UTC#238690
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 20:07:23 +0100, "9Wright7" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (18 lines)> >Gary Brown <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> I am about to delete GPL in favour of GP3 because I am sick of trying >> to set times at the Ring and having the program not register the lap >> time. Three times now I have completed sub 10min laps and not had them >> register after crossing the start line. Twice using the default pit >> box where I have to do a whole lap first (wasting 22 minutes of my >> time in total) and once using the .ini changes to put the pit box >> before the second Karousel. >> >> This seems a major bug in the engine but I have not seen any other >> references to it from anybody else. Why of all tracks does it have to >> be the Ring that doesn't record lap times properly??? >> > >Had the same problem, try re-installing the game, but this is a pain if you >have adons and stuff installed.
No no no! The problem is most likely that he's cutting corners. When you take some corners without 2 wheels on the road, the lap is not counted. During a race this will even give you a black flag situation. Andre
In article <[email hidden]>, Gary Brown <[email hidden]> writes: > ... Three times now I have completed sub 10min laps and not had them >register after crossing the start line. Twice using the default pit >box where I have to do a whole lap first (wasting 22 minutes of my >time in total) Driving along the ring is never "wasted time" - you'll get a better feeling for the track, the car ... Hmm... or is it that way: Driving laps on a sim always means wasting your time... Calis (currently wasting time to reach 8:20 ...)
Andre Warringa 23 Aug 2000 01:16 UTC#238661
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:21:16 +0100, "9Wright7" <[email hidden]> wrote: >hmmm.... cutting or no cutting the re-installation was the only thing that >worked for me, I didn't get any DQ notice or anything as you usually would. >Strange. Yes, real strange... did you modify one of the Ring files or something like that? Andre
Mats Lofkvist 23 Aug 2000 06:59 UTC#238483
Ville V Sinkko <[email hidden]> writes: [snip] > If you drive through Nordkehre's second part, Hatzenbach, Hocheichen > or Adenauer Forst with less than two wheels on the track, the computer > voids your lap because you've taken an illegal shortcut. There are > similar places on other tracks, but on this particular track those > are just plain mean until you've memorized the places entirely. Note that to make a lap qualify at the hotlap sites, you are not allowed to have less than two wheels on the track at any place. I.e. you don't have to remember any checkpoints since you are supposed to stay on track all the way around :-) _ Mats Lofkvist [email hidden] GPLRank -0.14
Olav K. Malmin 23 Aug 2000 07:30 UTC#238338
Gary Brown <[email hidden]> writes: > I am about to delete GPL in favour of GP3 Sorry if this is waaaay off topic, but why don't have both ? This is not directed at you in any way, but why do I feel it is only allowed to have one sim at the time on the harddisk ? :) -- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying
Ville V Sinkko 23 Aug 2000 09:25 UTC#238346
Mats Lofkvist <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (14 lines)> Ville V Sinkko <[email hidden]> writes: > [snip] >> If you drive through Nordkehre's second part, Hatzenbach, Hocheichen >> or Adenauer Forst with less than two wheels on the track, the computer >> voids your lap because you've taken an illegal shortcut. There are >> similar places on other tracks, but on this particular track those >> are just plain mean until you've memorized the places entirely. > Note that to make a lap qualify at the hotlap sites, you are not > allowed to have less than two wheels on the track at any place. > I.e. you don't have to remember any checkpoints since you are > supposed to stay on track all the way around :-)
Oh, yeah, sorry, I didn't think about that. But at a handicap of 150-something I really don't feel such a pressing urge to think about it in the first place. .) +Cinquo
Ian P 23 Aug 2000 16:05 UTC#238414
Perhaps he has a small disk <G> -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> Olav K. Malmin <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Gary Brown <[email hidden]> writes: > > > I am about to delete GPL in favour of GP3 > > Sorry if this is waaaay off topic, but why don't have both ? This is > not directed at you in any way, but why do I feel it is only allowed > to have one sim at the time on the harddisk ? > > :) > > -- > Olav K. Malmin > remove spam when replying
GraDee 23 Aug 2000 17:14 UTC#238430
Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:21:16 +0100, "9Wright7" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >hmmm.... cutting or no cutting the re-installation was the only thingthat > >worked for me, I didn't get any DQ notice or anything as you usuallywould. > >Strange. > > Yes, real strange... did you modify one of the Ring files or something > like that? > Nope, I did install the US Pits Super patch thingy though, that looked a bit messy, maybe it edited the ini file?!?!
Gary Brown 23 Aug 2000 18:22 UTC#238294
On 23 Aug 2000 09:30:18 +0200, [email hidden] (Olav K. Malmin) wrote:
Quoted text (9 lines)>Gary Brown <[email hidden]> writes: > >> I am about to delete GPL in favour of GP3 > >Sorry if this is waaaay off topic, but why don't have both ? This is >not directed at you in any way, but why do I feel it is only allowed >to have one sim at the time on the harddisk ? > >:)
You are right really, I was just so royally pissed about sweating my arse off (literally) doing a good lap and then getting shafted by the game;-) But the earlier replies do make sense, there is one blind sharp left after a long sequence of S bends that I always miss and short cut so maybe that's my problem. I like both games, for their own reasons. [email hidden]
Gary Brown 23 Aug 2000 18:23 UTC#238295
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:23:45 +0100, "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote: >The only time a Ring lap doesn't show for me is if I take to the grass, in >effect cutting a corner. It see's it as a cut course and doesn't record the >time. >If you're staying on the track all the time and still not getting a time >then I'd duggest a reinstall. If I was staying on the track all the time would I have a handicap of -253??? <G> Believe me, at the Ring I DREAM of staying on the track all the time. [email hidden]
Ian P 23 Aug 2000 21:56 UTC#238252
Not true. -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> nobody <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > If you're recovering (SHIFT+R) then you don't get a laptime for that > lap. > > Lars G.
nobody 23 Aug 2000 23:51 UTC#238251
If you're recovering (SHIFT+R) then you don't get a laptime for that lap. Lars G. On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 19:51:28 +0100, Gary Brown <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (17 lines)>I am about to delete GPL in favour of GP3 because I am sick of trying >to set times at the Ring and having the program not register the lap >time. Three times now I have completed sub 10min laps and not had them >register after crossing the start line. Twice using the default pit >box where I have to do a whole lap first (wasting 22 minutes of my >time in total) and once using the .ini changes to put the pit box >before the second Karousel. > >This seems a major bug in the engine but I have not seen any other >references to it from anybody else. Why of all tracks does it have to >be the Ring that doesn't record lap times properly??? > > > > > >[email hidden]
Chris Bloom 24 Aug 2000#238040
WRONG!! You do get a lap time if you Shift-R during a lap. You don't get a lap time however if you cut corners at certain places. That is the problem I believe. Chris -- nobody <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > If you're recovering (SHIFT+R) then you don't get a laptime for that > lap. > > Lars G. > On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 19:51:28 +0100, Gary Brown --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.177 / Virus Database: 86 - Release Date: 00/08/07
EldredP 24 Aug 2000 00:17 UTC#238201
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (nobody) writes: >If you're recovering (SHIFT+R) then you don't get a laptime for that >lap. > Sure, you do. Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +51.31 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Buzz O'Dea 24 Aug 2000 03:40 UTC#238143
make sure the "records" file in your nurburg track directory is not marked "READ ONLY" buzz
nobody 24 Aug 2000 20:20 UTC↳ reply to EldredP#237988
Really, i always thought that was why i didn't get any laptimes when i started at the ring. Maybe i DID take a few shortcuts then :-P Lars G. On 24 Aug 2000 00:17:36 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote:
Quoted text (10 lines)>In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (nobody) >writes: > >>If you're recovering (SHIFT+R) then you don't get a laptime for that >>lap. >> > >Sure, you do. > >Eldred
Simon Brown 30 Aug 2000 01:04 UTC#235700
Sorry if someones already posted this, but, If you cut certain corners at the Ring, whether deliberately or not, your lap won't count. "Gary Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (11 lines)> I am about to delete GPL in favour of GP3 because I am sick of trying > to set times at the Ring and having the program not register the lap > time. Three times now I have completed sub 10min laps and not had them > register after crossing the start line. Twice using the default pit > box where I have to do a whole lap first (wasting 22 minutes of my > time in total) and once using the .ini changes to put the pit box > before the second Karousel. > > This seems a major bug in the engine but I have not seen any other > references to it from anybody else. Why of all tracks does it have to > be the Ring that doesn't record lap times properly???

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