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Anyone tried the LWFF GP?

5 posts by 4 people · 23 Aug 2000 - 18 Sep 2000 22:34 UTC

(unknown) 23 Aug 2000#238504
I'm looking to buy a FF wheel and I noticed recently the GP version of logitech's formula force has been released. It's a little cheaper than the previous wheel and is a little larger in diameter. When I checked the logitech site they only have the Formula GP listed, not the FF version. The FF version is apparently selling now (buy.com), does anyone have this wheel or know any of the differences between this and the older model? Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
"SeymourButts" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:d%gx5.12399$[email hidden]... > I've pulled apart the new Logi Wheel and its construction internally isvery > cheap and simple. Its simply a motor mounted onto the plastic casingdrivin > a smaller plastic toothed sprocket, which drives a main sprocket on the > steering shaft which looks to be made of hardened plastic. Its nothingnear > the construction quality of the previous cable driven version. Man that sucks...I've been a fan of Logitech for a long time, keyboards, mice (mouses?), two LWFFs, joysticks. I saw the new wheels at Fry's yesterday and I can't believe they would replace the LWFF and the LWF with these plastic toys. Hell, my old TM GP1 feels better than the new WFGP, and the desk clamp actually works! I hope this isn't the direction the rest of the company is taking. -- don New GPL Programs for the Converted Tracks: http://www.ianparker1.plus.com/gpl/bapom/ You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.
L_NiN0 18 Sep 2000 04:05 UTC#231021
Yes I bought one - took it out of the box and put it back in the box to take back. I used a friends original FF before and this wheel is shyt compared to it. Wheel is now plastic with only a small area of hard red rubber covering (almost identical to MS FF) Buttons are not as well placed. Clamps ARE REALLY BAD - this is the main reason its going back. Small "L" clamp replace the larger "C" clamps they used before. L is so small it has less than a 1/2 to grip on to desk and then it only holds down the very front of unit. So when you put weight on the wheel the clamp acts as a pivot and allows the unit to wobble with the rear lifting off the desk. You can basically wobble it off your desk without ever losening the clamps. Wheel still feels belt driven to me but someone said its gear driven? Pedals have stronger springs but are still made of same single piece of molded grey plastic Pedal unit is not as flat and angles up in back so pedals can move more like a real pedal rather than straight down as the original did. Pedals, USB and power all plug into the wheel unit. Sorry - I didn't want to install the s/w because I know its going back no matter how great the FF is I wouldn't be able to keep it on my desk. <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8o0nri$j7e$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (11 lines)> I'm looking to buy a FF wheel and I noticed recently the GP version of > logitech's formula force has been released. It's a little cheaper than > the previous wheel and is a little larger in diameter. When I checked > the logitech site they only have the Formula GP listed, not the FF > version. The FF version is apparently selling now (buy.com), does > anyone have this wheel or know any of the differences between this and > the older model? > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.
I've pulled apart the new Logi Wheel and its construction internally is very cheap and simple. Its simply a motor mounted onto the plastic casing drivin a smaller plastic toothed sprocket, which drives a main sprocket on the steering shaft which looks to be made of hardened plastic. Its nothing near the construction quality of the previous cable driven version. L_NiN0 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:zwgx5.48844$[email hidden]... > Yes I bought one - took it out of the box and put it back in the box totake > back. I used a friends original FF before and this wheel is shyt comparedto
Quoted text (10 lines)> it. > > Wheel is now plastic with only a small area of hard red rubber covering > (almost identical to MS FF) > > Buttons are not as well placed. > > Clamps ARE REALLY BAD - this is the main reason its going back. Small "L" > clamp replace the larger > "C" clamps they used before. L is so small it has less than a 1/2 to grip
on > to desk and then it only holds down the very front of unit. So when youput > weight on the wheel the clamp acts as a pivot and allows the unit towobble
Quoted text (9 lines)> with the rear lifting off the desk. You can basically wobble it off your > desk without ever losening the clamps. > > Wheel still feels belt driven to me but someone said its gear driven? > > Pedals have stronger springs but are still made of same single piece of > molded grey plastic > > Pedal unit is not as flat and angles up in back so pedals can move more
like
Quoted text (9 lines)> a real pedal rather than straight down as the original did. > > Pedals, USB and power all plug into the wheel unit. > > Sorry - I didn't want to install the s/w because I know its going back no > matter how great the FF is I wouldn't be able to keep it on my desk. > > > <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:8o0nri$j7e$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (13 lines)> > I'm looking to buy a FF wheel and I noticed recently the GP version of > > logitech's formula force has been released. It's a little cheaper than > > the previous wheel and is a little larger in diameter. When I checked > > the logitech site they only have the Formula GP listed, not the FF > > version. The FF version is apparently selling now (buy.com), does > > anyone have this wheel or know any of the differences between this and > > the older model? > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy. > >
That answers that - its on its ways back to the shelves for the next inoccent customer and Im on my way over the actlab.com SeymourButts <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:d%gx5.12399$[email hidden]... > I've pulled apart the new Logi Wheel and its construction internally isvery > cheap and simple. Its simply a motor mounted onto the plastic casingdrivin > a smaller plastic toothed sprocket, which drives a main sprocket on the > steering shaft which looks to be made of hardened plastic. Its nothingnear
Quoted text (7 lines)> the construction quality of the previous cable driven version. > > L_NiN0 <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:zwgx5.48844$[email hidden]... > > Yes I bought one - took it out of the box and put it back in the box to > take > > back. I used a friends original FF before and this wheel is shyt
compared
Quoted text (9 lines)> to > > it. > > > > Wheel is now plastic with only a small area of hard red rubber covering > > (almost identical to MS FF) > > > > Buttons are not as well placed. > > > > Clamps ARE REALLY BAD - this is the main reason its going back. Small
"L" > > clamp replace the larger > > "C" clamps they used before. L is so small it has less than a 1/2 togrip
Quoted text (20 lines)> on > > to desk and then it only holds down the very front of unit. So when you > put > > weight on the wheel the clamp acts as a pivot and allows the unit to > wobble > > with the rear lifting off the desk. You can basically wobble it off your > > desk without ever losening the clamps. > > > > Wheel still feels belt driven to me but someone said its gear driven? > > > > Pedals have stronger springs but are still made of same single piece of > > molded grey plastic > > > > Pedal unit is not as flat and angles up in back so pedals can move more > like > > a real pedal rather than straight down as the original did. > > > > Pedals, USB and power all plug into the wheel unit. > > > > Sorry - I didn't want to install the s/w because I know its going back
no
Quoted text (7 lines)> > matter how great the FF is I wouldn't be able to keep it on my desk. > > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8o0nri$j7e$[email hidden]... > > > I'm looking to buy a FF wheel and I noticed recently the GP version of > > > logitech's formula force has been released. It's a little cheaper
than
Quoted text (13 lines)> > > the previous wheel and is a little larger in diameter. When I checked > > > the logitech site they only have the Formula GP listed, not the FF > > > version. The FF version is apparently selling now (buy.com), does > > > anyone have this wheel or know any of the differences between this and > > > the older model? > > > > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > > Before you buy. > > > > > >

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