more buttons :)
"Zeke Varg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Is there any difference between Microsoft�s FF-wheel and non-FF wheel
> (except , of course the Force Feedback)??????
>
>
Yes, force feedback.
<grin>
"Zeke Varg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Is there any difference between Microsoft�s FF-wheel and non-FF wheel
> (except , of course the Force Feedback)??????
>
>
Is there any difference between Microsoft�s FF-wheel and non-FF wheel
(except , of course the Force Feedback)??????
And a rubbery grip
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| more buttons :) | | "Zeke Varg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:k0Oo5.2852$[email hidden]... | > Is there any difference between Microsoft�s FF-wheel and non-FF wheel | > (except , of course the Force Feedback)?????? | > | > | |I have the one without force feedback and it has a center detent. I went to
the store to try the one with force feedback and it seems to me it doesn't
have the center detent.
"Zeke Varg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Is there any difference between Microsoft�s FF-wheel and non-FF wheel
> (except , of course the Force Feedback)??????
>
>
>
Hmmm... Rubber Grips :)
To the above: More buttons? are you counting the extra *1* to turn FF on and
off. .
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> Is there any difference between Microsoft�s FF-wheel and non-FF wheel
> (except , of course the Force Feedback)??????
>
>
As the box says it�s very precise, easy clamping, and other
features but that detent makes it a piece of CRAP. I would
recommend you not to buy it. For me is imposible to go
below 1.30�s in GPL with it. Just can�t make it go straight.
After various try out of wheels (TM Nascar, Mad Catz
Andretti, MSPreciscion, and so on) I found an used T2 and
modified for split pedals, waiting to see what to buy.
Thinking on a Logitech, but can�t decide between FF or nonFF
Luck
lito
Caracas, Venezuela
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In article <[email hidden]>,
lito <[email hidden]> wrote:
> As the box says it�s very precise, easy clamping, and other
> features but that detent makes it a piece of CRAP. I would
> recommend you not to buy it. For me is imposible to go
> below 1.30�s in GPL with it. Just can�t make it go straight.
>
I was wondering if it is possible to open up the
MS Precision Pro non-FF wheel, and disable the detent
somehow? Has anyone ever done this? My guess is
the spindle is D-shaped, and/or there is some sort
of plastic ring which locks it on the right and left
extremes, and "detents" it in the middle. Perhaps
the plastic ring could be modified or replaced?
--
Doug Appleyard
"Got us a Dirt Track Date, demolition derby figure 8"
-- Southern Culture On The Skids
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Before you buy.
I have had both logitechs and would really reccommend them....really nice
wheel....some people have a problem with the pedals though
Ash
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| As the box says it�s very precise, easy clamping, and other | features but that detent makes it a piece of CRAP. I would | recommend you not to buy it. For me is imposible to go | below 1.30�s in GPL with it. Just can�t make it go straight. | | After various try out of wheels (TM Nascar, Mad Catz | Andretti, MSPreciscion, and so on) I found an used T2 and | modified for split pedals, waiting to see what to buy. | Thinking on a Logitech, but can�t decide between FF or nonFF | | Luck | | lito | Caracas, Venezuela | | | | * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also findOn Thu, 24 Aug 2000 17:43:48 GMT, Doug Appleyard
<[email hidden]> thus spoke:
I have that wheel and was thinking about the same thing.
It's the only thing i don't like about the wheel. Let's test it on
your wheel. :-)
--
Nos
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>I was wondering if it is possible to open up the >MS Precision Pro non-FF wheel, and disable the detent >somehow? Has anyone ever done this? My guess is >the spindle is D-shaped, and/or there is some sort >of plastic ring which locks it on the right and left >extremes, and "detents" it in the middle. Perhaps >the plastic ring could be modified or replaced?In article <M5np5.55904$[email hidden]>,
"Terry Connors" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> I have it too and have been considering it. =)
>
Okay, here is a brief report on my aborted attempt to
do this. If you use a flashlight and peer into the unit
through the ventilation slots, you can see what implements
the detent. It looks like two heavy rubber bands on each
side of the spindle. When the wheel is centered, they
are slack. When turned to the extreme, they provide
resistance (one for each direction). So that's why it
gets progressively harder as you turn the wheel to the
extremes, and why it snaps back to the center.
These rubber bands do not implement the left and
right locks; this is done by a plastic disc around
the spindle directly behind the wheel itself.
So I'm thinking all I have to do is open the unit up
and hopefully unhook the rubber bands (or at worst
cut them - but I would hate to do this since I couldn't
reattach them if the results were unsatisfying).
I unscrewed the plate that holds on the clamp. 12 screws.
The plate comes right off and the clamp lifts outs. I set
it aside.
Then I unscrew the four screws holding the wheel housing's
base plate (the one with the rubber pads). (I hope there
are no screws hidden under the pads, since I would hate to
peel them off, then have to re-attach with krazy glue).
Does the base plate lift off? Noooooo, it is snapped in
something fierce. It appears to be snapped in where
the USB cable exits the unit. I think you hook it in
there, then press it into place. Hard. As you do, there
is a lip which fits into the area below the clamp plate,
and it snaps down over 4 or 6 screw "receptors". So
I think you have to pry the lip up, over the screw
receptors, and then pop the unit open. I pried as hard
as I could without getting to the point where something
breaks, but I could only get the base plate open
a half inch or so. So either you have to really
yank on it, or there are screws under the rubber pads,
or it snaps in so hard that it doesn't come open
again without breaking.
So I gave up. I put it back together and it still
works (whew!). There are two screws on the base plate
that won't go back in since I messed up their alignment
with their receptors, with all that prying. However,
due to the (as yet unseen) tabs snapping the base plate to
the upper half-dome of the housing, the unit stays
together as if the screws were there.
So I'm not much of a hardware type. Maybe someone
else will have better luck with this. I guess I will
just use the wheel for a while and eventually forget
about the detent; I'll just get used to it.
If anyone else tries this please let me know how it goes.
--
Doug Appleyard
"Got us a Dirt Track Date, demolition derby figure 8"
-- Southern Culture On The Skids
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I have it too and have been considering it. =)
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> On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 17:43:48 GMT, Doug Appleyard > <[email hidden]> thus spoke: > > > >I was wondering if it is possible to open up the > >MS Precision Pro non-FF wheel, and disable the detent > >somehow? Has anyone ever done this? My guess is > >the spindle is D-shaped, and/or there is some sort > >of plastic ring which locks it on the right and left > >extremes, and "detents" it in the middle. Perhaps > >the plastic ring could be modified or replaced? > > I have that wheel and was thinking about the same thing. > It's the only thing i don't like about the wheel. Let's test it on > your wheel. :-) > > -- > NosBy detent,do you mean a snappy return to center.I am looking for a
wheel that is very hard to get moving in either direction from the
straight position.
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 17:43:48 GMT, Doug Appleyard
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>In article <[email hidden]>, > lito <[email hidden]> wrote: >> As the box says it�s very precise, easy clamping, and other >> features but that detent makes it a piece of CRAP. I would >> recommend you not to buy it. For me is imposible to go >> below 1.30�s in GPL with it. Just can�t make it go straight. >> > >I was wondering if it is possible to open up the >MS Precision Pro non-FF wheel, and disable the detent >somehow? Has anyone ever done this? My guess is >the spindle is D-shaped, and/or there is some sort >of plastic ring which locks it on the right and left >extremes, and "detents" it in the middle. Perhaps >the plastic ring could be modified or replaced? > > >-- >Doug Appleyard > >"Got us a Dirt Track Date, demolition derby figure 8" > -- Southern Culture On The Skids > > >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >Before you buy.On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:11:49 GMT, Doug Appleyard
<[email hidden]> thus spoke:
>So I'm not much of a hardware type. Maybe someone
>else will have better luck with this. I guess I will
>just use the wheel for a while and eventually forget
>about the detent; I'll just get used to it.
>
>If anyone else tries this please let me know how it goes.
Thx for being the guinea pig. Think I'll just leave my unit alone. :-)
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Nos
On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 21:31:58 GMT, [email hidden] (Skeeter) thus
spoke:
>By detent,do you mean a snappy return to center.I am looking for a
>wheel that is very hard to get moving in either direction from the
>straight position.
No, it's like a centre notch that you feel.
--
Nos
> I have the one without force feedback and it has a center detent. I wentto
> the store to try the one with force feedback and it seems to me it doesn't
> have the center detent.
Nope. It has around 100 detents all the way round!
MS
> To the above: More buttons? are you counting the extra *1* to turn FF onand
> off. .
not to mention the green flashing light....
MS
