Re: spirit of speed 1937

SoS was visually nice, but the physics were WAY too arcade-like -- the "physics" in the earlier Need For Speed games is actually better, for the most part. You might look around for a demo -- I have a copy of it, but I don't remember where I downloaded it (check www.3dfiles.com and www.hotgames.com). As for F12000, it was done by the same people who did SCGT -- VERY good F1 game, IMO. I have both it and GP3, and I would have to say that F12000 is more in-line with GPL-type physics, while GP3 just kind of leaves me cold. F12000 is hardware-intensive, so be prepared to make concessions like turning off graphics details (smoke, particles, and mirrors) to get a good framerate unless you have a 600+ MHz machine. It is very playable on my K6-2 400 system, but I've had to tweak the graphics a bit. It still looks VERY good, though, so I'm a pretty big fan of this one. As for the Eidos F1 game -- F1 World Grand Prix, by Lankhor -- I find the graphics to be EXCELLENT, and the gameplay reminds me a lot of GP2, believe it or not. The physics lean towards "arcade," but it's still a blast to, well, blast around the tracks, mainly because they're so gorgeous. I saw this for $19 today, which makes it a bargain worth considering, IMO. Hope this helps. -- JB In article <39a408f0$0$34964$[email hidden]>, Tim Ferrell <[email hidden]> wrote: > Is anyone familiar with this sim? I saw it on some time ago but have > been unable to find every since. Did I dream this od did (does) thissim > really exist? It is set during the halcyon days of the 1930's and has > tracks from throughout Europe. I believe Microsoft put it out buttheir

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> web site has no mention of it. > I would also like to know if the F1 2000 game is put out by > Eidos. I believe that they also put one for 1999 but I wasn't that > impressed with it. Is it from the same company or something completely > different? Is it worth taking a look at? > Thanks > tim > >

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Is anyone familiar with this sim? I saw it on some time ago but have been unable to find every since. Did I dream this od did (does) this sim really exist? It is set during the halcyon days of the 1930's and has tracks from throughout Europe. I believe Microsoft put it out but their web site has no mention of it. I would also like to know if the F1 2000 game is put out by Eidos. I believe that they also put one for 1999 but I wasn't that impressed with it. Is it from the same company or something completely different? Is it worth taking a look at? Thanks tim

IMHO:- FOR: The tracks are gorgeous! The cars look beautiful! AGAINST: The car physics are total crap! The AI is total crap! avoid like the plague! (unless you want to picnic and enjoy the scenery) Alan Tim Ferrell <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:39a408f0$0$34964$[email hidden]...

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> Is anyone familiar with this sim? I saw it on some time ago but have > been unable to find every since. Did I dream this od did (does) this sim > really exist? It is set during the halcyon days of the 1930's and has > tracks from throughout Europe. I believe Microsoft put it out but their > web site has no mention of it. > I would also like to know if the F1 2000 game is put out by > Eidos. I believe that they also put one for 1999 but I wasn't that > impressed with it. Is it from the same company or something completely > different? Is it worth taking a look at? > Thanks > tim >

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>I fired up the demo again tonight, and it was indeed "spin city," >Eldred. Plus, it uses info overlays rather than real cockpit displays, >and the in-cockpit view features a TINY steering wheel with no info. > >Still, the tracks are very nice to look at. The Lankhor folks need to >take what they've got and create a killer arcade-oriented game, or >something like NFSPU. They've got the basis for something fun, and >F1WGP might appeal to the casual F1 fan, but that's a crowded market >now with GP3 out.

Any chance of you coming up with a 'steering tweak' for that one, like the Indy game? :) Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +51.31 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <8o1kf6$n67$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] writes: >As for the Eidos F1 game -- F1 World Grand Prix, by Lankhor -- I find >the graphics to be EXCELLENT, and the gameplay reminds me a lot of GP2, >believe it or not. The physics lean towards "arcade," but it's still a >blast to, well, blast around the tracks, mainly because they're so >gorgeous. I saw this for $19 today, which makes it a bargain worth >considering, IMO. That's ANOTHER game where the demo turned me off. I can't remember which parts pissed me off the most for argument's sake, though. Is that the one where the car spins VERY easily? Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +51.31 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I fired up the demo again tonight, and it was indeed "spin city," Eldred. Plus, it uses info overlays rather than real cockpit displays, and the in-cockpit view features a TINY steering wheel with no info. Still, the tracks are very nice to look at. The Lankhor folks need to take what they've got and create a killer arcade-oriented game, or something like NFSPU. They've got the basis for something fun, and F1WGP might appeal to the casual F1 fan, but that's a crowded market now with GP3 out. -- JB In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > In article <8o1kf6$n67$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] writes: > > >As for the Eidos F1 game -- F1 World Grand Prix, by Lankhor -- I find > >the graphics to be EXCELLENT, and the gameplay reminds me a lot ofGP2, > >believe it or not. The physics lean towards "arcade," but it'sstill a > >blast to, well, blast around the tracks, mainly because they're so > >gorgeous. I saw this for $19 today, which makes it a bargain worth > >considering, IMO. > > That's ANOTHER game where the demo turned me off. I can't rememberwhich parts > pissed me off the most for argument's sake, though. Is that the onewhere the

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> car spins VERY easily? > > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +51.31 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then

beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Here's the SoS demo: http://www.3dfiles.com/games/spiritofspeed1937.shtml And here's the F1WGP demo: http://www.3dfiles.com/games/f1worldgrandprix99.shtml Enjoy! -- JB In article <39a408f0$0$34964$[email hidden]>, Tim Ferrell <[email hidden]> wrote: > Is anyone familiar with this sim? I saw it on some time ago but have > been unable to find every since. Did I dream this od did (does) thissim > really exist? It is set during the halcyon days of the 1930's and has > tracks from throughout Europe. I believe Microsoft put it out buttheir

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> web site has no mention of it. > I would also like to know if the F1 2000 game is put out by > Eidos. I believe that they also put one for 1999 but I wasn't that > impressed with it. Is it from the same company or something completely > different? Is it worth taking a look at? > Thanks > tim > >

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The biggest problem I had with the demo was the wildly non-linear steering (i.e., set-up for joystick even though steering wheel was selected). Is that fixed in the final version? Any other annoyances in the final? Where can one get this title now? How much? I figure it might have a couple of bucks worth of fun in it if it is not so horrid that can't even tolerate it after the first corner (the demo). Thanks for any info! Marc. "Alan Coates" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ydUo5.1967$[email hidden]...

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> IMHO:- > > FOR: > The tracks are gorgeous! > The cars look beautiful! > > AGAINST: > The car physics are total crap! > The AI is total crap! > > avoid like the plague! (unless you want to picnic and enjoy the scenery) > > Alan > > Tim Ferrell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:39a408f0$0$34964$[email hidden]... > > Is anyone familiar with this sim? I saw it on some time ago but have > > been unable to find every since. Did I dream this od did (does) this sim > > really exist? It is set during the halcyon days of the 1930's and has > > tracks from throughout Europe. I believe Microsoft put it out but their > > web site has no mention of it. > > I would also like to know if the F1 2000 game is put out by > > Eidos. I believe that they also put one for 1999 but I wasn't that > > impressed with it. Is it from the same company or something completely > > different? Is it worth taking a look at? > > Thanks > > tim > > > >

The demo is exactly that: A demonstration of the final game. The steering in the demo is the same as the final. SoS is being rereleased for the PC this September, but, AFAIK, only in the UK. You can pick up a copy for $14.00 (USD) plus modest (and quick) shipping from Software First. (www.softwarefirst.com) On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 14:39:45 GMT, "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>The biggest problem I had with the demo was the wildly non-linear steering >(i.e., set-up for joystick even though steering wheel was selected). Is >that fixed in the final version? Any other annoyances in the final? Where >can one get this title now? How much? > >I figure it might have a couple of bucks worth of fun in it if it is not so >horrid that can't even tolerate it after the first corner (the demo). > >Thanks for any info! > >Marc. > >"Alan Coates" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:ydUo5.1967$[email hidden]... >> IMHO:- >> >> FOR: >> The tracks are gorgeous! >> The cars look beautiful! >> >> AGAINST: >> The car physics are total crap! >> The AI is total crap! >> >> avoid like the plague! (unless you want to picnic and enjoy the scenery) >> >> Alan >> >> Tim Ferrell <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:39a408f0$0$34964$[email hidden]... >> > Is anyone familiar with this sim? I saw it on some time ago but have >> > been unable to find every since. Did I dream this od did (does) this sim >> > really exist? It is set during the halcyon days of the 1930's and has >> > tracks from throughout Europe. I believe Microsoft put it out but their >> > web site has no mention of it. >> > I would also like to know if the F1 2000 game is put out by >> > Eidos. I believe that they also put one for 1999 but I wasn't that >> > impressed with it. Is it from the same company or something completely >> > different? Is it worth taking a look at? >> > Thanks >> > tim >> > >> >> > >

Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

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>> >Still, the tracks are very nice to look at. The Lankhor folks need >to >> >take what they've got and create a killer arcade-oriented game, or >> >something like NFSPU. They've got the basis for something fun, and >> >F1WGP might appeal to the casual F1 fan, but that's a crowded market >> >now with GP3 out. >> >> Any chance of you coming up with a 'steering tweak' for that one, >like the Indy >> game? :) > >THAT would be one heckuva tweak! <G>

Well??? Stop playing Swamp Buggy Racing, and get to work!!! :) Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +51.31 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Thanks for the buying tip. Is the re-release going to be different in any way?? What is the idea behind it I wonder? Marc. <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> The demo is exactly that: A demonstration of the final game. The > steering in the demo is the same as the final. > > SoS is being rereleased for the PC this September, but, AFAIK, only in > the UK. You can pick up a copy for $14.00 (USD) plus modest (and > quick) shipping from Software First. (www.softwarefirst.com) > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 14:39:45 GMT, "Marc Collins" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >The biggest problem I had with the demo was the wildly non-linear

steering > >(i.e., set-up for joystick even though steering wheel was selected). Is > >that fixed in the final version? Any other annoyances in the final?Where > >can one get this title now? How much? > > > >I figure it might have a couple of bucks worth of fun in it if it is notso

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> >horrid that can't even tolerate it after the first corner (the demo). > > > >Thanks for any info! > > > >Marc. > > > >"Alan Coates" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:ydUo5.1967$[email hidden]... > >> IMHO:- > >> > >> FOR: > >> The tracks are gorgeous! > >> The cars look beautiful! > >> > >> AGAINST: > >> The car physics are total crap! > >> The AI is total crap! > >> > >> avoid like the plague! (unless you want to picnic and enjoy the

scenery)

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> >> > >> Alan > >> > >> Tim Ferrell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> news:39a408f0$0$34964$[email hidden]... > >> > Is anyone familiar with this sim? I saw it on some time ago but have > >> > been unable to find every since. Did I dream this od did (does) this

sim > >> > really exist? It is set during the halcyon days of the 1930's and has > >> > tracks from throughout Europe. I believe Microsoft put it out buttheir > >> > web site has no mention of it. > >> > I would also like to know if the F1 2000 game is put out by > >> > Eidos. I believe that they also put one for 1999 but I wasn't that > >> > impressed with it. Is it from the same company or somethingcompletely

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> >> > different? Is it worth taking a look at? > >> > Thanks > >> > tim > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

Probably no different. No more than the re-release of M25 Racer as London Racer. On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 01:32:10 GMT, "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Thanks for the buying tip. Is the re-release going to be different in any >way?? What is the idea behind it I wonder? > >Marc. > ><[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> The demo is exactly that: A demonstration of the final game. The >> steering in the demo is the same as the final. >> >> SoS is being rereleased for the PC this September, but, AFAIK, only in >> the UK. You can pick up a copy for $14.00 (USD) plus modest (and >> quick) shipping from Software First. (www.softwarefirst.com) >> >> On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 14:39:45 GMT, "Marc Collins" >> <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >The biggest problem I had with the demo was the wildly non-linear >steering >> >(i.e., set-up for joystick even though steering wheel was selected). Is >> >that fixed in the final version? Any other annoyances in the final? >Where >> >can one get this title now? How much? >> > >> >I figure it might have a couple of bucks worth of fun in it if it is not >so >> >horrid that can't even tolerate it after the first corner (the demo). >> > >> >Thanks for any info! >> > >> >Marc. >> > >> >"Alan Coates" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> >news:ydUo5.1967$[email hidden]... >> >> IMHO:- >> >> >> >> FOR: >> >> The tracks are gorgeous! >> >> The cars look beautiful! >> >> >> >> AGAINST: >> >> The car physics are total crap! >> >> The AI is total crap! >> >> >> >> avoid like the plague! (unless you want to picnic and enjoy the >scenery) >> >> >> >> Alan >> >> >> >> Tim Ferrell <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> >> news:39a408f0$0$34964$[email hidden]... >> >> > Is anyone familiar with this sim? I saw it on some time ago but have >> >> > been unable to find every since. Did I dream this od did (does) this >sim >> >> > really exist? It is set during the halcyon days of the 1930's and has >> >> > tracks from throughout Europe. I believe Microsoft put it out but >their >> >> > web site has no mention of it. >> >> > I would also like to know if the F1 2000 game is put out by >> >> > Eidos. I believe that they also put one for 1999 but I wasn't that >> >> > impressed with it. Is it from the same company or something >completely >> >> > different? Is it worth taking a look at? >> >> > Thanks >> >> > tim >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce.... > >

Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > In article <8o2cln$hr3$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] writes: > > >I fired up the demo again tonight, and it was indeed "spin city," > >Eldred. Plus, it uses info overlays rather than real cockpitdisplays, > >and the in-cockpit view features a TINY steering wheel with no info. > > > >Still, the tracks are very nice to look at. The Lankhor folks needto > >take what they've got and create a killer arcade-oriented game, or > >something like NFSPU. They've got the basis for something fun, and > >F1WGP might appeal to the casual F1 fan, but that's a crowded market > >now with GP3 out. > > Any chance of you coming up with a 'steering tweak' for that one,like the Indy > game? :) THAT would be one heckuva tweak! <G> -- JB Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.