I lost my mojo!!

Not really, I just lost my ICR2 cd, it's reeeeeeeeaally annoying... So I had to get the demo downloaded and play that, how sad is that? By the way, have any of you gpl racers tried ICR2 after you're 'capable' with gpl? You feel a lot more in ICR2 than you used to... Perhaps Papy was as good back then as they are now... but just working within what they had... It does make you wonder what papy would of given us by now had they the money backing, and the time and equipment.... -- Tim, [email hidden]|[email hidden] http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your league... http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on gpl...

From what a few of the more learned sim-racers have told...(in confidence) :) There is a fair amount of ICR2 in GPL. I won't even attempt to figure out what's what with that...but, I CAN say this: The KINK at Road America used to eat me alive. I couldn't get through that with the throttle flat to save my sole. But the other day I loaded up the new Reynard body and put some negative camber in the rear wheels and whoosh! Kept the pedal mashed all the way to Canada Corner.(don't ask my time...I suck even in ICR2) dave henrie "Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8o41j0$epm$[email hidden]...

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> Not really, I just lost my ICR2 cd, it's reeeeeeeeaally annoying... > > So I had to get the demo downloaded and play that, how sad is that? > > By the way, have any of you gpl racers tried ICR2 after you're 'capable' > with gpl? You feel a lot more in ICR2 than you used to... Perhaps Papy was > as good back then as they are now... but just working within what they > had... > > It does make you wonder what papy would of given us by now had they the > money backing, and the time and equipment.... > > -- > Tim, > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your

league... > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based ongpl... > >

AMEN, Tim -- I recently installed a Windows-compatible version of CART (ICR2) (now that I have a fast enough system to run the Windows version smoothly, I don't have to mess with the DOS world anymore). After turning a few laps, it surprised me how good ICR2 still felt. There is a DEFINITE lineage between the ICR2 engine and the GPL engine -- I hope that Crammond's coup with GP2.5 gives Papy some ideas . . . a D3D patch would make CART Racing (ICR2) VERY re-marketable, I would think. Plus, since Papy has some relationship with IMS through the N3 licensing, maybe they could produce a combined IRL/CART sim (THAT may be the closest we get to "reunification" in the next year or so, but it's a start!). <G> If any of you haven't tried ICR2 lately, give it a shot. It's a VERY pleasant blast from the past. -- JB In article <8o41j0$epm$[email hidden]>, "Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Not really, I just lost my ICR2 cd, it's reeeeeeeeaally annoying... > > So I had to get the demo downloaded and play that, how sad is that? > > By the way, have any of you gpl racers tried ICR2 afteryou're 'capable' > with gpl? You feel a lot more in ICR2 than you used to... PerhapsPapy was > as good back then as they are now... but just working within what they > had... > > It does make you wonder what papy would of given us by now had theythe > money backing, and the time and equipment.... > > -- > Tim, > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for yourleague... > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based ongpl... > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

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> >Not really, I just lost my ICR2 cd, it's reeeeeeeeaally annoying... > >So I had to get the demo downloaded and play that, how sad is that? > >By the way, have any of you gpl racers tried ICR2 after you're 'capable' >with gpl? You feel a lot more in ICR2 than you used to... Perhaps Papy was >as good back then as they are now... but just working within what they >had... > >It does make you wonder what papy would of given us by now had they the >money backing, and the time and equipment.... > >-- >Tim,

I love GPL and still race ICR2 in offline leagues. I just won a race at Gateway about a month ago now and finished second in the championship. Yes, I feel the car more. And I even throttle steer it through some of the turns. :) I've found you can control how the car reacts heading through the banked Outer Loop turn at Watkins Glen after the Inner Loop by playing with the gas and the brake. Oh yeah, and don't forget to check out http://members.aol.com/sctracks/coral when you find you ICR2 disk Tim. :) ----------------------------------------- Dan Belcher Team Racing Unlimited http://simcrash.00game.com

FYI, Tim -- I have 2 spare ICR2 Rendition CDs floating around. If you still have a Rendition card installed, let me know and I'll send one your way. -- JB In article <8o41j0$epm$[email hidden]>, "Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Not really, I just lost my ICR2 cd, it's reeeeeeeeaally annoying... > > So I had to get the demo downloaded and play that, how sad is that? > > By the way, have any of you gpl racers tried ICR2 afteryou're 'capable' > with gpl? You feel a lot more in ICR2 than you used to... PerhapsPapy was > as good back then as they are now... but just working within what they > had... > > It does make you wonder what papy would of given us by now had theythe > money backing, and the time and equipment.... > > -- > Tim, > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for yourleague... > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based ongpl... > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Man, I loved that sim. Still have the windows version in it's original box sitting on my bookshelf. I really should load that puppy back up and give it a spin, too bad can't run the 3d accellerated version now, as my rendition card is long gone. " Hi, this is Paul Page, this is Indy Car Racing II"" wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Great sim! -- Don Burnette Dburn in N3 and Legends ICQ# 74084566 "Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8o41j0$epm$[email hidden]... > Not really, I just lost my ICR2 cd, it's reeeeeeeeaally annoying... > > So I had to get the demo downloaded and play that, how sad is that? > > By the way, have any of you gpl racers tried ICR2 after you're 'capable' > with gpl? You feel a lot more in ICR2 than you used to... Perhaps Papy was > as good back then as they are now... but just working within what they > had... > > It does make you wonder what papy would of given us by now had they the > money backing, and the time and equipment.... > > -- > Tim, > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your league... > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on gpl... > >

"Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote > By the way, have any of you gpl racers tried ICR2 after you're 'capable' > with gpl? You feel a lot more in ICR2 than you used to... Perhaps Papy was > as good back then as they are now... but just working within what they > had... Very nice point Tim. Each time I run Icr2, it grows on me more and more. Even with all the limitations it has, it has aged very well. The car "feeling" in Icr2 is very similar to GPL. Try to hotlap at Mid-Ohio and push the car over it's limit at the keyhole corner (T2). I drool thinking of how this corner would be in a new version using the new game engine by Papyrus. They were indeed as good as they are now. Some people complained about the icy feeling, but that's what I actually love more to it. There ain't no wheel spin or locked brakes, so such feeling was the best alternative to model the feeling of those cars. How many time do you counter-steer exiting slow corners? Icr2 like GPL is all about keeping the most power exiting corners. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.