You sound like an eye-candy kind of guy -- how would you rate NFS3, by
chance?
-- JB
In article <8o3mm7$34q$[email hidden]>,
"Lars Birkemose" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
In article <8o463g$2v4$[email hidden]>,
"9Wright7" <[email hidden]> wrote:
know
> enough to comment.
Of course it's NOT a full-blown arcade sim -- there's no chase view!
Otherwise, though . . .
;-)
-- JB
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Quoted text (17 lines)
> > TToommLL <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Lars Birkemose wrote; > > >Just tried GP3 out..... > > > > > >This is one piece of incredible software... > > > > > >Works right out of the box... > > > > If you like arcade games with throttle and brake > > on the same axis. But if you want throttle and brake > > on separate axis, you know, like a real car, > > it does NOT work right out of the box. In fact, > > it doesn't work at all. > > If you think Gp3 is a fully blown arcade sim than you obviously don'tIn article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] (TToommLL) wrote:
Agreed!
> But it's no GPL...
Okay, so it's at least GPL's kid brother -- or maybe GPL with WINGS,
perhaps? <G>
-- JB
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Quoted text (7 lines)
> Lars Birkemose wrote; > >Just tried GP3 out..... > > But still, I find F1 2000 to be the most fascinating > and gratifying physics-hobby-shop, since it is > the state of the art for modern F1 physics engine, > in terms of potential.Lars Birkemose wrote;
>Just tried GP3 out.....
>
>This is one piece of incredible software...
>
>Works right out of the box...
If you like arcade games with throttle and brake
on the same axis. But if you want throttle and brake
on separate axis, you know, like a real car,
it does NOT work right out of the box. In fact,
it doesn't work at all.
>Includes graphics that makes you literally drop your jaw.... (the rain
>thing)
Yeah, it's a nice weather simulator.
>Makes F1-2000 looks like it was made 5 years back....
You mean Monza had fencing only 5 years ago?
Was fencing outlawed in Italy in 1998?
Why did they bring it back for 2000?
The tires in GP3 look like they've been
sitting around for about 5 years, or 50.
If you really want out of the box fun and eye candy,
you gotta check out the F1WGP demo, it blows
F12K and GP3 away, in that respect. It even
supports separate brake and throttle! It allows
you to adjust the fuel mixture lean or richer
while driving. Lots of increadible features and
great framerate. Mindblowing replay system.
INSTANT race restart. I just tried it yesterday,
very addictive.
But still, I find F1 2000 to be the most fascinating
and gratifying physics-hobby-shop, since it is
the state of the art for modern F1 physics engine,
in terms of potential.
But it's no GPL...
(That phrase has been around long enough to be in
the public domain, right? I can use it? )
>
>Bimo
>
Tom
you'll never get away with this :o)
I agree with everything you said in this post (except the bit about
F12000, which I've played).
Lars Birkemose wrote:
Quoted text (10 lines)
> Just tried GP3 out..... > > This is one piece of incredible software... > > Works right out of the box... > Includes graphics that makes you literally drop your jaw.... (the rain > thing) > Makes F1-2000 looks like it was made 5 years back.... > > BimoJust tried GP3 out.....
This is one piece of incredible software...
Works right out of the box...
Includes graphics that makes you literally drop your jaw.... (the rain
thing)
Makes F1-2000 looks like it was made 5 years back....
Bimo
Quoted text (7 lines)
> > But it's no GPL... > (That phrase has been around long enough to be in > the public domain, right? I can use it? ) > > > > >Bimo
TToommLL <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
If you think Gp3 is a fully blown arcade sim than you obviously don't know
enough to comment.
Quoted text (12 lines)
> Lars Birkemose wrote; > >Just tried GP3 out..... > > > >This is one piece of incredible software... > > > >Works right out of the box... > > If you like arcade games with throttle and brake > on the same axis. But if you want throttle and brake > on separate axis, you know, like a real car, > it does NOT work right out of the box. In fact, > it doesn't work at all.Bzzzzt.. Wrong answer, but please play again later.
--
Ian P
<email invalid due to spam>
TToommLL <[email hidden]> wrote
. But if you want throttle and brake
> on separate axis, you know, like a real car,
> it does NOT work right out of the box. In fact,
> it doesn't work at all.
>
Why not? -It's true.
It works right out of the box (presuming you got the correct hardware).
My jaw dropped when I saw the graphics... I hadn't seen such pixels since I
saw Doom in 320x200 on a 21" monitor.
Makes F1 2000 look 5 years old??... Heck, it even makes it look like the
last 4 years never happened.
Then again... maybe I shouldn't discourage the guy. -I wouldn't want to run
into him on-track.
Jan.
=---
Rob Swindells wrote...
> you'll never get away with this :o)
>
> I agree with everything you said in this post (except the bit about
> F12000, which I've played).
>
> <snip>
Jo Helsen <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
since
> >I
> >> saw Doom in 320x200 on a 21" monitor.
> >>
> >
> >You're spending too much time off the track... the non-filtered barriers
> >were purposely included by Crammond to encourage you to improve yourdriving
> >:-)
> >
> >I think it looks bloody brilliant on even my modest hardware, but we'vebeen
> >over this before.
> >
> >Funny thing is, the other day I was driving along the motorway betweenBern
> >and Z�rich and I started thinking about how the tree-lined horizon of the
> >local hills and mountains looked. "Fractal" was the word which came intomy
For all the claims that GP3 is really GP2.5, I would expect it to be utter
rubbish. What is interesting is to play GP3 for a while, then re-load GP2
in its out of the box form. No comparison. I have certainly gotten my 60
SFr worth already.
Stephen
Quoted text (8 lines)
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 09:19:49 +0200, "Stephen Ferguson" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >Jan Verschueren <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> > >> My jaw dropped when I saw the graphics... I hadn't seen such pixelsQuoted text (9 lines)
> >mind. I won't argue the point, but to my eye the unfiltered backdrops of > >GP3 look much more true to life than the filtered, > >man-I-have-to-stop-buying-cheap-grass backdrops of other racing games. > > Hehe.... Almost the same happens to me. When I'm driving home I'm > constantly looking at the trees, the clouds and realworld > "backgrounds" and comparing them to GP3. GP3 often wins <G> > > JoHHahaha, you know how to find the soft spots, eh? ;-)
Agreed, the F10 is one bad idea (the only one, I think) in GPL. They didn't
think about the fact that you would be faster using this view.
But they paid attention to other competitive issues, like cheating with
tracks and engine power etc. And the West (WSC) brothers in fact got a
valuable pointer in this direction (competetion integrity checking) in that
online chat that was done some time ago (can't remember the URL, but the
chat was very useful and interesting, the West guys really seem to be
burning fiercly for the right values. :-).
---Asgeir---
[email hidden] wrote:
Quoted text (11 lines)
> > > Of course it's NOT a full-blown arcade sim -- there's no chase view! > Otherwise, though . . . > > ;-) > > -- JB > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.
Jan Verschueren <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
>
> My jaw dropped when I saw the graphics... I hadn't seen such pixels sinceI
> saw Doom in 320x200 on a 21" monitor.
>
You're spending too much time off the track... the non-filtered barriers
were purposely included by Crammond to encourage you to improve your driving
:-)
I think it looks bloody brilliant on even my modest hardware, but we've been
over this before.
Funny thing is, the other day I was driving along the motorway between Bern
and Z�rich and I started thinking about how the tree-lined horizon of the
local hills and mountains looked. "Fractal" was the word which came into my
mind. I won't argue the point, but to my eye the unfiltered backdrops of
GP3 look much more true to life than the filtered,
man-I-have-to-stop-buying-cheap-grass backdrops of other racing games.
Stephen
"Lars Birkemose" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:8o3mm7$34q$[email hidden]...
> Just tried GP3 out.....
> Makes F1-2000 looks like it was made 5 years back....
This is a truly enlightening statement. How long ago was GP2
made????
Wow.
--
[email hidden]
On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 09:19:49 +0200, "Stephen Ferguson"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
Hehe.... Almost the same happens to me. When I'm driving home I'm
constantly looking at the trees, the clouds and realworld
"backgrounds" and comparing them to GP3. GP3 often wins <G>
JoH
Quoted text (22 lines)
> >Jan Verschueren <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> >> My jaw dropped when I saw the graphics... I hadn't seen such pixels since >I >> saw Doom in 320x200 on a 21" monitor. >> > >You're spending too much time off the track... the non-filtered barriers >were purposely included by Crammond to encourage you to improve your driving >:-) > >I think it looks bloody brilliant on even my modest hardware, but we've been >over this before. > >Funny thing is, the other day I was driving along the motorway between Bern >and Z�rich and I started thinking about how the tree-lined horizon of the >local hills and mountains looked. "Fractal" was the word which came into my >mind. I won't argue the point, but to my eye the unfiltered backdrops of >GP3 look much more true to life than the filtered, >man-I-have-to-stop-buying-cheap-grass backdrops of other racing games.I personally disagree.
I just bought GP3 too. Oh my god! IMO this is like punishent of something...
total carbage. I will never play this shit again :(
Even FF forces are totally screwed and works just the opposite as they
should(forces the wrong direction) :((((((
I knew that it wasn't as good as expected, but this is so shit that it makes
me wanna cry.... :((((((
I will definately stick with GPL, it's like in another planet compared to
this�!#�&�/.... I think I'll hammer this CD to pieces today or
maybe I just throw someone with it :(((((
I have played Crammonds sims since C64 and revs+ for example stunt car
racer,f1gp,gp2, but oh my god, please someone come and hit me, so that I'd
wake up from this nightmare!!! :((((
"Lars Birkemose" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:8o3mm7$34q$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (13 lines)
> Just tried GP3 out..... > > This is one piece of incredible software... > > Works right out of the box... > Includes graphics that makes you literally drop your jaw.... (the rain > thing) > Makes F1-2000 looks like it was made 5 years back.... > > Bimo > > >Marko Viitanen wrote:
> total carbage.
"Carbage"! I like it! I smell a new game title...
BB


































