Re: Online Racers...Cable problems...

In article <TFjp5.868$%[email hidden]>, "David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>Hi all...This post is a last ditch effort in an attempt to race online (GPL) >with my cable modem. I awaited the arrival of cable into my area for a long >time and now the racing (VROC) stinks while using the cable connection. My >dial up was and still is rock solid. Way better for me than the cable >hookup. > >Pings on paper (race list and path inspection) look great with no packet >loss. Yet once in a race a seem to get big spikes of latency which shoot the >3 bars to the roof. It is all downhill once that starts. I have tried >registry tweaks, messing with the core.ini, calling the cable company (which >btw it seems as long as I can surf and email everything to them is fine) >nothing has seemed to work. I have a custom made gaming rig from Falcon NW >so the PC is not the problem. I even switched network cards thinking one >would perform better than another. > >I hope someone out there can help me. Once I am in a race cars blink and >disappear, clock smashes, the whole kitten caboodle. Hopefully someone has >had a similar experience and can straighten this out for me. > >Dave C

Did you load the discofix patch? Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +51.31 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Hi David, If your joining via VROC it should make these changes for you, but try changing them manually in your core.ini file... [ Communications ] alternate_ip_addr_lookup = 1 net_lan_client_send_every = 3 ; Client packet freq on LAN net_lan_client_send_size = 84 ; Client packet size on LAN net_lan_server_send_every = 3 ; Server packet freq on LAN net_lan_server_send_size = 84 ; Server packet size on LAN ; net_use_mdm_bandwidth_for_tcp_ip = 0 ; TCP/IP connections use modem bandwidth? ^^^ THIS LINE IS COMMENTED OUT TO MAKE BANDWIDTH ON LAN SAME AS MODEM. Hope that helps, sorry for the caps, Jason. David Ciemny wrote:

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> Hi all...This post is a last ditch effort in an attempt to race online (GPL) > with my cable modem. I awaited the arrival of cable into my area for a long > time and now the racing (VROC) stinks while using the cable connection. My > dial up was and still is rock solid. Way better for me than the cable > hookup. > > Pings on paper (race list and path inspection) look great with no packet > loss. Yet once in a race a seem to get big spikes of latency which shoot the > 3 bars to the roof. It is all downhill once that starts. I have tried > registry tweaks, messing with the core.ini, calling the cable company (which > btw it seems as long as I can surf and email everything to them is fine) > nothing has seemed to work. I have a custom made gaming rig from Falcon NW > so the PC is not the problem. I even switched network cards thinking one > would perform better than another. > > I hope someone out there can help me. Once I am in a race cars blink and > disappear, clock smashes, the whole kitten caboodle. Hopefully someone has > had a similar experience and can straighten this out for me. > > Dave C

-- Jason Monds http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (N3, GPL, Fun Run Sims) http://www.racersdomain.com - Race hosting. (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

Opps, I notice a piece of missing information: If your setting LAN to use MDM bandwidth and MDM is set wrong you'll still be having problems. Just make sure the "net_lan.." and "net_mdm..." setting are all set to 3/84. Jason. Jason Monds wrote:

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> Hi David, > > If your joining via VROC it should make these changes for you, but try changing > them manually in your core.ini file... > > [ Communications ] > > alternate_ip_addr_lookup = 1 > > net_lan_client_send_every = 3 ; Client packet freq on LAN > net_lan_client_send_size = 84 ; Client packet size on LAN > net_lan_server_send_every = 3 ; Server packet freq on LAN > net_lan_server_send_size = 84 ; Server packet size on LAN > > ; net_use_mdm_bandwidth_for_tcp_ip = 0 ; TCP/IP connections use modem > bandwidth? > ^^^ THIS LINE IS COMMENTED OUT TO MAKE BANDWIDTH > ON LAN SAME AS MODEM. > > Hope that helps, sorry for the caps, > Jason. > > David Ciemny wrote: > > > Hi all...This post is a last ditch effort in an attempt to race online (GPL) > > with my cable modem. I awaited the arrival of cable into my area for a long > > time and now the racing (VROC) stinks while using the cable connection. My > > dial up was and still is rock solid. Way better for me than the cable > > hookup. > > > > Pings on paper (race list and path inspection) look great with no packet > > loss. Yet once in a race a seem to get big spikes of latency which shoot the > > 3 bars to the roof. It is all downhill once that starts. I have tried > > registry tweaks, messing with the core.ini, calling the cable company (which > > btw it seems as long as I can surf and email everything to them is fine) > > nothing has seemed to work. I have a custom made gaming rig from Falcon NW > > so the PC is not the problem. I even switched network cards thinking one > > would perform better than another. > > > > I hope someone out there can help me. Once I am in a race cars blink and > > disappear, clock smashes, the whole kitten caboodle. Hopefully someone has > > had a similar experience and can straighten this out for me. > > > > Dave C > > -- > Jason Monds > http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (N3, GPL, Fun Run Sims) > http://www.racersdomain.com - Race hosting. > (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

-- Jason Monds http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (N3, GPL, Fun Run Sims) http://www.racersdomain.com - Race hosting. (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

Hi all...This post is a last ditch effort in an attempt to race online (GPL) with my cable modem. I awaited the arrival of cable into my area for a long time and now the racing (VROC) stinks while using the cable connection. My dial up was and still is rock solid. Way better for me than the cable hookup. Pings on paper (race list and path inspection) look great with no packet loss. Yet once in a race a seem to get big spikes of latency which shoot the 3 bars to the roof. It is all downhill once that starts. I have tried registry tweaks, messing with the core.ini, calling the cable company (which btw it seems as long as I can surf and email everything to them is fine) nothing has seemed to work. I have a custom made gaming rig from Falcon NW so the PC is not the problem. I even switched network cards thinking one would perform better than another. I hope someone out there can help me. Once I am in a race cars blink and disappear, clock smashes, the whole kitten caboodle. Hopefully someone has had a similar experience and can straighten this out for me. Dave C

On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 01:08:03 GMT, "David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> thus spoke:

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>I hope someone out there can help me. Once I am in a race cars blink and >disappear, clock smashes, the whole kitten caboodle. Hopefully someone has >had a similar experience and can straighten this out for me. > >Dave C > >

I have DSL and get the same problem in online games. Everything looks good and then I start getting drop outs. I got better online play with a 56K modem. I tried this program called Internet Turbo that adjusts your settings etc., but it's still crap. -- Nos

Yes Eldred...It made no difference. DC EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <TFjp5.868$%[email hidden]>, "David Ciemny" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Hi all...This post is a last ditch effort in an attempt to race online(GPL) > >with my cable modem. I awaited the arrival of cable into my area for along > >time and now the racing (VROC) stinks while using the cable connection.My > >dial up was and still is rock solid. Way better for me than the cable > >hookup. > > > >Pings on paper (race list and path inspection) look great with no packet > >loss. Yet once in a race a seem to get big spikes of latency which shootthe > >3 bars to the roof. It is all downhill once that starts. I have tried > >registry tweaks, messing with the core.ini, calling the cable company(which > >btw it seems as long as I can surf and email everything to them is fine) > >nothing has seemed to work. I have a custom made gaming rig from FalconNW > >so the PC is not the problem. I even switched network cards thinking one > >would perform better than another. > > > >I hope someone out there can help me. Once I am in a race cars blink and > >disappear, clock smashes, the whole kitten caboodle. Hopefully someonehas

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> >had a similar experience and can straighten this out for me. > > > >Dave C > > Did you load the discofix patch? > > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +51.31 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <zbEp5.1015$%[email hidden]>, "David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> writes: >Yes Eldred...It made no difference. > Wow, that sucks. Does it happen on EVERY race you connect to, or just certain servers? Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +51.31 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I thought it might have been just certain servers because there are a few new ones around VROC but in yours and Guy Wilson's for example the same thing happens. Seems like big latency spikes that put the bars to the ceiling. If there was a way to control the "flow" so to speak...oh well knock on wood my dial up is solid. Problem with cable is that it gets you used to surfing and downloading fast. DC EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <zbEp5.1015$%[email hidden]>, "David Ciemny" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Yes Eldred...It made no difference. > > > > Wow, that sucks. Does it happen on EVERY race you connect to, or just

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> servers? > > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +51.31 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <jZMp5.1043$%[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > I thought it might have been just certain servers because there are a few > new ones around VROC but in yours and Guy Wilson's for example the same > thing happens. Seems like big latency spikes that put the bars to the > ceiling. If there was a way to control the "flow" so to speak...oh well > knock on wood my dial up is solid. Problem with cable is that it gets you > used to surfing and downloading fast. The reality is that your dial-up ISP has a better route to most of the better servers than your cable ISP does. Case in point - when I lived in san diego, @Home gave me 40-75ms pings to Guy's server. Now I live in san antonio and am using roadrunner, and my pings have almost tripled to Guy's server. Last notable point - dial-up connections have historically made better racing connections than cable or DSL. -- ========================================================= Redneck Techno-Biker (Zerex12) http://www.paddedwall.org/john Barbarian Diecast Collector (420+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast DeMONS Scheduler for N3 and NL http://www.paddedwall.org/demons If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <jZMp5.1043$%[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > I thought it might have been just certain servers because there are afew > > new ones around VROC but in yours and Guy Wilson's for example the same > > thing happens. Seems like big latency spikes that put the bars to the > > ceiling. If there was a way to control the "flow" so to speak...oh well > > knock on wood my dial up is solid. Problem with cable is that it getsyou

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> > used to surfing and downloading fast. > > The reality is that your dial-up ISP has a better route to most of the > better servers than your cable ISP does. Case in point - when I lived in > san diego, @Home gave me 40-75ms pings to Guy's server. Now I live in san > antonio and am using roadrunner, and my pings have almost tripled to > Guy's server.

Not necessarily. Pings to servers through my cable are always better than via my ISDN provider. The cable technology is simply faster on the local line, and both providers have good backbone connections. The problem reported is about sudden latency spikes. I experience the same, in my case it is caused by the cable modem loosing sync. The sync is restored in 1-3 secs, and no packets are lost. That is why online racing is so much affected while in browsing, e-mail and ftp the effect is hardly noticeable. I suspect that in my case the latency spikes have to do with the Lancity modems used by the cable co, in combination with the quality of the lines and connected devices like old tv's. > Last notable point - dial-up connections have historically made better > racing connections than cable or DSL. Well, if you follow all the tips to recuce the line speed etc. dialup is stable now yes, the technology is mature. Cable and DSL are still relatively "young and unexperienced" ;-) Bart Westra

Thanks Eldred...I am happily back to dial up. Raced for 8 hours sunday :o) DC EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <jZMp5.1043$%[email hidden]>, "David Ciemny" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >I thought it might have been just certain servers because there are a few > >new ones around VROC but in yours and Guy Wilson's for example the same > >thing happens. Seems like big latency spikes that put the bars to the > >ceiling. If there was a way to control the "flow" so to speak...oh well > >knock on wood my dial up is solid. Problem with cable is that it gets you > >used to surfing and downloading fast. > > > > Sorry, I'm out of ideas. I won't have a cable modem for a WHILE... > > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +51.31 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <jZMp5.1043$%[email hidden]>, "David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>I thought it might have been just certain servers because there are a few >new ones around VROC but in yours and Guy Wilson's for example the same >thing happens. Seems like big latency spikes that put the bars to the >ceiling. If there was a way to control the "flow" so to speak...oh well >knock on wood my dial up is solid. Problem with cable is that it gets you >used to surfing and downloading fast. >

Sorry, I'm out of ideas. I won't have a cable modem for a WHILE... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +51.31 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.