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OT - F1 Qualify Session(spoiler for those not seen it yet!)

13 posts by 7 people · 26 Aug 2000 13:37 UTC - 29 Aug 2000

Freeburn 26 Aug 2000 13:37 UTC#237237
What a Qual Session! And detractors from F1 say it's boring! Button, Beating M. Schumacher in Qualifying! (3rd Place!) Go Button Go!!! Freeburn.
David Masten 26 Aug 2000 14:09 UTC#237115
In article <CSOp5.401$[email hidden]>, Freeburn <alan.daly@NOSPAM!ntlworld.com> wrote: >What a Qual Session! >And detractors from F1 say it's boring! They generally aren't referring to qualifying. I wouldn't generally call the qualifying boring. In order, I'd rate the most interesting/exciting parts of F1 to be: 1) the race start 2) the first turn 3) the qualifying 4) The progression of the points standings through the season 5) the pitting (and I consider this a shame that this is the most exciting part of a race after the first 30 seconds). 6) the cars themselves (sometimes I might rate this is a lot higher). Their sound is almost worth the price of admission. 7) the pit-babes 8) all the stupid rumors, political bickering, import placed on nonsense such as whether a driver has lost his form just because he might have had back-to-back races where his car broke down or got shunted, import placed on all things trivial in the lives of spoiled drivers. Seriously rating drivers (and then fighting over endlessly) where clearly what is more important is the car and team they work for...well, Schumacher excepted. 9) The rest of the race (well down from most of the above) FWIW, I would say the qualifying today was interesting. And I think they should make that Steve Matchett guy a regular in the booth.
Freeburn 26 Aug 2000 15:34 UTC#237122
> FWIW, I would say the qualifying today was interesting. And I think they > should make that Steve Matchett guy a regular in the booth. I agree, Interesting comments about Eau Rouge too. General consensus seemed to me that Flat out thru Eau Rouge is the norm for the best drivers, In '99 JV lost it because he was pushing the car betond the envelope but Zonta lost it there because of set-up probs. Freeburn
lito 26 Aug 2000 15:42 UTC#237051
I must say I agree almost 100% with "masten", the most boring thing is an already started F1 race. Like the last one, in Hungary, it�s a train, a very fast one, but it�s a train, no overtaking. What I do is wake up in the morning see about 10-15min after the start and go to bed again, because if nobody blows, that order is final. If they only had those yellow flags that CART has. lito Caracas, Venezuela * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping. Smart is Beautiful
Barton Brown 26 Aug 2000 16:02 UTC#237076
Matchett was a mechanic for Benetton, and his book describing a year on the road with the team, "Life In the Fast Lane," is an excellent read. Read this, and then read Alf Francis and Peter Lewis'"Alf Francis: Racing Mechanic" -- what an incredible contrast! Francis was chief mechanic for H.W.M., Peter Whitehead, Rob Walker, and -- most famously -- Stirling Moss, working from the late '40s to the early '60s (the book was written in 1957). The stuff Francis and his colleagues did to get the cars to the starting line, in an era before private jets (or even comfortable motorhomes), is quite often hairier than the racing itself! BB [email hidden] wrote: > FWIW, I would say the qualifying today was interesting. And I think they > should make that Steve Matchett guy a regular in the booth.
Barton Brown 26 Aug 2000 16:56 UTC#236898
lito wrote: > > I must say I agree almost 100% with "masten", the most boring thing is an already started F1 race... Ain't it the truth: here on the right coast of the Yew Ess Aye, I get up at 7am (an ungodly hour!) to watch F1 (so I can only imagine what a pain it is in California and Latin America!), and catch the start with two cups of coffee, and then fall asleep ten laps into it. I say put 'em on 6" bias-ply tires and no wings! BB
Freeburn 26 Aug 2000 16:58 UTC#237075
No Way! Cautions for the sake of hampering races to make them more interesting?, shit, why not just have a rule that says the race leader has to slow down and let the others catch up, LOL. 'Some' races can become a precession, I agree, (Hungary is a good example) but look at Hock this year, awesome race, but the 'precessions' are usually after the top couple of teams get a clear technological advantage (active susp anyone?) or when teams have a deveoped a new car that needs a season to 'settle'. The races are not always gripping from start - finish, but the races that are, are the pinnicle of racing for me, all IMHO of course. Freeburn. lito wrote:
Quoted text (13 lines)> > I must say I agree almost 100% with "masten", the most > boring thing is an already started F1 race. Like the last > one, in Hungary, it�s a train, a very fast one, but it�s a > train, no overtaking. What I do is wake up in the morning > see about 10-15min after the start and go to bed again, > because if nobody blows, that order is final. If they only > had those yellow flags that CART has. > > lito > Caracas, Venezuela > > * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping. Smart is Beautiful
lito 26 Aug 2000 20:04 UTC#236863
> No Way! Cautions for the sake of hampering races to > make them more > interesting?, shit, why not just have a rule that says > the race leader > has to slow down and let the others catch up, LOL. You are right, from that point of view. The thing is that I�m somehow sick that the world top of motorsport is sooo boring. And other categories that are by far more competitive doesn�t get the support they deserve. Im in someway getting CART-holic but hey, who many times have you seen a race like Hock in F1, once in 5 seasons?. Barrichello made a hell of a job, this was a race to remember. For us in latin-america and race fans all over the world that almost cried out senna�s death, to see this guy win was awesome. But on the other hand you have CART, as a far more competitive series, with 9 winners in 14 races, harder in circuits, setups and schedule are treated as F1 wannabees (I don�t if it correctly written). I think that this year Michigan race, is tape I�m going to keep forever. This was a race to remember. This race and the Zanardi pass on Herta at the corkscrew in Laguna in 96 are the most incredible things I�ve seen in Motosport TV. One way or another, long live racing, doesn�t matter if it is a woodbox with wheels, if you could beat somebody with it, it�s great lito Caracas, Venezuela [email hidden] http://www.clubcopa.com Home of solo racing in Venezuela * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping. Smart is Beautiful
Steven Dickson 26 Aug 2000 20:26 UTC#236880
Part of the problem is that the some of the best racing takes place in the middle of the field, where it's not unusual to have four or five cars jockeying for position. Unfortunately, these mid-field battles are hardly ever given any TV coverage, nor mentioned by the commentators. S.
Bendito 27 Aug 2000#236678
Freeburn wrote in message ... [snipped] Thank you for putting "OT" and "spoiler" in your subject header. Such civilised behaviour is to be praised. May your day bring great happiness. :) Bendito;
David Ewing 28 Aug 2000#236114
Barton Brown wrote: > Matchett was a mechanic for Benetton, and his book describing a year on > the road with the team, "Life In the Fast Lane," is an excellent read. He also wrote "The Mechanic's Tale: Life in the Pitlanes of Formula One", which I just started reading this weekend. I agree that Matchett is an excellent commentator. He brings a level of technical knowledge that you just don't hear from any of the other announcers. He also was on Speedvision's Canadian GP telecast earlier this year. Dave Ewing -- ***************************************************** David A. Ewing Xilinx Boulder [email hidden] *****************************************************
Barton Brown 28 Aug 2000 23:57 UTC#236060
David Ewing wrote: > > [Matchett] also wrote "The Mechanic's Tale: Life in the Pitlanes of Formula One", > which I just started reading this weekend. Gotta get it. Did he stay with Benetton or wrench for somebody else? I hope CapCities/ABC/SPVN give him a full-time job. BB
David Ewing 29 Aug 2000#235851
Barton Brown wrote: > David Ewing wrote: > > > > [Matchett] also wrote "The Mechanic's Tale: Life in the Pitlanes of Formula One", > > which I just started reading this weekend. > > Gotta get it. Did he stay with Benetton or wrench for somebody else? Well, I'm only a couple of chapters into the book (he's just started at Benetton), but based on the jacket blurb and everything else I've read/heard, Benetton appears to have been his only F1 gig. > I hope CapCities/ABC/SPVN give him a full-time job. Amen. Dave Ewing -- ***************************************************** David A. Ewing Xilinx Boulder [email hidden] *****************************************************

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