who here was part of Hawaii?

Hard to believe its been 10 years since my first online racing experience. I was wondering how many old-timers that still follow this group were testers on Hawaii? A show of hands and handles. I went by MR.V Tim yuhasz

Waves Hand... I don't remember a lot about how the service worked, but I do remember the $300 Phone Bills :) -Larry "Tim Y" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Bt%Xd.631435$Xk.400472@pd7tw3no...

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> Hard to believe its been 10 years since my first online racing > experience. I was wondering how many old-timers that still follow > this group were testers on Hawaii? A show of hands and handles. > I went by MR.V > > Tim yuhasz > >

>"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote > I don't remember a lot about how the service worked, but I do remember the > $300 Phone Bills :) I remember fondly somebody, who was lucky to be in the local area nearby the Papy design group, therefore being able to race all day without a large phone bill. I think he ended up helping them testing. Anyway, with today's phone plans it would surely had been different. You can get specific numbers for unlimited hours, at charges much less than the exhorbitants bills (in the thousands per month) some people had. Nowhere except local LANs have the quality of racing been equal to it. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

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> Waves Hand... > > I don't remember a lot about how the service worked, but I do remember the > $300 Phone Bills :) > > -Larry > > "Tim Y" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Bt%Xd.631435$Xk.400472@pd7tw3no... >> Hard to believe its been 10 years since my first online racing >> experience. I was wondering how many old-timers that still follow >> this group were testers on Hawaii? A show of hands and handles. >> I went by MR.V >> >> Tim yuhasz >> >>

I think I started on Hawaii in Mar-Apr 96' as naman. Are you talking about the beta of the beta?. Heh, $300 was a baby crack habit ;) I doubled that every month for 5-6 months. Nearly $4k in all but dam if it wasnt worth every penny. Online racing has never been the same imo. I was only the un-touching middle man between HP payroll and Pacific Bell Phone Co accts recievables for awhile, heh. TEN seemed a much more disconnected experience than Hawaii, on the pickup racing side anyway. Watching leaders/winner from the lobby was fun in itself. Running against Huggins is still the same too ;) <== notice the wink Bob. Every time I mention an online race to my better half, the first thing from her mouth is "is it long distance?" LOL. Mitch -- Remove "nospam." to reply. SuSE 9.2 Pro KDE 3.3.2a

Those were good times...the community was a lot closer back then. I remember hanging out in the Compuserve forums and hearing about it. I was there the first night it went public. I ran in a bunch of leagues ringing up $900 phone bills. I didn't care...it was a blast. My ID was sbycroft. I ran in Late Night with Dave, SSCA BGN, CUP, and Sunday Nights, NRH, and SASCAR. "No passing in the tri!!!" LOL!!! "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0y0Yd.7563$[email hidden]...

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> Larry wrote: > >> Waves Hand... >> >> I don't remember a lot about how the service worked, but I do remember >> the >> $300 Phone Bills :) >> >> -Larry >> >> "Tim Y" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:Bt%Xd.631435$Xk.400472@pd7tw3no... >>> Hard to believe its been 10 years since my first online racing >>> experience. I was wondering how many old-timers that still follow >>> this group were testers on Hawaii? A show of hands and handles. >>> I went by MR.V >>> >>> Tim yuhasz >>> >>> > > I think I started on Hawaii in Mar-Apr 96' as naman. Are you talking > about > the beta of the beta?. > > Heh, $300 was a baby crack habit ;) I doubled that every month for 5-6 > months. Nearly $4k in all but dam if it wasnt worth every penny. Online > racing has never been the same imo. I was only the un-touching middle man > between HP payroll and Pacific Bell Phone Co accts recievables for awhile, > heh. > > TEN seemed a much more disconnected experience than Hawaii, on the pickup > racing side anyway. Watching leaders/winner from the lobby was fun in > itself. Running against Huggins is still the same too ;) <== notice the > wink Bob. > > Every time I mention an online race to my better half, the first thing > from > her mouth is "is it long distance?" LOL. > > Mitch > -- > Remove "nospam." to reply. > SuSE 9.2 Pro KDE 3.3.2a

I tried it a few times until the phone bill came, then my Dad almost killed me, rofl!! That was back in my keyboard days too, got a Thrustmaster T2 shortly after that and still use it as we speak. --------------------------------------- Thanks, Aaron Markham *RATE MY CAR AT CARDOMAIN.COM* http://www.cardomain.com/id/amarkham *RIP AYRTON SENNA & DALE EARNHARDT* "Tim Y" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Bt%Xd.631435$Xk.400472@pd7tw3no...

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> Hard to believe its been 10 years since my first online racing > experience. I was wondering how many old-timers that still follow > this group were testers on Hawaii? A show of hands and handles. > I went by MR.V > > Tim yuhasz >

DodgeBullet40 wrote: > Those were good times...the community was a lot closer back then. I > remember hanging out in the Compuserve forums and hearing about it. I was > there the first night it went public. I ran in a bunch of leagues ringing > up $900 phone bills. I didn't care...it was a blast. My ID was sbycroft. > I ran in Late Night with Dave, SSCA BGN, CUP, and Sunday Nights, NRH, and > SASCAR. Steve Bycroft right? I remember you from LNWD. Whatever happened to Sparks? Hes gotta still have some interest since Oscar. Mitch -- Remove "nospam." to reply. SuSE 9.2 Pro KDE 3.3.2a

In the very early days of the beta everyone logged into the race one person at a time. It was like a role call. :-) Pete "Tim Y" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Bt%Xd.631435$Xk.400472@pd7tw3no...

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> Hard to believe its been 10 years since my first online racing > experience. I was wondering how many old-timers that still follow > this group were testers on Hawaii? A show of hands and handles. > I went by MR.V > > Tim yuhasz > >

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:29:05 GMT, "Tim Y" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Hard to believe its been 10 years since my first online racing >experience. I was wondering how many old-timers that still follow >this group were testers on Hawaii? A show of hands and handles. >I went by MR.V > >Tim yuhasz >

I was on it just a couple times. I was too cheap to do it a lot. The guy that ran our league still lived with his parents and ran up a phone bill in the hundreds of dollars for just one month. After that, he disappeared from view. :)

Tim Y wrote: > Hard to believe its been 10 years since my first online racing > experience. I was wondering how many old-timers that still follow > this group were testers on Hawaii? A show of hands and handles. > I went by MR.V > > Tim yuhasz Here... Who would have thought, back then, that online racing would be no further along than it is today? Well, perhaps I should clarify. I have not raced online in well over a year, let's say no further than what I perceive it to be today. -- Don Burnette "When you decide something is impossible to do, try to stay out of the way of the man that's doing it."

Yeah...Late Night with Dave was a great league. I think we ran in SSCA too. I don't know what happened to him...I think he got a job with Creative and had to give it up... "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Jl2Yd.16119$[email hidden]...

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> DodgeBullet40 wrote: > >> Those were good times...the community was a lot closer back then. I >> remember hanging out in the Compuserve forums and hearing about it. I >> was >> there the first night it went public. I ran in a bunch of leagues >> ringing >> up $900 phone bills. I didn't care...it was a blast. My ID was >> sbycroft. >> I ran in Late Night with Dave, SSCA BGN, CUP, and Sunday Nights, NRH, and >> SASCAR. > > > Steve Bycroft right? I remember you from LNWD. Whatever happened to > Sparks? Hes gotta still have some interest since Oscar. > > Mitch > -- > Remove "nospam." to reply. > SuSE 9.2 Pro KDE 3.3.2a

>"DodgeBullet40" <[email hidden]> wrote > Yeah...Late Night with Dave was a great league. LNwD had the best race reports, also :) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

"Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:

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> Tim Y wrote: >> Hard to believe its been 10 years since my first online racing >> experience. I was wondering how many old-timers that still follow >> this group were testers on Hawaii? A show of hands and handles. >> I went by MR.V >> >> Tim yuhasz > > > Here... > > Who would have thought, back then, that online racing would be no > further along than it is today? > > Well, perhaps I should clarify. I have not raced online in well over a > year, let's say no further than what I perceive it to be today. > > > > >

I never did the beta work, but I was able to log on a few times and race. I don't remember any backwards drivers, any obscene flaming, But there were some pretty intense guys. I got a podium finish after getting caught up in a 20 car wreck on lap one at...probably Martinsville. I stayed out with the hood(bonnet) shoved up into the windscreen<windshield> and motored around. I had one teeny/tiny piece of viewable real estate in the cockpit. Got lapped many times by the two guys who missed the carnage. But the others took so long in the pits I was able to outlast them. :) dave henrie

Yeah...he kept them up awhile too after the league folded. I kept meaning to grab them but kept putting it off... "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:687Yd.33950$[email hidden]...

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> >"DodgeBullet40" <[email hidden]> wrote >> Yeah...Late Night with Dave was a great league. > > > LNwD had the best race reports, also :) > > > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > >

"Tim Y" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Bt%Xd.631435$Xk.400472@pd7tw3no...

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> Hard to believe its been 10 years since my first online racing > experience. I was wondering how many old-timers that still follow > this group were testers on Hawaii? A show of hands and handles. > I went by MR.V > > Tim yuhasz >

Raced a few times on Hawaii. I had a son in college and a new house and just couldn't afford the phone bills. Think about it, those were dialup days. Good quality racing but sometimes intense. I haven't really got back into the online scene much since. I finally have half-decent dsl and am thinking about getting back into it if there is anyone out there who would take an old "newbie" and help him through the ropes. Ed

I guess the current state of on-line racing is about where I thought it would be. I didn't think the community would be as scattered though. Back in the day everyone would be meet on Hawaii, Compuserve, or TEN. A central meeting place is probably the thing the community needs the most to get it back to where it used to be. There are still some good leagues out there and broadband is finally available to most people...even CW Webster is using broadband now...lol. I thought Papyrus would keep making Nascar and Indycar games forever...obviously that didn't happen. "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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>> Who would have thought, back then, that online racing would be no further > along than it is today? > > Well, perhaps I should clarify. I have not raced online in well over a > year, let's say no further than what I perceive it to be today. > > > > > > -- > Don Burnette > > "When you decide something is impossible to do, try to stay out of the > way of the man that's doing it." > >

hear hear "DodgeBullet40" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8%hYd.62934$EL5.17503@trnddc05...

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>I guess the current state of on-line racing is about where I thought it >would be. I didn't think the community would be as scattered though. Back >in the day everyone would be meet on Hawaii, Compuserve, or TEN. A central >meeting place is probably the thing the community needs the most to get it >back to where it used to be. There are still some good leagues out there >and broadband is finally available to most people...even CW Webster is >using broadband now...lol. I thought Papyrus would keep making Nascar and >Indycar games forever...obviously that didn't happen. > > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >>> Who would have thought, back then, that online racing would be no >>> further >> along than it is today? >> >> Well, perhaps I should clarify. I have not raced online in well over a >> year, let's say no further than what I perceive it to be today. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Don Burnette >> >> "When you decide something is impossible to do, try to stay out of the >> way of the man that's doing it." >> >> > >

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:29:05 GMT, "Tim Y" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Hard to believe its been 10 years since my first online racing >experience. I was wondering how many old-timers that still follow >this group were testers on Hawaii? A show of hands and handles. >I went by MR.V I was a tester but could not actually get the connection working, there was some technical problem (can't remember what).

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 12:44:38 -0500, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Waves Hand... > >I don't remember a lot about how the service worked, but I do remember the >$300 Phone Bills :) > >-LarryYes I remember the FIRST phone bill I got. Racing kinda got curtailed after that. Jeff

Yep I was there,phone bills never got too bad for me,I do rember the cars jumping straight up in the air at the beginning lol Jeff Haas wrote:

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> On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 12:44:38 -0500, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >>Waves Hand... >> >>I don't remember a lot about how the service worked, but I do remember the >>$300 Phone Bills :) >> >>-Larry > > Yes I remember the FIRST phone bill I got. Racing kinda got curtailed > after that. > > Jeff

=> Out of hiding: Loong time no see! Aaaahh Hawaii - what memories! I raced in the IVGA Last chance league with "legends" likke Joe Farr, Nim Cross, Earl Setser etc... (where are they now?) My biggest problem was a that I was on international calling rate (!!) And when a $650+ phonebill "suddenly" surfaced - I had to drop out... (Boy was my old man pissed!!) <= Back into hiding... (Prerparing my historic racecar you see) -- ed_ "Tim Y" <[email hidden]> skrev i melding news:Bt%Xd.631435$Xk.400472@pd7tw3no... > Hard to believe its been 10 years since my first online racing > experience. I was wondering how many old-timers that still follow > this group were testers on Hawaii? A show of hands and handles. > I went by MR.V > > Tim yuhasz > >

Ed Solheim wrote: > > <= Back into hiding... > > (Prerparing my historic racecar you see) How's that deal coming along Ed? When do we see ya on Speed channel :) Mitch -- Remove "nospam." to reply. SuSE 9.2 Pro KDE 3.3.2a

I still think TEN was the best experience there has been since Hawaii. They had ratings that actually told you something. Sierra's are useless, and NSR doesn't even have any I can find (though they were trumpeted in some of the interviews I read). -Larry "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0y0Yd.7563$[email hidden]...

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> I think I started on Hawaii in Mar-Apr 96' as naman. Are you talking > about > the beta of the beta?. > > Heh, $300 was a baby crack habit ;) I doubled that every month for 5-6 > months. Nearly $4k in all but dam if it wasnt worth every penny. Online > racing has never been the same imo. I was only the un-touching middle man > between HP payroll and Pacific Bell Phone Co accts recievables for awhile, > heh. > > TEN seemed a much more disconnected experience than Hawaii, on the pickup > racing side anyway. Watching leaders/winner from the lobby was fun in > itself. Running against Huggins is still the same too ;) <== notice the > wink Bob. > > Every time I mention an online race to my better half, the first thing > from > her mouth is "is it long distance?" LOL. > > Mitch > -- > Remove "nospam." to reply. > SuSE 9.2 Pro KDE 3.3.2a

Personly, from a technology standpoint, I think it's gone backwards :( -Larry "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:UPWdnXauSNjBeK3fRVn-

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> Here... > > Who would have thought, back then, that online racing would be no further > along than it is today? > > Well, perhaps I should clarify. I have not raced online in well over a > year, let's say no further than what I perceive it to be today. > > > > > > -- > Don Burnette > > "When you decide something is impossible to do, try to stay out of the > way of the man that's doing it." > >

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> Hard to believe its been 10 years since my first online racing > experience. I was wondering how many old-timers that still follow > this group were testers on Hawaii? A show of hands and handles. > I went by MR.V > > Tim yuhasz > >

I ran a few times. First ever flaming experience on the net happened on Hawaii. :) Kerry

Remeber it well. BClay

It's getting along quite well... I'm in the latter stages of preparing the shell - and then it's of to the painter for a respray. Also been busy preparing a Mini Marcos for a "customer" aswell as helping Matt out with his car. He took 4 class wins from 4 starts last season - although competition was "petite" to say the least.. Highlight of the season was the last race when his prays for rain finally paid off - was such a blast watching him "kill" Mustangs in the wet ending with a well deserved 5th overall. Oh well - seems like things are pretty dull in the virtual-world so it looks like we picked the right time to convert back into real size cars :o) Any big news I've missed? (Like Racing Legends having been released (sorry 'couldnt help it!) or big announcements from the ex-Papy guys at FIRST?) -- ed_ "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> skrev i melding news:yxqYd.17421$[email hidden]... > Ed Solheim wrote: > > >> >> <= Back into hiding... >> >> (Prerparing my historic racecar you see) > > How's that deal coming along Ed? When do we see ya on Speed channel :) > > Mitch > -- > Remove "nospam." to reply. > SuSE 9.2 Pro KDE 3.3.2a

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> It's getting along quite well... I'm in the latter stages of preparing the > shell - and then it's of to the painter for a respray. > > Also been busy preparing a Mini Marcos for a "customer" aswell as helping > Matt out with his car. He took 4 class wins from 4 starts last season - > although competition was "petite" to say the least.. Highlight of the > season was the last race when his prays for rain finally paid off - was > such a blast watching him "kill" Mustangs in the wet ending with a well > deserved 5th overall. > > Oh well - seems like things are pretty dull in the virtual-world so it > looks like we picked the right time to convert back into real size cars > :o) > > Any big news I've missed? (Like Racing Legends having been released (sorry > 'couldnt help it!) or big announcements from the ex-Papy guys at FIRST?) > > -- > ed_ > > > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> skrev i melding > news:yxqYd.17421$[email hidden]... >> Ed Solheim wrote: >> >> >>> >>> <= Back into hiding... >>> >>> (Prerparing my historic racecar you see) >> >> How's that deal coming along Ed? When do we see ya on Speed channel :) >> >> Mitch >> -- >> Remove "nospam." to reply. >> SuSE 9.2 Pro KDE 3.3.2a

Glad to hear it Ed. As far as virtual cars go I just received GTR today. To me GTR is on par with GPL and nearly the best thing since sliced bread ;) Seriously though, we finally get something for the hardcore simmer and all we hear is "its the same as F1C" which imo is a load of bs. Yet in the next sentence the same guys say how great NSR "WILL BE WITH A PATCH" and that no one cheats in NR2003... go figure... What happened to the good ole days when roof riders were ridiculed and aids users were cheaters and true sims (as GTR) were glorified as gifts from heaven ;) Mitch -- Remove "nospam." to reply. SuSE 9.2 Pro KDE 3.3.2a

Mitch_A wrote: > As far as virtual cars go I just received GTR today. To me GTR is onpar > with GPL and nearly the best thing since sliced bread ;) I prefer GTP because of the cars simulated, but GTR is awesome. I hate pretty much everything else I've tried in the ISI engine, but GTR (and the rFactor demo, actually) is incredibly good.