Re: Race Car Dynamics

We've got a complete 10 part series on racing physics at The Pits. Click on the 'Physics' section on the front page... Cheers! -- �� Jan Kohl �� The Pits Performance Team The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com Simon H <hello> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi > > Could anyone point me to sites/book titles (preferably sites or pdf's etc.) > that deal with the technicalities and especially the theory behind race car > chassis/suspension design, roll centres, steering geometry, basic formulae > etc. and theory? I am an engineer, but would like a head start instead of > having to try and think of all the basics from scratch. > > Thanks > > -Simon H > >

Hi Could anyone point me to sites/book titles (preferably sites or pdf's etc.) that deal with the technicalities and especially the theory behind race car chassis/suspension design, roll centres, steering geometry, basic formulae etc. and theory? I am an engineer, but would like a head start instead of having to try and think of all the basics from scratch. Thanks -Simon H

Simon H <hello> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi > > Could anyone point me to sites/book titles (preferably sites or pdf'setc.) > that deal with the technicalities and especially the theory behind racecar > chassis/suspension design, roll centres, steering geometry, basic formulae > etc. and theory? I am an engineer, but would like a head start instead of > having to try and think of all the basics from scratch. > > Thanks > look at www.muller.net/karting for some karting technical info, has some good articles about steering geometry and so on. For cars it differs a little but the basic principals are all there and it's free!

You'll need these then; "Engineer to Win" by Caroll Smith "Prepare to Win" by Caroll Smith "Tune to Win" by Caroll Smith "Advance Race Car Suspesion Development" by Steve Smith (no releation to Mr. C.S - afaik) "RaceCar Engineerin and Mechanics" by Paul Van Valkenburg "Racecar Vehicle Dynamics" by Milliken and Milliken "Competition Car Suspension" by Allan Staniforth -- All the best, Ed Solheim ** Proud member of the GPLEA ** (Remove SPAM-GUARD in address to reply) Simon H wrote: > Hi > > Could anyone point me to sites/book titles (preferably sites or pdf's etc.) > that deal with the technicalities and especially the theory behind race car > chassis/suspension design, roll centres, steering geometry, basic formulae > etc. and theory? I am an engineer, but would like a head start instead of > having to try and think of all the basics from scratch. > > Thanks > > -Simon H

Good list! May I add: "Race Car Chassis: Design & Construction" by Forbes Aird "Chassis Engineering/Chassis Design, Building & Tuning for High Performance Handling" by Herb Adams BB Ed Solheim wrote:

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> > You'll need these then; > > "Engineer to Win" by Caroll Smith > "Prepare to Win" by Caroll Smith > "Tune to Win" by Caroll Smith > "Advance Race Car Suspesion Development" by Steve Smith (no releation to Mr. > C.S - afaik) > "RaceCar Engineerin and Mechanics" by Paul Van Valkenburg > "Racecar Vehicle Dynamics" by Milliken and Milliken > "Competition Car Suspension" by Allan Staniforth

Physic's of Racing: http://members.home.net/rck/phor/ "Simon H" <hello> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi > > Could anyone point me to sites/book titles (preferably sites or pdf'setc.) > that deal with the technicalities and especially the theory behind racecar

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> chassis/suspension design, roll centres, steering geometry, basic formulae > etc. and theory? I am an engineer, but would like a head start instead of > having to try and think of all the basics from scratch. > > Thanks > > -Simon H > >

Jan Kohl wrote: > > We've got a complete 10 part series on racing physics at The Pits. Click > on the 'Physics' section on the front page... Jan -- Every link I hit on your "Physics" page (except the FAQ) gave me a "Not Found" error: >> The requested URL /files/race/01-Weight-Transfer.html was not foundon this server. << Ended up going to Team.net's ftp site and DLing it there. You may have some broken links... BB

Thanks, Barton, this darn Linux server is giving me some pains...all fixed now! Cheers! -- �� Jan Kohl �� The Pits Performance Team The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com Barton Brown <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Jan Kohl wrote: > > > > We've got a complete 10 part series on racing physics at The Pits. Click > > on the 'Physics' section on the front page... > > Jan -- > > Every link I hit on your "Physics" page (except the FAQ) gave me a "Not > Found" error: > > >> The requested URL /files/race/01-Weight-Transfer.html was not found > on this server. << > > Ended up going to Team.net's ftp site and DLing it there. You may have > some broken links... > > BB

Shameless plug... <http://www.sae.org/products/books/R-146.htm> -- Doug Milliken On Sun, 27 Aug 2000, it was written:

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> Hi > > Could anyone point me to sites/book titles (preferably sites or pdf's etc.) > that deal with the technicalities and especially the theory behind race car > chassis/suspension design, roll centres, steering geometry, basic formulae > etc. and theory? I am an engineer, but would like a head start instead of > having to try and think of all the basics from scratch. > > Thanks > > -Simon H > > > >

>Shameless plug... <http://www.sae.org/products/books/R-146.htm> > >-- Doug Milliken Not a shameless plug at all. Mr. Milliken's book is an excellent source for information regarding exactly what the title says: "Race Car Vehicle Dynamics". I recommend it if you are serious about your research. Todd Wasson Performance Simulations Drag Racing and Top Speed Prediction Software http://PerformanceSimulations.Com Hmmm.... Is my signature a shameless plug?

On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 22:24:55 -0700, "don hodgdon" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >"Doug Milliken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> >> Shameless plug... <http://www.sae.org/products/books/R-146.htm> >> >> -- Doug Milliken > >"Sorry, we can't find that page!"

Indeed. Instead search for "Racing vehicle dynamics" and category book, and click go (at www.sae.org). It is the 2nd query result line or so. Ruud van Gaal, GPL Rank +53.53 MarketGraph : http://www.marketgraph.nl Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/ Car simulation: http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/racer/

Nothing shameless there Doug. I actaully took a step back after reading your name in the auther column figuring you would be busy enough to not be reading stuff here. It's great information guys, if you want to explore car dynamics this is a great place to start. Dave Robinson Doug Milliken <[email hidden]> wrote in article <[email hidden]>...

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> > Shameless plug... <http://www.sae.org/products/books/R-146.htm> > > -- Doug Milliken > > > On Sun, 27 Aug 2000, it was written: > > > Hi > > > > Could anyone point me to sites/book titles (preferably sites or pdf's

etc.) > > that deal with the technicalities and especially the theory behind racecar > > chassis/suspension design, roll centres, steering geometry, basicformulae > > etc. and theory? I am an engineer, but would like a head start insteadof

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> > having to try and think of all the basics from scratch. > > > > Thanks > > > > -Simon H > > > > > > > > > >