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Re: Nascar Heat Bugs Found

8 posts by 4 people · 27 Aug 2000 - 29 Aug 2000 19:39 UTC

Sent this to MGI? The people who can use it? -- Tim, [email hidden]|[email hidden] http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your league... http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on gpl... Reggie Brooks <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:iibq5.20844$[email hidden]... > 1. A 3% Race Length setting at the April Talledega race gives you 6 laps, > but at the October Talledega race you get 10 laps. I first noticed this when > I got to the October race in my first championship season, which was set to > 3% race lengths. Both races say 500 miles on the Championship Schedule > screen. This phenomenon occurs in Single Race also. Selecting Talledega from > the Tracks screen will give you the April race, and continuing on will give > you a 6 lap race if you select 3% on the Setup screen. Backing up to the > Tracks screen and clicking on the Event icon will give you the October race, > and continuing on from there will give you a 10 lap race. Setup screen still > says 3%. Both races say 500 miles. > > 2. On the Race Results screen, I sometimes get a situation similar to the > following: (I don't follow real Nascar race results much, so I'm not > positive this is a bug, but it doesn't look right. ) > > 1st xx:xx.xx > 2nd +5.5 > 3rd +8.8 > 4th +11.3 > 5th +15.8 > 6th +21.8 > 7th +26.4 > 8th +28.9 > 9th +1L > 10th +1L > 11th +1L > 12th +1L > 13th +1L > 14th +51.8 > 15th +53.7 > 16th +58.2 > > Notice that the 14th, 15th and 16th place results show a time instead of > +1L. I got results similar to this in a race where I was turning 30.xx / > 31.xx laps, so these cars were obviously more than 1 lap behind. This only > shows up some of the time. I'm not sure but it might be that the cars that > show times instead of +1L are the cars that are close to being lapped a > second time as in the above example. I'll pay closer attention the next time > it happens to see if this is when this anomaly (if it is one?) occurs. Am I > off base on this? Shouldn't all of them just say +1L? > > > >
Reggie Brooks 27 Aug 2000 16:25 UTC#236545
1. A 3% Race Length setting at the April Talledega race gives you 6 laps, but at the October Talledega race you get 10 laps. I first noticed this when I got to the October race in my first championship season, which was set to 3% race lengths. Both races say 500 miles on the Championship Schedule screen. This phenomenon occurs in Single Race also. Selecting Talledega from the Tracks screen will give you the April race, and continuing on will give you a 6 lap race if you select 3% on the Setup screen. Backing up to the Tracks screen and clicking on the Event icon will give you the October race, and continuing on from there will give you a 10 lap race. Setup screen still says 3%. Both races say 500 miles. 2. On the Race Results screen, I sometimes get a situation similar to the following: (I don't follow real Nascar race results much, so I'm not positive this is a bug, but it doesn't look right. ) 1st xx:xx.xx 2nd +5.5 3rd +8.8 4th +11.3 5th +15.8 6th +21.8 7th +26.4 8th +28.9 9th +1L 10th +1L 11th +1L 12th +1L 13th +1L 14th +51.8 15th +53.7 16th +58.2 Notice that the 14th, 15th and 16th place results show a time instead of +1L. I got results similar to this in a race where I was turning 30.xx / 31.xx laps, so these cars were obviously more than 1 lap behind. This only shows up some of the time. I'm not sure but it might be that the cars that show times instead of +1L are the cars that are close to being lapped a second time as in the above example. I'll pay closer attention the next time it happens to see if this is when this anomaly (if it is one?) occurs. Am I off base on this? Shouldn't all of them just say +1L?
Reggie Brooks 27 Aug 2000 21:46 UTC#236511
I thought the developers were monitoring this forum. Anybody got email address(es) for somebody at MGI that would use this info? I will gladly forward this info if I knew where to send it. "Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8obrsq$f7e$[email hidden]... > Sent this to MGI? The people who can use it? > > -- > Tim, > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for yourleague... > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based ongpl...
Quoted text (45 lines)> Reggie Brooks <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:iibq5.20844$[email hidden]... > > 1. A 3% Race Length setting at the April Talledega race gives you 6 > laps, > > but at the October Talledega race you get 10 laps. I first noticed this > when > > I got to the October race in my first championship season, which was set > to > > 3% race lengths. Both races say 500 miles on the Championship Schedule > > screen. This phenomenon occurs in Single Race also. Selecting Talledega > from > > the Tracks screen will give you the April race, and continuing on will > give > > you a 6 lap race if you select 3% on the Setup screen. Backing up to the > > Tracks screen and clicking on the Event icon will give you the October > race, > > and continuing on from there will give you a 10 lap race. Setup screen > still > > says 3%. Both races say 500 miles. > > > > 2. On the Race Results screen, I sometimes get a situation similar to > the > > following: (I don't follow real Nascar race results much, so I'm not > > positive this is a bug, but it doesn't look right. ) > > > > 1st xx:xx.xx > > 2nd +5.5 > > 3rd +8.8 > > 4th +11.3 > > 5th +15.8 > > 6th +21.8 > > 7th +26.4 > > 8th +28.9 > > 9th +1L > > 10th +1L > > 11th +1L > > 12th +1L > > 13th +1L > > 14th +51.8 > > 15th +53.7 > > 16th +58.2 > > > > Notice that the 14th, 15th and 16th place results show a time instead of > > +1L. I got results similar to this in a race where I was turning 30.xx / > > 31.xx laps, so these cars were obviously more than 1 lap behind. This
only > > shows up some of the time. I'm not sure but it might be that the carsthat > > show times instead of +1L are the cars that are close to being lapped a > > second time as in the above example. I'll pay closer attention the next > time > > it happens to see if this is when this anomaly (if it is one?) occurs.Am
Quoted text (8 lines)> I > > off base on this? Shouldn't all of them just say +1L? > > > > > > > > > >
Scott Pritchett 27 Aug 2000 23:04 UTC#236534
If the game crashes, it will automatically (with your approval) send its log file to [email hidden] best Wishes, Scott "Reggie Brooks" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:l%fq5.20993$[email hidden]... > I thought the developers were monitoring this forum. Anybody got email > address(es) for somebody at MGI that would use this info? I will gladly > forward this info if I knew where to send it. >
Are you quitting the race before all of the cars have finished? I believe we have a bug in the "faking" that we do if you quit before all cars have actually gotten to finish where they don't report the laps down... if you let all the cars finish you should get correct results. Not that I'm pretending this is a solution ;) -Dave P. "Reggie Brooks" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8Xiq5.21020$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> Thanks for the info. Haven't had a game crash yet so I hadn't seen that. > Forwarded my original message to them. > > The +1L inconsistency happened again, and the results agreed with my > original assessment. All of the cars that showed times instead of +1L were > close to being lapped a second time. >
Tim Wheatley 28 Aug 2000 00:18 UTC#236454
Only Ed Martin is I believe, and he's probably ignore this thinking that it's someone whining, if you want to help I would email them. :-) -- Tim, [email hidden]|[email hidden] http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your league... http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on gpl... Reggie Brooks <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:l%fq5.20993$[email hidden]... > I thought the developers were monitoring this forum. Anybody got email > address(es) for somebody at MGI that would use this info? I will gladly > forward this info if I knew where to send it. > > "Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8obrsq$f7e$[email hidden]... > > Sent this to MGI? The people who can use it? > > > > -- > > Tim, > > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your > league... > > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on > gpl... > > Reggie Brooks <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:iibq5.20844$[email hidden]... > > > 1. A 3% Race Length setting at the April Talledega race gives you 6 > > laps, > > > but at the October Talledega race you get 10 laps. I first noticed this > > when > > > I got to the October race in my first championship season, which was set > > to > > > 3% race lengths. Both races say 500 miles on the Championship Schedule > > > screen. This phenomenon occurs in Single Race also. Selecting Talledega > > from > > > the Tracks screen will give you the April race, and continuing on will > > give > > > you a 6 lap race if you select 3% on the Setup screen. Backing up to the > > > Tracks screen and clicking on the Event icon will give you the October > > race, > > > and continuing on from there will give you a 10 lap race. Setup screen > > still > > > says 3%. Both races say 500 miles. > > > > > > 2. On the Race Results screen, I sometimes get a situation similar to > > the > > > following: (I don't follow real Nascar race results much, so I'm not > > > positive this is a bug, but it doesn't look right. ) > > > > > > 1st xx:xx.xx > > > 2nd +5.5 > > > 3rd +8.8 > > > 4th +11.3 > > > 5th +15.8 > > > 6th +21.8 > > > 7th +26.4 > > > 8th +28.9 > > > 9th +1L > > > 10th +1L > > > 11th +1L > > > 12th +1L > > > 13th +1L > > > 14th +51.8 > > > 15th +53.7 > > > 16th +58.2 > > > > > > Notice that the 14th, 15th and 16th place results show a time instead of > > > +1L. I got results similar to this in a race where I was turning 30.xx / > > > 31.xx laps, so these cars were obviously more than 1 lap behind. This > only > > > shows up some of the time. I'm not sure but it might be that the cars > that > > > show times instead of +1L are the cars that are close to being lapped a > > > second time as in the above example. I'll pay closer attention the next > > time > > > it happens to see if this is when this anomaly (if it is one?) occurs. > Am > > I > > > off base on this? Shouldn't all of them just say +1L? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Reggie Brooks 28 Aug 2000 01:07 UTC#236469
Thanks for the info. Haven't had a game crash yet so I hadn't seen that. Forwarded my original message to them. The +1L inconsistency happened again, and the results agreed with my original assessment. All of the cars that showed times instead of +1L were close to being lapped a second time. "Scott Pritchett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:D7hq5.138309$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (15 lines)> If the game crashes, it will automatically (with your approval) send its > log file to [email hidden] > > best Wishes, > Scott > > "Reggie Brooks" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:l%fq5.20993$[email hidden]... > > I thought the developers were monitoring this forum. Anybody got email > > address(es) for somebody at MGI that would use this info? I will gladly > > forward this info if I knew where to send it. > > > > >
I may have been doing that; however, when I win the race and I see that message "ESC to quit, Spacebar for replay" appear at the bottom of the screen, I am lead to believe that it is safe to perform either of those actions. If proper race results reporting is contingent upon all cars having finished the race, then that message should not be displayed and I should be prohibited from performing those actions until all cars have finished. If the race is not over until all cars have finished, then the game shouldn't tell me it's ok to quit as soon as I win, or that "faking" that you do should be improved to work properly. When have all cars finished? Is it when all drivers times have been displayed on those Unofficial Results screens that pop up during the automated victory lap that kicks in after you win the race? If so, then I agree that this is not the solution. Although this should fixed, I consider it to be a minor bug. Not as serious as the incorrect # of laps at the 2nd Talledega race that I reported along with this one. That problem ought to be very simple to correct, probably just changing an incorrect hex digit multiplier/divisor buried somewhere in one of the game files. Both of these are much less serious than the yellow flag problems that have been reported at great lengths in this forum. No personal observations here, since I have not tackled flags yet; but if it's as bad as everybody says, then this is a big problem. After all that ranting, I would like to add that your presence in this forum is greatly appreciated, and I applaud your work on what I consider to be the best Nascar game to date. Hopefully, some of the comments you see here will lead to improvements that will make it even better. Thanks for responding. Keep up the good work. Reggie Brooks "Dave Pollatsek" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:39ab18c7$0$72521$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (14 lines)> Are you quitting the race before all of the cars have finished? I believe > we have a bug in the "faking" that we do if you quit before all cars have > actually gotten to finish where they don't report the laps down... if you > let all the cars finish you should get correct results. Not that I'm > pretending this is a solution ;) > -Dave P. > > "Reggie Brooks" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8Xiq5.21020$[email hidden]... > > Thanks for the info. Haven't had a game crash yet so I hadn't seen that. > > Forwarded my original message to them. > > > > The +1L inconsistency happened again, and the results agreed with my > > original assessment. All of the cars that showed times instead of +1L
were > > close to being lapped a second time. > > > > >

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