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Re: Simple LWFF pedal solution

11 posts by 9 people · 29 Aug 2000 - 07 Sep 2000 03:06 UTC

briGuy 29 Aug 2000#235654
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > You may want to try this. It worked for me. Take a piece of foam > rubber used to insulate 1/2 in 3/4 in copper water pipe and cut to > size of pedal travel for the pedal. Cut piece length wise so you can > wrap around the pedal base and secure with electrical tape... Without tearing my pedals down right now, would this rubber fit around or inside the spring? Or do you ditch your spring entirely? -- s i m a g e r y @ h o t m a i l . c o m
don hodgdon 29 Aug 2000#235767
Mike Dietz <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... . I just couldn't > justify spending $ 100 for the CH pedals that didn't work with all > titles with my LWFF, and what the heck do you do with the extra > set of pedals. My CH pedals only cost $50.00, and as far as what to do with the extra set of pedals, throw 'em out! Use the wiring from the LWFF pedals and use it to rewire the CH pedals. You then have a bitchen set of pedals that work with all your sims. -- don New Programmes for the Converted GPL Tracks http://www.ianparker1.plus.com/gpl/bapom/
Mike Dietz 29 Aug 2000#235828
You may want to try this. It worked for me. Take a piece of foam rubber used to insulate 1/2 in 3/4 in copper water pipe and cut to size of pedal travel for the pedal. Cut piece length wise so you can wrap around the pedal base and secure with electrical tape. It gives the feel of the pedal getting firmer the more you press down and give you a greater feeling before locking up the brakes. I just couldn't justify spending $ 100 for the CH pedals that didn't work with all titles with my LWFF, and what the heck do you do with the extra set of pedals.
"Joe Marques" <Joe"NO_SPAM"[email hidden]> wrote in message news:m2Zq5.32639$[email hidden]... > Where did you get them at that price and are they gameport OR USB? Howeasy > was it to rewire? Any spot on the net with instructions? I'm tired of > using my TSW2 pedals in GPL and then going back to LWFF for everythingelse. > > TIA > > -- > Joe Marques Hi Joe, I bought the CH pedals at Fry's electronics, $49.95 plus tax. CH also sells them from their online store at: http://www.chproducts.com/index.html They are standard gameport pedals. The Logitech wires have slip on connectors, as do the CH pedals. All you are really doing is pulling the wires off the pots in the Logitech pedals and slipping them on the CH pedal pots. That is an oversimplification, but if you are prepared, the swap shouldn't take more than about 1/2 an hour. There is a very detailed how-to on Alison's GPL site: http://www.simracing.com/~alison/gpl/ Look under the Help/Controllers/Readers Reports page for the report on the Logitech Wingman Formula by Steve Blankenship, he has quite a few tips for Logi owners. I'll just copy the CH pedal swap info here: "2) CH(std.)Pedal Conversion Basically, you just unscrew and open up the Logitech pedal base, unplug the wires from the two pots (three each) and remove the cable, then plug those same wires into the pots on the CH pedals, which you've likewise opened (base plate and pedal covers) and removed the wiring from. Simple wire-swapping, really, with the following fine points. Make a note of the respective wiring hookups on both sets before you remove anything. That way you'll have a reference for what goes where, and you can revert later if you want to. The Logitech brake pot has three plug-in wires; blue orange and yellow. The throttle has three also; green, red, and brown. (viewed from the topside of the pot, opposite the shaft) The CH is slightly different due to the two-way switch, but no matter. Just draw it or write it down. You can forget about the switch on the CH pedals for single/dual axis; you don't need it now. Just leave it alone and keep the whole CH harness as-is, in case you ever want to revert. On the Logitech cable, all you have to do is remove a few inches of the outer cable sheath (being careful not to cut the inner wires) to be able to route the appropriate internal wires into the CH pedal pods and slit and remove the rubber plug around the cable that seals up the pedal base so it can be used again if needed. You'll also need to "V" out the first couple of slits in the CH base where the tiny wires run through, so you can get the bottom cover to fit over the Logitech cable, unless you remove the outer cable sheath that far back. I used a really high tech serrated kitchen knife on the base.:-)" <NOTE: Instead of cutting my cable covering, I made short extensions using the same size blade connectors and some old telephone wire - dph> "Once your wires are prepped, just route them into the CH pedals just like the CH wires were done, with the Logitech brake wires to the CH brake, throttle to throttle, etc. NOTE: You have to reverse the order of the brake wires from how they came off the Logitech brake pedal pot, as where it had rotated clockwise, both CH pots rotate counterclockwise. The wiring order for the gas pedal pot stays the same as it was. You'll have to bend the little plugs 90 degrees like the CH ones were, so the pots will sit properly in their happy homes as before. Note how much nicer the CH pots look? Hmmmmm. Once you're all connected, screw the covers back on that sucker, hook it up, boot up and calibrate." I hope this helps. I've had these pedals for over 3 years now, used them first with my TM GP1 and now my LWFF. I've never had to change a pot or a spring, and I find them to be very comfortable in long races. -- don New GPL Programs for the Converted Tracks: http://www.ianparker1.plus.com/gpl/bapom/
Simon Brown 30 Aug 2000 00:31 UTC#235684
Simple LWFF pedal solution - take them into the garden with a big sledge hammer and....<g> End of problem.
Joe Marques 30 Aug 2000 01:02 UTC#235699
Where did you get them at that price and are they gameport OR USB? How easy was it to rewire? Any spot on the net with instructions? I'm tired of using my TSW2 pedals in GPL and then going back to LWFF for everything else. TIA -- Joe Marques Please remove "NO SPAM" to e-mail me. "don hodgdon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8ohcoh$vm$[email hidden]... > > Mike Dietz <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > . I just couldn't > > justify spending $ 100 for the CH pedals that didn't work with all > > titles with my LWFF, and what the heck do you do with the extra > > set of pedals. > > My CH pedals only cost $50.00, and as far as what to do with the extra set > of pedals, throw 'em out! Use the wiring from the LWFF pedals and use it to > rewire the CH pedals. You then have a bitchen set of pedals that work with > all your sims. > > -- > don > > New Programmes for the Converted GPL Tracks > http://www.ianparker1.plus.com/gpl/bapom/ > > > >
Barton Brown 30 Aug 2000 03:52 UTC#235593
Mike Dietz wrote: > and what the heck do you do with the extra set of pedals. Double heel-and-toe? BB
Matt Lanzer 30 Aug 2000 12:12 UTC#235588
I don't know if they're sold worldwide, but I bought a $1.99 generic Nerf football, cut it into a shape & size to fit snugly under the brake pedal and it works great. Wonderful feel of progressively increasing resistance. Ive used the same nerf chunk for 8 months and never replaced it and it stays put. Besides, I had no idea what the Hell a squash ball was. Warlock! Mike Dietz wrote:
Quoted text (9 lines)> You may want to try this. It worked for me. Take a piece of foam > rubber used to insulate 1/2 in 3/4 in copper water pipe and cut to > size of pedal travel for the pedal. Cut piece length wise so you can > wrap around the pedal base and secure with electrical tape. It gives > the feel of the pedal getting firmer the more you press down and give > you a greater feeling before locking up the brakes. I just couldn't > justify spending $ 100 for the CH pedals that didn't work with all > titles with my LWFF, and what the heck do you do with the extra > set of pedals.
Joe Marques 31 Aug 2000 00:44 UTC#235199
I'm using the same thing! It's a mini-nerf that I cut and place a piece behind the brake and gas pedals. Cheap fix for now. -- Joe Marques Please remove "NO SPAM" to e-mail me. "Matt Lanzer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I don't know if they're sold worldwide, but I bought a $1.99 generic Nerf > football, cut it into a shape & size to fit snugly under the brake pedal > and it works great. Wonderful feel of progressively increasing > resistance. Ive used the same nerf chunk for 8 months and never replaced > it and it stays put. > Besides, I had no idea what the Hell a squash ball was. > > Warlock! > > Mike Dietz wrote: > > > You may want to try this. It worked for me. Take a piece of foam > > rubber used to insulate 1/2 in 3/4 in copper water pipe and cut to > > size of pedal travel for the pedal. Cut piece length wise so you can > > wrap around the pedal base and secure with electrical tape. It gives > > the feel of the pedal getting firmer the more you press down and give > > you a greater feeling before locking up the brakes. I just couldn't > > justify spending $ 100 for the CH pedals that didn't work with all > > titles with my LWFF, and what the heck do you do with the extra > > set of pedals. >
JS 07 Sep 2000 03:06 UTC↳ reply to Simon Brown#233603
Send me the pots first Jens On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 00:31:26 GMT, "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Simple LWFF pedal solution - take them into the garden with a big sledge >hammer and....<g> > >End of problem. > --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ GPLRank: -2.61

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