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F1 2000 @ Spa

32 posts by 14 people · 01 Sep 2000 12:23 UTC - 10 Sep 2000 01:42 UTC

F1 2000 at Spa: fun versus track accuracy

Greg Cisko enjoyed a race at Spa in F1 2000 after a CPU upgrade, but HJ Ventura and others said the track, especially Eau Rouge, was inaccurate and too narrow. Several argued exact accuracy matters less than enjoyable racing, and add-on graphics fixes for F1 2000 tracks were linked.

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Greg Cisko 01 Sep 2000 12:23 UTC#234805
I ran a 15% GP at Spa yesterday, as my Achilles is finally healed enough for short races. I qualified 5th, and had no problem at the start at all. I had just upgraded my P3-600E to a P3-750E. The little bump in CPU seems just the ticket for the start line problems. Previously with the 600E I would get 15fps @800x600 (12fps on the grid) with most stuff turned on and or maxed out. Now I was getting 18fps during the race and 15fps on the grid. Right off the line I took second at la source. No one bumped me no crappy framerate, just a good race start. I found that after burning a few laps of fuel, I could take eau rouge flat out. As I re-learned the track eau rouge was no big deal at all. In fact the whole track looked *VERY* close to what I saw on TV this past weekend. Anyway my new recommendation for F1 2000 is at least a P3-750E ;-) -- [email hidden]
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Oh, please the track model couldn't be worse. Eau Rouge is so bad, and the track far too narrow. "Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:saNr5.28955$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (25 lines)> I ran a 15% GP at Spa yesterday, as my Achilles is finally healed > enough for short races. I qualified 5th, and had no problem at the > start at all. I had just upgraded my P3-600E to a P3-750E. The little > bump in CPU seems just the ticket for the start line problems. > > Previously with the 600E I would get 15fps @800x600 (12fps > on the grid) with most stuff turned on and or maxed out. Now > I was getting 18fps during the race and 15fps on the grid. > > Right off the line I took second at la source. No one bumped me > no crappy framerate, just a good race start. I found that after burning > a few laps of fuel, I could take eau rouge flat out. As I re-learned the > track eau rouge was no big deal at all. In fact the whole track looked > *VERY* close to what I saw on TV this past weekend. > > Anyway my new recommendation for F1 2000 is at least a > P3-750E ;-) > > -- > > [email hidden] > > > >
"Harjan Brand" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vsPr5.944$[email hidden]... > Oh, please the track model couldn't be worse. Eau Rouge is so bad, and the > track far too narrow. Sure. -- [email hidden]
> Right off the line I took second at la source. No one bumped me > no crappy framerate, just a good race start. I found that after burning > a few laps of fuel, I could take eau rouge flat out. As I re-learned the > track eau rouge was no big deal at all. In fact the whole track looked > *VERY* close to what I saw on TV this past weekend. This is pure bullshit. Believe me i am a F1 2000 fan. But the track is not accurate at all. In F1 2000 its hardly possible to drive with two cars side by side after eau rouge. Well did you see the real race? Mika, Shumi and Zonta side by side... Not only that. In F1 2000 going flat in eau rouge is so EASY. You cannot compare that with real F1 races. Check the post with 'going flat through eau rouge' again. Some drivers do it, but others are lifting. In F1 2000 its way too simple. Without altering any file (!!!!), i managed to do a 1:45:231 at Spa/Belgium. Thats not like real F1 racing at all. They did something like 1:51 during qualifying. So please....... check it again !!! Again I like F1 2000 really much, but what you were saying is bullshit. HJ
Somehow I've got the impression that F12000 is in its worst in modelling the Monza track... To me for ex. the Imola of F12000 was quite good. But there really is something wrong with Monza...? Even the huge and high forest looks _very_ unreal, ..., and there seems to be even some graphical errors: some tree branch hanging _on_ the Parabolca... ?? Arto PS GP3 is much better in Monza, but my MSFF is still turning to left... Do I dare to use any "registry" patch? And which one of these? I've found at least 3 different ones. And they all say they'll not be responsible, if my system gets crazy...
Guys there is somebody out there who feels your pain and has done something about it, just go to this site, this guy is a genius! http://members.tripod.com/djburaz/ Look at the work he does...... Sudesh "Arto Wikla" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht news:wikla.967847831@kanasaari...
Quoted text (12 lines)> Somehow I've got the impression that F12000 is in its worst in modelling > the Monza track... To me for ex. the Imola of F12000 was quite good. > But there really is something wrong with Monza...? Even the huge and > high forest looks _very_ unreal, ..., and there seems to be even some > graphical errors: some tree branch hanging _on_ the Parabolca... ?? > > Arto > > PS GP3 is much better in Monza, but my MSFF is still turning to left... > Do I dare to use any "registry" patch? And which one of these? > I've found at least 3 different ones. And they all say they'll > not be responsible, if my system gets crazy...
"HJ Ventura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8LVr5.139303$Kw2.1103543@flipper... > So please....... check it again !!! Again I like F1 2000 really much, but > what you were saying is bullshit. OK thanks. -- [email hidden]
Looks great, how in the hell do you install them? DOH! J. Janasov sudesh <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Guys there is somebody out there who feels your pain and has donesomething
Quoted text (24 lines)> about it, just go to this site, this guy is a genius! > > http://members.tripod.com/djburaz/ > > Look at the work he does...... > > > Sudesh > "Arto Wikla" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht > news:wikla.967847831@kanasaari... > > Somehow I've got the impression that F12000 is in its worst in modelling > > the Monza track... To me for ex. the Imola of F12000 was quite good. > > But there really is something wrong with Monza...? Even the huge and > > high forest looks _very_ unreal, ..., and there seems to be even some > > graphical errors: some tree branch hanging _on_ the Parabolca... ?? > > > > Arto > > > > PS GP3 is much better in Monza, but my MSFF is still turning to left... > > Do I dare to use any "registry" patch? And which one of these? > > I've found at least 3 different ones. And they all say they'll > > not be responsible, if my system gets crazy... > >
Cool, I'm fixing to find out how much better it will perform for me with a Celeron 566 hopefully running at 850, versus the 300a running at 464 mhz that I have now. I've found a new love for F12000, and really looking foward to the improved framerates on this graphics hog. -- Don Burnette Dburn in N3 and Legends ICQ# 74084566 "Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:saNr5.28955$[email hidden]... > I ran a 15% GP at Spa yesterday, as my Achilles is finally healed > enough for short races. I qualified 5th, and had no problem at the > start at all. I had just upgraded my P3-600E to a P3-750E. The little > bump in CPU seems just the ticket for the start line problems. > > Previously with the 600E I would get 15fps @800x600 (12fps > on the grid) with most stuff turned on and or maxed out. Now > I was getting 18fps during the race and 15fps on the grid. > > Right off the line I took second at la source. No one bumped me > no crappy framerate, just a good race start. I found that after burning > a few laps of fuel, I could take eau rouge flat out. As I re-learned the > track eau rouge was no big deal at all. In fact the whole track looked > *VERY* close to what I saw on TV this past weekend. > > Anyway my new recommendation for F1 2000 is at least a > P3-750E ;-) > > -- > > [email hidden] > > > >
In article <5DYr5.29781$[email hidden]>, "Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> wrote: > "HJ Ventura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8LVr5.139303$Kw2.1103543@flipper... > > So please....... check it again !!! Again I like F1 2000 reallymuch, but > > what you were saying is bullshit. > > OK thanks. How unlike you to be so agreeable, Greg -- shame on you! <G> ;-) -- JB Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
<[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8oq35i$hjf$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (11 lines)> In article <5DYr5.29781$[email hidden]>, > "Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > "HJ Ventura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:8LVr5.139303$Kw2.1103543@flipper... > > > So please....... check it again !!! Again I like F1 2000 really > much, but > > > what you were saying is bullshit. > > > > OK thanks. > > How unlike you to be so agreeable, Greg -- shame on you! <G>
It would be pointless to agrue on this topic with him. I really like the track, he doesn't... Oh and I was passing (and being passed) on the straight after Eau Rouge and the long straight before the bus stop chicane. So it is not too narrow for that. Maybe I am just a better driver :-) And I do believe the track is wide enough to go 3 wide at the same spot that Mika passed Michael. Also I believe the bus stop chicane is modeled very good. Plus the slight banking and very apparent downhill modeling in Malmedy is awesome. But hey... whatever. -- [email hidden] > ;-) > > -- JB > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.
I consider myself a fairly hardcore sim racer, but I just don't get why having track accuracy down to inches is such a big deal. I never drive the real tracks, and am mainly interested in enjoying the sim tracks and having good races. Now if there blatantly wrong I guess that's one thing, but I just don't concern myself if someone says the banking is off by 5 degrees or the turn is 70 degrees instead of 65. I am really enjoying F12k. -- Don Burnette Dburn in N3 and Legends ICQ# 74084566 "Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:qJ5s5.29832$[email hidden]... > <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8oq35i$hjf$[email hidden]... > > In article <5DYr5.29781$[email hidden]>, > > "Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > "HJ Ventura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:8LVr5.139303$Kw2.1103543@flipper... > > > > So please....... check it again !!! Again I like F1 2000 really > > much, but > > > > what you were saying is bullshit. > > > > > > OK thanks. > > > > How unlike you to be so agreeable, Greg -- shame on you! <G> > > It would be pointless to agrue on this topic with him. I really like the > track, he doesn't... > > Oh and I was passing (and being passed) on the straight after Eau > Rouge and the long straight before the bus stop chicane. So it is not > too narrow for that. Maybe I am just a better driver :-) And I do believe > the track is wide enough to go 3 wide at the same spot that Mika > passed Michael. Also I believe the bus stop chicane is modeled > very good. Plus the slight banking and very apparent downhill > modeling in Malmedy is awesome. But hey... whatever. > > -- > > [email hidden] > > > > > > ;-) > > > > -- JB > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy. > >
In article <qJ5s5.29832$[email hidden]>, "Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> wrote: > <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:8oq35i$hjf$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (13 lines)> > In article <5DYr5.29781$[email hidden]>, > > "Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > "HJ Ventura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:8LVr5.139303$Kw2.1103543@flipper... > > > > So please....... check it again !!! Again I like F1 2000 really > > much, but > > > > what you were saying is bullshit. > > > > > > OK thanks. > > > > How unlike you to be so agreeable, Greg -- shame on you! <G> > > It would be pointless to agrue on this topic with him. I really like
the > track, he doesn't... Just for the record, I agree with you on both points! <G> -- JB Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
I'm with you on this one, Greg -- plus, I've watched several different in-car laps at Spa that I've found on the Web, and as far as I'm concerned, BOTH F1 2000 and GP3 are close enough for me. There are actually parts of GP3 that don't look right, but, like you, I'm not one to nit-pick about track details -- it's not the scenery, it's the speed and action that counts! -- JB In article <0q9s5.15890$[email hidden]>, "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote: > I consider myself a fairly hardcore sim racer, but I just don't getwhy > having track accuracy down to inches is such a big deal. I neverdrive the > real tracks, and am mainly interested in enjoying the sim tracks andhaving > good races. Now if there blatantly wrong I guess that's one thing,but I > just don't concern myself if someone says the banking is off by 5degrees or
Quoted text (11 lines)> the turn is 70 degrees instead of 65. > I am really enjoying F12k. > > -- > Don Burnette > Dburn in N3 and Legends > ICQ# 74084566 > > "Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:qJ5s5.29832$[email hidden]... > > <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:8oq35i$hjf$[email hidden]... > > > In article <5DYr5.29781$[email hidden]>, > > > "Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > "HJ Ventura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:8LVr5.139303$Kw2.1103543@flipper... > > > > > So please....... check it again !!! Again I like F1 2000really
Quoted text (8 lines)> > > much, but > > > > > what you were saying is bullshit. > > > > > > > > OK thanks. > > > > > > How unlike you to be so agreeable, Greg -- shame on you! <G> > > > > It would be pointless to agrue on this topic with him. I really
like the > > track, he doesn't... > > > > Oh and I was passing (and being passed) on the straight after Eau > > Rouge and the long straight before the bus stop chicane. So it isnot > > too narrow for that. Maybe I am just a better driver :-) And I dobelieve
Quoted text (23 lines)> > the track is wide enough to go 3 wide at the same spot that Mika > > passed Michael. Also I believe the bus stop chicane is modeled > > very good. Plus the slight banking and very apparent downhill > > modeling in Malmedy is awesome. But hey... whatever. > > > > -- > > > > [email hidden] > > > > > > > > > > > ;-) > > > > > > -- JB > > > > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > > Before you buy. > > > > > >
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
"Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0q9s5.15890$[email hidden]... > I consider myself a fairly hardcore sim racer, but I just don't get why > having track accuracy down to inches is such a big deal. I never drive the > real tracks, and am mainly interested in enjoying the sim tracks andhaving > good races. Now if there blatantly wrong I guess that's one thing, but I > just don't concern myself if someone says the banking is off by 5 degreesor > the turn is 70 degrees instead of 65. > I am really enjoying F12k. Ditto. I think this is why I am at odds with people that slam the F1 2000 tracks. They make it sound like the sim is undrivable or unusable. That is just plain non-sense. -- [email hidden]
<[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8oraou$qrs$[email hidden]... > > It would be pointless to agrue on this topic with him. I really like > the > > track, he doesn't... > > Just for the record, I agree with you on both points! <G> Thanks... Apparently you are not alone :-) -- [email hidden]
> It would be pointless to agrue on this topic with him. I really like the > track, he doesn't... Read my answer again. I twice mentioned that i like F1 2000 (and also the Spa track). I was only saying thats its not accurate at all (thats not an opinion, thats a fact...) > Oh and I was passing (and being passed) on the straight after Eau > Rouge and the long straight before the bus stop chicane. So it is not > too narrow for that. Maybe I am just a better driver :-) Hahaha. Ofcourse I know you can pass somebody. I didnt say that it is impossible to do that. So read again. Maybe you are a better driver (i doubt it, but ofcourse its possible), but it has nothing to do with this discussion. Btw maybe you should race me online once.... And I do believe > the track is wide enough to go 3 wide at the same spot that Mika > passed Michael. Also I believe the bus stop chicane is modeled > very good. Plus the slight banking and very apparent downhill > modeling in Malmedy is awesome. But hey... whatever. Ofcourse thats your opinion. 1. Eau Rouge is too simple in F1 2000 2. i dont think you can go 3 wide 3. the laptimes are much too quick with F1 2000 (at least mine are!! without altering...!) 4. the curbes arenot realistic at all But I like it anyway. Simply because I like the physics of F1 2000 very much. Sorry for saying 'bullshit'. I take it back.
> I think this is why I am at odds with people that slam the F1 2000 > tracks. They make it sound like the sim is undrivable or unusable. > That is just plain non-sense. I agree on that Greg !! So again; i think you were a little offended by the fact that I used the word 'bullshit' in my first reaction. I apologize for that. But again, I like F1 2000 most. I was just talking about accuracy. Some tracks are pretty accurate (I think Austria was pretty realistic...?), but i was a little disappointed by Spa.
Really, I just won my first ai single race at Monza, 25%, man it was a blast starting at the rear of the field and working my way up. The patch really improved the ai's behaviour. -- Don Burnette Dburn in N3 and Legends ICQ# 74084566 "Greg Cisko" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:zIbs5.29914$[email hidden]... > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:0q9s5.15890$[email hidden]... > > I consider myself a fairly hardcore sim racer, but I just don't get why > > having track accuracy down to inches is such a big deal. I never drive the > > real tracks, and am mainly interested in enjoying the sim tracks and > having > > good races. Now if there blatantly wrong I guess that's one thing, but I > > just don't concern myself if someone says the banking is off by 5 degrees > or > > the turn is 70 degrees instead of 65. > > I am really enjoying F12k. > > Ditto. > > I think this is why I am at odds with people that slam the F1 2000 > tracks. They make it sound like the sim is undrivable or unusable. > That is just plain non-sense. > > > > -- > > [email hidden] > > > > >
In article <0q9s5.15890$[email hidden]>, "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I consider myself a fairly hardcore sim racer, but I just don't get why >having track accuracy down to inches is such a big deal. I never drive the >real tracks, and am mainly interested in enjoying the sim tracks and having >good races. Similarly, I'm a hardcore simmer, but not as hardcore as all. Same happened in the FS newsgroup, where I considered myself hardcore. But then there came along a whole bunch who wanted to have to LN2 cool the heatseekers for 30sec before using. Or those here who want to toggle all the IP controls. So, we are all fans varying from arcaders, medium, hard core, ultra. Some will find that nothing but perfection suits them. Hopefully there will be sims that can satisfy all. As to the thread at hand, I too felt that F12K's Spa was way off when I first played it. Eu Rouge seemed strange after the Crammond and Ubisoft titles. But when watching the Coulthard in-car over and over, I can't say it was that obviously off. Yes, all the tracks seem too narrow when in the car (though the tracks look plenty wide from an outside car, wide angle shot). Bigger problem I have with Spa is the AI. They are set to use the "speed" setup and are much faster than in real life (210+ heading to Les Combes vs about 180-190 if the on-screen info during the race was correct). They lose that advantage by braking to about 120 through Blanchmont whereas the real drivers (and me in the game even with the speed setting) take it flat or near flat-out. I'm sure someone probably already has a fix posted at bhmotorsports, but it shouldn't have been released as-is. Last, there is the smaller bug of allowing them to use that first out-lap for fast laps (short-cutting La Source hairpin). Overall, I'm pretty satisfied with the track layouts. There are some small problems I've found, but not killers. The AI gives me much more pause.
"HJ Ventura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:wBds5.163069$Kw2.1222762@flipper... > > Oh and I was passing (and being passed) on the straight after Eau > > Rouge and the long straight before the bus stop chicane. So it is not > > too narrow for that. Maybe I am just a better driver :-) > > Hahaha. Ofcourse I know you can pass somebody. I didnt say that it is > impossible to do that. So read again. Maybe you are a better driver (idoubt > it, but ofcourse its possible), but it has nothing to do with this > discussion. Btw maybe you should race me online once.... Well I haven't driven much since I tore my achilles tendon and had surgery on June 1st, so I am sure I would lose. But I would be willing to try F1 2000 online racing. Oh and the ":-)" after saying I was a better driver meant it was a *JOKE*. > Sorry for saying 'bullshit'. I take it back. No problem. -- [email hidden]
U use Masstudio to insert the vrls into the xxmap.mas (unpack it first) Sudesh "J. Janasov" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht news:8opmhs$6gf$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (22 lines)> Looks great, how in the hell do you install them? > > DOH! > > J. Janasov > > > sudesh <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Guys there is somebody out there who feels your pain and has done > something > > about it, just go to this site, this guy is a genius! > > > > http://members.tripod.com/djburaz/ > > > > Look at the work he does...... > > > > > > Sudesh > > "Arto Wikla" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht > > news:wikla.967847831@kanasaari... > > > Somehow I've got the impression that F12000 is in its worst in
modelling
Quoted text (8 lines)> > > the Monza track... To me for ex. the Imola of F12000 was quite good. > > > But there really is something wrong with Monza...? Even the huge and > > > high forest looks _very_ unreal, ..., and there seems to be even some > > > graphical errors: some tree branch hanging _on_ the Parabolca... ?? > > > > > > Arto > > > > > > PS GP3 is much better in Monza, but my MSFF is still turning to
left...
Quoted text (7 lines)> > > Do I dare to use any "registry" patch? And which one of these? > > > I've found at least 3 different ones. And they all say they'll > > > not be responsible, if my system gets crazy... > > > > > >
"HJ Ventura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:XGds5.163122$Kw2.1223574@flipper... > > I think this is why I am at odds with people that slam the F1 2000 > > tracks. They make it sound like the sim is undrivable or unusable. > > That is just plain non-sense. > > I agree on that Greg !! So again; i think you were a little offended bythe > fact that I used the word 'bullshit' in my first reaction. I apologize for You might be right :-) I read it and thought "how the hell am I going to reply to that!". > that. But again, I like F1 2000 most. I was just talking about accuracy. > Some tracks are pretty accurate (I think Austria was prettyrealistic...?), > but i was a little disappointed by Spa. OK. I wasn't... I had a blast qualifying 5th and winning a 15% race after having almost 3 months away from racing sims. Maybe I was too glad to just be racing again? -- [email hidden]
<[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8oru0j$no8$[email hidden]... > As to the thread at hand, I too felt that F12K's Spa was way off when Ifirst > played it. Eu Rouge seemed strange after the Crammond and Ubisoft titles. When I first tried Spa in F1 2000, I thought for sure that Eau Rouge was porked. However as I drove it I found a driving line which is fairly straight and in some cases would cut a little into the grass exiting the complex. > But when watching the Coulthard in-car over and over, I can't say it wasthat > obviously off. Yes, all the tracks seem too narrow when in the car(though Same here. Certainly nothing to dismiss the game over. I thought the bus stop in F1 2000 was the best model of all the other modern F1 games I tried (F1RS, World Circuit, GP2). -- [email hidden] > the tracks look plenty wide from an outside car, wide angle shot).
Piss off . Twat. -- [email hidden] "Ronald Stoehr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Greg Cisko wrote: > > > > I ran a 15% GP at Spa yesterday, as my Achilles is finally healed > snip > > track eau rouge was no big deal at all. In fact the whole track looked > > *VERY* close to what I saw on TV this past weekend. > > Ok, your achilles is better, that's great. But now your eyes seem > to be really in trouble...put those damn glasses on! ;^) > > -- > l8er > ronny > > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change > to take effect. Reboot now? > |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, > ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. > |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, > '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!
Don't you mean Twit ? <G> Andre ?? -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> Greg Cisko <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:zuzt5.38064$[email hidden]... > Piss off . Twat. > > -- > > [email hidden] > > > "Ronald Stoehr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Greg Cisko wrote: > > > > > > I ran a 15% GP at Spa yesterday, as my Achilles is finally healed > > snip > > > track eau rouge was no big deal at all. In fact the whole track looked > > > *VERY* close to what I saw on TV this past weekend. > > > > Ok, your achilles is better, that's great. But now your eyes seem > > to be really in trouble...put those damn glasses on! ;^) > > > > -- > > l8er > > ronny > > > > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change > > to take effect. Reboot now? > > |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, > > ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. > > |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, > > '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off! > >
On Thu, 7 Sep 2000 00:36:42 +0100, "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Don't you mean Twit ? <G> >Andre ?? I gave up :) I also never understood the 'piss off' comment. I mean, you can piss on something, piss at something, piss in something, but you can't piss off something? Andre
"Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8p6keg$bkp$[email hidden]... > Don't you mean Twit ? <G> Nope... > Andre ?? Oh is he a twit expert around here :-) My apologies... -- [email hidden] > -- > Ian P > <email invalid due to spam> > > Greg Cisko <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:zuzt5.38064$[email hidden]... > > Piss off . Twat. > > > > -- > > > > [email hidden] > > > > > > "Ronald Stoehr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Greg Cisko wrote: > > > > > > > > I ran a 15% GP at Spa yesterday, as my Achilles is finally healed > > > snip > > > > track eau rouge was no big deal at all. In fact the whole track looked > > > > *VERY* close to what I saw on TV this past weekend. > > > > > > Ok, your achilles is better, that's great. But now your eyes seem > > > to be really in trouble...put those damn glasses on! ;^) > > > > > > -- > > > l8er > > > ronny > > > > > > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change > > > to take effect. Reboot now? > > > |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, > > > ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. > > > |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, > > > '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off! > > > > > >
Greg Cisko wrote: > > Piss off . Twat. LOL, you're funny, really! -- l8er ronny Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!
Andre Warringa wrote:
Quoted text (10 lines)> > On Thu, 7 Sep 2000 00:36:42 +0100, "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Don't you mean Twit ? <G> > >Andre ?? > > I gave up :) > I also never understood the 'piss off' comment. I mean, you can piss > on something, piss at something, piss in something, but you can't piss > off something?
It's even funnier when they say "Fuck you", isn't it? They are really mad and then they ask you to get down with'em? Yikes! -- l8er ronny Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!
EldredP 10 Sep 2000 01:42 UTC↳ reply to Sten#232821
In article <[email hidden]>, Sten <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (9 lines)>Hi, > >I search for the options.mas file. Is Anyone could send it >to me by mail. >I extract all *.uha files (options.uha too) but the >options.mas file don't exist... > > >Thanx
Why do you post this in damn near every thread? Obviously no one HAS it... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +50.77 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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